This sounds very interesting! Can you tell me more about this person - James or John from Co Queens? My family came from there and my great-great grandfather James Phelan may have been the person in question or his brother. He was one of two brothers who came over in the early 1800s. We have a clear picture of his descendents, but not of the brother. My family has been trying to find a link with the James D. Phelan, who was the famous mayor of San Francisco in the early 1900s, and who definitely came from Co. Queens. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Womack" <ken-womack@worldnet.att.net> To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 8:11 PM Subject: [Phelan] James Phelan > Sorry but just read my message and realized I made a mistake. The Phelan that came to US from Queens Co., Ireland was named JOHN Phelan not James. James was his son, the senator. Gl;enda (Phelan listmanager) > > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > Irish Proverb: The older the fiddle, the sweeter the tune > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

Sorry but just read my message and realized I made a mistake. The Phelan that came to US from Queens Co., Ireland was named JOHN Phelan not James. James was his son, the senator. Gl;enda (Phelan listmanager)

I got a new book and thought I would share what turned up in it: (Sorry, folks, but nothing on PHELAN or variant spelling except for Whelen. "Early Church records of Chester Co., PA - Vol. 2" by Charlotte Meldum & Martha Reamy and published by Willow Bend Book, Westminster, MD 1999. Uwchland Monthly Meeting Marriages, Births & Burials 1720-1800 WHELEN, John and Martha and their children: Dennis b. 5th day, 5th month, 1764; James born 21st day, 3rd month, 1767; Joseph born 21st day, 9th month 1769 & died 6th mo, 1789; Ann born 19th day, 9th month, 1773 died 1st month, 1778; Sarah born 16th day, 5th month 1776; Phebe born 8th day, 12th month 1778; Ann born 26th day, 3rd mnth 1783 Uwchland Monthly Meeting, Certificates of Removal (Issued) 1763-1800 6th day, 2nd month 1777 Townsend WHELEN to Philadelphia Monthly Meeting; 5th day, 6th month 1783 Isaac WHELEN to Philadelphia Monthly Meetin; 10th day, 2nd month 1785 Joseph WHELEN being placed by his parents to Philadelphia MM Goshen MM - Marriages, Births & Deaths 1722-1800 WHALEN, Dennis & wife, Ann and their dhildren; Mary born 1740.1.28; John born 1742.6.19; Catharine born 1744.9.23; Phebe born 1746.8.21; WHALEN, Dennis & wife, Sarah and their children: Ann born 1750.8.13; Israel born 1752.12.13; Isaac born 1754.8.3; Sarah born 1756.11.20

Dean, I have a copy of an article titled "Biographical Sketch of Hunt Phelan" published in The National Cyclopedia. A brief synopsis follows: William Richardson (Hunt) PHELAN was a lawyer born in Louisville, Ky on 10-8-1873, son of George Richardson Phelan and Julia Tate Hunt. His parents were temporarily in KY having gone there from Memphis, TN to escape a yellow fever epidemic. His godparents were Jefferson DAVIS and Mrs. Davis. His great grandfather was James PHELAN, a native of Marysborough, Queens (now Leix) Co., Ireland, a graduate of Trinity College, Dublin, a soldier and patriot in the Irish cause, who came to the US in 1793, settling first in NY city. At different times he lived in New Brunswick, NJ, Baltimore, MD, Richmond, VA & Huntsville, AL being in the banking business. JAMES PHELAN, who married Eliza Jones Moore, was a noted lawyer in Mississippi and Alabama, a senator from MS in the Confederate congress in 1862-63, judge advocate of the Confederate States, 1864-65 and after the Civil War practiced law in Memphis, TN. His gggrandson, Bill Day, lives here in Memphis, TN Hope this will help prove that he was born in the US.

Michael Whelan AKA Whalen, Wallen, etc., was, according to his tombstone, born in Rathdowney, Queens Co. Ireland in 1832. In 1863 he married Ann Jackson of Co. Mayo at either Queen of Peace in Hawley, Wayne Co. Pa. or St. Mary's in Lackawaxen, Pike Co. Pa. Looking for any possible connections to his family or neighbors. Thanks - Jim M.

