Thank you very much. I can days in that site.Jann Whalen Parks Please check Remus Free Summer Music Program at www.remusmusic.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Womack" <ken-womack@worldnet.att.net> To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [Phelan] Phelan Book > http://32.96.111.13/default.asp > > > Could please tell me where to find the LDS website. I haven't heard of the > website. Jann Whalen Parks > > > > > > > > I found mention of this book on the LDS website. Anybody know anything > about it?? Glenda > > > > > > Title: From Ayr to Thurber : three Hunter brothers and the winning > of the west > > Stmnt.Resp.: compiled by William Hunter McLean > > Authors: McLean, William Hunter , 1909- (Main Author) > > > > Notes: Includes index. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Includes Blair, Crosby, Goodman, McGown, McLean, Phelan and related > families. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Adam Hunter (ca. 1811-1879) immigrated from Ayr, Scotland to > Macoupin County, Illinois in 1843. Three sons, Robert Dickie Hunter, William > Hunter and David Hunter, moved to Missouri, Kansas, and Texas. This book " . > . .was prompted by loss of the Hunter name among their descendants as only > one son was born among them to die unmarried . . ." > > > > > > Subjects: Hunter > > Blair > > Crosby > > Goodman > > McGown > > McLean > > Phelan > > > > > > Copies > > Call Number Location > > 929.273 H916m JSMB FAMHIST Book > > > > > > Format: Books/Monographs > > Language: English > > Publication: Fort Worth, Tex. : Fort Worth Genealogical Society, > c1978 > > Physical: x, 158 p. : facsims., geneal. table, map, ports. > > > > > > Subject Class: 929.273 H916 > > > > > > > > © > > > > > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > > Irish Proverb: A narrow neck keeps the bottle from being emptied in one > swig. > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > Irish Proverb: An old broom knows the dirty corners best. > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > Irish Proverb: A silent mouth is sweet to hear. > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

Dawn, If no one else has spoken for it, I would love to have your information for Ellen Phealon. Thanks. Do I owe you anything? Carol Phelan

http://32.96.111.13/default.asp Could please tell me where to find the LDS website. I haven't heard of the website. Jann Whalen Parks > > > I found mention of this book on the LDS website. Anybody know anything about it?? Glenda > > > Title: From Ayr to Thurber : three Hunter brothers and the winning of the west > Stmnt.Resp.: compiled by William Hunter McLean > Authors: McLean, William Hunter , 1909- (Main Author) > > Notes: Includes index. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Includes Blair, Crosby, Goodman, McGown, McLean, Phelan and related families. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Adam Hunter (ca. 1811-1879) immigrated from Ayr, Scotland to Macoupin County, Illinois in 1843. Three sons, Robert Dickie Hunter, William Hunter and David Hunter, moved to Missouri, Kansas, and Texas. This book " . . .was prompted by loss of the Hunter name among their descendants as only one son was born among them to die unmarried . . ." > > > Subjects: Hunter > Blair > Crosby > Goodman > McGown > McLean > Phelan > > > Copies > Call Number Location > 929.273 H916m JSMB FAMHIST Book > > > Format: Books/Monographs > Language: English > Publication: Fort Worth, Tex. : Fort Worth Genealogical Society, c1978 > Physical: x, 158 p. : facsims., geneal. table, map, ports. > > > Subject Class: 929.273 H916 > > > > © > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > Irish Proverb: A narrow neck keeps the bottle from being emptied in one swig. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== Irish Proverb: An old broom knows the dirty corners best. ============================== Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

Could please tell me where to find the LDS website. I haven't heard of the website. Jann Whalen Parks Please check Remus Free Summer Music Program at www.remusmusic.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Womack" <ken-womack@worldnet.att.net> To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 7:06 PM Subject: [Phelan] Phelan Book > > > I found mention of this book on the LDS website. Anybody know anything about it?? Glenda > > > Title: From Ayr to Thurber : three Hunter brothers and the winning of the west > Stmnt.Resp.: compiled by William Hunter McLean > Authors: McLean, William Hunter , 1909- (Main Author) > > Notes: Includes index. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Includes Blair, Crosby, Goodman, McGown, McLean, Phelan and related families. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Adam Hunter (ca. 1811-1879) immigrated from Ayr, Scotland to Macoupin County, Illinois in 1843. Three sons, Robert Dickie Hunter, William Hunter and David Hunter, moved to Missouri, Kansas, and Texas. This book " . . .was prompted by loss of the Hunter name among their descendants as only one son was born among them to die unmarried . . ." > > > Subjects: Hunter > Blair > Crosby > Goodman > McGown > McLean > Phelan > > > Copies > Call Number Location > 929.273 H916m JSMB FAMHIST Book > > > Format: Books/Monographs > Language: English > Publication: Fort Worth, Tex. : Fort Worth Genealogical Society, c1978 > Physical: x, 158 p. : facsims., geneal. table, map, ports. > > > Subject Class: 929.273 H916 > > > > © > > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > Irish Proverb: A narrow neck keeps the bottle from being emptied in one swig. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

