I know of no Mass. connection. I believe that the immigrant was possible Scotch Irish and probably from the Ulster Phelan Clan. I think this because of the location they immigrated to and the era of the immigration. Also while I have no church records from the early family they are Presbyterian by the time they reach Tennessee. ----- Original Message ----- From: <HANDTHX82@cs.com> To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [PHELAN] Phelans NC/TN > My Family is primarily from the Fall River, Mass area. My Dad, Francis > James Phelan (Frank) believes his parents came over from Ireland but their > marriage license states they both were born in Fall River. Do you have any > family in Mass? > > Carol Phelan > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > This PHELAN list is currently available for adoption! > Interested in becoming the list manager? Go here: > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/adoptrequest.html > > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

I'm looking for a Phelan family, lived in Brooklyn in late 1800's. Walter S. Phelan m. Laura M. Wood. Children, Walter, Ronald and Winfield. Walter the father died in 1904. He owned a haberdashery store on Wall Street. Does this ring a bell with anyone? RPhelan1@compuserve.com searching, Phelan, Foley, Wood, Vail, Laramee

I have run across a Walter A. Phelan in the 1890 New York City Directory. His occupation is listed as "men's furng", 56 Wall, H: 413 Sumner Ave, Brklyn. This info was listed under databases in Ancestry.com

I am still trying to make the connection back to Ireland and when I do, I'll know if there is a connection with you. Care to share your family's names that lived in Ireland before they went to Australia? Carol Phelan

Thanks very much for your note. I am seeing a lot of this explanation and will trace down every variation of the spelling in the future. Carol Phelan

My Family is primarily from the Fall River, Mass area. My Dad, Francis James Phelan (Frank) believes his parents came over from Ireland but their marriage license states they both were born in Fall River. Do you have any family in Mass? Carol Phelan

Thanks you for your information. I will add this to my database for future research. Let me know if I can be of assistance to you! Carol Phelan

I too have a Bridget Phelan (Whelan). What was her husband's first name. Mine was Peter. Thanks. judy ----- Original Message ----- From: Lois Jamieson <elseajay@earthlink.net> To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: June 11, 2000 2:48 AM Subject: [PHELAN] Re: Phelan and Whalen > My g-g-grandparents were Phelans and lived most of their lives in my home town in > Connecticut. In searching the town records I found many references to them > including marriage, birth of their children, death of the husband, etc. but I > could never find a death notice for my gggrandmother, Bridget Phelan. I finally > caught on to this Phelen/Whelan thing and checked the records under Whelan--and > there she was. The only time in about 40 years that she was listed under that > name. So the moral is, don't ignore one name or the other! They really are > interchangeable. > > Lois > elseajay@earthlink.net > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > Irish Blessing: May the strength of three be in your journey > > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >

unsubscribe -----Original Message----- From: doehring@ix.netcom.com <doehring@ix.netcom.com> To: PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, June 10, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: [PHELAN] Re: PHELAN-D Digest V00 #50 >Hi All, >I can certainly understand the frustration going on with the constant e-mails on >Phelans. Some join lists just looking to make connection with a cousin, others for >info. Two things: I'm putting this info up with the hopes that it does help >someone. I actually got a Phelan lead here on the list that helped me out greatly, >I believe it was Glenda who posted it. However, it may help you if your subscribed >in list mode to unsubscribe and resubscribe in digest mode. just insert "-request" >after the -L in the address. leave the subject line blank and put "unsubscribe" >only here in the body. To resubscribe to digest mode e-mail "Phelan-D-request" >and do the same but put subscribe instead of unsubscribe in the body. These rules >apply to most all the rootsweb mail lists and this may help some. Secondly, I'm >pretty sure there is a Whelan mailing list for those who might not know. I do >these lookups during a period in the morning where my computer is locked up >computing and I really can't use it for anything else intensive. So for 4 lists, >Phelan,Donovan,Kinsella, Sheridan I run these names on the databases that are free >for 10 days at ancestry.com. Sometimes I hit paydirt and other times there are >none. I started running Phelans but have now found Phalens as well in the family >(cousins). Mine are all from Nova Scotia. I don't run any other variations because >a)time and b)I don't have Whelans. The good news is that like I said these >databases are free for 10 days once posted so all of you have the ability to visit >ancestry.com and on the right side you'll see links to recent databases. For 5.95 >a month, if you've never seen it before, it's a pretty good deal. I've never >joined since I've pretty much have gone thru their entire collection (large) and >am at alot of brickwalls. I've posted below the addresses of Rootsweb.com's >mailing list pages. The Surname list page also has the regional mailing lists as >well. For the archive page, you need to know the list name you are searching to >take advantage of it. This might be helpful for those who were not aware of the >whelan list or just joined the phelan list. In fact just so I wouldn't look like >an idiot I just looked for the Whelan list. Here it is: > >WHELAN-L-request@rootsweb.com > >I wish all good luck and I'm only posting this so that it may help one of us >somewhere. And it's in the archives for any future users. If you're enjoying the >postings I appreciate it and no need to let me know via posting to the list. With >so little time in the day the last thing most of want to read on the list here is >"Thank you Chris" letters. We all get enough e-mail as it is. >So enough said, I've got to run to the store to get more paint for the patio >furniture. Best of Luck to y'all and I'll post Friday's searches Monday. (Took the >boy to his new daycare center as the previous one has rapidly gone down hill and >for note's sake I'm a Christopher-mom got me into the tree) 'Nuff said. >Chris Doehring >St. Louis, MO >PS Addresses below > > > >Mailing Lists homepage >http://www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/ >Surname list page >http://lists.rootsweb.com/ >archive page >http://searches.rootsweb.com/roots-l.html > > >==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== >Irish Blessing: May you have warm words on a cold evening, A full moon on a dark night, And the road downhill all the way to your door. > > >============================== >Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. >RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >

