Wilhelm, What web site did you use to read the filmed entries for the Reformed baptisms and marriages for the Lutheran Freckenfeld parish? You said it wasn't online at the IGI website. Marge

Hello Listers ! I have been able to read the filmed entries for the REFORMED baptisms and marriages for the Lutheran Freckenfeld parish. This part is not online at the IGI website - 1656 to abt. 1730 . I only did it by error because I´ve thought they were early Lutheran entries - now, maybe somebody has any use for them. Wilhelm

Google suggests a spelling of "Zimowiska", no doubt still the Polish spelling. Don Hickman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill & Barb" <bbg@mts.net> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: [Pfalz] polish town names > Does anyone know the German equivalent town for the Polish town > Zmyowiska? I have found others but not this one. thanks. > > Bill Gessner > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 10/20/2006 > > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone know the German equivalent town for the Polish town Zmyowiska? I have found others but not this one. thanks. Bill Gessner -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 10/20/2006

Glen, The best way I've found to find those elusive records is to use the proximity feature of ShtetlSeeker and check the online LDS Family History Library catalog at FamilySearch for the Evangelishe villages. At 12:00 AM 10/23/2006, you wrote: >From: "Glen Fine" <gefine@comcast.net> >Subject: [Pfalz] Bendorf on the Rhine protestant church records >To: <PFALZ@rootsweb.com> > >LDS shows only Catholic church records for Bendorf. Does anyone know >if perhaps the evangelische records are included in records for some >other town? > >Glen Fine >Sacramento, California

When in the Family History Library catalog try querying "Keyword". You may come up with another location for your Bendorf records. Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: <pfalz-request@rootsweb.com> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:00 PM Subject: PFALZ Digest, Vol 1, Issue 15 > > > Plain digests are sent to users with all posts listed in one long email. > For most subscribers, MIME digests will appear with all posts as > individual attachments. The default digest delivery is Plain. If you want > your digest in MIME, please write me directly: Pfalz-admin@rootsweb.com > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides > with the message subject to which you are replying. > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ********* > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Bendorf on the Rhine protestant church records (Glen Fine) > 2. Re: Bendorf on the Rhine protestant church records > (Lil43Babe62568@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:07:46 -0700 > From: "Glen Fine" <gefine@comcast.net> > Subject: [Pfalz] Bendorf on the Rhine protestant church records > To: <PFALZ@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <005401c6f5fc$990170d0$0300a8c0@evolutionx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > LDS shows only Catholic church records for Bendorf. Does anyone know if > perhaps the evangelische records are included in records for some other > town? > > Glen Fine > Sacramento, California > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:13:00 EDT > From: Lil43Babe62568@aol.com > Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Bendorf on the Rhine protestant church records > To: pfalz@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <3ae.b49ecca.326d46ec@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > My great grandparents last name was Rine (Rhine. Rhyne,Rein, Reinau) > They > belonged to the United Brethren Church > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PFALZ list administrator, send an email to > PFALZ-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PFALZ mailing list, send an email to > PFALZ@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PFALZ Digest, Vol 1, Issue 15 > ************************************ >

My great grandparents last name was Rine (Rhine. Rhyne,Rein, Reinau) They belonged to the United Brethren Church

LDS shows only Catholic church records for Bendorf. Does anyone know if perhaps the evangelische records are included in records for some other town? Glen Fine Sacramento, California

My ancestor came from Germany (possibly from the Pfalz-L area which covers the Palatine or Pfalz region or from Baden?). He arrived on the ship "NEPTUNE" at the port of Philadelphia 4 October 1752 from Rotterdam. It is believed that my ancestor "Johann Georg JUNG" (b: about 1730/1740; d: 1789 Concord, Mecklenburg, North Carolina) arrived with a friend "Hans John Michael GOODNIGHT/ GOODKNECHT/GUTKNECHT". They did not remain in Pennsylvania very long as Johnann Georg JUNG/YOUNG appears in a land deed in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina in 1762. It is unknown if he married his wife "Ann" in Germany or if he married in the United States in either Pennsylvania or North Carolina. It is believed most of their children (Andrew, Michael, Jacob, John, Martin, Elizabeth, Mary YOUNG) were born in Mecklenburg Co., North Carolina. By 1800 some of Johann Georg JUNG/YOUNG's children were located in Kentucky and later some moved to Indiana. I am seeking to find where in Germany Johann Georg JUNG/YOUNG was born and possibly names of his parents. I will appreciate any assistance or advice you can give me in this effort. Thank you. Marjorie E. (Young) Birk _mebirk@aol.com_ (mailto:mebirk@aol.com)

At 01:00 AM 10/6/2006, you wrote: >I have a copy of the Nunschweiler Church book from I think its 1728 to 1733. >My people were in the area and I have one marriage from the book. Could >there be more detailed information in Speyer? Have you tried looking further at the microfilmed Church Records from Nunschweiler? They appear to go back into the 1500s. If your family was there, you should be able to gather a lot of information from those. I've successfully traced a number of my German ancestry back to the 15 and 1600s using the microfilmed records at my local Family History Center. The only time I wrote to Speyer was when one of the books I was looking at was filmed with the binding partially closed so part of the entry wasn't visible. I wrote to Speyer for 3 pages and got those in a couple of months. They were fairly expensive as I recall and that was even with me providing the exact dates. They were the exact pages I had looked at but with the page fully opened so I could see all the writing. Pam http://www.pamsgenealogy.net