I have census info. for ELLEN PHEALON B 1858 IRE, head of house, with ANDREW B 1873, THERESA B 1875 all born IRE. Can send to anyone that wants it. It's from Kane County, Illinois. Dawn

I found mention of this book on the LDS website. Anybody know anything about it?? Glenda Title: From Ayr to Thurber : three Hunter brothers and the winning of the west Stmnt.Resp.: compiled by William Hunter McLean Authors: McLean, William Hunter , 1909- (Main Author) Notes: Includes index. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Includes Blair, Crosby, Goodman, McGown, McLean, Phelan and related families. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adam Hunter (ca. 1811-1879) immigrated from Ayr, Scotland to Macoupin County, Illinois in 1843. Three sons, Robert Dickie Hunter, William Hunter and David Hunter, moved to Missouri, Kansas, and Texas. This book " . . .was prompted by loss of the Hunter name among their descendants as only one son was born among them to die unmarried . . ." Subjects: Hunter Blair Crosby Goodman McGown McLean Phelan Copies Call Number Location 929.273 H916m JSMB FAMHIST Book Format: Books/Monographs Language: English Publication: Fort Worth, Tex. : Fort Worth Genealogical Society, c1978 Physical: x, 158 p. : facsims., geneal. table, map, ports. Subject Class: 929.273 H916 ©

Benton County Arkansas Cemetery Index LAST NAME FIRSTNAME BIRT DEAT PLOT CEMETERY PHELAN AUDRA L. 1909 1965 WEDDINGTON PHELAN C. LOYD 1900 1974 WEDDINGTON PHELAN C.C. 1895 1963 170 WESTSIDE ROGERS PHELAN FANNIE A. 1901 1965 170 WESTSIDE ROGERS PHELAN HERMAN R. 1897 1975 94 WESTSIDE ROGERS PHELAN JOHN W. 1857 1946 PLEASANT GROVE PHELAN J.H. N/D N/D 162 ROGERS ROGERS PHELAN LOLA JUNE 1932 1933 WEDDINGTON PHELAN LULA MAY 1932 1933 WEDDINGTON PHELAN MILDRED L. 1912 1993 94 WESTSIDE ROGERS PHELAN OCA E. 1897 1959 WEDDINGTON PHELAN SARAH,C 1869 1947 PLEASANT GROVE PHELAN VOICE L. 1905 1955 WEDDINGTON

Passengers by the Ship SHAMROCK, McKeon Master, from Dublin to New York, 6 July, 1811. Thomas Phelan Kilkenny

List of Soldiers and Orphans who have entered the Soldiers Orphans Home, at Davenport Iowa up to the 1st of Jany 1867 Reported by Maj. M.B. Cochran (late Surg. USA) Supt. Note: the home was established in Oct. 1864 Format is as follows: Name of Soldier-Regiment-Home-Death Info Child Age Phelan,James - Co K,1st IA Cavalry - Jones Co - Died at Little Rock Phelan,Sarah ?

List of Soldiers and Orphans who have entered the Soldiers Orphans Home, at Davenport Iowa up to the 1st of Jany 1867 Reported by Maj. M.B. Cochran (late Surg. USA) Supt. Note: the home was established in Oct. 1864 Format is as follows: Name of Soldier-Regiment-Home-Death Info Child Age Phelan,James - Co K,1st IA Cavalry - Jones Co - Died at Little Rock Phelan,Sarah ?

