Just a short suggestion. If you are attempting to read a Latin phrase that was written by a German Doctor you might find that the Doctor used German Script in his penmanship. I have found this to be the case in some of the Catholic Church Records. I also ran into a similar situation when trying to read some 1800 census records. The census taker in one area always penned Missouri to look like Miffouri, this caused me some problems in trying to check out the spelling of surnames. You might also want to have an older priest, doctor or pharmacist look at it. My high school Latin is about as bad today as it was 50 years ago. If you want drop me a copy and I'll let a Doctor here take a look at it, he has offered this service to me in the past. <kimbuc@juno.com> Bill Buchholz For info on cemeteries, funeral homes etc. check: http://pages.prodigy.net/dave_lossos/stl/buchholz.htm Surnames: BECKMANN-BUCHHOLZ-BUCKHOLZ-BUCHOLZ-CASSIDY-DeLONJAY-NENTWIG-NEUTZLER-PONC OT-RENSING-STAUDER-STIEFFERMANN