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Looking for the phamilies of JOHN & SUSANA (WHITTAKER) PHELAN. Their children: ANN married ANDREW McDERMOTT DENNIS married MARY ANN KIELEY JAMES married BRIDGET TIERNEY MICHAEL married ISABELLA TIERNEY SUSAN married JOHN CONNELLY ELIZABETH married PATRICK DOWNEY JOHN married BRIDGET O'SHEA ELLEN married JAMES STAPLETON The Phelan Phamily came phrom Balyragget in County Kilkenny. They arrived in Canada in 1832 and were among the first 33 settlers of Stratford, Ontario. The phamily left Stratford by 1852 and settled the villages of Chepstow and Holyrood in Ontario. JAMES and MICHAEL have been lost. We know that JAMES went to somewhere in Illinois and MICHAEL went to Oklahoma (maybe). There's plenty more to tell .... Raymond John Phelan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Womack" <ken-womack@worldnet.att.net> To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 5:51 PM Subject: [Phelan] Roll Call > In the last 2 weeks we've had 4 new Phelan researchers go on line. Now > might be the time for everyone to put out a new query! > > As for me I'm looking for my greatgrandfather's sibling's descendants. His > siblings are as follows: > > #1. Ipsy PHELAN, married John G. Caraker in IL 1844 > > #2. Rebecca PHELAN b. 1825 married Silas Jones in IL 1841 (later married ? > Corzine) > Their children were: Jesse b. Jones 1840, > James Monroe Jones b. 1842, > Sarah Catharine Jones b. 1844 > Rachel Caroline Jones b. 1846 > > #3. Jeremiah T. PHELAN married Mrs. Mary Ledbetter in IL 1842 > > #4. Dicie B. PHELAN married John Henderson Corzine in 1858 > > #5. Berryman Shepherd PHELAN - believe this to be the Same as > Benjamin S. Phelan who married Jane Cobb in 1842 in Cape Girardeau, > MO > Berryman lived in Cape Girardeau in 1844, purchased land in Osage > Co., MO > in 1849, also purchased land in Miller Co, MO in 1856 > > #6. Giden J. PHELAN - Born in 1823, married to Rebecca J. > served in Civil War in E. 18th Inf and residence listed as > Clear Creek, IL (believe that is in either Union Co or Alexander Co) > Children: Sarah H. 1844 > Harriet E (or N) 1845 > James M. 1848 > > #7. Francis M. Phelan - lived in Oregan in 1844 > > Glenda > (listmanager) > > > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > Irish Proverb: Whats good for the goose is good for the gander > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

Looking for information on JOHN PHELAN and his wife BRIDGET BUCKLEY, both born in Ireland. They emigrated to Canada prior to 1856. Their son, JEREMIAH JOSEPH PHELAN was born in Durham, (Grey Co.) Ontario, Canada on September 3, 1856. Thanks! Frankie McGraw-Nicol Hamilton, On Canada Researching: McGrath/McGraw, Devaney, Wren, McKenna, O'Donnell, Phelan, Buckley, Bennett and Tarrant (All Ireland to Canada) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

> Ken, I would like the source for your info re: Patrick & Wm Phelan. No big > rush. > Thanks, Carol Phelan I'll be going back to library in next couple of weeks. This will be on top of my agenda. Sorry I didn't get it the first time. Glenda (listmanager)

In the last 2 weeks we've had 4 new Phelan researchers go on line. Now might be the time for everyone to put out a new query! As for me I'm looking for my greatgrandfather's sibling's descendants. His siblings are as follows: #1. Ipsy PHELAN, married John G. Caraker in IL 1844 #2. Rebecca PHELAN b. 1825 married Silas Jones in IL 1841 (later married ? Corzine) Their children were: Jesse b. Jones 1840, James Monroe Jones b. 1842, Sarah Catharine Jones b. 1844 Rachel Caroline Jones b. 1846 #3. Jeremiah T. PHELAN married Mrs. Mary Ledbetter in IL 1842 #4. Dicie B. PHELAN married John Henderson Corzine in 1858 #5. Berryman Shepherd PHELAN - believe this to be the Same as Benjamin S. Phelan who married Jane Cobb in 1842 in Cape Girardeau, MO Berryman lived in Cape Girardeau in 1844, purchased land in Osage Co., MO in 1849, also purchased land in Miller Co, MO in 1856 #6. Giden J. PHELAN - Born in 1823, married to Rebecca J. served in Civil War in E. 18th Inf and residence listed as Clear Creek, IL (believe that is in either Union Co or Alexander Co) Children: Sarah H. 1844 Harriet E (or N) 1845 James M. 1848 #7. Francis M. Phelan - lived in Oregan in 1844 Glenda (listmanager)