I took this off the METISGEN-L@rootsweb.com mailing list. I'm just passing it on FYI only. Glenda > The file you sent me on the Campbells is not the Northwest Company bunch. > Like the McGillises, my family were loyalists who settled in eastern > Ontario circa 1784. My great great grandfather, John Duncan, was born in > Schoharie, New York in 1773 and became a clerk in the NW > Co. sometime in the late 1790s. He was given a partnership in 1803 at the > first annual meeting held at the newly-built Fort William. For most of his > career he was in charge of the English River (now Churchill River) district > in northern Saskatchewan. The Hudson Bay Company arrested him for his > activites in support of the Seven Oaks affair and he was not made a factor > when the two companies merged in 1821. He died at our old family home, > Inverardine, in 1835 after marrying Eliza McDonald the eldest daughter of > John McDonald of Gart and Nancy Small (who herself was the daughter of > Patrick Small [McDonald's cousin] and an unknown native woman. I hope that > this information is of interest to you. > > At 08:11 PM 7/20/01 -0700, you wrote: > >http://www.usinternet.com/users/dfnels/campbell.htm Archibald "John" > >Campbell: (1775-1808) > > & && Nancy (1790's-1887; m.John Palmer Bourke). > > Archabald had been trading since 1792 and two years later is trading > >out of the "Little Rapids" with the Wahpetons. >From 1800-06 he is a trader > >for the Machinac Co. but became an independent trader in 1806. In December > >of 1807 he is appointed the U.S. Indian Sub-Agent at Prairie du Chien, > >through the recommendation of Gov.Meriwether Lewis and the next year > >(summer 1808) he was killed in a duel with trader Redford Crawford, > >Campbell's former trading associate, Robert Dickson acting as Redford's > >second. John Campbell: (abt.1790-?) > > &&& Marie-Therese Bondy). Their children were: John (b.abt.1830; > >m.Sophie PHALEN), Jeremiah (b.abt.1834), > >& David (b.abt.1839). Colin Campbell: > > &&&&& visiting Ojibwe. By 1855 he is near the mouth of the Platte > >River. Duncan Campbell: (bef.1802-?) > > &&&& Alexander Faribault. Ducan was back in 1838 where the Iowa > >Territory Census taker found him living in Clayton Co., north of the Root > >River. Scott Campbell: (1790's-1851) > > & & Mathias S. > > &&& published though the efforts of fellow missionary, Stephen R. > >Riggs. In 1837, Scott was living at the St.Peters settlement, near the > >mouth of the Minnesota River, going to Washington D.C. as the Dakota > >interpreter for a treaty. In 1843 he bought a claim from Denis Cherrier for > >$300. which he sold to William Hartshorn in 1848. Pond wrote of Scott, > >"Mr.Campbell was, in his general deportment, very mild, quiet and > >gentlemanly, always ready to smoke or chat with white men or Indians, > >carefully avoiding all harsh language and disagreeable topics; but he had a > >fiery temper which sometimes broke through the smooth external covering in > >such ebullitions of passion as we might expect from one in whom were > >mingled the Scotch and Dakota blood. He was skillful as an interpreter, and > >perhaps more skillful as a mis-interpreter...He told what he thought the > >speaker should have said rather that what he did say, and frequently a good > >understanding seemed to have been restored, simply because there had been > >no understanding at all."

Researching family members of the Group who owned the Phelan Paint Co. in St. Louis, MO. I was in an antique store in Tucson, AZ and purchased an old wooden shipping box with the company's name painted on the sides. Carol Phelan

I don't normally post anything to this list that's not Phelan or informational related but I took this off another list as it spoke to me. BUT I'm going to consider this as Information and send it on - LOL. Glenda The Story Tellers..... We are the chosen. My feelings are in each family there is one who seems called to find the ancestors. To put flesh on their bones and make them live again, to tell the family story and to feel that somehow they know and approve. To me, doing genealogy is not a cold gathering of facts but, instead, breathing life into all who have gone before. We are the story tellers of the tribe. All tribes have one. We have been called, as it were, by our genes. Those who have gone before cry out to us: Tell our story. So, we do. In finding them, we somehow find ourselves. How many graves have I stood before now and cried? I have lost count. How many times have I told the ancestors you have a wonderful family you would be proud of us? How many times have I walked up to a grave and felt somehow there was love there for me? I cannot say. It goes beyond just documenting facts. It goes to who am I and why do I do the things I do? It goes to seeing a cemetery about to be lost forever to weeds and indifference and saying I can't let this happen. The bones here are bones of my bone and flesh of my flesh. It goes to doing something about it. It goes to pride in what our ancestors were able to accomplish. How they contributed to what we are today. It goes to respecting their hardships and losses, their never giving in or giving up, their resoluteness to go on and build a life for their family. It goes to deep pride that they fought to make and keep us a Nation. It goes to a deep and immense understanding that they were doing it for us. That we might be born who we are. That we might remember them. So we do. With love and caring and scribing each fact of their existence, because we are them and they are us. So, as a scribe called, I tell the story of my family. It is up to that one called in the next generation to answer the call and take their place in the long line of family storytellers. That, is why I do my family genealogy, and that is what calls those young and old to step up and put flesh on the bones. ( Unknown Author )

