I was able to get birth, marriage and death records. I did not get emigration records in Speyer. I did get immigration records from NARA. Judy Christopher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Chapman" <SurfCityTom@socal.rr.com> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Pfalz, Bavaria and France > Judy Christopher wrote: > > <<My Greatgramdfather and Grandfather immigrated from Speyer in 1883.>> > > F.Y.I. - Speyer was where they kept the emigration records - not > necessarily where people lived. > > > > > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes, my 3grgrandfather, Joseph Pfeiffenberger's discharge papers said he was from Bavaria, but, after I asked a German historian to look at the documents, he discovered that he was from Hauenstein, now in the Pfalz, and I was able to access church records in Hauenstein based on theat information. However, had I not had the document looked at by a professional, I wouldn't have known that my roots were in the Pfalz! Border lines have changed over time! I received my undergraduate degree in the German language and I visited this area of the Pfalz for the first time 3 years ago, and they speak a wonderful dialect of German, very soft with overtones of the French language in it. I found it delightful! Lisa Swovick Rochester, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@suscom.net> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Pfalz, Bavaria and France My Greatgramdfather and Grandfather immigrated from Speyer in 1883. This past spring I went to visit and had an opportunity to go to the Archives there. The information I received was just amazing. Allowing me to trace my family back to 1633. I wish you good luck in finding your family. LDS Library has most of the BDMs for the Pfalz. However, I had great gaps in the family and was able to put it together in Speyer. Judy Christopher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Beth Michaels" <50below@pobox.mtaonline.net> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:50 PM Subject: [Pfalz] Pfalz, Bavaria and France Several people have been discussing the Pfalz, Alsace and Bavaria lately. For what it's worth, here is my two cents worth. I think it was in the 17th century that Louis XIV (L'etat c'est moi.) sent his French armies into the Pfalz region and other areas of what is now western Germany. I have read that during that time many churches and their records were burned. I am pretty sure that the records I am able to access from the town I have been researching begin in the early 18th century because they were restarted after the French left. After that the Pfalz was independent, but it also included part of what is now Würtemburg, which is why Heidelberg, the capital of the Pfalz is now in Würtemberg. As Bob wrote it then became part of Bavaria. But it wasn't straightforward. The ruler of Bavaria died without any heirs. The closest heir was the Elector Palatine, who then did inherit Bavaria. He had to move to Munich from Heidelberg (which made him personally unhappy because he liked it where he was). Bavaria was bigger and more powerful. Munich had a more powerful and glamorous court. So, even though the Pfalz inherited Bavaria, it became a part of Bavaria because of economics really. Then in the early 19th century Napoleon's army took the whole west side of the Rhein River and incorporated it into France for a few years. Armies have been marching back and forth across the Pfalz since the Romans arrived. It is in the middle of everything and very few European wars missed it. My great-grandfather's obit said he was born in Bavaria. I am one of those people who looked all over Bavaria for a sign of him or his family. Nothing. Finally I discovered the Pfalz, which was a part of Bavaria at the time of the records that are in the LDS IGI. After that, when I was talking to my family, my dad popped up and said, "Oh yes, Mom always said her father was from Elsass (German spelling for Alsace). I had looked all over Bavaria for Klingenmünster because I got that name out of the IGI. I finally found it in the Pfalz. That was when my uncle finally said "Oh yes, Mom always said her father was from Münster." This was after I had asked both my father and uncle several times for any little bits of information they could remember. It wasn't until I had some names and places that it jogged their memories. But I had the confirmation I needed. And I found out that my great-grandfather, who had been born there, was completely aware of the historical an social relationships among Bavaria, the Pfalz and Alsace. The history there is confusing, and I do not have it all straight in my mind. German history books don't say much about the Pfalz. It wasn't one of the major players in German history, though the ruler was an Elector of the Holy Roman Empire, and the Ottonia Emperors are buried in the cathedral in Speyer. I am thinking of trying a book about the Napoleanic wars and about Louis XIV to get a few more details. Most books about the area are written in German, which I, alas, do not read. I guess I have run out of steam. Marybeth Michaels Alaska, USA ********* Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********* Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Judy, Thanks for the idea. If I ever get near Speyer, I will try this. Where did you actually go, and what if you don't speak German? Marybeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@suscom.net> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Pfalz, Bavaria and France > My Greatgramdfather and Grandfather immigrated from Speyer in 1883. This > past spring I went to visit and had an opportunity to go to the Archives > there. The information I received was just amazing. Allowing me to trace > my family back to 1633. > I wish you good luck in finding your family. LDS Library has most of the > BDMs for the Pfalz. However, I had great gaps in the family and was able > to > put it together in Speyer. Judy Christopher

