JACK NORWINE wrote: > I found most of my ancestors (NERWEIN) were from Frankenthal, Pfalz, >Germany. >Recently I found some others in the late 1700s in the following areas of >Germany. >Can someone tell me where they are located in reference to Frankenthal? >GROSS ZIMMERN, STARKENBERG, HESSEN------ >GUNDHEIM, RHEINHESSEN, HESSEN------ >FRIEDRICHSTHAL, HESSEN-NASSAU, PREUSSEN---- > there are two places to find locations of German towns: Geo@genealogy.net and Shtetlseeker at http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/ To use the former send a message with no subject or a subject of . with the names of the towns one per line and you will get information on them by return mail. Just go to the URL for shtetle seeker and enter your names. Get a good fairly large scale map of Germany

I found most of my ancestors(NERWEIN) were from Frankenthal, Pfalz, Germany. Recently I found some others in the late 1700s in the following areas of Germany. Can someone tell me where they are located in referance to Frankenthal? GROSS ZIMMERN, STARKENBERG, HESSEN------ GUNDHEIM,RHEINHESSEN, HESSEN------ FRIEDRICHSTHAL, HESSEN-NASSAU, PREUSSEN---- JACK

ADAM/ JOHAN /JOHAN ADAM KIMPEL Hello again from Ontario, CANADA Here is my query written in German. I hope the language is clear . Hallo von Ontario, KANADA, habe ich meinen mütterlichen G-ggroßvater von der Gegenwart der Jahre 1861-the erforscht. Es hat mir fast 9 Jahre gedauert, um die Informationen zu erhalten, die ich mit Ihnen teile. Ich möchte sehr zurück, erhalten in der Zeit mit seiner Familie und und seiner vorhergehenden Familie ancestors.(KIMPEL zu fördern) Ich bin über einige Rechtschreibungen gekommen und das anwesende man ist KIMPEL. Ich umreiße in diesem Buchstaben A)What I kennen in dem KIMPELs aus. B) Was ich wissen möchte. Dieses ist der Bereich, daß ich hoffe, daß Ihre Forscher mir mit helfen können. Familie: Betr.: ADAM JOHN/JOHN ADAM....surname KUAMPEL, koempel, KIMPEL, GIMBEL erforsche ich momentan die Familiengeschichte betreffend ist meinen mütterlichen Gggroßvater (oben). A) INFORMATIONEN BEKANNT. - Geburt Platz: in Geburt 1804-1805 des Winterhausen Bayerns (vielleicht) - Fromme Den. Lutheran - Eltern: Johann Kuampel..Elizabe., beider Gatte Lutheraner - Verbindung Susannah Kalb ! Jahre. 1835 - 38. - Geburt abt. 1812 fromme Höhle-römischer Katholisch-Kinder geboren in Deutschland, Henry Feb.29, Hesse 1839. Catherine 1844 - 46 John 1846 -48 Susan 1849 -50 ...................................................................................... B) INFORMATIONEN BENÖTIGT John Adam... GEBURTSDATUM DATUM DER VERBINDUNG und des PLATZES Susannah Kalb Susannah Kalb...... zum Geburtsdatum, PLATZ Kinder. wenn Kinder innerhalb des Bereichs getragen wurden. GEBURTSDATEN und PLATZ Wenn wir über das Johan Kuampel erlernen können: Vater, Mutter: Elizabeth Familie. this würden..GREAT sein! Ich würde jede mögliche Hilfe schätzen, die zur Verfügung gestellt werden kann. Herzlichst R.Keith Whittington. Ontario, KANADA keith@whittington.ca

I have Semmlers in my ancestry. They came from Otterbach, about 10km north of Kaiserslautern. Vincent E. Falter

If he was Catholic this is very, very likely. It was also common for aunts and uncles to be the godparents of their siblings' children. Maybe the older Sebastian had a brother of the person you are looking for. (Sorry, I can't remember who was originally looking. I hope this gets to that person. --Marybeth ----- Original Message ----- From: <Stewartdor@aol.com> >I haven't followed the e-mails about Sebastian Stemmler but when I see the > statement that "perhaps he was a predecessor to your Sebastian" it makes > me > think the Sebastian born in 1758 could have been the godfather to the > Sebastian > whose records are being sought. It was common to name the children > after > their godparents when they were christened. > > Good Luck in Your Search. > Dorothy

I haven't followed the e-mails about Sebastian Stemmler but when I see the statement that "perhaps he was a predecessor to your Sebastian" it makes me think the Sebastian born in 1758 could have been the godfather to the Sebastian whose records are being sought. It was common to name the children after their godparents when they were christened. Good Luck in Your Search. Dorothy