Hi folks! I posted a message in June tracing my ggrandfather John T. Phalan(Phelan) in Rome, New York. His father, James, died in Ireland abt. 1867. According to family anecdotes, James had many brothers and sisters, some who came to America. I am particularly interested in Edwin Phelan and his children, who included: Mary Phelan, (born IRL) who married a Mr. Chase and moved to Chicago (Chase originally from Chases Lake, NY?) Michael Phelan, born abt. 1835 (IRL) and lived in Lowville NY abt. 1880's (he gave my ggrandfather John T. a roof over his head until he married 2 years later). Thomas Phelan, born abt. Dec 1831 (IRL), lived in Cortland NY, several children, one an ALDERMAN in NEW YORK CITY(?) John Phelan, born abt. 1837 (IRL), who took an ASSUMED NAME (John may have been the assumed name?) and moved WEST. He allegedly had four children, some of whom were civil engineers, one female who was a teacher. Any of these folks sound familiar to you? Could be another eastern connection to the westward migration of Phelans. Sincerely, Mary A. Phalan phalanm@library.phila.gov

Glenda, I'm in St. Louis... Going on a fishing trip.. Will answer more when I return in a couple of days... Brenda

If you haven't checked lately, you might want to check out all of Rootsweb's new surname and location mailing lists. They have been adding 10 to 12 a week for ages now. A lot of new Australia mailing lists. Tons and tons of unusual surnames have been added. This started happening when Ancestry.com bought out Rootsweb. A lot of the lists are still without a listmanager and if you'd want to volunteer to manage one that's up for adoption go to http://resources.rootsweb.com/adopt/ . If you're interested in a surname that still doesn't have a mailing list, you can request one from the same address. There use to be a minimal charge to request a mailing list but it's all free now, they're just happy to have someone manage it, which by-the-way is very easy to do. To check out all mailing lists, not just rootsweb, go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html . You can subscribe to his mailing list from that site which will let you know anytime new lists are added. Go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~websites/ for all Rootsweb's websites for research info. http://www.rootsweb.com/ has all services available at Rootsweb, i.e.. Free lookups, books available on line, etc. Sorry, I realize this sounds like an advertisement for Rootsweb but I didn't mean for it to be, only informational! Glenda (listmanager)

This is the 2nd time this book has been mentioned on this list but the last I heard this book is out of print. Unfortunately my library doesn't have a copy. Where are you located? I think at one time there was a descendant of this family one line with us but don't know about now. One of the genealogy for profit sites in the last few days had a database for St. Louis Deaths from 1850 to 1908. There were 83 hits for Phelan and 8 Whelans.. I'll be glad to do lookup if anyone wants to send me a first name. It gives the date of death, birthplace and cemetery (not for all but most) along with the volume and page #. It has an Edward PHELAN who died 16 Jan 1854, born Ireland, buried Rock Spring (Vol. C, pg 114) Several other Edwards were born in St. Louis. There was one Cornelius died 11 May 1885, Vol 17, pg 52 but no indication where born or married. There was a Mary Francis Phelan, died 7 Dec 1881, born St. Louis, buried Calvary Cememter, Vol 12, pg 421. Sounds like this is the right Cornelius. There was a Mary Phelan died 6 July 1896 also buried in Calvery, Volume 33, pg 262 but it doesn't say where she was born. There was a John F. died 2 Dec 1885, Vol. 17, pg 293 but no birth or cemetery info. There was no Edmund shown. Glenda > I went to our county library today and found (just as I was leaving, of > course) a published genealogy on a Phelan family.The first page gives Patrick > PHELAN, b. m. and d. in Ireland. Married Mary LOUGLHIN, also b. and d. > Ireland. Their children were: i. Edmund (mine!?!?) ii.Michael, iii. > Cornelius bap. 1810 in Ireland, iv. Ellen bap. 1812, v. Thomas bap. 1814, > vi.Elizabeth, bap. 1816, vii. Nil, bap. 1818, viii. Mary, bap. 1820, ix. > Margaret, bap. 1823, and x. Pierce, bap. 1825 = all in Ireland. The author > states that Cornelius is the only known ancestor to immigrate to the U.S., > but an Edmund Phelan was in NC in 1790. Nothing was known of the two > first-born children, but there is much on Cornelius' descendants. A letter > to the author written in 1919 states "the oldest son in the family was Edmund > and Cornelius was the third." > "This family lived at Mullinhone, Co. Tipperary, Ireland. The town is > situated in the Barony of Slivardagh and is in the civil parish of Modeshil, > the Union of Callan and ecclesiastically, in the Catholic parish of > Mullinahone, the Diocese of Cashel." > The eight bapitsims were registered there. > > "A 1828 Parish Tithe Book lists a Michael Phelan, son of Patrick Phelan." > > Perhaps Michael and Edmund were by a first marriage and in another county or > town? Or maybe Patrick and Mary were living in another area when the first > two children were born. > > Apparently Cornelius ended up in St. Louis. He m. Mary Frances MAHER 2 Mar > 1840 in Callan, Ire. Thier children: i. Mary Ann b. 1841 in Ireland, ii. > Thomas A. b. 1845 in St. Louis, iii. Ellen b. c1845 St. Louis, iv. John b. > c1847 St. Louis, v. William b.1848 St. Louis, vi. Margaret b. c1849 St. Louis > , vii. Michael Joseph b. c1856 St. Louis, viii. James P. b. c1856 St. Louis, > ix. John Francis b.1859 St. Louis, x. Edward C. b. 1862 St. Louis. > > For those who might like to try to find this book: > Phelan, Malone, Kevill, Stutz & Klaes Fimilies by John T. Phelan. Gateway > Press, Inc. Baltimore, 1985. Copyright John T. Phelan, 6312 24th Stree > North, Arlington, VA 22207. > > Gateway Press, Inc.1101 N. Calvert Street, Baltimore, MC 21202. > > All for now, > Brenda

