How did your people spell their surnames and where were they in the 1880 Census. What are the sources of your information? Where else have you looked for information? bob gillis fenenga@connpoint.net wrote: >I apologize for the duplicate post. I forgot to fill in the subject line. > >I am researching several unrelated ancestors in the Pfalz. each of them give their >birthplace as Bavaria, but they were from the Pfalz area of Germany >they are; > >Jacob and Christopher Dunheiffer. first, what spelling would their name be in >Germany? would it be Dunhoff? I can find very little regarding the name as I have >it. >Jacob was born about 1804 in Bavaria. we know little of his time in Germany beyond >this, except that he came to America sometime before 1840. >Christopher is likely to be his brother, also born in the period 1800-1810, and >living in the same town as Jacob, which is Cambridge, Ohio, U.S.A. Jacob is my >fiance's ancestor. > >Christen Ultsch, aka Christopher. he was born about 1833 in Bavaria. we know >little of his time in Germany except that he left on the Weser or Wessler in 1872 >and arrived in America on 20 Jul 1872. he settled in Erie, Pennsylvania. he is my >late husband\'s ancestor. > >Johann(es) Weyrauch. he was born about 1785 and says on his immigration record >that he was born in Bavaria and was from Bergzabern, Spire, Bavaria. I contacted >the archives in Spire and they couldn't find anything on him. he died in 1848 in >the area of Johnstown, Pennsylvania and there is little in the way of a record for >him. his immigration says he left Havre de Grace on 3 Apr 1831 and arrived in New >York on 15 May 1831. he is my ancestor. > >if anyone can give me guidance to tracing these people in Germany, I would greatly >appreciate it. their christening/baptism records are not in the International >Genealogical Index at FamilySearch.org as far as I can tell. > >I also have a Charles Wagner, b. abt 1855 Poland or Rusia son of German parennt(s) >Anton and Thecla Wagner, but I do not know where they came from. they left Germany >around the time of the civil war, settled in Poland or Russia, removed to England >and Charles came to America. there is virtually no paper trail, most of my >information for the Wagners comes from vaguely remembered family stories. Charles >is a great grandfather of mine. > >regards, >Cornelia > > > > > > > >********* >Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html >********* > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Dorothy, what help are you looking for? Did you get your information from FamilySearch? bob gillis Stewartdor@aol.com wrote: >Researching REBHOLZ and MEMMER > >REBHOLZ, ELIAS born September 12, 1810 in Grafenhausen and christened in >Ramberg, Pfalz > >ELIAS' S PARENTS were Philippi Rebholz and Magdalenae Koch who married >January 22, 1810 in Annweiller. They lived in Grafenhausen, a small hamlet near >Annweiller. > >ELIAS'S BROTHERS & SISTERS (all christened in Annweiller) >Joseph Rebholz b. 1813 >Barbara Rebholz b. 1816 >Laurence Rebholz b. 1820 >Ludovicus (Louis or Ludwig) Rebholz b. 1822 >Susanna Rebholz b. 1825 >Michael Rebholz b. 1829 > >ELIAS Married APPOLONIA MEMMER who was born in Gossersweiler in 1817 > >APPOLONIA'S PARENTS were Peter Memmer (a farmer) and Jacobina Memmer > >APPOLONIA'S BROTHERS & SISTERS (all christened in Gosserweiler: >Johannes Jacob Memmer b. 1830 ) >Sebastian Memmer b. 1824 > Margaret Memmer b. 1819 >Maria Eva Memmer b. 1815 > Anna Maria Memmer b. 1821 >Barbara Memmer b. 1822 >George Joseph Memmer b. 1813 > >ELIAS REBHOLZ arrived in New York City in 1839 and lived on the West Side of >Manhattan. On his passenger list his occupation is listed as "Baker." > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. >

Researching REBHOLZ and MEMMER REBHOLZ, ELIAS born September 12, 1810 in Grafenhausen and christened in Ramberg, Pfalz ELIAS' S PARENTS were Philippi Rebholz and Magdalenae Koch who married January 22, 1810 in Annweiller. They lived in Grafenhausen, a small hamlet near Annweiller. ELIAS'S BROTHERS & SISTERS (all christened in Annweiller) Joseph Rebholz b. 1813 Barbara Rebholz b. 1816 Laurence Rebholz b. 1820 Ludovicus (Louis or Ludwig) Rebholz b. 1822 Susanna Rebholz b. 1825 Michael Rebholz b. 1829 ELIAS Married APPOLONIA MEMMER who was born in Gossersweiler in 1817 APPOLONIA'S PARENTS were Peter Memmer (a farmer) and Jacobina Memmer APPOLONIA'S BROTHERS & SISTERS (all christened in Gosserweiler: Johannes Jacob Memmer b. 1830 ) Sebastian Memmer b. 1824 Margaret Memmer b. 1819 Maria Eva Memmer b. 1815 Anna Maria Memmer b. 1821 Barbara Memmer b. 1822 George Joseph Memmer b. 1813 ELIAS REBHOLZ arrived in New York City in 1839 and lived on the West Side of Manhattan. On his passenger list his occupation is listed as "Baker." Any help would be greatly appreciated. Dorothy

