First of all, I am sorry to send this to the list, but I do not have an address for Bob. Karen Bob, Thanks for checking this. I have already written Vicki Galloway, and I have tried to call her with no luck--even using white pages on the Internet. Either she is deceased or has moved without a forwarding address. The information that I provided comes from census information for St. Clair Co, IL. Also, we found the old MENG cemetery, and the tombstone of Wilhelm is in remarkably good condition. It indicates that he was born in 1810 and died in 1850. We found the ship's list showing that he came through New Orleans on 22 Jan 1848. Havre was the port of departure. Sadly, he only lived for two years after his arrival. Also, I have found his two marriages on FHC microfilms for Ebertsheim and the birth of Louis MENG, Wilhelm's son, on the IGI. A distant relative copied Conrad MENG's passport for me. It was issued in Darmstadt and shows that he lived in Monsheim, District Worms. The passport was issued by "his Royal Highness, Grand Duke of Rhein-Hesse." Also, I found him (microfilm) on a ship's list. He arrived 1 Aug 1837 in New York on the Ship Manchester. The port of departure was Havre, and he arrived in New York.. Although I have no solid evidence that Conrad was Wilhelm's father, census information shows that after Wilhelm's death, his son, Louis, resided with Elizabetha MUELLER MENG, Conrad's elderly widow. I believe that she was Louis's paternal grandmother. Karen -----Original Message----- From: pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bob gillis Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 2:38 PM To: Karen Meng Subject: Re: [Pfalz] MENGER in Worms the only conrad meng in FamilySearch is an AF submission by:Vickki Galloway. her addres is in the submitter detail. write her. 2120 E 45TH SPOKANE WA 99223 Nothing in a Wilhelm born circa 1810. Where did you get the inforatmion you have given? bob gillis

Karen Meng wrote: >First of all, I am sorry to send this to the list, but I do not have an >address for Bob. > As I wrote to Don Hickman this list is Reply-to-List; so sending your replies to the list is the proper thing to do. However you should be able to copy my address from the list message you received into your mail composition in Outlook by clicking on my name and address or just clicking on my name if that is all that shows. >The information that I provided comes from census information for St. Clair >Co, IL. Also, we found the old MENG cemetery, and the tombstone of Wilhelm >is in remarkably good condition. It indicates that he was born in 1810 and >died in 1850. We found the ship's list showing that he came through New >Orleans on 22 Jan 1848. Havre was the port of departure. Sadly, he only >lived for two years after his arrival. Also, I have found his two marriages >on FHC microfilms for Ebertsheim and the birth of Louis MENG, Wilhelm's son, >on the IGI. > Generally a birth date on a gravestone has a low surety as it was carved based on information the carver thought he heard when he was told by someone who may not have first hand knowledge.