<<Are you in relation to the WV Chapman's.>> Absolutely! Are you? Jim

Judy Christopher wrote: <<My Greatgramdfather and Grandfather immigrated from Speyer in 1883.>> F.Y.I. - Speyer was where they kept the emigration records - not necessarily where people lived.

My Greatgramdfather and Grandfather immigrated from Speyer in 1883. This past spring I went to visit and had an opportunity to go to the Archives there. The information I received was just amazing. Allowing me to trace my family back to 1633. I wish you good luck in finding your family. LDS Library has most of the BDMs for the Pfalz. However, I had great gaps in the family and was able to put it together in Speyer. Judy Christopher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Beth Michaels" <50below@pobox.mtaonline.net> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:50 PM Subject: [Pfalz] Pfalz, Bavaria and France Several people have been discussing the Pfalz, Alsace and Bavaria lately. For what it's worth, here is my two cents worth. I think it was in the 17th century that Louis XIV (L'etat c'est moi.) sent his French armies into the Pfalz region and other areas of what is now western Germany. I have read that during that time many churches and their records were burned. I am pretty sure that the records I am able to access from the town I have been researching begin in the early 18th century because they were restarted after the French left. After that the Pfalz was independent, but it also included part of what is now Würtemburg, which is why Heidelberg, the capital of the Pfalz is now in Würtemberg. As Bob wrote it then became part of Bavaria. But it wasn't straightforward. The ruler of Bavaria died without any heirs. The closest heir was the Elector Palatine, who then did inherit Bavaria. He had to move to Munich from Heidelberg (which made him personally unhappy because he liked it where he was). Bavaria was bigger and more powerful. Munich had a more powerful and glamorous court. So, even though the Pfalz inherited Bavaria, it became a part of Bavaria because of economics really. Then in the early 19th century Napoleon's army took the whole west side of the Rhein River and incorporated it into France for a few years. Armies have been marching back and forth across the Pfalz since the Romans arrived. It is in the middle of everything and very few European wars missed it. My great-grandfather's obit said he was born in Bavaria. I am one of those people who looked all over Bavaria for a sign of him or his family. Nothing. Finally I discovered the Pfalz, which was a part of Bavaria at the time of the records that are in the LDS IGI. After that, when I was talking to my family, my dad popped up and said, "Oh yes, Mom always said her father was from Elsass (German spelling for Alsace). I had looked all over Bavaria for Klingenmünster because I got that name out of the IGI. I finally found it in the Pfalz. That was when my uncle finally said "Oh yes, Mom always said her father was from Münster." This was after I had asked both my father and uncle several times for any little bits of information they could remember. It wasn't until I had some names and places that it jogged their memories. But I had the confirmation I needed. And I found out that my great-grandfather, who had been born there, was completely aware of the historical an social relationships among Bavaria, the Pfalz and Alsace. The history there is confusing, and I do not have it all straight in my mind. German history books don't say much about the Pfalz. It wasn't one of the major players in German history, though the ruler was an Elector of the Holy Roman Empire, and the Ottonia Emperors are buried in the cathedral in Speyer. I am thinking of trying a book about the Napoleanic wars and about Louis XIV to get a few more details. Most books about the area are written in German, which I, alas, do not read. I guess I have run out of steam. Marybeth Michaels Alaska, USA ********* Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Debbie, I have ancestors from the Rhein-Pfalz going all the way back to 1710, perhaps earlier. Among many other surnames & locations in the Rhein-Pfalz I have WEINMANN from Albsheim (adjoining Gauersheim) and URBAN et al from Ungstein (near Bad Durkheim). I also have ancestors in Sausenheim, further to the South, near Grunstadt. These locations are in very close proximity to your ancestors location in Gauersheim. Would you please be so kind as to elaborate on the following: " ... I was able to purchase 3 Familienbuch of 3 adjoining towns in the Pfalz area, that were resently transcribed." I would be interested to know if such Familienbuchs for my URBAN et al families are available for my purchase. Could you please name the individual resources (books) that you purchased and the details (source & price). I wonder if any of our ancestral lines are connected? Thank you, Bette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Hoffman" <mdhof@pymtele.net> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] 1750 year location of Gauersheim, Kreis Donnersberg > Dear Bob, > Then a researcher has viewed the IGI film from Gauersheim and found the > birth and marriage records of this family in the 1750 period with it > stating > Evangelisch Pfalz, Bayern. I also looked at the index of IGI. > > Knowing the location of a town here in the present is also so very > important. I know of researchers searching all of present day Bavaria for > their families, and the town is in the Pfalz area now. I was able to > purchase 3 Familienbuch of 3 adjoining towns in the Pfalz area, that were > resently transcribed. And shared the ancestor report with a friend who was > "still looking" in Bavaria for his family. > > Thank you so much, > Debbie Hoffman

