Anyone who wants to view the archives of the Phelan mailing list from 1998 til present time can do so by going to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PHELAN . Glenda

We've recently discussed ships and how hard it is to find when or where your ancestors landed. The following info came from Ancestry.com and I thought I'd pass it on to the list in case it might help someone's research. Glenda Searching for ancestors on ship's passenger lists can either be the most frustrating experience imaginable or the most rewarding. The vast majority of my ancestors arrived in North America between the mid-1600s and the end of the 1700s. The more distant your ancestors' arrival dates are, the more difficult it will be to locate the records. That doesn't mean they no longer exist, but you should not jump to conclusions about what you may and may not find in the way of information in ships' passenger lists and manifests. In this week's "Along Those Lines . . ." let's examine some reasons why you might or might not find records of your ancestors' transport to North America, and an example of why you should never overlook a resource. WHERE ARE THE RECORDS? Record keeping in the shipping industry has been common since ancient times. Cargo manifests were important documents for determining what was scheduled to be transported, what was actually laded, what was actually transported, and what was actually delivered. Sometimes a shipment didn't arrive in time to make the voyage, and sometimes it didn't survive the trip. As passenger travel became a more lucrative business, fares for passage were booked and people were scheduled to make the voyage. Passenger lists or manifests were prepared by the shipping company (or ship's owner). People were checked off as they boarded the ship and the "no-shows" were crossed off. During the voyage, if a passenger died or if another passenger gave birth, the ship's captain, purser or other clerical person noted the fact on the manifest. At the destination, passengers were checked off as they disembarked. Crew members were not always listed on the passenger manifests, especially in earlier years, because it was assumed they were employees of the shipping company engaged for the round trip. In the earliest times, let's say prior to 1820, passenger lists may have ended up anywhere. They may have been maintained by a shipping agent, a court, a governor, or some other person or agency. By the same token, these manifests may be found in museums, archives, courthouses, or in private hands. Worse, they may have been lost or destroyed. It therefore sometimes makes sense to look at the originating end of the voyage for a record of the manifest created and maintained by the shipping company. The Spanish National Archives (http://www.iue.it/LIB/SISSCO/VL/hist-spain/archives.html) and the Portuguese National Archives (Web site currently inactive), for example, are repositories of massive collections of ships' manifests and passenger lists going back a number of centuries. Other countries' national archives may be able to assist you in locating original documents as well. In later times, particularly after 1820, passenger lists may be in existence at the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). They may well have been microfilmed by NARA and you may order copies from them. Two of the very best printed references available to help you in your search are John Philip Colletta's excellent book, "They Came in Ships," and William Filby and Paula K. Byers' "Passenger and Immigration Lists Index" and annual supplements. In addition, you can learn much from the NARA Web site at http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/immigrant/immpass.html and you can also refer to the ongoing work in progress at the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild's site at RootsWeb (http://istg.rootsweb.com).

Check this site out for more databases on ship passengers. http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/immigrant/immpass.html Glenda

FYI only. I took it from the Mariners-L@rootsweb.com mailing list. Glenda > > > 1881 Mariners, Gulval, Cornwall > > Vessel "IMPORTER" > WHALEN James u 19 L'Pool, Lancs OS