Since I have rejoined the Phelan list I thought I better send in a query on who I'm looking for. Mary Feland m. Enoch McKinney (McKenney or Kenney) in Lincoln Co., KY, 20JUN1795. The marriage bond was signed by John Feland. Enoch had a land entry in Green Co. in 1798, which was on Harrod's Fork at Crocus. (branch of Cumberland River). This, due to county line changes, changed to Adair Co. KY and they remained there until 1818 and then apparently moved on to Boone Co. MO. I have been searching for several years and although I have pretty good info on where their son Stephen McKinney went I lost Enoch in MO after 1822 and never found out anything about Mary. Eunice emy@oregontrail.net researching McKinney, Feland, Anderson, Riggs, Boyer, Holman, Jervis, Hill, Robinson

Ken, I would like the source for your info re: Patrick & Wm Phelan. No big rush. Thanks, Carol Phelan

FYI - Unfortunately, I failed to copy the page that showed what newspaper this came from. If anyone interested, I'll go back to the library and get that info. Glenda "Genealogical Abstracts from Tennessee Newspapers 1803-1812" complied by Sherida K. Eddlemon, published by Heitage Books, Inc. September 4, 1811, Vol. 3, No. 118 New York, August 7th. Patrick and William PHELAN, two passengers from the ship Belisariou from Dublin, were removed by the British sloop Atlanta. Upon arrival of the Atlanta at Halifax, the following persons were removed to a sloop which sailed for the Isle of St. Johns with orders, that they were to be put on the estate of Lord James Townsend: Richard King, Jane King, James King, Mary King, Jane King (sic), John Gilbert, John Birk, Eliza Birk, Thomas Walsh, Thomas Newnam, Lawrence Current, Thomas Bird, Mary Bird, Valient Needham, Cath. Needham, Eliza Needham, Joseph Gilbert, Ann Gilbert, Ally Burton, Michael Murphy.

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The following was taken from the Green Co., PA mailing list. Sorry but I don't know anything but what came over the list so won't be able to answer any questions. Since they didn't say what newspaper this came from and if you're interested, you could probably send a message to PAGREEN-L@rootsweb.com and find out more info from Jim Fordyce who sent the message out. I'm just passing it on FYI. Hope it will help someone. Glenda (listmanager) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [PAGREENE-L] Deaths, Marr., Misc. Articles, Apr-Jun, 1871 (Pt 2/2) We regret to learn that our young friend, Joe W. PHELAN, who lately left Waynesburg and engaged in the grocery business in Leavenworth, Kansas, was burned out last week. He has our sympathies and that of his many friends here, but we know Joe well and are very sure that his energy and fine pluck will soon set him right again. June 14, 1871 -------------------- GRAND FESTIVAL AND ENTERTAINMENT at Jefferson, Greene county, Pa., Tuesday, July 4th, for the benefit of the M. E. Church. The entertainment to consist of addresses by able and eminent speakers. Dinner, and supper in the evening. Each lady who contributes a necktie made of the same kind of material of the dress worn by her on that evening, will be admitted free of charge to supper. Prizes to be awarded in the evening by vote. Committee: Messrs. Dr. Leonidas Laidley, G. W. Daugherty, James J. Pauley, B. F. Flenniken, R. H. PHELAN, Jas. Inghram, T. J. Speakman, Thomas Lucas, T. J. teal, Jesse Phillips, Jacob Conn, Wm. Nickerson, Uriah Teagarden, J. L. DeGood, J. M. Baily, Geo. L. Inghram, William Orr, C. W. Roberts, Geo. Weaver, Lacy Craft, Joseph Gwynn, Rinehart Gwynn Scott, Joseph Arvecost. June 14, 1871

