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    1. Re: [PFALZ] Re: Is Jacques Jacob or Johannes?
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. In German and Dutch - Jakob can be translated to James in English. I found out when I couldn't find James Fulkerson. Turned out he was listed as Jacob Fulkerson on christening records of Dutch Reformed Church. and I have seen Jacques/Jacob in German records 1798-1815 when the Rheinland was under French Empire occupation. David Samuelsen Gareth Habel wrote: > > Ah yes! This has been a subject of lively discussion in our family. I believe > one argument went: "How could you consider the German 'Jakob' to be the > equivalent of the French 'Jacques' when the English translation of 'Jacques' is > clearly 'James,' as proven by this reputable translation of the the round > 'Frere Jacques,' and furthermore is not a 'Jacobite' > by definition a supporter of James II of England?" > > The counter argument was based on a fortunate circumstance of having > simultaneous access to a German, French, and English Bibles. In Matthew 10 the > English apostles include two named 'James,' the German apostles include two > named 'Jakob,' and the French apostles include two named 'Jacques.' > > I haven't pursued the translations of the Old Testament Jacob. Has anyone > looked at that? > > I suspect that English is a much more flexible language that German or the > highly codified French. No doubt we absorbed both the English "James" and the > German "Jacob" independently of one another, while the Academie Francaise > proclaimed that all is "Jacques." > > SaintWare@aol.com wrote: > > > >>That would be Jacob. If it was Johannes in German, it's Jean in French << > > Which also means that the old round, *Are you sleeping, Brother John*, is > > incorrectly translated! :-) > > BTW, The Germans version says, *Bruder Jakob*. > > Carol > > > > ==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== > > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > > to unsubscribe > > ==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > to unsubscribe

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