I am looking for a John Whalen, son of John Whalen and Mary Powers Whalen of county Waterford Ireland. His brother Martin Whalen and Ellen Powers Whalen are my great grandparents. John Whalen was suppose to lived in Perry N.C. in the early 1900's. Jann Whalen Parks Please check Remus Free Summer Music Program at www.remusmusic.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Womack" <ken-womack@worldnet.att.net> To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:10 PM Subject: [Phelan] Re: [Phalen] Phelan mailing list > Sorry, folks, but I sent this to the Phalen list instead of the intended > Phelan list. I got my fingers twisted. Glenda > > > Doug, you had to have subscribed to the Phelan mailing list at some time. > I > > am the list manager and as a rule I do not subscribe anyone unless someone > > writes directly to me asking for help. Even then I give the address with > > instructions to subscribe and try to get them to subscribe themselves. > > > > Right now we have about 130 Phelan researchers in the US, Australia, > > Ireland, New Zealand, Mexico and Canada. In fact there are quite a few > > Canada researchers. I would recommend, Doug, that you send a message to > > Phelan-L@rootsweb.com and give us basic information on your earliest known > > ancestor, i.e. name, time frame, area, sibling's names, etc. if you have > > it. Perhaps there will be someone on line just waiting to make a > connection > > to you. This is a wonderful way to share information. > > > > As far as John Whelan's problem, anytime a message is sent to > > Phelan-L@rootsweb.com by anyone, EVERYONE (all 130 researchers) gets the > > same message. When anyone responds to the message, the mailing list is set > > up that it goes back to the mailing list and EVERYONE on the list receives > > it. However, if the responder wants to, the address can be altered to be > > sent only to the individual that initiates the message. This is up to the > > responder. Hope this explains how the mailing list works. > > > > I hope you guys stay with us BUT if anyone wants to get off the list, all > > you have to do is send a message to Phelan-L-request@rootsweb.com and put > > only the word > > > > unsubscribe > > > > in the body of the letter. If you are on the digest mailing list, then > > you'd have to send the message to Phelan-D-request@rootsweb.com and put > the > > same unsubscribe message. > > > > If anyone has more questions or needs help in some way, you can reach me > > (Glenda) at Ken-Womack@worldnet.att.net . > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone (whoever gets this reply) > > > > > > I'm also suddenly getting a bunch of mail from you guys and don't know > how > > > or why either...My name is Doug Phelan from Ontario Canada and have done > > > research on Phelans that landed in Montreal Canada then spread across > the > > > country .... > > > > > > Where are you guys actually posting your messages this seems to be > some > > > sort of Phelan Mailing list I'm on.... not sure how though > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: JMWhalen@aol.com <JMWhalen@aol.com> > > > To: PHALEN-L@rootsweb.com <PHALEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Date: July 12, 2001 13:30 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Phalen] Re: DOROTHEA PHALEN > > > > > > > > > >In a message dated 7/12/2001 11:41:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > >etchiemo@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Joan, I've seen quite a few Phalen surnames from New York. You could > > try > > > >> familysearch.com or do a search on one of the search engines. I > > > personally > > > >> do not know any of them as my family settled in West Virginia. Hope > > this > > > >> > > > > > > > >Although I'm not sure why, I'm beginning to get a lot of responses > > > regarding > > > >the Phalen surname in WV. I may have posted a query for WV, but the WV > > > branch > > > >of my family would be Hatfield, Rowe, Foley. The Whalen branch, which > may > > > >have evolved from Phelan, originated in Ireland, and as far as I can > tell > > > at > > > >this point emigrated from there to CT. > > > > > > > >I suspect there is a glitch routing this information to me, but if > > somebody > > > >can send me the link they responded to, it would help. Since I'm > getting > > > >somebody else's (Joan, in this case) responses, it only makes sense > that > > > >someone else may be getting some that should be coming to me. > > > > > > > >Thanks tho for the reply, sent with helpful intentions, in Joan's > > absence. > > > > > > > >John (not Joan, although I am having a MILD identity crisis) Whalen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PHALEN Mailing List ==== > > > >Irish Toast - Here's health to your enemies' enemies! > > > > > > > >============================== > > > >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > > > > > ==== PHALEN Mailing List ==== > > > Irish Toast - May the grass grow long on the road to hell for want of > use. > > > > > > ============================== > > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PHALEN Mailing List ==== > > Irish Toast - May you live to be a hundred years, with one extra year to > repent. > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > Irish Proverb: A trout in the pot is better than a salmon in the sea. > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >

I am looking For a John Whalen from Perry N.C. in the Court, Land and Probate. Can you help? Thank you Jann Whalen Parks Please check Remus Free Summer Music Program at www.remusmusic.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Womack" <ken-womack@worldnet.att.net> To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:24 PM Subject: [Phelan] Volunteer lookup sites > The following is a data base of books that people will do free lookups for > you. I'm on there for several books and I get a lot of requests for lookups > in the 1850 all counties census for TN. If anyone needs a lookup there for > any surname, just holler. Glenda > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > Irish toast: May the Lord keep you in his hand and never close his fist too tight on you. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Try this site. I'm not playing with a full deck and forgot to show it on the last message. http://www.rootsweb.com/~bwo/index.html . Glenda > I am looking For a John Whalen from Perry N.C. in the Court, Land and > Probate. Can you help? Thank you Jann Whalen Parks

The following is a data base of books that people will do free lookups for you. I'm on there for several books and I get a lot of requests for lookups in the 1850 all counties census for TN. If anyone needs a lookup there for any surname, just holler. Glenda

Sorry, folks, but I sent this to the Phalen list instead of the intended Phelan list. I got my fingers twisted. Glenda > Doug, you had to have subscribed to the Phelan mailing list at some time. I > am the list manager and as a rule I do not subscribe anyone unless someone > writes directly to me asking for help. Even then I give the address with > instructions to subscribe and try to get them to subscribe themselves. > > Right now we have about 130 Phelan researchers in the US, Australia, > Ireland, New Zealand, Mexico and Canada. In fact there are quite a few > Canada researchers. I would recommend, Doug, that you send a message to > Phelan-L@rootsweb.com and give us basic information on your earliest known > ancestor, i.e. name, time frame, area, sibling's names, etc. if you have > it. Perhaps there will be someone on line just waiting to make a connection > to you. This is a wonderful way to share information. > > As far as John Whelan's problem, anytime a message is sent to > Phelan-L@rootsweb.com by anyone, EVERYONE (all 130 researchers) gets the > same message. When anyone responds to the message, the mailing list is set > up that it goes back to the mailing list and EVERYONE on the list receives > it. However, if the responder wants to, the address can be altered to be > sent only to the individual that initiates the message. This is up to the > responder. Hope this explains how the mailing list works. > > I hope you guys stay with us BUT if anyone wants to get off the list, all > you have to do is send a message to Phelan-L-request@rootsweb.com and put > only the word > > unsubscribe > > in the body of the letter. If you are on the digest mailing list, then > you'd have to send the message to Phelan-D-request@rootsweb.com and put the > same unsubscribe message. > > If anyone has more questions or needs help in some way, you can reach me > (Glenda) at Ken-Womack@worldnet.att.net . > > > > > Hi everyone (whoever gets this reply) > > > > I'm also suddenly getting a bunch of mail from you guys and don't know how > > or why either...My name is Doug Phelan from Ontario Canada and have done > > research on Phelans that landed in Montreal Canada then spread across the > > country .... > > > > Where are you guys actually posting your messages this seems to be some > > sort of Phelan Mailing list I'm on.... not sure how though > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: JMWhalen@aol.com <JMWhalen@aol.com> > > To: PHALEN-L@rootsweb.com <PHALEN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: July 12, 2001 13:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [Phalen] Re: DOROTHEA PHALEN > > > > > > >In a message dated 7/12/2001 11:41:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > >etchiemo@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > > > > >> Joan, I've seen quite a few Phalen surnames from New York. You could > try > > >> familysearch.com or do a search on one of the search engines. I > > personally > > >> do not know any of them as my family settled in West Virginia. Hope > this > > >> > > > > > >Although I'm not sure why, I'm beginning to get a lot of responses > > regarding > > >the Phalen surname in WV. I may have posted a query for WV, but the WV > > branch > > >of my family would be Hatfield, Rowe, Foley. The Whalen branch, which may > > >have evolved from Phelan, originated in Ireland, and as far as I can tell > > at > > >this point emigrated from there to CT. > > > > > >I suspect there is a glitch routing this information to me, but if > somebody > > >can send me the link they responded to, it would help. Since I'm getting > > >somebody else's (Joan, in this case) responses, it only makes sense that > > >someone else may be getting some that should be coming to me. > > > > > >Thanks tho for the reply, sent with helpful intentions, in Joan's > absence. > > > > > >John (not Joan, although I am having a MILD identity crisis) Whalen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== PHALEN Mailing List ==== > > >Irish Toast - Here's health to your enemies' enemies! > > > > > >============================== > > >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > > ==== PHALEN Mailing List ==== > > Irish Toast - May the grass grow long on the road to hell for want of use. > > > > ============================== > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ==== PHALEN Mailing List ==== > Irish Toast - May you live to be a hundred years, with one extra year to repent. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