Tim, I found these records in the IGI at the FHL catalog website: Sebastisn Stemmler Male Birth: About 1758 Pforzheim, Karlsruhe, Baden Sebastisn Stemmler Marriage: 03 JAN 1788 Pforzheim, Karlsruhe, Baden Perhaps he was a predecessor to your Sebastian. I have a Johann Nicolaus Stemmler (1702-1770) in my family tree in Glan-Muenchweiler. His daughter married a Velten and aVelten married a Dietrich. There are Glan-Muenchweiler records online, both Evangelical and Catholic at http://www.igi-index.de/?seite=batch8&lang=uk&sort=ort&id=glan-Muenchweiler Maybe you can find your Sebastian there. Hope some of this helps. Marian http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealogylinks/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <TAllgeyer@aol.com> To: <PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 10:30 AM Subject: [Pfalz] Sebastian STEMMLER-> b. 20 Jan. 1827 > Hello Group, > > Attempting to locate original village of Sebastian Stemmler for the past > 20 years. Emigrated in either 1837 or 1851. Date of birth 20 January > 1827. > Still ordering film for areas with high concentrations of Stemmler > surnames. > Anyone who has additional info or opinions or even has this person in > their > database, please write. This line has been a brick wall since the > beginning > of the research 20 years ago. Thanks for reading. > > Tim Allgeyer > Cincinnati > > > ==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== > Please don't post private information about living people > without permission. All posts are archived. Search by keyword: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=PFALZ > Browse (threaded): http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PFALZ > > Because messages are archived, please send personal messages, (thank > yous, etc.) to the person you are addressing, rather than to the List. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Hello Group, Attempting to locate original village of Sebastian Stemmler for the past 20 years. Emigrated in either 1837 or 1851. Date of birth 20 January 1827. Still ordering film for areas with high concentrations of Stemmler surnames. Anyone who has additional info or opinions or even has this person in their database, please write. This line has been a brick wall since the beginning of the research 20 years ago. Thanks for reading. Tim Allgeyer Cincinnati

Hi, does anyone have the LDS film for Dannstadt, #193812? There is an entry for a Daniel Saar, marriage to Susanna Zimmerman, 28 Oct 1875. I'm not at home now to order this film and was wondering if some kind soul would look up this marriage for me. I'm hoping his parents are Joh. Lorenz Saar and Charlotte Arnold. If so, I will order the film when I get home. Thank you for reading this. Elsie Scharpf Saar Genealogy research American: Parks, Avann, Bulson, Soden, Menkens German: Wienecke, Storz, Scharpf, Saar, Stelzer

Daniel Long/Lang/Lange family who lived in Rodenbach, Rhenish Palatinate, Germany. Daniel was born on 15/16 Oct. 1846. He fought in the war between Germany and France in 1870. He married Margaret Jung in 1867. Margaret Jung was born in Weilerbach, Germany on 18 May 1845/1846/1847. They had 8 children then came to the United States during the year 1883. If anyone could look up any information it would be greatly appreciated. Margaret had a brother named Johann or Jacob that also came to the United States. Thanks Erik

NOTE: Sending to TRIER list and to PFALZ list. Seeking information re: --Matthew HENKES and CHRISTOPHER HENKES from Trier (1800s). --Evee HENKES, probably from Mettendorf (Bitburg area) (1700s-1800s). --ENGMANN, EVEN, RIES, KOCH, HESER/HAIZER, MOEHN, SCHOMER, WIRTZ (1800s-1700s). --Question: Is the name HENKES a spelling variation of HENCKES—or are they completely different family names? I have HENKES relatives from two separate family branches--from Trier--and from Mettendorf (Bitburg area), not far apart. They intermarried in the 1900s in the U.S., including with other family branch (RIES and EVEN) from Beaufort, Luxembourg, also not far from Trier. I have little information about them. Overview details are below. Thank you, Laura ________ OVERVIEW DETAILS: 1) TRIER, GERMANY (not far from Mettendorf, Germany and Beaufort, Luxembourg): Matthew HENKES Born: November 7, 1856 - Trier, Germany. Died: January 11, 1926 - Mt. Angel, OR or Woodburn, OR married (in U.S. – probably in Wisconsin) Mary Josephine ENGMANN Born: October 10, 1863 - ___________, Missouri Died: January 26, 1947 – Gladstone, OR BACKGROUND: --Matthew HENKES immigrated to U.S. (and lived in Wisconsin) before settling in Mt. Angel, Oregon (arrived by rail) ~1883. --He probably met and married Mary Josephine ENGMANN in Wisconsin. Mary’s family may have moved to Wisconsin from Missouri. --Matthew HENKES had a brother in Wisconsin who probably immigrated separately. His brother’s first name is unknown—but might have been Christopher HENKES; he did not move to Oregon from Wisconsin. 2) METTENDORF, GERMANY (Bitburg area--not far from Trier, Germany and Beaufort, Luxembourg): Jacob KOCH (born Nov. 24, 1858) married Margaret RIES (marriage in U.S. on Jan. 12 1893). Nicolauni KOCH married Anna Mary HESER* (Feb. 1, 1858). (Immigrated to U.S.) Henrici KOCH married Catherinae MOEHN (Feb. 5, 1845). Jacobi HESER* married Angelae WIRTZ (Jan. 1, 1827). Joanis HESER* married Annee Catherine SCHOMER (1700s-1800s). Petri WIRTZ married Evee HENKES (1700s-1800s). [Note: *HESER may have also been spelled HAIZER.] 3) BEAUFORT, LUXEMBOURG (also spelled as Beofort or Befort), not far from Mettendorf and Trier): Margaret RIES (born in U.S. Nov. 27, 1870). Conrad RIES married Katherine EVEN (Feb. 3, 1870 – marriage location unknown). Michal EVEN married Margaret _________ (marriage date unknown – 1800s). ******************************************** -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 7/7/2006