My Phelan's came across prior to 1850 and ended up in Kane County Illinois. They spelled it PHEALAN. In a few of the probates, they note that WHELAN's were owed money. And, of course, Phelan was interchanged with PHALEN too. Still looking for the wife's maiden name & parents name's of ROBERT PHEALAN/PHELAN born IRE. Married Mary Unknown who died in May 16th, 1865 in Kane County Illinois. Their son PATRICK PHELAN was born in 1830 in Ireland. He married BRIDGETT Unknown also born in IRE. Thought I had found information out about PATRICK only to find out it seems like every PATRICK PHELAN married someone named BRIDGETT. Dawn

My name is Whalen. I wonder if the county Waterford's Phelan's are mine. Is there a place to look for the Whalen's Jann Whalen Parks Please check Remus Free Summer Music Program at www.remusmusic.org ----- Original Message ----- From: <Kleager1@aol.com> To: <PHELAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 3:12 PM Subject: [Phelan] Variant spellings of Phelan and Irish Phelan Population > Dear Glenda, > > Faoláin is not an unusual spelling of Phelan at all. In fact it was the > original spelling of the name in Ireland. > > I went to an Irish Special Interest Group meeting of our local genealogical > society last night... 40 present. One of the web sites mentioned was > Ireland.com/ancestor/surname. > > It gives the number of households in each county in Ireland with the surname > search - from Griffith's Valuation (1848-1864). For Phelan, there were 469 > in Kilkenny, 254 in Laois, 234 in Waterford, and 158 in Tipperary. The other > counties had fewer than 15. The site also gives a history of the surname, the > coat of arms and other info. Glenda, your Whelan name history is given with > the Phelan, too. Apparently there were only three Whelans listed in > Griffith's. > > Did you mention the web site "theshipslist.com" a couple of weeks ago? It's > a good one, too. My problem is that my earliest Phelan was already here in > 1790, so none of these are much help. The surname population is a possible > resource... > > Brenda > > > ==== PHELAN Mailing List ==== > Irish Proverb: A trout in the pot is better than a salmon in the sea. > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

I am still searching for the siblings of my great grandfather, Philip Phalen (b. 1834 in Ireland), who was the son of Michael Phelan and Catherine Walsh -- married in Kilkenny City in 1823. Philip left Ireland and arrived by ship in Philadelphia in July 1850 and then went on to the Gold Rush in California. He somehow ended up in Newburgh, Ontario, Canada around 1856/57 and married Hannah Isabella Miller in 1859. They had three children: Agnes, William (my grandfather) and Jennie. He was a blacksmith and lived the rest of his life in that town. In an old family scrapbook, I found an obituary for Mason Phelan (a native of Picton, Ontario -- which is near Newburgh) who died in Fields, Louisiana at the age of 73 years. The date he died was July 21 but no year was mentioned!! I think that he is somehow related to my Philip. If anyone on the list can help me, I would sure appreciate hearing from you. Donna (Phalen) Lien Lethbridge, AB Canada