Annette, I was just passing the information on to the list in case someone wanted to contact the person who put out the query on the Russell mailing list. Unfortunately, I have no other knowledge of this line. The person who sent out the query was Juliwai@qci.net and not me. You would need to contact them to see if you can connect. I belong to a service provided by Rootsweb that sends me a copy of any mail sent out on a Rootsweb mailing list which mentions the names of Phelan, Phalen, Whelan, Whalen, etc. I pass on anything that I think might be of interest to anyone on the list. I usally know absolutely nothing about the info as I'm only passing it along in case it will help someone. I hope this explains the FYI only messages that I send out. Any questions, just let me know at Ken-womack@worldnet.att.net. Thanks, Glenda > hello Glenda & all, > In response to the Phelan/Russell lines: > I have an Eddy Phelan b. 1869, son/dau? of David S. Phelan b.cir.1841 TN & > Elizabeth (?) b. 1848; > > David S. Phelan was son of David S. Phelan b. 1814 d. 1853 (md. to > Celia/Selay A. Hart b.cir.1815 NC d. 1850 Gibson Co,TN) > > son of David Phelan b.1797 NC d. 1862 Trenton,Gibson,TN (md. to Susan b. > 1797 NC d. 1863 Trenton,Gibson,TN) > * > Separately, I have a David Joseph Phelan of Monterey Park,,CA (md. to Rebecca > Lyn Russell); > > son of Charles Green Phelan II b.1895 LaPlace,,LA d.1967 Monterey park,,CA > (md. to Ruth Dorthea Smith); > > son of Charles Green Phelan b.1864 Trenton,Gibson,TN d.1931 San Fernando,Los > Angeles,CA (md. to Marie Felicete Georgina Reine fm La Place,,LA) > > son of Edmund Haywood "Ned" Phelan b. 1818 NC d. 1881 Trenton,Gibson,TN (md. > to Sarah Ann M. Green) > > son of David Phelan b.1797 NC d. 1862 Trenton,Gibson,TN (md. to Susan (?) b. > 1979 d. 1863) > --- > I have about 30 Russell's in the Pulaski/White/other areas of Arkansas, can't > determine connection w/Phelan's though. > Any connections w/you? Would appreciate more info from your Bible. Please > email separately in addition to the list. > thanks for any input. :) > Annette Barron (formerly of Gibson Co,TN) <tngenes@cs.com> > Virginia Beach, VA > > > Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 23:04:11 -0400 > > From: "Kenneth Womack" <ken-womack@worldnet.att.net> > > To: PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [Phelan] Young Phelan - AR to CA > > > > The following taken from the Russell mailing list. It came from > > Juliwai@qci.net if anyone wants to respond to them. Glenda > > > > > Subject: [RUSSELL-L] Russell & Phelan > > > After the passing of my mother I was given a family bible that contain the > > names of Young Phelan, Cecil Lucinda Russell and their children. Not having > > a clue as to how they relate to my family line I search the Calif Death > > Index and discovered that both Phelan and Russell names connected as mother > > or father of several Deady children. > > > If anyone can help me solve this mystery, I will gladly share the bible > > information with them. I can offer Etta C. Phelan b. 7/22/1869 (AR?) d. > > 3/19/1948 Sonoma, CA married ? Mullen; as a starting point. Etta's father > > was Young Phelan, mother was Cecil Russell. Both of AR but died in CA. > > Thanks for any help. > > > > > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > Irish Proverb: A narrow neck keeps the bottle from being emptied in one swig. > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

