The CD's Germans to America cover dates 1850-1874 & 1875-1888. This family would not be on the cd. Ann In a message dated 12/3/2006 9:04:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ladyaedin@prodigy.net writes: Ken, Have you checked the Castle garden website for entry in the US? They now have a database for people entering into the US. http://castlegarden.org I would also check Germans to America. I do not have access to the books or cds but hopefully if a kind soul on the list has access they could take a peak for you. I have some allied lines that are really proving to be a challenge aside from my Adam line. My Lemmerichs and Schotthoefers are not anybetter. Sarah Adams Ken Steeber <ksteeber@shentel.net> wrote: In the 1850 census record I found Charles and Maria in Newark, New Jersey with their 5 children four of whom were born in NY. State or city? Charles is 39 and Maria is 30. Since their first born Rachel was born in 1841 they must have immigrated some time just before. The only info on their origins is that they were from Bavaria. I know it's like looking for a needle in a hay stack but I have been lucky with another branch of my family tree with less info. Best regards Ken Steeber