My g-g-grandparents were Phelans and lived most of their lives in my home town in Connecticut. In searching the town records I found many references to them including marriage, birth of their children, death of the husband, etc. but I could never find a death notice for my gggrandmother, Bridget Phelan. I finally caught on to this Phelen/Whelan thing and checked the records under Whelan--and there she was. The only time in about 40 years that she was listed under that name. So the moral is, don't ignore one name or the other! They really are interchangeable. Lois elseajay@earthlink.net

Thanks Kitty - I'll do that. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kitty <dnell16@millry.net> To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 10:57 AM Subject: [PHELAN] Fw: Please pass this on!!!! > >; Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 2:51 AM > Subject: Please pass this on!!!! > > > > The Candle > > > > > > A handsome, middle-aged man walked quietly into the cafe and sat down. > > Before he ordered, he couldn't help but notice a group of younger men at > the > > table next to him. It was obvious they were making fun of something about > > him, and it wasn't until he remembered he was wearing a small pink ribbon > on > > the lapel of his suit that he became aware of what the joke was all about. > > > > The man brushed off the reaction as ignorance, but the smirks began to get > to > > him. He looked one of the rude men square in the eye, placed his hand > > beneath the ribbon and asked, quizzically, "This?". > > With that the men all began to laugh out loud. > > > > The man he addressed said, as he fought back laughter, "Hey, sorry man, > but > > we were just commenting on how pretty your little ribbon looks against > your > > blue jacket!" The middle aged man calmly motioned for the joker to come > over > > to his table, and invited him to sit down. As uncomfortable as he was, > the > > guy obliged, not really sure why. > > > > In a soft voice, the middle aged man said, "I wear this ribbon to bring > > awareness about breast cancer. I wear it in my mother's honor." > > > > "Oh, sorry dude. She died of breast cancer?" > > > > "No, she didn't. She's alive and well. But her breasts nourished me as > an > > infant, and were a soft resting place for my head when I was scared or > lonely > > as a little boy. I'm very grateful for my mother's breasts, and her > health." > > > > "Umm", the stranger replied, "yeah". > > > > "And I wear this ribbon to honor my wife", the middle aged man went on. > > > > "And she's okay, too?", the other guy asked. > > > > "Oh, yes. She's fine. Her breasts have been a great source of loving > > pleasure for both of us, and with them she nurtured and nourished our > > beautiful daughter 23 years ago. I am grateful for my wife's breasts, and > > for her health." > > > > "Uh huh. And I guess you wear it to honor your daughter, also?" > > > > "No. It's too late to honor my daughter by wearing it now. > > My daughter died of breast cancer one month ago. She thought she was too > > young to have breast cancer, so when she accidentally noticed a small > lump, > > she ignored it. > > She thought that since it wasn't painful, it must not be anything to worry > > about." > > > > Shaken and ashamed, the now sober stranger said, "Oh, man, I'm so sorry > > mister". > > > > "So, in my daughter's memory, too, I proudly wear this little ribbon, > which > > allows me the opportunity to enlighten others. Now, go home and talk to > your > > wife and your daughters, your mother and your friends. > > And here . . > > ." The middle-aged man reached in his pocket and handed the other man a > > little pink ribbon. > > > > The guy looked at it, slowly raised his head and asked, "Can ya help me > put > > it on?" > > > > This is breast cancer awareness month. Do regular breast self- exams and > > have annual mammograms if you are a woman over the age of > > 40. > > And encourage those women you love to do the same. > > > > Please send this on to anyone you would like to remind of the importance > of > > breast cancer awareness. > > > > A CANDLE LOSES NOTHING BY LIGHTING ANOTHER CANDLE. > > > > This one I do ask that you send on. > > > > cpugh :) (for my mom and all women and men who love women, their mothers, > > their sis's and daughters) > > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > Irish Blessing: May you live to be a hundred years, with one extra year to repent. > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Hi All, I can certainly understand the frustration going on with the constant e-mails on Phelans. Some join lists just looking to make connection with a cousin, others for info. Two things: I'm putting this info up with the hopes that it does help someone. I actually got a Phelan lead here on the list that helped me out greatly, I believe it was Glenda who posted it. However, it may help you if your subscribed in list mode to unsubscribe and resubscribe in digest mode. just insert "-request" after the -L in the address. leave the subject line blank and put "unsubscribe" only here in the body. To resubscribe to digest mode e-mail "Phelan-D-request" and do the same but put subscribe instead of unsubscribe in the body. These rules apply to most all the rootsweb mail lists and this may help some. Secondly, I'm pretty sure there is a Whelan mailing list for those who might not know. I do these lookups during a period in the morning where my computer is locked up computing and I really can't use it for anything else intensive. So for 4 lists, Phelan,Donovan,Kinsella, Sheridan I run these names on the databases that are free for 10 days at ancestry.com. Sometimes I hit paydirt and other times there are none. I started running Phelans but have now found Phalens as well in the family (cousins). Mine are all from Nova Scotia. I don't run any other variations because a)time and b)I don't have Whelans. The good news is that like I said these databases are free for 10 days once posted so all of you have the ability to visit ancestry.com and on the right side you'll see links to recent databases. For 5.95 a month, if you've never seen it before, it's a pretty good deal. I've never joined since I've pretty much have gone thru their entire collection (large) and am at alot of brickwalls. I've posted below the addresses of Rootsweb.com's mailing list pages. The Surname list page also has the regional mailing lists as well. For the archive page, you need to know the list name you are searching to take advantage of it. This might be helpful for those who were not aware of the whelan list or just joined the phelan list. In fact just so I wouldn't look like an idiot I just looked for the Whelan list. Here it is: WHELAN-L-request@rootsweb.com I wish all good luck and I'm only posting this so that it may help one of us somewhere. And it's in the archives for any future users. If you're enjoying the postings I appreciate it and no need to let me know via posting to the list. With so little time in the day the last thing most of want to read on the list here is "Thank you Chris" letters. We all get enough e-mail as it is. So enough said, I've got to run to the store to get more paint for the patio furniture. Best of Luck to y'all and I'll post Friday's searches Monday. (Took the boy to his new daycare center as the previous one has rapidly gone down hill and for note's sake I'm a Christopher-mom got me into the tree) 'Nuff said. Chris Doehring St. Louis, MO PS Addresses below Mailing Lists homepage http://www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/ Surname list page http://lists.rootsweb.com/ archive page http://searches.rootsweb.com/roots-l.html

>; Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 2:51 AM Subject: Please pass this on!!!! > The Candle > > > A handsome, middle-aged man walked quietly into the cafe and sat down. > Before he ordered, he couldn't help but notice a group of younger men at the > table next to him. It was obvious they were making fun of something about > him, and it wasn't until he remembered he was wearing a small pink ribbon on > the lapel of his suit that he became aware of what the joke was all about. > > The man brushed off the reaction as ignorance, but the smirks began to get to > him. He looked one of the rude men square in the eye, placed his hand > beneath the ribbon and asked, quizzically, "This?". > With that the men all began to laugh out loud. > > The man he addressed said, as he fought back laughter, "Hey, sorry man, but > we were just commenting on how pretty your little ribbon looks against your > blue jacket!" The middle aged man calmly motioned for the joker to come over > to his table, and invited him to sit down. As uncomfortable as he was, the > guy obliged, not really sure why. > > In a soft voice, the middle aged man said, "I wear this ribbon to bring > awareness about breast cancer. I wear it in my mother's honor." > > "Oh, sorry dude. She died of breast cancer?" > > "No, she didn't. She's alive and well. But her breasts nourished me as an > infant, and were a soft resting place for my head when I was scared or lonely > as a little boy. I'm very grateful for my mother's breasts, and her health." > > "Umm", the stranger replied, "yeah". > > "And I wear this ribbon to honor my wife", the middle aged man went on. > > "And she's okay, too?", the other guy asked. > > "Oh, yes. She's fine. Her breasts have been a great source of loving > pleasure for both of us, and with them she nurtured and nourished our > beautiful daughter 23 years ago. I am grateful for my wife's breasts, and > for her health." > > "Uh huh. And I guess you wear it to honor your daughter, also?" > > "No. It's too late to honor my daughter by wearing it now. > My daughter died of breast cancer one month ago. She thought she was too > young to have breast cancer, so when she accidentally noticed a small lump, > she ignored it. > She thought that since it wasn't painful, it must not be anything to worry > about." > > Shaken and ashamed, the now sober stranger said, "Oh, man, I'm so sorry > mister". > > "So, in my daughter's memory, too, I proudly wear this little ribbon, which > allows me the opportunity to enlighten others. Now, go home and talk to your > wife and your daughters, your mother and your friends. > And here . . > ." The middle-aged man reached in his pocket and handed the other man a > little pink ribbon. > > The guy looked at it, slowly raised his head and asked, "Can ya help me put > it on?" > > This is breast cancer awareness month. Do regular breast self- exams and > have annual mammograms if you are a woman over the age of > 40. > And encourage those women you love to do the same. > > Please send this on to anyone you would like to remind of the importance of > breast cancer awareness. > > A CANDLE LOSES NOTHING BY LIGHTING ANOTHER CANDLE. > > This one I do ask that you send on. > > cpugh :) (for my mom and all women and men who love women, their mothers, > their sis's and daughters) >