Taken from the Kentucky Research mailing list. Passing it on FYI only. Glenda > Source: KYRESEARCH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: TIP #349 - ANDERSONVILLE PRISON DEATHS AT THROUGH Z & > > > Conclusion of the prisoners of war who died at Andersonville Prisons. These > men are buried at the National Cemetery. > > > Whalen, James Jr. , Pvt, 18 KY Cav, Co C, grave 2199. > CONFEDERATE KENTUCKY REGIMENTS: See > http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/regiments.htm for a clickable list of soldier > in each regiment. .asu.edu/~moore/sck.html

hello Glenda & all, In response to the Phelan/Russell lines: I have an Eddy Phelan b. 1869, son/dau? of David S. Phelan b.cir.1841 TN & Elizabeth (?) b. 1848; David S. Phelan was son of David S. Phelan b. 1814 d. 1853 (md. to Celia/Selay A. Hart b.cir.1815 NC d. 1850 Gibson Co,TN) son of David Phelan b.1797 NC d. 1862 Trenton,Gibson,TN (md. to Susan b. 1797 NC d. 1863 Trenton,Gibson,TN) * Separately, I have a David Joseph Phelan of Monterey Park,,CA (md. to Rebecca Lyn Russell); son of Charles Green Phelan II b.1895 LaPlace,,LA d.1967 Monterey park,,CA (md. to Ruth Dorthea Smith); son of Charles Green Phelan b.1864 Trenton,Gibson,TN d.1931 San Fernando,Los Angeles,CA (md. to Marie Felicete Georgina Reine fm La Place,,LA) son of Edmund Haywood "Ned" Phelan b. 1818 NC d. 1881 Trenton,Gibson,TN (md. to Sarah Ann M. Green) son of David Phelan b.1797 NC d. 1862 Trenton,Gibson,TN (md. to Susan (?) b. 1979 d. 1863) --- I have about 30 Russell's in the Pulaski/White/other areas of Arkansas, can't determine connection w/Phelan's though. Any connections w/you? Would appreciate more info from your Bible. Please email separately in addition to the list. thanks for any input. :) Annette Barron (formerly of Gibson Co,TN) <tngenes@cs.com> Virginia Beach, VA > Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 23:04:11 -0400 > From: "Kenneth Womack" <ken-womack@worldnet.att.net> > To: PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Phelan] Young Phelan - AR to CA > > The following taken from the Russell mailing list. It came from > Juliwai@qci.net if anyone wants to respond to them. Glenda > > > Subject: [RUSSELL-L] Russell & Phelan > > After the passing of my mother I was given a family bible that contain the > names of Young Phelan, Cecil Lucinda Russell and their children. Not having > a clue as to how they relate to my family line I search the Calif Death > Index and discovered that both Phelan and Russell names connected as mother > or father of several Deady children. > > If anyone can help me solve this mystery, I will gladly share the bible > information with them. I can offer Etta C. Phelan b. 7/22/1869 (AR?) d. > 3/19/1948 Sonoma, CA married ? Mullen; as a starting point. Etta's father > was Young Phelan, mother was Cecil Russell. Both of AR but died in CA. > Thanks for any help. > > >

I think I made a mistake.... There is NO Monroe County NC. Pitt County NC is on the far eastern side of NC, close to the coast. Monroe County TN in on the far eastern side of TN and borders NC. Does this help to clarify? So, Thomas Phelan was in Tennessee in 1830? Brenda

