In a message dated 8/6/00 11:40:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, smada@webtv.net writes: << Is/Are the towns of Edenkoben, & Arzheim close to each other and if so is Baden Baden near these Pfalz Bayern. towns ? >> Arzheim is 6.2 miles SSW of Edenkoben. Baden is not within 30 miles per Shtetlseeker. Arzheim is about 1 1/2 hour ride by horse and buggy from Edenkoben. The way your question is phrased reminds me of my search. The 1870 US census said my ancestor was from Baden and I found him in Pfalz. The Pfalz being part of Bayern at the time and the census taker not knowing Bayern was German for Barvaria probably assumed he meant Baden. Bob