Hi Phelan researchers, Believe John and I have corresponded before and we are cousins <g>. If anyone is interested in our line of Phelan's, which did include several Pierce Phelan's, they can go to my web site and look at my Phelan Genealogy report. This is for FREE use for any Phelan researchers, however I do ask that any of my material not be included in any site that one has to pay to view. I am a firm believer that all of my work of almost 27 years, should be freely given and one shouldn't have to pay to view it. Otherwise feel free to download what you want. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~makaylor/index.html Mary Ann >Hi John, >My grandfather and his father, my great grandfather were both named Pierce >Phelan. I don't know anything about great grandfather Pierce except that he >was godfather to my dad, Herbert Phelan Sr. who was born in Peekskill New >York. The older Pierce I think lived in New York City since he married a >Brooklyn woman named Julia Lang. I don't know his place of origin but I think >he would have been born around the early to mid 1860's. >The younger Pierce was an iron moulder who died young of lung problems and >left a widow and 3 small children, one of whom was my dad. I think he was born >and raised in New York City since his wife was from there. He would have been >born on or a couple of years before 1890. >I'd sure like to explore this a bit further. Maybe you'll find some new >cousins. >Herb Phelan Jr. > >John Garner wrote: > > > My great great grandfather, Pierce Phelan, and his wife, Mary Dwyer (or > > O'Dwyer) came to Canada in 1852 from Co. Tipperary, Ireland. My branch of > > the family remained in the St. Catharines, ON area but some of Pierce's > > descendants moved on to New York, Illinois, and Ohio. Later, descendants > > of Pierce have scattered all over the US. Any connections? > > John > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <HANDTHX82@cs.com> > > To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 10:20 PM > > Subject: [PHELAN] My PHELAN roots > > > > > Tell me a little more about your Phelan list. What state are your > > Phelan's > > > located in? > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > > > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. - ------------------------------------------------- Mary Ann Kaylor TEDROW MAIL LIST Administrator To subscribe: TEDROW-L-request@rootsweb.com MY FAMILY GENEALOGY http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~makaylor/index.html MY CONVERSE CONNECTIONS http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~converse/index.html KAYLOR MAIL LIST - To subscribe, please review KAYLOR MAIL LIST GUIDELINES: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~zimzip/kaylor/maillist/

MINE WERE IN NEW JERSEY BUT CAME IN TO NEWYORK FROM IRELAND MY DAD CAME TO AL. & MET MY MOM LIVED HERE TILL DEATH IN1963 ----- Original Message ----- From: <HANDTHX82@cs.com> To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 9:20 PM Subject: [PHELAN] My PHELAN roots > Tell me a little more about your Phelan list. What state are your Phelan's > located in? > > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

Hi John, My grandfather and his father, my great grandfather were both named Pierce Phelan. I don't know anything about great grandfather Pierce except that he was godfather to my dad, Herbert Phelan Sr. who was born in Peekskill New York. The older Pierce I think lived in New York City since he married a Brooklyn woman named Julia Lang. I don't know his place of origin but I think he would have been born around the early to mid 1860's. The younger Pierce was an iron moulder who died young of lung problems and left a widow and 3 small children, one of whom was my dad. I think he was born and raised in New York City since his wife was from there. He would have been born on or a couple of years before 1890. I'd sure like to explore this a bit further. Maybe you'll find some new cousins. Herb Phelan Jr. John Garner wrote: > My great great grandfather, Pierce Phelan, and his wife, Mary Dwyer (or > O'Dwyer) came to Canada in 1852 from Co. Tipperary, Ireland. My branch of > the family remained in the St. Catharines, ON area but some of Pierce's > descendants moved on to New York, Illinois, and Ohio. Later, descendants > of Pierce have scattered all over the US. Any connections? > John > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <HANDTHX82@cs.com> > To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 10:20 PM > Subject: [PHELAN] My PHELAN roots > > > Tell me a little more about your Phelan list. What state are your > Phelan's > > located in? > > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/

My great great grandfather, Pierce Phelan, and his wife, Mary Dwyer (or O'Dwyer) came to Canada in 1852 from Co. Tipperary, Ireland. My branch of the family remained in the St. Catharines, ON area but some of Pierce's descendants moved on to New York, Illinois, and Ohio. Later, descendants of Pierce have scattered all over the US. Any connections? John ----- Original Message ----- From: <HANDTHX82@cs.com> To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 10:20 PM Subject: [PHELAN] My PHELAN roots > Tell me a little more about your Phelan list. What state are your Phelan's > located in? >

