I have no Bengel but ARMBRUST I have on my homepage, they are from Wartenberg, Enkenbach the most of them was luth. Take a look and if you find any connection pse inform me Happy hunting Jürgen from Sweden vhartman@algonet.se www.algonet.se/~vhartman/index1.htm (my ancestors) http://members.aol.com/vgea/historie/index.html (homepage for VG Enkenbach-Alsenborn) SOLA FIDE, QUOD DEUS BENE VERAT