I was in Speyer this past spring. The only way is to go and have an appointment to get your records. I did this and was able to get info on my family dating back to 1685. Judy Christopher (nee Mueller) ----- Original Message ----- From: <Breakness@aol.com> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Pfalz, Bavaria and France >I have a copy of the Nunschweiler Church book from I think its 1728 to >1733. > My people were in the area and I have one marriage from the book. Could > there be more detailed information in Speyer? > Thanks > Laurence Lance > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I have a copy of the Nunschweiler Church book from I think its 1728 to 1733. My people were in the area and I have one marriage from the book. Could there be more detailed information in Speyer? Thanks Laurence Lance

CHANGED ADDRESS polly26@charter.net to polly26@newwavecomm.net Thanks Jack Norwine

Thanks Bob, It is also recommended that surnames be ALL CAPS, so they stand out in a message. In fact the message subject line is recommended by the genealogy community to be formatted as "Firstname LASTNAME; Place; date." On some mail lists, unless you format queries that way, many readers will immediately delete it. (Messages titled such as "Help", "Genealogy", and especially "Re: PFALZ Digest, Vol 1, Issue 8" never make it past the Delete Key.) At 12:00 AM 10/3/2006, you wrote: >From: bob gillis <robertgillis@verizon.net> >Subject: [Pfalz] Subjects and message composition was [Re: PFALZ > Digest, Vol 1, Issue 8] >To: fenenga@connpoint.net, pfalz@rootsweb.com > >Some suggestions: > >1. Do not use the Digest reference as a subject line: use the >original which was: > Re: [Pfalz] Dunheiffer, Ultsch, Weyrauch, Wagner > >2. Do not put several different surnames in the same query. After one >ot two back and forths, trying to keep the different names and people >straight in a long message gets quite difficult. Put one famaily/surname >in each message. > >bob gillis

Hi, Marybeth - "My" Memmer family also had a daughter named Margaretha; she was born in 1819 and lived in Gossersweiler. Her father, Peter, was from Stein and her mother, Jacobine (nee Kerner) Memmer was from Lug. Years later, when Jacobine was widowed she moved to New York City and is buried in our family grave in Calvary. Last September my husband and I spent six days in Annweiler and visited the towns of Gossersweiler, Ramberg and Grafenhausen, among others. They're all very quaint charming towns. I swore that once I had seen them I would never go back but I now hope that someday I'm able to return. Dorothy

Some suggestions: 1. Do not use the Digest reference as a subject line: use the original which was: Re: [Pfalz] Dunheiffer, Ultsch, Weyrauch, Wagner 2. Do not put several different surnames in the same query. After one ot two back and forths, trying to keep the different names and people straight in a long message gets quite difficult. Put one famaily/surname in each message. bob gillis

Dorothy, Probably not yours, but I have one Memmer listed in my file from my research of the Catholic records from Klingenmünster. I researched only my own family names, but many names come up in the records of my own names, and I put them all in my file when I translate the records. So, there may well be more Memmers that I don't know anything about. And they may be in the Reform records too. Margaretha Memmer, probably born before 1825, married to Jacob Hammer. They had a daughter, Elisabeth Hammer, who died on 27 August in 1904 or 1905. Elisabeth and her parents were from the town of Stein. Elisabeth died in the hospital at Klingenmünster and was buried there after receiving the death rites from the priest. Gossersweiler, Stein and Klingenmünster are all quite close to each other. I did not find any Rebholzes, but, again, that doesn't mean they weren't there. Good luck to you. Marybeth Michaels