Hi, I am interested in your PHELAN name. I have Catherine Phelan, born 1829 in NY. She married Philip Grosback about 1850 and they lived in Brooklyn, NY with their 5 children. Any information is appreciated. Thanks, Marilyn

Herb, I ran across this list of Phelans and noticed a Pierce Phelan. You may already have seen this, but hope it helps. Happy hunting. Carol Phelan

Hi; Following is a list of the main names I am researching for my PHELAN roots. Of course there are also many other related names: CARROLL - Ireland > ON DWYER - Tipperary, Ireland GARNER - Yorkshire > Lancashire > ON HOWE - Ireland > ON LYNCH - Ireland > ON MAHONEY - Ireland > NB & QU > ON O'DONOGHUE - Ireland > ON O'MARA - Ireland > ON, NY O'REILLY - Ireland > ON PHELAN - Tipperary, Ireland > ON + NY, IL, OH, etc SHANAHAN - Tipperary, Ireland TRACEY - Ireland > ON Best wishes John Garner Thunder Bay ON garner@tbaytel.net

Tell me a little more about your Phelan list. What state are your Phelan's located in?

I'm hoping to find anyone researching the O'Phelan family, in particular: Thomas O'Phelan (County Waterford) m. Honor D'Arcy (County Clare) immigrated to New Orleans (1830-50??) and eventually to Minnesota (approx. 1855). 2 children: Patrick D'Arcy O'Phelan (m. Julia Harvey) and Julia O'Phelan (m. fnukn/Littleton). Patrick O'Phelan had 10 children, born between 1865 and 1885. Any help appreciated! Nancy Davis nmdavis18@aol.com

Hi all ... Here's a tidbit of PHELAN info. +PHELAN, Thomas ... Member of King Solomon lodge of Woodstock, C.W., Canada. 1860 [source: The Universal Masonic Record And Directory: List Of All Masonic Lodges In The World. Published by Leon Hyneman (c)1860., pp. 502] Amy AmyeA@aol.com Lexington, Ohio

MARY - JUST BY CHANCE DID THEY COME FROM AROUND CARRICK ON SUIR REGARDS FRANK FITZGERALD

My grandfather's brother went to Australia in the 1870's. His name was William Phelan(Whelan) - we're not sure which name he used - my grandfather used Whelan, but another brother, Thomas, used Phelan - Thomas went to Australia (Melbourne) for about 5 years and then returned to Ireland. He met up with his brother while there, but no one ever heard of William again - his parents were Honora Keating and James Whelan. Keatings also went to Australia. Mary

Hi: >From what I understand Whelan/Phelan is really the same name. My grandfather was James Whelan - his sister was Alice Phelan and his brother Thomas Phelan. On his parents' marriage certificate they are Whelan and the baptismal records all say Whelan. From what I've read sometimes people used Whelan and sometimes Phelan - there was no rift - my father's family was close and his brother lived with them the last few years of his life. I always check both Phelan and Whelan. Mary

A smile for today… In grade school years, my best friend's father used to tell me I'd be "Feel-in" until I was 21, then I'd be "Fail-in"—ooooh, I thought he was so corny!! Pat

yes, one will be the residence and the other the work address. If you go to the website I put up for each of the lists, assuming it is still free, you should be able to either a) discern a pattern of home residences and work addresses by where they're listed or b) pull up the database and there may be a description as to what column is what. You've noticed that these are all approximately 1890. Since the 1890 census is mostly destroyed thru neglect, they are accumulating these directories as a sort of pseudo census. If you have problems getting to the database description go to www.ancestry.com and at the far right there will be a box in a column saying recent databases. Click on that. Hope this helps, Chris PS one more note. Old directories would list both the individual's work and home place. I believe this was to increase sales to businesses for the purpose of collections of bills due. I use to do collections in college and we used what was called a Polk directory. You could look up people by their street or phone number, which might be kind of nice later on so you could see who else was living near your ancestor. Don't know how far they go back but I've seen them available at the local library.

I was wondering the same thing about the address #1 and #2 issue. Did you ever get a response to your question?