I apologise for the duplicate post. I forgot to fill in the subject line. I am researching several unrelated ancestors in the Pfalz. each of them give their birthplace as Bavaria, but they were from the Pfalz area of Germany they are; Jacob and Christopher Dunheiffer. first, what spelling would their name be in Germany? would it be Dunhoff? I can find very little regarding the name as I have it. Jacob was born about 1804 in Bavaria. we know little of his time in Germany beyond this, except that he came to America sometime before 1840. Christopher is likely to be his brother, also born in the period 1800-1810, and living in the same town as Jacob, which is Cambridge, Ohio, U.S.A. Jacob is my fiance's ancestor. Christen Ultsch, aka Christopher. he was born about 1833 in Bavaria. we know little of his time in Germany except that he left on the Weser or Wessler in 1872 and arrived in America on 20 Jul 1872. he settled in Erie, Pennsylvania. he is my late husband\'s ancestor. Johann(es) Weyrauch. he was born about 1785 and says on his immigration record that he was born in Bavaria and was from Bergzabern, Spire, Bavaria. I contacted the archives in Spire and they couldn't find anything on him. he died in 1848 in the area of Johnstown, Pennsylvania and there is little in the way of a record for him. his immigration says he left Havre de Grace on 3 Apr 1831 and arrived in New York on 15 May 1831. he is my ancestor. if anyone can give me guidance to tracing these people in Germany, I would greatly appreciate it. their christening/baptism records are not in the International Genealogical Index at FamilySearch.org as far as I can tell. I also have a Charles Wagner, b. abt 1855 Poland or Rusia son of German parennt(s) Anton and Thecla Wagner, but I do not know where they came from. they left Germany around the time of the civil war, settled in Poland or Russia, removed to England and Charles came to America. there is virtually no paper trail, most of my information for the Wagners comes from vaguely remembered family stories. Charles is a great grandfather of mine. regards, Cornelia

I am researching several unrelated ancestors in the Pfalz. each of them give their birthplace as Bavaria, but they were from the Pfalz area of Germany they are; Jacob and Christopher Dunheiffer. first, what spelling would their name be in Germany? would it be Dunhoff? I can find very little regarding the name as I have it. Jacob was born about 1804 in Bavaria. we know little of his time in Germany beyond this, except that he came to America sometime before 1840. Christopher is likely to be his brother, also born in the period 1800-1810, and living in the same town as Jacob, which is Cambridge, Ohio, U.S.A. Jacob is my fiance's ancestor. Christen Ultsch, aka Christopher. he was born about 1833 in Bavaria. we know little of his time in Germany except that he left on the Weser or Wessler in 1872 and arrived in America on 20 Jul 1872. he settled in Erie, Pennsylvania. he is my late husband\'s ancestor. Johann(es) Weyrauch. he was born about 1785 and says on his immigration record that he was born in Bavaria and was from Bergzabern, Spire, Bavaria. I contacted the archives in Spire and they couldn't find anything on him. he died in 1848 in the area of Johnstown, Pennsylvania and there is little in the way of a record for him. his immigration says he left Havre de Grace on 3 Apr 1831 and arrived in New York on 15 May 1831. he is my ancestor. if anyone can give me guidance to tracing these people in Germany, I would greatly appreciate it. their christening/baptism records are not in the International Genealogical Index at FamilySearch.org as far as I can tell. I also have a Charles Wagner, b. abt 1855 Poland or Rusia son of German parennt(s) Anton and Thecla Wagner, but I do not know where they came from. they left Germany around the time of the civil war, settled in Poland or Russia, removed to England and Charles came to America. there is virtually no paper trail, most of my information for the Wagners comes from vaguely remembered family stories. Charles is a great grandfather of mine. regards, Cornelia

