Just some more............ Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 23:59:30 +1000 (EST) From: Joan Fawcett <[email protected]> Subject: Irish names & occupations..1831 1831.. Co Tipperary.. firstname..surname..occupation..place..parish..baroney.. William PHELAN - SOlicitor..Rock ABbey,Hore ABbey, Middlethird ----------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 16:11:22 -0500 (CDT) From: [email protected] (Maura Petzolt) Subject: excerpts from Passenger lists into NY I am going to post some people I found on film # 1027356 NY Arrivals 29 June- 7 Aug 1885 I only noted surnames I was searching, or remembered someone else was searching, or were interesting for some reason. Eturia from Liverpool +Queenstown 29 June ---------------------------------------------------------- Jnw. P. McCloskey 40 Priest Dublin Math. E. Stanton 38 Priest Clonmel Patrick Phelan 44 Priest Kilkenny Thomas Mullen (sp?) 60 Bishop Dublin * I am interested in this as a Patrick Phelan is often the priest of note in my Waterford Heritage Centre report, and wonder if its the same one? Looks like a group of priests being transferred to US?
Here's some links if you believe that your ancestors came from Ireland to Canada before coming to USA................ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 03:35:52 -0600 From: matt emerson <[email protected]> Subject: Irish in Canada The URL below will give you links to a number of Canadian sites including 5000 settlers from Wexford/Wicklow; the Peter Robinson Settlers; New Brunswick, St. Johns and PEI. Large numbers of Irish went to Canada because the fare was cheaper. Gross Ille was a quarantine station where many Irish immigrants died of ships fever, starvation, and lack of clothing on the voyages. A lot of the Irish didnt want to stay in Canada because of British rule there and moved on the US as soon as they were able, but many settled in Canada on a permanent basis. St. Johns, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island, the Chateauguay River valley of Quebec, and many localities in Ontario had Irish settlers. If anyone on the list had ancestors in the Chateauguay Valley (once Beauharnois, now Huntingdon County) Quebec, please write to me. A number of Irish went to Canada with the British Army in the 1795-1815 era; they were encouraged to settle along the border and be ready to fight for England in the event of border disputes with the US. Canadian Irish links from the Irish Genealogical Society International: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/index7.htm Some free searchables, some commercial: Canadian http://www.ingeneas.com/ Canada GenWeb Project http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6625/cngenweb.html some ship's lists to Canada http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6625/cngenweb.html Journal On-L. gene. article on Canada http://www.onlinegenealogy.com/current/injun98.htm Quebec Family History Society http://www.cam.org/~qfhs/index.html Chris
Here's a couple good sources of information ............... Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 22:08:17 -0700 From: Joan Fawcett <[email protected]> Subject: Shipping Lists from Ireland - to USA Found the following site whilst searching for a particular surname.. it has shipping lists to USA in the late 40s and early 50s.. dont forget to use your *find* button on the toolbox at the top of your page if you want to enter a particular name... http://vzone.virgin.net/alan.tupman/sites/irp5.htm Jenny Fawcett ______________________________ Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 18:47:46 -0700 From: "Carol Queen" <[email protected]> Subject: Irish Police Force Here is a website that has information on the Irish Garde/Police Force http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7900/ **************************************************************************** TO FIND WHAT COUNTY YOUR FAMILY CAME FROM IN IRELAND GO TO: http://www.goireland.com/Genealogy Researching the following names: Atwood, Allen, Arnold, Bera,Bivins, Cannon, Carr, Cunningham, Faughn, Hyde, Lenderman, McMenamin, McMonigle, McQueen, O'Donnell, Percosky, Queen, Swink, Walls Check out these surnames on my website: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/6587 Couple more to go............ Good luck Chris