Chris, I think I have found a relation but I need some clarification. What does location 1 and location 2 stand for, is one a residence and one a workplace, and which is which? Thanks for your hard work at posting these. Donna Guglielmi Donna184@ncounty.net > > Cambridge, Massachusetts Directories, 1887-90 > > http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1890cambma&gs=phelan&query=phe lan&submit=Search&DatabaseID=4690&Title=Cambridge%2C+Massachusetts+Directori es%2C+1887-90&DatabaseName=1890cambma&SearchEngine=sse.dll&Server=search&Typ e=F > > Daniel Phelan Camb. R. R. Co. driver Cambridge MA 1887 > Edmund Phelan Hoosac Tunnel Elevator Dock Co. cooper Chas'n 189 Pearl > Cambridge MA 1887 > Edmund T. Phelan foreman, bindery 105 Magazine at Glenwood Cambridge > MA 1887 > Ellen Phelan, widow of Timothy A. 30 Mt. Auburn Cambridge MA 1887 > James Phelan Riverside Press lithographer 14 Grant Cambridge MA 1887 > Jeremiah J. Phelan F. R. R. switchman b. 40 Bolton Cambridge MA 1887 > John T. Phelan plumber 17 Brattle 9 Brown Cambridge MA 1887 > Miss Mary J. Phelan boards 30 Mt. Auburn Cambridge MA 1887 > Patrick Phelan provisions, etc. 383 Main do. Cambridge MA 1887

Free for 10 days At Ancestry.com Cambridge, Massachusetts Directories, 1887-90 http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1890cambma&gs=phelan&query=phelan&submit=Search&DatabaseID=4690&Title=Cambridge%2C+Massachusetts+Directories%2C+1887-90&DatabaseName=1890cambma&SearchEngine=sse.dll&Server=search&Type=F Daniel Phelan Camb. R. R. Co. driver Cambridge MA 1887 Edmund Phelan Hoosac Tunnel Elevator Dock Co. cooper Chas'n 189 Pearl Cambridge MA 1887 Edmund T. Phelan foreman, bindery 105 Magazine at Glenwood Cambridge MA 1887 Ellen Phelan, widow of Timothy A. 30 Mt. Auburn Cambridge MA 1887 James Phelan Riverside Press lithographer 14 Grant Cambridge MA 1887 Jeremiah J. Phelan F. R. R. switchman b. 40 Bolton Cambridge MA 1887 John T. Phelan plumber 17 Brattle 9 Brown Cambridge MA 1887 Miss Mary J. Phelan boards 30 Mt. Auburn Cambridge MA 1887 Patrick Phelan provisions, etc. 383 Main do. Cambridge MA 1887 Thomas J. Phelan stone cutter house 140 Dublin Cambridge MA 1887 William Phelan James R. Lowell gardener and milkman Mt. Auburn, c. Elmwood ave. Cambridge MA 1887 William Phelan laborer 40 Bolton Cambridge MA 1887 William T. Phelan glazer 10 Arrow Athens place Cambridge MA 1887 Edmund M. Phelan cooper 189 Pearl Cambridge MA 1888 Edmund T. Phelan foreman of bindery 105 Magazine house 316 Pearl Cambridge MA 1888 Ellen Phelan, widow of Timothy A. house 30 Mt. Auburn Cambridge MA 1888 James Phelan Riverside Press lithographer house 14 Grant Cambridge MA 1888 Jeremiah J. Phelan F. R. R. switchman boards 40 Bolton Cambridge MA 1888 John T. Phelan plumber 17 Brattle 10 Saville Cambridge MA 1888 Martin Phelan baker 502 Main Cambridge MA 1888 Patrick Phelan house 3 Clark Cambridge MA 1888 Thomas J. Phelan stone cutter 8 Clay Cambridge MA 1888 William Phelan gardener Mt. Auburn, corner Elmwood avenue Cambridge MA 1888 William Phelan laborer house 40 Bolton Cambridge MA 1888 William T. Phelan glazier 10 Arrow Mt. Auburn, corner Elmwood avenue Cambridge MA 1888 Edmund T. Phelan bindery foreman 105 Magazine house 316 Pearl Cambridge MA 1889 Ellen Phelan, widow of Timothy A. house 30 Mount Auburn Cambridge MA 1889 James Phelan Riverside Press lithographer house 14 Grant Cambridge MA 1889 Jeremiah J. Phelan F. R. R. switchman boards 30 Bolton Cambridge MA 1889 John T. Phelan plumber 17 Brattle house 10 Saville Cambridge Martin Phelan laborer 502 Main Cambridge MA 1889 Patrick Phelan house 3 Clark Cambridge MA 1889 Thomas J. Phelan stone cutter house 8 Clay Cambridge MA 1889 William Phelan gardener house Mount Auburn, corner of Elmwood avenue Cambridge MA 1889 William Phelan laborer house 40 Bolton Cambridge MA 1889 William T. Phelan glazier 10 Arrow Mount Auburn, corner Elmwood avenue Cambridge MA 1889 Edmund T. Phelan Cambridgeport Diary Co. foreman of bindery Blackstone house 316 Pearl Cambridge MA 1890 Edward Phelan teamster 54 Ellery b. do Cambridge MA 1890 Mrs. Elizabeth Phelan second hand furnitare 383 Main house 6 Clark Cambridge MA 1890 Ellen Phelan, widow of Timothy A. house 30 Mount Auburn Cambridge MA 1890 George E. Phelan assistant bookkeeper 9 Tremont, B. boards 189 Pearl Cambridge MA 1890 James Phelan Riverside Press lithographer house 14 Grant Cambridge MA 1890 James Phelan city laborer house 71 Elm Cambridge MA 1890 Jeremiah J. Phelan F. R. R. switchman boards 30 Bolton Cambridge MA 1890 John T. Phelan plumber 17 Brattle 10 Saville Cambridge MA 1890 Reverend Michael J. Phelan street Joseph's Academy chaplain house do Cambridge MA 1890 Patrick Phelan clerk 383 Main house Arlington Cambridge MA 1890 Thomas J. Phelan stone cutter house 8 Clay Cambridge MA 1890 William Phelan gardener house Mount Auburn, corner Elmwood avnnue Cambridge MA 1890 William Phelan laborer house 40 Bolton Cambridge MA 1890 William T. Phelan foreman 10 Arrow Mount Auburn, corner Elmwood ave. Cambridge MA 1890 http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1890cambma&gs=phalen&query=phalen&submit=Search&DatabaseID=4690&Title=Cambridge%2C+Massachusetts+Directories%2C+1887-90&DatabaseName=1890cambma&SearchEngine=sse.dll&Server=search&Type=F Fenton Phalen teamster b. rear 180 Main Cambridge MA 1887 Lucinda R. Phalen, widow of Joseph 4 Murray Cambridge MA 1887 Martin J. Phalen laborer boards 9 Donnell Cambridge MA 1887 William Phalen organ casemaker 72 Washington Cambridge MA 1887 Lucinda R. Phalen, widow of Joseph 4 Murray Cambridge MA 1888 Martin J. Phalen laborer boards 7 Franklin Cambridge MA 1888 Michael Phalen teamster 180 Main boards rear do. Cambridge MA 1888 William Phalen organ case maker 162 Broadway house 72 Washington Cambridge MA 1888 Lucinda R. Phalen, widow of Joseph house 65 Bay Cambridge MA 1889 William Phalen organ casemaker 162 Broadway house 72 Washington Cambridge MA 1889 Lucinda R. Phalen, widow of Joseph boarding 65 Boylston house do Cambridge MA 1890 Vinton Phalen laborer boards 3 Deacon Cambridge MA 1890 William Phalen organ case maker house 72 Washington Cambridge MA 1890