Dear Sarah, If there is any way I can help you in the Rochester area, let me know. My grandmother, Martha Fetter, grew up partially in Milton, PA, but later moved to Rochester. I do know the name Quetschenbach and Gefell from the Greece area, suburb of Rochester. Lisa Luchsinger Swovick ----- Original Message ----- From: "SARAH ADAMS" <ladyaedin@prodigy.net> To: <PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Le Havre/Rotterdam > Lisa, > > Mine settled in Reynolds, North Dakota originally and then scattered from there. Ironically, I have Fetters also. I have several branches that went to New Rockford, ND, Humboldt, SK, St. Paul, MN and Rochester, NY. > > My primary focus in the Rochester area is Gefell, Powers, Schotthoefer, Quetschenbach. Gefell and Powers are connected to my main line and Schotthoefer (NY families) and Quetschenbach are allied lines. > > Sarah Adams > > > > Lisa Swovick <tswovic1@rochester.rr.com> wrote: > Sarah, > > Where did your Ackermans settle? I have Ackermans who settled in Milton, > Pennsylvania area, eventually married into the Fetter clan. > > Lisa Luchsinger Swovick > researching Fetter, Steinruck, Luchsinger, Schneider, Pfeiffenberger > (Pifer), Gendreau > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SARAH ADAMS" > To: > > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:44 PM > Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Le Havre/Rotterdam > > > > > > Good day > > > > With a bit further checking of my data, most of my Schotthoefer, > Ackermans and Berthold families came through Rotterdam. I only have one > family, JOhannes Adam and his family, that came through Hamburg. > > > > My Rotterdam departures include Joseph Schotthoefer, Jacob Allmaras, > Mathias Flory, Joseph Ackerman, Micheal Bethold, Barbara Lemmerich and Jacob > Witz. > > > > My group is the second large wave to leave Otterstadt in the 1880s to > the early 1910s. There were a total of 11 families and a number of > individuals. > > > > However several Ackerman,Schaefer and Flory males came through La Havre > in the 1880s. The family story is they wanted to evade conscription > > > > I do have several families, Bietz and Schreiner that came to the US > through La Havre in the 1860s. > > > > Sarah Adams > > > > > > ==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== > > Pfalz Message Board: > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/rw/localities.ceeurope.germany.rheinland.rheinlandpfalz > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > ==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== > Please don't post private information about living people > without permission. All posts are archived. Search by keyword: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=PFALZ > Browse (threaded): http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PFALZ > > Because messages are archived, please send personal messages, (thank > yous, etc.) to the person you are addressing, rather than to the List. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without > permission of the author. Read RootsWeb's Acceptable Use Policy at > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Hello Patti, Yes, I do recall that list. A number of names on that list were connected to individuals in my database. Some of the other names included Fahrenbach, Quetschenbach, Flory, Tremmel and a few others. Ironically, a number of them are distant relations to my Schotthoefers. Warm regards,, Sarah Patti Hacht <phacht@peoplepc.com> wrote: Hi Sarah: Are you aware that Theodor Flory (and children Katharina and Elizabeth) were passengers on the "Prince Arthur" in 1852? They were part of that emigration scheme to rid the citizens of Otterstadt of 30 of their poorest families. I sent the URL to this list a couple of weeks ago... Regards, Patti Lakeville, MI ==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== Please don't post private information about living people without permission. All posts are archived. Search by keyword: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=PFALZ Browse (threaded): http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PFALZ Because messages are archived, please send personal messages, (thank yous, etc.) to the person you are addressing, rather than to the List. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hi Sarah: Are you aware that Theodor Flory (and children Katharina and Elizabeth) were passengers on the "Prince Arthur" in 1852? They were part of that emigration scheme to rid the citizens of Otterstadt of 30 of their poorest families. I sent the URL to this list a couple of weeks ago... Regards, Patti Lakeville, MI