Once again.....this is response posted to last email Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 15:14:37 -0500 (CDT) From: [email protected] (Maura Petzolt) Subject: Re: Searching for Power and Phelan An excellent microfilm to order thru your local FHC and search if you are searching for Power, Phelan and Walsh also in this area is # 0100158 which includes a typed transcript of some records from St. Marys Clonmel. There are many many many records in this film and worth the searching.... Maura [email protected] More coming................... Chris
Hello Group, Found these postings on the Shamrock Mailing List. Hope they help someone out there........... Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:32:38 -0300 From: "mpower" <[email protected]> Subject: Searching for Power and Phelan Hi..I am new to this group and do not have a lot of information on the people that I am researching. I am looking to establish an Irish connection for my great grandparents, John Power and Roseann Phelan. John was born about 1815 and Roseann was born in 1823. They spent most, if not all of their lives in St. Marys Newfoundland. They or their parents were born in or around Waterford Ireland. Their children Michael, James, John, Margaret and Johanna were all born in the St. Marys area of Newfoundland in the 1840s/50s. I beleive Johns father was also called John and it is likely that it was he who immigrated to Newfoundland around 1800 +/- Headstones of the early Irish in St. Marys would indicate that many of them came from the Waterford/Kilmacthomas/Dungarvin area. Any information/suggestions would be appreaciated. Mike Power ..............end........... More to come, Chris
Hello to all those fellow Phelan chasers ! Regarding Phelans from Clonmel, Tipperary, Ireland I have: Michael PHELAN (Storekeeper and/or Linen Draper) - B,D,M details unknown married Johanna KELLY - details of Johanna and their marriage unknown. They produced two daughters (other siblings unknown): Anastatia Phelan - Bapt.19 Jun 1811 St. Mary's, Clonmel, Tipperary Died: 21 Dec 1876 Cootamundra, NSW, Aust. Mary Phelan - born around 1820 - details unknown Died: 1 Nov 1881 Cootamundra, NSW, Aust. Mary, Anastatia & family (husband John BYRNE & sons William and Michael Byrne) sailed "Agricola", arriving 1841 Melbourne, Vic. Aust. Mary Phelan Marriage 1 : 1841 Melbourne to William BALL - B:?; D:? Marriage 2 : 1874 to Lucius FORSYTH - B:1812 Liverpool, Eng. D:1881 Cootamundra Anastatia Phelan Marriage 1 : to John BYRNE in Ireland, date & place unknown. Marriage 2 : to John Charles RYALS - B:1802 Co. Offaly, Ire. D:1893 Cootamundra I would love to 'connect' with other folks out there who are searching the same line. Happy Hunting Kay Clark - forever rellie searching BALL; FORSYTH; GILMOUR; HARBUTT MANNING; PHELAN; RYALS; TWIST E-mail: [email protected]
Eva, please see me tree on FTM. Have lots of Phelans in ILL. Dawn
I got this from a non-Phelan subscriber and thought I would pass it on. My, aren't people nice!! If anyone can connect, we all need to thank him. Hi Glenda: I'm not on your list, but I found this and thought someone might be able to use it. From "History of Alabama", by T.M. Owns, pub 1921. "Phelan, Charles, circuit judge, 1868. "Phelan, Ellis, lawyer, secretary of State, was born August 11, 1843, in Marion, and died August 5, 1897, in Waterbury, Conn; son of Judge John D. and Mary Anne (Harris) Phelan (q.v.). He was educated in the schools of his community and graduated from the University of Alabama. He entered the Confederate army, as a captain in the 45th regiment Alabama volunteers; and was major when wounded in the battle of Atlanta. After the close of the war he studied law and was admitted to practice. During the administration of Gov. Edward O'Neal, he was secretary of State, for two terms. He removed to Birmingham and was prominent in the early development of that city. He was clerk of the house of representatives of Alabama, 1870-1877. About 1880, he removed to Waterbury, Conn., where he was elected circuit judge, which position he resigned to resume the practice of law. He was a democrat; and an Episcoplalian. Married: (1) in 1870, to Amy Hawkins, of Elyron; (2) in 1884 to Mary Frisbil of Waterbury. Last residence: Waterbury, Conn." "Phelan, James, lawyer, State and Confederate States Senator, was born October 11, 1821, in Huntsville, and died May 17, 1872....." ---Sorry ran over to next page which I did not copy. I have no other Phelan information. Dennis West in Knoxville, TN.