Hi cousins, The Thomas Failing in Gibson Co. in 1837 could be the same as the one in North Carolina in 1825, perhaps. I'm good with details, but fail to see the big picture sometimes... By the way, Thomas' brother, David's, name was spelled "Failing" on the 1820 Pitt County NC census, accoring to Ernie Phelan. Here's what Ernie Phelan sent me in abbreviated form (NOT my research): Edward Phaling 1790 census living alone Pitty County NC. Deed Book Pitt County NC 1795 witness with David Smith for sale of land by Hardee Smith. 1800 census Edmund Phelan Pitt County NC: He was 26-45; 3 sons under 10. One F. 16-26 and one 26-45. Deed Book Pitt County NC 1801: Hardee Smith grantee selling right to land furniture and stock from John Smith, son of David Smith to Edmund Phelan and Elcey Phelan, witfe Smith. Deed BookPitt County NC 1803 Elsey, sister is listed as grantee selling household goods to Hardee Smith. Deed Book Pitt County NC 11-01-1825 is a marriage ceontract between Thomas Phelan and Patsey Griffien with Willim Brown as the trustee. 1830 census it appears that Thomas Phelan is living in Monroe County (Me:I wonder what state? TN and NC both have Monore counties). He has 2 sons under 5 and 2 in the 5-10 year old category. He is listed as being 30-40 . There are 2 females 5-10, one 10-15, one 15-20, and one 30-40. (Next Ernie gives..) David Phelan & wife Susan of Gibson Co., TN gave Power of Atty. to Wiley Nobles; Susan was dau. of Elizabeth Hardee, dec'd of Pitt Co.; 1848. David Phelan was born May 10, 1797 in Pitt County NC , and died May 1862 in Trenton, TN (Gibson Co.). He married Susan (daughter of Elizabeth) Hardee in Pitt County NC (no date). There is a lot more on the Hardees and David Phelan's side, but I cannot find another reference to Thomas in Ernie's notes. I cannot find an 1830 census reference to his brother, David, in Ernie's notes. Lingering Questions: 1. Did David travel to Tenn. with Thomas before 1830? 2. Did Thomas and his wife go to Tenn. between their marriage in 1825 and 1830? 3. Was the 1830 census reference (for Thomas) to Monroe County in Tenn. or NC? 4. Where were David and his wife between 1820 and 1848? 5. Did Ernie check the 1830 census in both states for David? Does this help anyone? Brenda

Do you suppose this could be the will For the Gibson Co., TN Thomas Phelan?? FAILING, Thomas 1837, Willbook B page 145 Gibson Co Glenda

Does anyone know where Edmund Phelan was before 1790? Is David the Gibson Co line? Thanks, Glenda > Ernie Phelan emailed me his lengthy "report" which indicates that Edmund > PHELAN married Elcey SMITH in Pitt County, NC. (Newbern District). He shows > Edmund living alone on the 1790 census there. His two sons, David and > Thomas, were born in NC. David 10 May 1797. David m. Susan HARDEE. Thomas > (no dates) m. Patsey GRIFFIN. > > I was definitely able to connect my Joseph G. PHELAN to Edmund. Joseph was a > son of David. Joseph G. was b. in NC. in 1823, but married Amamda SPENCER in > Gibson County, TN 6 Oct 1842. > > I have researched most of the descendants and have spent the summer typing > everything into my Generations Family Tree software. > > I would like to trace these Phelans back to Ireland, where my grandmother > said they came from. I would appreciate any leads that would get Edmund and > / or Elcey back across the water. > > Ernie has posted several messages on rootsweb, which is how I found him. I > have emailed him recently with no reply. He may be busy, on vacation or > whatever. Be warned that I have not gone to primary sources yet to verify > all of the infromation back past my J. Green PHELAN. However Ernie had > documented much of his work with census records, land deeds, etc. You may > find some of his old postings at this site. > Brenda > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > Irish Proverb: Marriages are all happy - it's having breakfast together that causes all the trouble. > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