Several people have been discussing the Pfalz, Alsace and Bavaria lately. For what it's worth, here is my two cents worth. I think it was in the 17th century that Louis XIV (L'etat c'est moi.) sent his French armies into the Pfalz region and other areas of what is now western Germany. I have read that during that time many churches and their records were burned. I am pretty sure that the records I am able to access from the town I have been researching begin in the early 18th century because they were restarted after the French left. After that the Pfalz was independent, but it also included part of what is now Würtemburg, which is why Heidelberg, the capital of the Pfalz is now in Würtemberg. As Bob wrote it then became part of Bavaria. But it wasn't straightforward. The ruler of Bavaria died without any heirs. The closest heir was the Elector Palatine, who then did inherit Bavaria. He had to move to Munich from Heidelberg (which made him personally unhappy because he liked it where he was). Bavaria was bigger and more powerful. Munich had a more powerful and glamorous court. So, even though the Pfalz inherited Bavaria, it became a part of Bavaria because of economics really. Then in the early 19th century Napoleon's army took the whole west side of the Rhein River and incorporated it into France for a few years. Armies have been marching back and forth across the Pfalz since the Romans arrived. It is in the middle of everything and very few European wars missed it. My great-grandfather's obit said he was born in Bavaria. I am one of those people who looked all over Bavaria for a sign of him or his family. Nothing. Finally I discovered the Pfalz, which was a part of Bavaria at the time of the records that are in the LDS IGI. After that, when I was talking to my family, my dad popped up and said, "Oh yes, Mom always said her father was from Elsass (German spelling for Alsace). I had looked all over Bavaria for Klingenmünster because I got that name out of the IGI. I finally found it in the Pfalz. That was when my uncle finally said "Oh yes, Mom always said her father was from Münster." This was after I had asked both my father and uncle several times for any little bits of information they could remember. It wasn't until I had some names and places that it jogged their memories. But I had the confirmation I needed. And I found out that my great-grandfather, who had been born there, was completely aware of the historical an social relationships among Bavaria, the Pfalz and Alsace. The history there is confusing, and I do not have it all straight in my mind. German history books don't say much about the Pfalz. It wasn't one of the major players in German history, though the ruler was an Elector of the Holy Roman Empire, and the Ottonia Emperors are buried in the cathedral in Speyer. I am thinking of trying a book about the Napoleanic wars and about Louis XIV to get a few more details. Most books about the area are written in German, which I, alas, do not read. I guess I have run out of steam. Marybeth Michaels Alaska, USA