Greetings to one and all, Our James Phelan was born in April 1856 somewhere in Ireland. He married Mary Carrolton Bowe, widow of Thomas Bowe, around 1880. James and Mary emigrated with her 10 year old daughter, Catherine, in 1882 to the United States. They lived in Buffalo Ny for a short time and finally settled in Youngstown, Ohio. James was a laborer for the Consolidated Company in Youngstown and was killed in a job related accident on June 15th, 1908. He is buried in Calvary Cemetery, Youngstown. According to the 1900 census, Mary had given birth to six children and only one lived to adulthood which was Catherine Bowe. This is the only information that I have on him. Does this ring any bells with anyone out there? Sincerely, Marie Scott
Eva, I have a James Monroe Phelan b. 1824 in Bledsoe Co., TN but married to a Rachael Brown in 1848 in Union co., IL. which is in the Southern tip of Illinois. Looks like Henry Co is northwest and close to Iowa. What year was your James born? Any relatives come with him from Ireland? Thanks, Glenda -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, September 05, 1998 1:16 PM Subject: [PHELAN-L] Phelan Genealogy >I have in my possession a genealogy starting with Ruth Clement married to >James Phelan. James was born in Ireland and died in Illinois. Eventually >they and there children all settled in and around Henry Co., IL.. I am >descended from one of their children. If anyone has IL Phelans please feel >free to contact me. > >Good luck > >EVA >[email protected] > >
I forgot. I also have several pictures of these Phelans that I am willing to share. Remember they are Phelan in Henry Co., IL and the pictures start at about 1860. Or soon after cameras were invented. EVA
I have in my possession a genealogy starting with Ruth Clement married to James Phelan. James was born in Ireland and died in Illinois. Eventually they and there children all settled in and around Henry Co., IL.. I am descended from one of their children. If anyone has IL Phelans please feel free to contact me. Good luck EVA [email protected]
Well, list, this double message problem is not just our problem. According to messages on my Newbie-Listowner's list, other people are having the same problem in the mail mode only and it is intermittent. No one is saying what the problem is yet, but hopefully it's being worked on as I haven't heard anything from rootsweb who is the server for these lists. SO ...... my suggestion is to post away. If you're a subscriber who HATES double message, you may want to think about unsubscrbing in the mail mode and then subscribing in the digest mode until this gets cleared up. Or if you're like me, I'm going to wait it out and see what happens. It usually will take care of itself - now you understand I'm no expect, but I think it's the way you hold your tongue that day - ha. We are growing, growing, growing. Thank you all very much - I'm so proud of all of us and let's keep posting and trying to connect. I promise I won't be as verbose as we go along as I am now but rootsweb suggests that we keep up as much posting as possible the first few weeks the list is up to keep new subscribers coming on list at least interested and know we're alive. So the more you guys post, the less you'll hear from me. hint,hint, hint..... Thanks, Glenda
