W. Raymond Cummins wrote: > Thanks for the post about Kirchheimbolanden > > Where did you find the record of the birth of Johann Christoph Schacke on > Jun 8 1720 in Kirchheimbolanden? > Was it from the Catholic church book in Kirchheimbolanden? > It is an extracted IGI record found on FamilySearch.org and was from the Evangelisch Kirch Book. > If so then you have a similar situation to mine. > >From 1695-1725 I find Comens /Comen baptisms in the Catholic church in > Kirchheimbolanden > and in the Lutheran Churches in Morschheim, Orbis and Wendelsheim a few > miles away. > if a child was not expected to live long, it was oftern baptized in the nearest church. bob gillis

Hello Bob Gillis Thank you for your helpful response. I have recently learned that for specific periods in history laws have forced people to be married (by Episcopal priests in Ontario in early 1800s) or baptized (in Church of Ireland in Ireland in late 1800s) in specific churches no matter what (or in spite of) their chosen religion. I wonder if this were true in the Rheinland Pfalz. Did one have to practice the religion of the local ruler? It looks as if I need to learn more about the history of the area and to discern the precise locations of the very changeable boundaries between the areas controlled by dukes of different religions. W. Raymond Cummins Mississauga ON Canada cummins@utm.utoronto.ca -----Original Message----- From: pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bob gillis Sent: April 9, 2007 5:08 PM To: pfalz@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Catholic or Lutheran baptisms or RE: SCHACKE familiesin Pfalz W. Raymond Cummins wrote: > Thanks for the post about Kirchheimbolanden > > Where did you find the record of the birth of Johann Christoph Schacke on > Jun 8 1720 in Kirchheimbolanden? > Was it from the Catholic church book in Kirchheimbolanden? > It is an extracted IGI record found on FamilySearch.org and was from the Evangelisch Kirch Book. > If so then you have a similar situation to mine. > >From 1695-1725 I find Comens /Comen baptisms in the Catholic church in > Kirchheimbolanden > and in the Lutheran Churches in Morschheim, Orbis and Wendelsheim a few > miles away. > if a child was not expected to live long, it was oftern baptized in the nearest church. bob gillis ********* Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 05:07 PM 4/9/2007, you wrote: >W. Raymond Cummins wrote: > > Thanks for the post about Kirchheimbolanden > > > > Where did you find the record of the birth of Johann Christoph Schacke on > > Jun 8 1720 in Kirchheimbolanden? > > Was it from the Catholic church book in Kirchheimbolanden? > > > >It is an extracted IGI record found on FamilySearch.org and was from >the Evangelisch Kirch Book. The actual microfilms that the LDS have of the actual church records contain much more information than what can be found in the extracted IGI records especially if you know someone who can easily translate the early German writings. The fact that Jacob was listed as a master ropemaker and councilman are not included in the IGI records nor are the three persons who are listed as the godparents of Johann Christoph SCHACKE. The godparents for him were listed as: Johann Michael SCHWARTZ, citizen and butcher here: Johann Christoph GRANEISSEN, master of a farm estate: Maria Magdalena, wife of Johann Casimir EVERHARD, citizen and master baker here. I certainly appreciate all the comments and added information that is being provided. Lesley Shockey