Dear Bob, Thank you so much for your help on the location of Gauersheim in 1750. The source for a Christian Heilman/Heylman was in a book published Heil Heilman Stand Proud, by Edith (Heilman) Medhurst in 1984. His son Peter b. circa 1749, from the book only stated born "Wuertemburg," many on the Rootweb World Connect have been using Alsace Lorraine, for this same Peter. Then a researcher has viewed the IGI film from Gauersheim and found the birth and marriage records of this family in the 1750 period with it stating Evangelisch Pfalz, Bayern. I also looked at the index of IGI. Knowing the location of a town here in the present is also so very important. I know of researchers searching all of present day Bavaria for their families, and the town is in the Pfalz area now. I was able to purchase 3 Familienbuch of 3 adjoining towns in the Pfalz area, that were resently transcribed. And shared the ancestor report with a friend who was "still looking" in Bavaria for his family. Thank you so much, Debbie Hoffman ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob gillis" <robertgillis@verizon.net> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] 1750 year location of Gauersheim, Kreis Donnersberg > > > Debbie Hoffman wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>I hope someone could tell me what was the state or ruling power in 1750, >>for Gauersheim which is in present day: Kreis Donnersberg, >>Rheinland-Pfalz. >> >>Conflicting data of the Heilman/Heylman surname from this area in 1750, >>some state the area was Alsace Lorraine and others Wurttemberg. I was >>thinking it was a part of Bavaria in that year. >> > > From my Encyclopedia Britannica, 14 the Edition, 1930: In 1750 The > Pfalz ws independent since 1742 under Charles Theodore, Count Palatine. > He became elector of Bavaria in 1777 so the Pfalz became part of > Bavaria then. > > The Pfalz around 1750 extended east into what is now Wuertemburg. > > What are the sources of your conflicting data: AF or submitted IGI? > > bob gillis > > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Debbie Hoffman wrote: >Hi, > >I hope someone could tell me what was the state or ruling power in 1750, for Gauersheim which is in present day: Kreis Donnersberg, Rheinland-Pfalz. > >Conflicting data of the Heilman/Heylman surname from this area in 1750, some state the area was Alsace Lorraine and others Wurttemberg. I was thinking it was a part of Bavaria in that year. > From my Encyclopedia Britannica, 14 the Edition, 1930: In 1750 The Pfalz ws independent since 1742 under Charles Theodore, Count Palatine. He became elector of Bavaria in 1777 so the Pfalz became part of Bavaria then. The Pfalz around 1750 extended east into what is now Wuertemburg. What are the sources of your conflicting data: AF or submitted IGI? bob gillis

Hi, I hope someone could tell me what was the state or ruling power in 1750, for Gauersheim which is in present day: Kreis Donnersberg, Rheinland-Pfalz. Conflicting data of the Heilman/Heylman surname from this area in 1750, some state the area was Alsace Lorraine and others Wurttemberg. I was thinking it was a part of Bavaria in that year. Thanks for any help. Debbie

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I am searching for information on my g g grandfather LUDWIG LOUIS PREISEL (1859) who married ELIZABETH PFAUENBECKER in ZELL, GERMANY on Feb. 12, 1882. One of their children was Margaret, my grandmother. Ludwig and Elizabeth immigrated in 1882-1883 eventually living in Pennsylvania. If this helps, Elizabeth's parents were PETER NEUHEUSEL (spelling change) and ELIZABETHA MARIA FRISCH (1822) from JAGERSBURG, RHINELAND PFALTZ, GERMANY. ELIZABETHA died in WALDMOHR in 1895. I have all kind of information on the Neiheisels but none on my g g grandfather. Hope someone can help or tell me where to look. Thanks in advance. Mary www.madess@adelphia.net

unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol" <cbuss@gt.rr.com> To: <PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] You may notice something different here, soon > unsubscribe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Valorie Zimmerman" <valoriez@zimres.net> > To: <PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 5:16 AM > Subject: [Pfalz] You may notice something different here, soon > > > > Hi, all. Rootsweb is moving to a new list system, and our list is > scheduled to > > be moved this week. You may notice nothing, or some small differences. You > > probably got an email from "announce@mail.rootsweb.com" explaining what > was > > happening, unless it landed in your SPAM folder. If you need to see the > > entire email, please contact me privately. However, here is a list of the > > changes you might notice: > > > > 1. Digest subscribers will notice a small difference in the layout, volume > > and issue numbers of the list digests. If your digests arrive in a > different > > format than you are used to and you would like it changed, contact me > > privately at the list admin address, which stays the same: > > LISTNAME-admin@rootsweb.com. Also, if you run into any unusual or > > confusing occurrences with mail from this list that could possibly be > related > > to the changeover, let me know at the admin address. > > > > 2. The "-L" is being dropped from the official list name. This means the > > "from" address your mailing list emails come from will be slightly > > different- ListName@rootsweb.com instead of the current > > ListName-L@rootsweb.com. ** You may have to adjust your spam filters or > > put the new address on your "accept" list to prevent it from being > > caught in your "junk" folder. ** If you use email headers to filter list > mail > > to a special folder in your email program, check whether your filters will > > need tweaking under the new system. > > > > 3. If you previously subscribed to the list in both L and D modes using > the > > same email address you will find that you are no longer subbed in Digest > > mode. The new software doesn't permit the same address to be subbed in > both L > > and D modes. Therefore, if you wish to receive both modes, you will need > to > > subscribe to the digests using a different email address. Write to me at > > valorie dot zimmerman at gmail dot com if you would like an invite to > gmail, > > one of the free email systems available. Yahoo and Hotmail will also work > > well. > > > > This sounds like a big change, but it doesn't have to change the way you > > use the list. Here's why: > > > > - You will still be able to send messages to the list using the > > "ListName-L@rootsweb.com" email address you use today. Additionally, you > > can choose to drop the "-L" and send your messages to > > ListName@rootsweb.com. Both addresses will work after the list has been > > migrated. > > > > - You will still be able to subscribe and unsubscribe to the mail or > > digest mode by sending your request to ListName-L-request@rootsweb.com > > or ListName-D-request@rootsweb.com as you do today. You will also be > > able to unsubscribe from the mail or digest mode by sending your > > "unsubscribe" message to LISTNAME-request@rootsweb.com. Be sure to use the > > command in the Subject line, not just the body of the message. > > --- > > > > Please continue to send your queries, data, and responses to the list as > > usual. It is a great time to post a new query to try to break down those > > brick walls. > > > > I have a number of lists moving this week; sorry for the form letter! > > Eventually we will all be very happy that this move was made, difficult as > it > > is for the staff and list administrators right now. It's like moving from > an > > old house with a leaky roof and bad plumbing into a new modern place -- > very > > cool, but the move is still difficult! > > > > All the best, > > > > Valorie > > > > PS: Exact timing of the move: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/migrate_sched.html > > > > > > ==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== > > To Unsubscribe: Click on mailto:Pfalz-L-request@rootsweb.com > > to send a new message, with UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject and again as > > the *only* text in the message. Contact Listowner Valorie Zimmerman: > > mailto:Pfalz-admin@rootsweb.com with list problems. > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > ==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== > Find out the latest news -- new databases, webpages and mailing lists > at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. Subscribe here: > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