Hi, Phelan cousins! This is GREAT. It's so encouraging to be on something like this right from the start! I am looking for one of my great-great-grandfathers. His name was Martin Phelan. I have no idea where in Ireland he was born. He married in Stamford, Ct. in 1854 and died July 21, 1893. His death certificate lists his parents as "Michael" and "Mary" but no further information is given. Now here's where it gets interesting. I'm pretty sure, based on some research I did on a quasi-family legend, that Martin had a brother named James, who married a woman named Mary Holland. They had a daughter named Mary Phelan, who was born March 25, 1865 in Queens County, Ireland. She also came to the U.S. and married a James Broderick in Stamford, Ct. in 1891. This information naturally led me to think that perhaps Martin Phelan was also from Queens County, but I had a basic search done in Queens and none of these names turned up. Can anybody help? Special note to J.R. Lally: I'm also searching for Lally! Specifically, a Bridget Lally born in Ireland whose father was Thomas Lally, and that's all I know. Bridget emigrated to the U.S. and married Thomas Glynn in Stamford, Ct. in 1866. Any bells going off? Thanks, Glenda, for bringing us together! Lois Jamieson
Gena, I'm going to send this note through the list. When you receive, get back with me so I'll know for sure you're receiving your mail. Your e-mail address is showing up on my subscribers so to me looks as if you're subscribed properly. Thanks, Glenda -----Original Message----- From: JRLally <[email protected]> To: Kenneth Womack <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, September 05, 1998 12:26 AM Subject: Re: Welcome >Hi, > >Just curious, while I recieved a "Welcome" note, a copy of my submission >did not come back to me. Is that usual, or unususal? > > Gena Lally > > >At 12:02 AM 9/4/98 -0400, you wrote: >>Welcome to list. FIRST chance you get, let list at [email protected] >>know names and time frame >>you're searching. We just started list this past Friday so everyone is new >>to list. Last time I checked we were 37 subscribed and climbing. >> >>If you're currently corresponding with anyone regarding the Phelan surname, >>please let them know of our mailing list. >> >>Any problems, please let me know. Any questions, perhaps the list can help >>or I'll find out for you some way. Again, thanks for joining us. >> >>See ya on the list. >>Glenda Womack >>Listowner >>-----Original Message >>-----Original Message----- >>From: JRLally <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>Date: Friday, September 04, 1998 12:55 AM >> >> >>>subscribe >>> >> >> >> > >
hi! Just joined this list....have a couple of Phelan's in my husband's chart in Brooklyn, NY.... 1880 NY census shows Michael Dooley and Mary Phalen (my husband's gg-gmother) (born Ireland abt 1840) with the following children: Anna Dooley, Mary, Bridget Theresa, Margaret, Elizabeth, Helen.... I believe that Michael Dooley and Mary Phalen were in NY from at least 1867, as their oldest daughter is noted as born in NY in that year.... the next listing in the census (neighbors-relatives?) are Phalen, James w m 41 occ. laborer born Ireland Anna wife, 36 occ: housekeeper b. Ireland Mary daughter, 13, born NY Anna daughter, 11, born NY James, son, 6 , born NY John, son, 3 , born NY Thomas, son, 1 , born NY Steniware (sp?) Henry, boarder, 21 occ: dentist, born NY is anyone researching Phalen in Brooklyn during this period? thanks! Charna
Answered my own question, as I got my own message twice. ha Evidently, the mail mode list is having a problem. I've sent in error problem to Rootsweb and I won't send anymore messages to the list until I think it has been corrected. I rather shoot myself than say this BUT.........it might be a good idea for all subscribers to hold off posting on list until we see if we can't get this problem corrected because nobody hates double messages more than me. Sorry and thanks for patience. I'll let y'all know when I know. Thanks, Glenda -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Womack <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, September 04, 1998 9:55 PM Subject: [PHELAN-L] Double messages >Anyone on list besides Karen Anne and Frankie getting double messages, >please let me know and to save me some time, whether you're in the mail or >digest mode. > >Thanks, Glenda > > > > >
