Hello Kay I highly recommend you use Interlibrary Loan to borrow the three-volume first edition of Strassburger, Ralph B., "Pennsylvania German Pioneers: A publication of the original lists of arrivals in the port of Philadelphia from 1727-1808." The original 3-vol edition from, I believe 1934, includes a volume containing the passengers' facsimile signatures; the 1966 reprint by the Geneaological Publishing Company omits that volume. You already have the relevant passenger list, apparently, but Strassburger's introductory essays to the three volumes are full of wonderful information and will answer many of your questions. David Foy ("Fey" in 1741, according to the passenger list for the snow Molly, Oct 26 of that year.) -----Original Message----- From: Kay Rockett [mailto:KayRockett@webtv.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 4:57 PM To: PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PFALZ] German Research I surely hope you folks are just sitting there, eager to help a newby who knows absolutely NOTHING about German genealogy but who has just discovered an ancestor who was a German immigrant!! I am SO anxious to learn more about his life in Germany, where he lived, who his parents were, etc. My eagerly awaited papers arrived today, and I truly believe the signature on the passenger list and the signature on the will, although 40 years apart, were made by the same man. SO!!! His name was Peter KIEFFER (COOPER in America). I don't know his life span or birth year, but he died in York Co, PA in 1766. He married Margaretta FRY in PA; she was the daughter of John and Dorothea FRY. His children were named Adam, Peter, Maria Eva "Eve", and Elizabeth; Adam was the first son. He arrived in Philadelphia on the Robert And Alice 11 September 1738. The book that contains this information reads: "At the Courthouse of Philadelphia, September 11th, 1738. Present The Honourable George Thomas, Esqr, Lt Gov....The Palatines whose Names are underwritten, imported in the Ship Robert and Alice, of Dublin, Walter Goodman, Comr, from Rotterdam, but last from Dover in England, did this day take and subscribe the Oaths to the Government." Are there records involving immigration that show the names of parents and/or other pertinent data? ...