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Hello Listers, I'm the new kid on the block! I've been researching my surname (NIHEN) for over 30 years and was recently informed that a group of NIHANs or NIHENs lived in the Niagara-Ontario region. My surname is just "odd enough" to suggest a probable link between my family, living in the coal fields of Pennsylvania, and the Niagara-Ontario group. The problem is that although I have a folder filled with names, dates, and information regarding the "Canadian Cousins", I cannot make a link. My family extends back to my great grandfather, John Nihen, whom I can trace to Margam, Wales, in 1851. The family "story" is that John was born in Ireland (1843) and emigrated at a young age. I do have John's first marriage certificate ... 1864 Aberavon (Neath), Wales ... married to a Mary CLEMENS. John and Mary arrived in Audenried, Pennsylvania, in 1869. John remarried to Margaret Ann ELLIOTT, my great grandmother, and relocated to Lansford, Pennsylvania, my home. My reason for writing to this list is that two persons on the NIAGARA- ONT list gave me information that a PHELAN family was related to the NIHEN/NIHAN group. I'm hoping to find a relative and a connection. I do not know if my great grandfather had siblings. I have found, however, the names Michael, William, Cornelius, and David Nihen in various records from Wales and a grave near Audenreid, PA ... no one knows anything about these folks. (John's father, Daniel, was born in Ireland, according to John's 1907 death record.) Does this ring a bell with anyone? Until learning of the St. Catharines, Ontario, group, I believed the only location of my surname was in the coal pits of PA. Any leads or suggestions will be much appreciated. I would be absolutely thrilled to find family ... dead or alive! Thanks, Joe Nihen Pennsylvania Researching: NIHEN, NIHAN, ELLIOTT, FETKO/SPACK

----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Nihen <morse73@ptd.net> To: <Ken-Womack@worldnet.att.net> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 6:27 PM Subject: PML Search Result matching Phelan The following came off a canada mailing list. If anyone can help, you can respond directly to the mailing list at NIAGARA-ONT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NIAGARA] NIHAN = DAY-WINTERS-DAVIS! > > > > Dear Listers, > > I am reposting an e-mail I sent to this list 10 months ago. I wonder if > any new members might know any living members of the families > listed who could shed some light on the unusual surname NIHAN > (NIHEN). > > I'm convinced that there is a connection between my known > family and the St. Catharine's group ... the surname is just too > unusual not to be connected. > > I have found some unknown NIHENs listed on 1860s documents > from Neath, Wales ... my great grandfather's first marriage document > for starters. > > I was told of a Phelan family who once owned a store in St. > Catharines might be of help. Does anyone know the Phelans? > > Winter has resumed its grip on Northeastern Pennsylvania ... just > the right weather to resume my search for "roots". > > This list has been of great help to me in the past. I'm sorry I couldn't > be of any reciprocal help. However, the offer stands ... I live in > Carbon County ... the anthracite fields of PA. > > Any leads will be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Joe Nihen > Pennsylvania > Researching: NIHEN, NIHAN, ELLIOTT, FETKO/SPACK > > > > > > > Hello Listers, > > > > > > A kind woman named Carolyn searched for the obits of Thomas and > > > Ann Shea NIHAN and came up with three leads to the NIHAN family > > > and one little Carmel NIHAN, age 4 (1901 Census), from St., > > > Catharines. > > > > > > It appears Ann Shea NIHAN died on or near August 2, 1952. Her obit > > > states she was survived by three daughters: Mrs. A.C. (Carmel) DAY of > > > St. Catherines, Mrs. E.E. (Helen)WINTERS of Hamilton, and > > > Mrs. Lawrence (Catherine) DAVIS of "this city". (I'm assuming "this > > > city" is St.Catherines.) > > > > > > This leads me to ask does anyone know of these families? Are there > > > living relatives to especially Carmel? > > > > > > Living members might shed some light on the probability of a link > > > to my family. > > > > > > Thank you for all the help in the past. This list has proven quite > > > valuable to my research. > > > > > > Joe Nihen > > > Pennsylvania > > > > > > > > > > > > >