I am researching the following family- 1 Peter HILGER, b.? Godramstein, Pfalz, Bayern, d. 12 Aug 1890 Elchesheim, Baden, m. Louisa SEIDENSPINNER, b.?, Godramstein, Pfalz d. 10 Jun 1873 Elchesheim, Baden 1.1 Reinhard, b. 1857 (poss Godramstein), d. 17 Sept 1905 Elchesheim, m. Hedwiga ALLARBARTH, b. 1857, d. 4 Aug 1915 Elch. 1.1.1 Wilhelm August, b. 1883 Elch 1.1.2 Windolin?, b. 5 Aug 1886 Elch, d. 17 Sept 1905 Elch 1.1.3 Elizabeth, b. 11 Jul 1889 Elch, d. still looking 1.2 Valerian HILGER, b. 8 Nov 1858 not sure, d. 27 Sept 1935 Elch m1. Maria Anna BAUMANN, b. 21 May 1863 Elch, d. 19 Dec 1888 Elch m2. Rosa HECK, b. 22 Jan 1862 Elch, d. 2 Apr 1943 Elch 1.2.1 Augusta, b. 27 Sept 1882 Elch, d. 15 Feb 1884 Elch 1.2.2 Elizabeth Amelia, b. 15 Feb 1884 Elch 1.2.3 Rosa, b. 21 Apr 1886 Elch 1.2.4 Albert, b. 27 May 1888 Elch, d. 13 Jul 1888 Elch 1.2.5 (can't read), b. 14 Nov 1894 Elch (child of Rosa HECK) 1.2.6 Gottleib, b. 12 mar 1891 Elch (child of Rosa) 1.2.7 Peter, b. 5 Nov 1895 Elch (child of Rosa) 1.2.8 Eugen, b. 3 FEb 1903 (child of Rosa) 1.3 August HILGER, b. 13 Dec 1859 Elch, d. 15 May 1922 Yonkers NY m. Marie Louise MODEN, b.c. Feb 1861, d. 23 Apr 1923 Yonkers 1.3.1 Carolina, b.c. Mar 1884 Yonkers, m. Henry CREDO 1.3.2 August P., b.c. Jun 1888 Yonkers, d. 4 FEb 1913 Yonkers 1.3.3 Marie Louise, b.c. Apr 1890 Yonk, d. 28 Jun 1959 Yonk (unmarr) 1.3.4 Emma, b.c. May 1892 Yonk, d. 13 Oct 1958 Yonk (unmarr) 1.3.5 C. Frederick Wm, b.c. Jan 1894 Yonk, d. 30 Aug 1923 Montgomery, NY, b. Emma Dorothy SIEBERT, one dau Dorothy M. m. ___ FORMAN 1.3.6 Leonie, b.c. May 1896 Yonk, m. ___ REICHENBACH 1.3.7 Harold, b. 21 Nov 1899 Yonk, d. Apr 1975 Yonk 1.4 Maria Francesca, b. 3 Jan 1862 Elch 1.5 Louisa HILGER, b. 21 Sept 1864 Elch, d. 20 mar 1952 Yonk m. 10 Sept 1892 NYC Leopold PFAFF, b. 8 Jul 1868 Dormettingen d. 25 Dec 1935 Yonkers 1.5.1 Barbara PFAFF 1.5.2 Louisa PFAFF 1.5.3 Otto August PFAFF (my husband's grandfather) 1.5.4 Leo Clemens PFAFF 1.6 Georg, b. 24 Dec 1869 Elch 1.7 Katharina, b. 9 Jun 1873 Elch, d. 28 Nov 1874 Elch There is another daughter, Elizabeth, who died 21 may 1888, not sure where she fits on the family chart. I also believe that Peter, husband of Louisa SEIDENSPINNER, had a brother named Georg. I'm hoping someone else is researching HILGER or SEIDENSPINNER in Godramstein. Nancy Pfaff Wallingford, CT