Anyone on list besides Karen Anne and Frankie getting double messages, please let me know and to save me some time, whether you're in the mail or digest mode. Thanks, Glenda
Anyone on list besides Karen Anne and Frankie getting double messages, please let me know and to save me some time, whether you're in the mail or digest mode. Thanks, Glenda
OK, this is everything I know about my Phelan's--sorry it's so long. (1) 1 (unknown first name) Phelan Children: Matthew Catherine (~1856-) (2) 1.1 Matthew Phelan Spouse: Margaret Sullivan Marr: 1892 Children: Mary Walter Ed Jo Rene (3) 1.1.1 Mary Phelan (3) 1.1.2 Walter Phelan (3) 1.1.3 Ed Phelan (3) 1.1.4 Jo Phelan (3) 1.1.5 Rene Phelan (2) 1.2a Catherine Phelan Birth: abt 1856 Census: ³a 45-year old housekeeper' in Aglish South townland² [from 1901 census] Greg Fewer says name is Catherine. Aunt Helen¹s notes say Mary. Spouse: Richard Fewer Birth: abt 1859, Aglish, Kilkenny, Ireland lived on a poor farm in Kilkenny, and had 13 children (from letter to Helen Maselli from Mary¹ [Phelan]) Marr: 2 Feb 1871 Children: William (1872-) Thomas (1874-) Walter (1876-<1947) Alice Mary (1878-) Ellen (1880-) Margaret (1883-) Edward/Edmund Patrick (1884-1947) Bridget (~1888-) Mary (1890-) Joe (Josephine?) (~1894-) Pat (~1896-) (3) 1.2a.1 William Fewer Birth: 1872 (3) 1.2a.2 Thomas Fewer Birth: 1874 not actually adopted, but came to US to live with Uncle Matthew Phelan (3) 1.2a.3 Walter Fewer Birth: 1876 Death: bef Feb 1947, age: 71 (3) 1.2a.4 Alice Mary Fewer Birth: 1878 (3) 1.2a.5 Ellen Fewer Birth: 1880 not actually adopted, but came to US to live with Uncle Matthew Phelan Spouse: Philip Murphy (3) 1.2a.6 Margaret Fewer Birth: 1883 not actually adopted, but came to US to live with Uncle Matthew Phelan Spouse: Seery (3) 1.2a.7 Edward/Edmund Patrick Fewer Sr. Birth: 1884 Death: 1 Feb 1947, San Francisco, San Francisco, CA, age: 63 Census: ³Edmund² resident at home in 1901, agricultural labourer not actually adopted, but came to US to live with Uncle Matthew Phelan Spouse: May Anne Devine Birth: 13 Aug 1882, Kerry, Ireland Death: 1 Mar 1984, Santa Clara, Santa Clara, CA, age: 101 Father: Brian (Or Bernard) Devine (-1916) Mother: Catherine Savage Birth & Baptismal Certificate Parish of Ballymacelligott, Diocese of Kerry, St. Brendan¹s Ballymacelligott by Rev. D. McCarthy Parents Bernard Devane, Catherine Savage Sponsors Patrick Devane, Johanna Scanlon Signed M. O¹Donoghue, 23 Sep 1965, Ballymacelligott "May" came here from Ireland 4/17/1902 Marr: 7 Nov 1907 Children: Edward Patrick (1908-) Brian Richard (1911-) Robert Beau (1913-) Gertrude May (1915-1971) Helen (1921-) (3) 1.2a.8 Bridget Fewer Birth: abt 1888 Alias: Kitty not actually adopted, but came to US to live with Uncle Matthew Phelan Census: ³age 13 in 1901 and at school² Spouse: Kelly (3) 1.2a.9 Mary Fewer Birth: 1890 Census: ³at school in 1901² (3) 1.2a.10 Joe (Josephine?) Fewer Birth: abt 1894 Census: ³Joe-age 7 in 1901² (3) 1.2a.11 Pat Fewer Birth: abt 1896 Census: Age 5 in 1901 Jo Dorais [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] ______________________________________________ ~~the gene pool could use a little chlorine~~ http://www.angelfire.com/ct/thegriff/ http://members.xoom.com/maeve/ http://members.theglobe.com/terencio/ http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1881/ http://members.tripod.com/~jaspertod/ http://www.crosswinds.net/cork/~calla