Brenda, Do you have any more info on the TN Phelans "Thomas" Did he have a son Thomas who went to NYC? The son would have been born about 1800. Thanks. Rene'

The following taken from the Russell mailing list. It came from Juliwai@qci.net if anyone wants to respond to them. Glenda > Subject: [RUSSELL-L] Russell & Phelan > > > > After the passing of my mother I was given a family bible that contain the names of Young Phelan, Cecil Lucinda Russell and their children. Not having a clue as to how they relate to my family line I search the Calif Death Index and discovered that both Phelan and Russell names connected as mother or father of several Deady children. > If anyone can help me solve this mystery, I will gladly share the bible information with them. I can offer Etta C. Phelan b. 7/22/1869 (AR?) d. 3/19/1948 Sonoma, CA married ? Mullen; as a starting point. Etta's father was Young Phelan, mother was Cecil Russell. Both of AR but died in CA. Thanks for any help. >

Just passing on some data taken from the Clay Co., AR mailing list. FYI only. > > Taken from the Clay County Courier,Corning, > Arkansas.......1953. > > > The Corning State Line Bluebirds bounced back from a two > game losing streak, Sunday, in their home park when they > blasted Peach Orchard 11 to nothng with nine runs in the > last three innings. > Jay SANDOR pitched three hit balls while going all the > way on the mound for the Bluebirds. He retired the first > 12 men to face him, allowing neither a hit nor a walk in > the first four innings,pitched to only 30 men in nine > innings, walked only one and fanned six. > > CLEVELAND on the hill for Peach ORCHARD, but was > relieved by Dolen RICKER in the bottom of the eighth, > after the Birds shelled him with six runs in the sixth > and seventh. > BAXLEY and LOYD singled for the Bluebirds in the first, > but CLEVELAND pitched his way out and held the lid on > the birds until the fourth. > In the home half of the fourth, Ray THOMAS and Bug > PHELAN scored two runs after two were out. > Peach Orchard got to SADOR for a pair of singles in the > fifth, but ARCHER hit into a double play. In the bottom > of the sixth, CLEVELAND lost control, and the Peach > Orchard infield opened up. LOYD, THOMAS and PHELAN, the > first three hitters, scored after getting on via an > error, a walk and a single. CLEVELAND wild pitched LOYD > home and the Bluebirds started a parade around the bases > that lasted through three innings and one relief pitcher. > BORDER touched SANDOR for the third Peach Orchard hit in > the ninth, a single, but BOWERS hit into a double paly > and the curve balling right hander struck out COX to end > the game. BAXLEY paced the hitters with three hits in > five trips to the plate and PHELAN doubled for extra > base hits.

Hello, Cousins Ernie Phelan emailed me his lengthy "report" which indicates that Edmund PHELAN married Elcey SMITH in Pitt County, NC. (Newbern District). He shows Edmund living alone on the 1790 census there. His two sons, David and Thomas, were born in NC. David 10 May 1797. David m. Susan HARDEE. Thomas (no dates) m. Patsey GRIFFIN. I was definitely able to connect my Joseph G. PHELAN to Edmund. Joseph was a son of David. Joseph G. was b. in NC. in 1823, but married Amamda SPENCER in Gibson County, TN 6 Oct 1842. I have researched most of the descendants and have spent the summer typing everything into my Generations Family Tree software. I would like to trace these Phelans back to Ireland, where my grandmother said they came from. I would appreciate any leads that would get Edmund and / or Elcey back across the water. Ernie has posted several messages on rootsweb, which is how I found him. I have emailed him recently with no reply. He may be busy, on vacation or whatever. Be warned that I have not gone to primary sources yet to verify all of the infromation back past my J. Green PHELAN. However Ernie had documented much of his work with census records, land deeds, etc. You may find some of his old postings at this site. Brenda