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Hi, all. Rootsweb is moving to a new list system, and our list is scheduled to be moved this week. You may notice nothing, or some small differences. You probably got an email from "announce@mail.rootsweb.com" explaining what was happening, unless it landed in your SPAM folder. If you need to see the entire email, please contact me privately. However, here is a list of the changes you might notice: 1. Digest subscribers will notice a small difference in the layout, volume and issue numbers of the list digests. If your digests arrive in a different format than you are used to and you would like it changed, contact me privately at the list admin address, which stays the same: LISTNAME-admin@rootsweb.com. Also, if you run into any unusual or confusing occurrences with mail from this list that could possibly be related to the changeover, let me know at the admin address. 2. The "-L" is being dropped from the official list name. This means the "from" address your mailing list emails come from will be slightly different- ListName@rootsweb.com instead of the current ListName-L@rootsweb.com. ** You may have to adjust your spam filters or put the new address on your "accept" list to prevent it from being caught in your "junk" folder. ** If you use email headers to filter list mail to a special folder in your email program, check whether your filters will need tweaking under the new system. 3. If you previously subscribed to the list in both L and D modes using the same email address you will find that you are no longer subbed in Digest mode. The new software doesn't permit the same address to be subbed in both L and D modes. Therefore, if you wish to receive both modes, you will need to subscribe to the digests using a different email address. Write to me at valorie dot zimmerman at gmail dot com if you would like an invite to gmail, one of the free email systems available. Yahoo and Hotmail will also work well. This sounds like a big change, but it doesn't have to change the way you use the list. Here's why: - You will still be able to send messages to the list using the "ListName-L@rootsweb.com" email address you use today. Additionally, you can choose to drop the "-L" and send your messages to ListName@rootsweb.com. Both addresses will work after the list has been migrated. - You will still be able to subscribe and unsubscribe to the mail or digest mode by sending your request to ListName-L-request@rootsweb.com or ListName-D-request@rootsweb.com as you do today. You will also be able to unsubscribe from the mail or digest mode by sending your "unsubscribe" message to LISTNAME-request@rootsweb.com. Be sure to use the command in the Subject line, not just the body of the message. --- Please continue to send your queries, data, and responses to the list as usual. It is a great time to post a new query to try to break down those brick walls. I have a number of lists moving this week; sorry for the form letter! Eventually we will all be very happy that this move was made, difficult as it is for the staff and list administrators right now. It's like moving from an old house with a leaky roof and bad plumbing into a new modern place -- very cool, but the move is still difficult! All the best, Valorie PS: Exact timing of the move: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/migrate_sched.html

Pfalz is coming through just fine. Thanks. Carolyn

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Dear Bette Because I have worked a lot with huguenot and walloon names, I suspect the husbands name in stead of Johann Nicklas URBAN could be originaly in french Jean Nicolas URBAIN. He could be from Hainaut area in now southern Belgium or France. The name was used in Paturâges, le Borinäge, Hainaut. If you look at FamilySearch and type "Jean URBAIN", you will se a lot of persons named URBAIN, also a few Jean Nicolas and Jean Francois URBAIN. I don't know, if you can use this information, but some huguenots and walloons were in Pfalz, when the Calvinistic religion was allowed. Some URBAIN are mentioned in these links: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=ancestorsearchresults.asp http://home5.inet.tele.dk/koudal/slaegt (my webpage) Friendly greetings from Denmark Hanne Thorup Koudal

Have you looked in the Bad Durkheim records? Freinsheim is just north of Bad Durkheim and Ungstein is now part of Bad Durkheim. If she was from Freinsheim it does not necessarily mean she was born there. Also if she had a son when she was 50+ then she could have been a widow. bob gillis Bette McIntosh wrote: > Dear List, > > After my last post, I have managed to really confuse. I will try again. > > I am looking for the birth record & marriage record for Anna Juliana > BOEHM born ca. 1754 in Freinsheim, Rhein-Pfalz per her son's birth > record in 1798. Her parents & siblings are unknown to me. She > married Johann Nicklaus URBAN ( he was from Ungstein) before 1798.