Thank you so much!!! I appreciate anything that might be of help Mary Beth. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Beth Michaels" <50below@pobox.mtaonline.net> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Graf Family Posting Al, I don't think this will really be of any help to you, but you never know. And I don't know where Ensheim is. But . . . In my research on the Catholic records from Klingenmünster, north of Bad Bergzabern, I have come across two Grafs. There may be many more. I don't know, since that is not one of my family names I have been researching. 1. Franz Graff, probably born before 1769. On 31 July 1789 he was the godfather at the baptism of Franz Rippon (one of mine). It's an interesting entry because he had quite a title, which I translated (from the Latin) crudely as: "The Noble, Magnanimus, Benificent, Vigilant Lord [some important sounding rank] in the Military." 2. Ludwig Grafft, probably born before 1702. On 6 October 1716 he was the godfather at the baptism of Anna Maria Mercktel. The godmother was also named Anna Maria Mercktel, and it is possible, but not sure, that they were betrothed at the time. Marybeth Michaels ----- Original Message ----- > Looking for Johannes Frederick Graf family in Ensheim, > Alzey-worms,Rhineland-Pflaz now I think.He was born abt. 1795 m. abt. > 1818 Anna Margaret (Baum ?) had 10 children including my ancestor Joseph > Justus Graf b. 1838. Came to America in 1841 > to New Orleans and down rfiver to Wabash Co.,Ill. Thanks. Al Gibbs. ********* Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wilhelm, I have no idea when or where records for Gossersweiler were made before 1732. But I can say that a few decades earlier Louis XIV's armies marched into the Pfalz and burned a lot of churches and other things. (Those that hadn't already been burned down in the Thirty Years' War.) A lot of records went up in smoke. Many churches did not restart records until quite a while later. I have no idea if that happened in Gossersweiler. One person wrote and said the church wasn't open until 1732. It may have been new. Or it may have been rebuilt. Records are burned up in every war. The current wars are no different. And it is still disturbing to me that history is being destroyed. Somehow, I can't help but think that we should know better by now. I guess it is just the way of the world. At least I have the satisfaction of knowing that if a bunch of genealogists were fighting, they probably wouldn't burn valuable records up! Marybeth ----- Original Message ----- Does anybody have an idea where the Catholics of Gossersweiler were > recorded before 1732 ? I am living far from the area and that doesn´t > help me with my search very much. > > Thank you for any clues ! > > Wilhelm

Al, I don't think this will really be of any help to you, but you never know. And I don't know where Ensheim is. But . . . In my research on the Catholic records from Klingenmünster, north of Bad Bergzabern, I have come across two Grafs. There may be many more. I don't know, since that is not one of my family names I have been researching. 1. Franz Graff, probably born before 1769. On 31 July 1789 he was the godfather at the baptism of Franz Rippon (one of mine). It's an interesting entry because he had quite a title, which I translated (from the Latin) crudely as: "The Noble, Magnanimus, Benificent, Vigilant Lord [some important sounding rank] in the Military." 2. Ludwig Grafft, probably born before 1702. On 6 October 1716 he was the godfather at the baptism of Anna Maria Mercktel. The godmother was also named Anna Maria Mercktel, and it is possible, but not sure, that they were betrothed at the time. Marybeth Michaels ----- Original Message ----- > Looking for Johannes Frederick Graf family in Ensheim, > Alzey-worms,Rhineland-Pflaz now I think.He was born abt. 1795 m. abt. > 1818 Anna Margaret (Baum ?) had 10 children including my ancestor Joseph > Justus Graf b. 1838. Came to America in 1841 > to New Orleans and down rfiver to Wabash Co.,Ill. Thanks. Al Gibbs.

Dennis Kastens may have an answer as he is the expert on that general area and published several books covering it. My last contact information for him was DAKASTENS@aol.com and Dennis A. Kastens 5101 Kings Park Drive St. Louis, MO 63129 314-892-0888 phone website: http://www.kastensinc.com/neuhart/ Pryse At 08:01 AM 9/29/2006, you wrote: >Wilhelm P. Kemendics wrote: > > >Dear Listers ! > > > >Does anybody have an idea where the Catholics of Gossersweiler were > >recorded before 1732 ? I am living far from the area and that doesn't > >help me with my search very much. > > >I was waiting for another response before replying but there was only >one non-repsonse. > >I think that the Catholic Church in Gossersweiler did not exist before >1732, that Gossersweiler was settled or founded in 1732 or that the >church books before then were destroyed. > >The church might have been in another town. Towns around Gossersweiler >are Hauenstein, Annweiler , Silz, (quite small) and Völkersweiler. Do >a place search in the FHL Catalogue for them and see if RC records prior >to 1732 exist there. > >bob gillis > > >********* >Information for list members: >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html >********* > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the >word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.9/458 - Release Date: 9/27/2006

There are no records for the Catholics of Gossersweiler before 1732! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilhelm P. Kemendics" <w.kemendics@gmx.at> To: <PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:56 PM Subject: [Pfalz] Gossersweiler > Dear Listers ! > > Does anybody have an idea where the Catholics of Gossersweiler were > recorded before 1732 ? I am living far from the area and that doesn´t > help me with my search very much. > > Thank you for any clues ! > > Wilhelm > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

wmagibbs@peoplepc.com wrote: >Looking for Johannes Frederick Graf family in Ensheim, Alzey-worms,Rhineland-Pflaz now I think. He was born abt. 1795 m. abt. >1818 Anna Margaret (Baum ?) had 10 children including my ancestor Joseph Justus Graf b. 1838. Came to America in 1841 >to New Orleans and down rfiver to Wabash Co.,Ill. Thanks. Al Gibbs. > Was he or Anna or Joseph Justis alive in the 1880 Census and where were they living? How do you knowthat he was born in Ensheim, Alzey-worms Also Illinois is up river from New Orleans.and I think his name would have been Johann Freiderick Graf. Johannes is usually used when his prename and common name are the same Johan. Ensheim now is part of Alzey

Wilhelm P. Kemendics wrote: >Dear Listers ! > >Does anybody have an idea where the Catholics of Gossersweiler were >recorded before 1732 ? I am living far from the area and that doesn't >help me with my search very much. > I was waiting for another response before replying but there was only one non-repsonse. I think that the Catholic Church in Gossersweiler did not exist before 1732, that Gossersweiler was settled or founded in 1732 or that the church books before then were destroyed. The church might have been in another town. Towns around Gossersweiler are Hauenstein, Annweiler , Silz, (quite small) and Völkersweiler. Do a place search in the FHL Catalogue for them and see if RC records prior to 1732 exist there. bob gillis

Dear Listers ! Does anybody have an idea where the Catholics of Gossersweiler were recorded before 1732 ? I am living far from the area and that doesn´t help me with my search very much. Thank you for any clues ! Wilhelm

Looking for Johannes Frederick Graf family in Ensheim, Alzey-worms,Rhineland-Pflaz now I think.He was born abt. 1795 m. abt. 1818 Anna Margaret (Baum ?) had 10 children including my ancestor Joseph Justus Graf b. 1838. Came to America in 1841 to New Orleans and down rfiver to Wabash Co.,Ill. Thanks. Al Gibbs.

I have an ancestor who gave his place of birth ( in abt 1689 )as Oberpfalz..Should I be looking for his birth in Bavaria? He married in Baden. Yvonne

Yes James Chapman and Columbia Ann Thrash's daughter, Alice May (Allie) Chapman is my maternal GGGrandmother. Allie married Albinas Love. Jim >From: Tom Chapman <SurfCityTom@socal.rr.com> >Reply-To: pfalz@rootsweb.com >To: pfalz@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Pfalz, Bavaria and France >Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:34:59 -0700 > ><<Are you in relation to the WV Chapman's.>> > >Absolutely! Are you? > >Jim > > > >********* >Information for list members: >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html >********* > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Judy. It sounds like fun. --Marybeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@suscom.net> >I went to Speyer at the end of May '06. It is a beautiful small city of > about 40,000. Many of its people speak english. I had no trouble at the > archives and found the women there to be very helpful. You do need an > appointment to be able to obtain any records. It cost me 11 Euros for the > copies I got. Well worth it. I found that a cousin, whom I thought was > unmarried, turned out to have been married and that her spouse died soon > after, without leaving children. > I hope you get to Speyer too. The Domstadt (Catherdal where they crowned > the Kings) is grand. Judy Christopher (nee Muller/Mueller)

I went to Speyer at the end of May '06. It is a beautiful small city of about 40,000. Many of its people speak english. I had no trouble at the archives and found the women there to be very helpful. You do need an appointment to be able to obtain any records. It cost me 11 Euros for the copies I got. Well worth it. I found that a cousin, whom I thought was unmarried, turned out to have been married and that her spouse died soon after, without leaving children. I hope you get to Speyer too. The Domstadt (Catherdal where they crowned the Kings) is grand. Judy Christopher (nee Muller/Mueller) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Beth Michaels" <50below@pobox.mtaonline.net> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Pfalz, Bavaria and France > Judy, > > Thanks for the idea. If I ever get near Speyer, I will try this. Where > did > you actually go, and what if you don't speak German? > > Marybeth > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@suscom.net> > To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:14 AM > Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Pfalz, Bavaria and France > > >> My Greatgramdfather and Grandfather immigrated from Speyer in 1883. This >> past spring I went to visit and had an opportunity to go to the Archives >> there. The information I received was just amazing. Allowing me to >> trace >> my family back to 1633. >> I wish you good luck in finding your family. LDS Library has most of the >> BDMs for the Pfalz. However, I had great gaps in the family and was able >> to >> put it together in Speyer. Judy Christopher > > > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Tom, Are you in relation to the WV Chapman's. Jim >From: Tom Chapman <SurfCityTom@socal.rr.com> >Reply-To: pfalz@rootsweb.com >To: pfalz@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Pfalz, Bavaria and France >Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:27:50 -0700 > >Judy Christopher wrote: > ><<My Greatgramdfather and Grandfather immigrated from Speyer in 1883.>> > >F.Y.I. - Speyer was where they kept the emigration records - not >necessarily where people lived. > > > > > >********* >Information for list members: >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html >********* > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message