Yes, I would describe the Phelan/Whalen's as very very closed-mouthed. I do not recognize your grandfather's or dad's name but will keep my eyes open. Our Whalen's are from Fall River, Mass area (mostly). Your father is about the same age as mine. Keep in touch. Carol Phelan

All, I've been on the list from the beginning but haven't posted often. So here's my PHELAN info: PHELAN, Thomas b.ca 1833 probably Wexford, Ireland father: unknown, possibly William WHELAN of Haggard, Rathroe, Wexford mother: unknown married: circa 1855 to Bridget CUMMINS b.ca 1837, Haggard, Rathroe, Wexford; d/o John & Ellen CUMMINS died: 1880, New York City, NY, USA Immigrated: circa 1855 to Canada, location unknown Children: John Joseph, b.ca 1857, Canada, location unknown - died 1887 in NYC, unmarried, no descendents Mary Ellen, b.ca 1859, Canada, location unknown - died 1935, unmarried, no descendents Anastasia, b.ca 1862, Canada, location unknown - m.1888 to Wm. H. CARR, NY City - d.1901 NYC; Wm. H. CARR d.1904 NYC - Anastasia's 4 children were raised by Mary Ellen This family was in New York City by 1870. I know that Bridget CUMMINS is from Haggard, Rathroe, Wexford. Also, my grandmother (dau of Anastasia PHELAN) had as a baptismal sponsor, William WHEALAN. A review of Griffith Valuation Index shows one William WHELAN located in Haggard, Rathroe, Wexford. So it is possible that Thomas is from the same townland as his wife, Bridget. Any help with Thomas PHELAN's parents would be appreciated. I am also interested in locating the descendents of Anastasia's sons, Bill and "Joe" CARR. Thank you. Loretta