Glad to see a little activity on the Phelan list. I need to get back to work on my "tree." Thanks to you, Chris Doehring, for all your wonderful input!! Did you ever get in contact with Fr. Faherty? He knows a lot of stuff!! Kathleen Puls--glad to see another familiar name. Is this the time you were getting ready for your Ireland trip? Last year at this time I was ready to go. Oh, I wish I were going again this summer. I'll repost my family info and inquiries in the near future Patricia Phelan Dailey

As it was explained to me, both Phelan and Whelan translate back into the same word in Gaelic - O'Faolain . So, the priest, or govt. official who translated the gaelic name would - if putting it in English, choose either one. At that time, the precise spelling of names was not a necessary item. Frank Fitzgerald

This could be one of the reasons for the spelling variation of the name Phelan: My gg grandmother from the Radestown area of Co. Kilkenny was Catherine PHELAN - according to the parish records in Co. Kilkenny. Her name also appeared on the 1925 Iowa State census as Catherine WHALEN. Here is the best explanation from a Bill Jackman from Waterford, Ireland, that I have heard yet as to why the two names are interchangeable: "Yes the names Whelan and Phelan are one and the same. The name in Irish is O`Faolain with a stroke over last a,which lengthens it,I`ll try and spell it phonetically for you,fweylawinn,so its easy to understand where whelan came from ( or Whalen )" Kathleen Maryland HANDTHX82@cs.com wrote: > > My father's family is Whalen, Whelan, and Phelan. I am looking for persons > who know any reason or story the Whalen/Phelans have for the name > changes....a rift in the family, starting a new branch? Our Phelan/Whalens > are located primarily in Fall River, Mass. In particular I am looking for > connections to the Edward Whalen/Eleanor Roe family and beyond. Thanks for > the variation of Whealan. Haven't seen that one yet. > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > This PHELAN list is currently available for adoption! > Interested in becoming the list manager? Go here: > http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/adoptrequest.html > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/

I am no expert, but I understand there are two spellings in Ireland, Whelan and Phelan. My gr-grandfather was shown sometimes as Whelan and Sometimes as Phelan in various records. A few years ago while in Ireland I checked the two phone books for Ireland, one for Dublin, the second for the rest of Ireland. there were about 200 Phelan spellings in both books, none other then that. I understood there that Whelan is used interchangeably with Phelan, although Whelan is used about twice as often as Phelan, they are the same name. My own name is spelled Phalin, but that is an american derivation. Larry Phalin

No. I never saw that spelling variation. Looks like I'm going to be learning how to use the soundex soon., Thanks for the tip. Carol Phelan-Smith

My father's family is Whalen, Whelan, and Phelan. I am looking for persons who know any reason or story the Whalen/Phelans have for the name changes....a rift in the family, starting a new branch? Our Phelan/Whalens are located primarily in Fall River, Mass. In particular I am looking for connections to the Edward Whalen/Eleanor Roe family and beyond. Thanks for the variation of Whealan. Haven't seen that one yet.

Mary, This is Jann Whalen Parks, Is your name Whealen Irish? I haven't seen it before. I am going to delete me too as they never have any Whalen's -----Original Message----- From: Mary A Austin <maryaa@juno.com> To: PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, June 08, 2000 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [PHELAN] Todays Phelans @ Ancestry.com >Please delete my name. My interest is Whealan. I do not get any help from >the Phelans. Mary Austin >________________________________________________________________ >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > >==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== >Here's to you and yours and to mine and ours, And if mine and ours ever come across you and yours, I hope you and yours will do as much for mine and ours, As mine and ours have done for you and yours. > > >============================== >Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >