Hello Vivien, you are right, the historical situation in this very region is rather confusing. But we can simplify it, because you were asking for the origine of a marriage certificate dated 1921. Both Beecks belonged at that time to the Prussian Rheinprovinz or Rhineland. The Beeck near Düsseldorf is now-a-days as well as Ruhrort part of the city Duisburg which belongs itsself to the federal state (Bundesland) Nordrhein-Westfalen. Also Aaachen with the other Beeck is today part of Nordrhein-Westfalen. Thus you should consider both Beecks. Best regards Ernst. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rice-Witzerman <vmark@trump.net.au> To: <PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2000 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [PFALZ] Beeck - place name? > > the Webersik Geographical Lexikon of 1908 shows 2 Beecks: > > > > 1. Beeck, part of the town Ruhrort near Düsseldorf > > 2. Beeck, small village (455 inhabitants in 1908) in the Prussian Rhineland > > near Aachen. > > Thankyou very much for this information, Ernst. > I have now located them in my German Euro Atlas (I couldn't find > them before because they didn't appear in the index). > > I'm still rather confused over the political/historical > changes which happened in this part of Germany and I'd be > grateful for your knowledge in this area. > Would both the above have been considered part of the Rhineland > early this century or only the village near Aachen? > > With kind regards, > > Vivien Rice > Tasmania, Australia >