Bob Gillis asks; > >How did your people spell their surnames and where were they in the 1880 >Census. > >What are the sources of your information? > >Where else have you looked for information? > >bob gillis Jacob Dunheiffer/Dunifer (children went by Dunifer) 1804 Bavaria 1850-1860 Guernsey, OH birth date from 1850 census. birth place from daughter Martha Dunifer Moore's census records. Johannes Weyrauch/Weihrauch/Wyrough b. abt 1785 said to be Scheichen, Bavaria. d. abt 1848 Pennsylvania either Centre or Cambria Co. b. from naturalization record d. from itemization of probate/will I am under the assumption that he was Catholic, as his son Michael was, but I don't know for certain. naturalization transcript of Johannes Weyrauch (original available to view at PA State Archives, linked to Centre Co., PA USGenWeb site under "naturalizations" note "Spier" Speyer, "Berzaber" Bergzabern, "Scheichen"...??? perhaps Schweigen? Pennsylvania\ Centre Co., n/ To the Honorable Thomas Burnside, and his associate Judges of the Court of Common Pleas, to and for said Centre county The petition of Johan Weyrauch a native of the Kingdom of Bavaria & District of Spier & Canton Berzaber and now an inhabitant at Centre county, in the state of Pennsylvania, respectfully represents That he sailed from the *port of Haver the Grace on the third day of April 1831, and arrived in the city of New York in the United States of America on the 15th day of May ensuing that he was born in the Village of Scheichen and is upwards of fourty seven years of age and that he was born a subject of the Kingdom of Bavaria and owes allegiance to Ludwick the 2d King of Bavaria. that he is now settled in the said county of Centre, state of Pennsylvania, and that it is his Bone fide, his intention to become a citizen of the United States, after having complied with the acts of Congress, in such case made and provided. Your petitioner therefore prays this honorable Court to permit, this his declaration of intention to become a citizen of the United States, to be filed on record in the said Court, he the said Johan Weyrauch renouncing all allegiance to any foreign prince and Potentate whatsoever particularly to Ludwick 2d King of Bavaria. Sworn and subscribed in ) open Court this 30 day of > August 1832 ) James Gilliland Proth. Johannes Weijr__ch (or Weyr__ch with an oomlat) I assume this was filed in Bellefonte, as that is where Johannes was when his son Jacob was born in 1832. Christen/Christian/Christopher Ultsch/Ulsch/Utsch b. abt 1833 Bavaria d. aft 1910 Monoma Co., Iowa birth and death data from various census records and his daughter Margaret Ultsch Freeman's census records and death record. Charles Wagner I know of no variants at this time, though Carl is probably the spelling of his name as a baby. b. abt 1855 Poland or Russia d. said to be 3 Aug 1894, but there is no record of it. birth-his marriage record and the birth record of his only child. both claim he was b. in Poland. later medical records claim he was b. in Russia. death-Massachusetts form for a death record that was neither filled out or filed. it's still in my cousin's possession John Hause/House b. abt 1793, Pennsylvania d. probably 1851-1871, probably Ontario, Canada he is in the 1851 census with his wife, sons, a daughter in law and two grand daughters. birth and death 1851, 1871 Waterloo, Ontario, Canada census John George Schaeffer b. abt 1814 Germany d. aft 1871, probably before 1881, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada birth 1851, 1871 census we don't know the maiden names of the wives of John House and George Schaeffer as yet, but they are German as well. I think that's everybody...except the Ledwitchs/Ludwigs who stopped over in Ireland for 100 years or more before coming to America. so, only one of them (Christen Ultsch) was in the 1880 census. the rest of of them died well before that. some of their children made it into the 1880, but not all of them. I did contact the Speyer archives and the Massachusetts archives. still working with the MA archives. oh, and the archivist of the Waterloo, Ontario, Canada Lutheran church, he's supposed to reply to me some time this month. let's see...Lloyd's of London to find out if Charles had seaman's records, the British censi for Anton, Thecla and Charles Wagner to no avail, Castle Garden's which only discloses the Ultsch's so far. various states and nations at USGenweb and WorldGenweb. MA vital records office to no avail. that's all I can think of at this late hour, but I'm quite certain there's more...oh, the Misty Cove historical museum gave me the data on the ships I know Charles worked on. the national archives in Washington, DC gave me Charles' pay records and medical records. and I contacted one of the islands in Eastern Canada that holds shipping records...so long ago that I can't recall the island (Prince Edward, perhaps?) or the name of the society. and I was a member of the German historical association in England for a year but did not continue my membership...oh, and very, very early on in my research I posted a query about Charles in a German query quarterly, the name eludes me but I think it started with an F and was a fairly short word. that was when Rootsweb was still on the BBS system...or perhaps before BBS's. so I've made a number of foray's into various forms of research over the years. have had to do it as cheaply as possible, though the query in the German paper cost me nearly $50.00. I was feeling a bit desperate at the time. maybe some day it will come back. I can't and don't splurge very often. I've been on the web since 1991 steady, looking at alot of (but not all) websites. couldn't list all of the one's I've been to. went to several new (to me) sites today. most of my research now is online as I have settled in a small town with little available beyond a few fhc's and the net. haven't been ordering 'films. the new fees and higher gas prices has cut out my skipping over to the fhc, which is short of volunteers. so that's about it. hope it's helpful Cornelia

I've been in touch with the list manager of the German (not Rootsweb) Bavaria list, and he has been very kind in advising me of two things. he states; "But "Dunheiffer" or "Dunhoff" are not known. I suppose, that this mean in German "Tanh?er" or "Thanhofer" - the pronunciation is in German in some way similar to the American "Danheiffer"." he also sent me to an interesting site which may help someone else on the Pfalz lists. http://christoph.stoepel.net/Geogen-localized-en.aspx it doesn't show where people were then, but if you're looking for where someone may be from today, it can help. now if I could find one for Alsace... I hope this information is of help to someone. it is good to know about the D/Th interchange. there are others, I know, but they don't come to mind at the moment. Cornelia

I have a DOS- based CD of the books which I purchased years ago. In my XP computer I cannot get the CD to run. Any suggestions??