There is intersting article that can be found at: http://www.uni-oldenburg.de/nausa/pitfal.htm which gives a number of examples of mssing people and places in vol 1 -50. bob gillis Jerry Cowley wrote: > Germans to America is as complete as the records they have to work > with. They are particularly good for Hamburg emigration. The emigrants > from Bremen, for example, are not included because those records were > burned in WWII. > > My ggg grandfather Karl F. W. Brandt arrived in New Orleans from > Nammen in Westphalia in 1853, having emigrated through Bremen. After > many hours with the set of Germans to America, I searched the port of > New Orleans indexes on film at the FHL for likely entries, then sent > for the films to look at the full passenger list. We confirmed him by > looking at who was listed with him--a Glammeier family, his uncle's. > > The FHL has similar indexes from each port as they have been compiled. > > Jerry in Boise > > > > > > > > ==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== > To ask for a lookup or volunteer to do acts of genealogical kindness, > visit Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness, http://www.RAOGK.org > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Several years go I read a critique of the Germans to America series, vol 1 -50... The author said that many people and origins were missing or wrong in the earlier books. See the article at http://www.uni-oldenburg.de/nausa/pitfal.htm. The Germans to America website has several useful links for other sources of emigration informtion. bob gillis Jerry Cowley wrote: > Germans to America is as complete as the records they have to work > with. They are particularly good for Hamburg emigration. The emigrants > from Bremen, for example, are not included because those records were > burned in WWII. > > My ggg grandfather Karl F. W. Brandt arrived in New Orleans from > Nammen in Westphalia in 1853, having emigrated through Bremen. After > many hours with the set of Germans to America, I searched the port of > New Orleans indexes on film at the FHL for likely entries, then sent > for the films to look at the full passenger list. We confirmed him by > looking at who was listed with him--a Glammeier family, his uncle's. > > The FHL has similar indexes from each port as they have been compiled. > > Jerry in Boise > > > > > > > > ==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== > To ask for a lookup or volunteer to do acts of genealogical kindness, > visit Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness, http://www.RAOGK.org > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Hi, Is the Fingado name in the Otterberg Book? Thank you. Sue Fingado-Hubbard

This is a great big THANK YOU to all of you who responded to my GEHM and BRECHEISEN questions. They have all been helpful and thought provoking causing me to do some extra preparations for our trip. I wish each of you success in researching if your various family lines. Thanks again, Dianne S. Donovan WA State USA

Ann, thanks so very much for the lookup of the Germans to America CD. These two names seem to be very allusive. I'll check further especially on Gehm. Thanks, Dianne -----Original Message----- From: AnnWicki@aol.com [mailto:AnnWicki@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 5:14 PM To: PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Germans to America CD This is the only Brecheisen on the CD: Passenger's Name: Ignaz Brecheisen Age: 32 Gender: Male Occupation: Farmer Last Residence: Bavaria Date of Arrival: Aug 27, 1853 Final Destination: United States Purpose for Travel: Staying in the USA Ship's Name: St Nicolas Captain's Name: John Bragdon Manifest ID Number: 00007418 Port of Embarkation: Havre Mode of Travel: Steerage This is the only possible match: Passenger's Name: W. Gehm Age: 20 Gender: Male Occupation: Farmer Last Residence: Bavaria Date of Arrival: May 13, 1871 Final Destination: United States Ship's Name: Main Port of Embarkation: Bremen Port of Debarkation: New York In a message dated 7/6/2006 6:10:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, diannesd@wavecable.com writes: Ann, could I take you up on the lookup of people on this CD? It would be very much appreciated. 1] Martin Brecheisen [b 1821 in Alsace] immigrated in 1855 2] Wilhelm Gehm [b. 1848 in Frankelbach] immigrated ca 1870 Thanks, Dianne -----Original Message----- From: AnnWicki@aol.com [mailto:AnnWicki@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:04 AM To: PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Pfalz] Germans to America CD Nancy: I have the CD's Germans to America 1850-1888. Send me the names, ages and arrival date and I will check for you. Ann ==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== Find out the latest news -- new databases, webpages and mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. Subscribe here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Germans to America is as complete as the records they have to work with. They are particularly good for Hamburg emigration. The emigrants from Bremen, for example, are not included because those records were burned in WWII. My ggg grandfather Karl F. W. Brandt arrived in New Orleans from Nammen in Westphalia in 1853, having emigrated through Bremen. After many hours with the set of Germans to America, I searched the port of New Orleans indexes on film at the FHL for likely entries, then sent for the films to look at the full passenger list. We confirmed him by looking at who was listed with him--a Glammeier family, his uncle's. The FHL has similar indexes from each port as they have been compiled. Jerry in Boise