which ones didn't allow their records to be copied? I can't find a single trace of my people in FamilySearch's IGI. yet he gives his home as Schweigen, Bergzabern, Speyer. of course, if his home is not the same place as his birth, I'm in some trouble...but his children show up as born either in Germany or France, so they should most likely show up in Schweigen, but they aren't in the IGI, either-and I left the search to the whole of Germany, not focusing on any town or state. I haven't looked for everyone in the family, but father, eldest son and youngest daughter don't show up in the IGI. going off to check a few more of the family. any guidence appreciated... Cornelia
Fantastic! 2 Chronicles 15:5-6 -----Original Message----- From: pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Don Hickman Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:42 PM To: pfalz@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Mertesheim, Ebertsheim, Monsheim If I may butt in please, I would like to offer the history of my ancestral village, à propos your question about modern maps and names: THE VILLAGE NAME: Year - Name 724 - The village was mentioned under the name Morinsheim authentically for the first time 803 - Moringesheim 1301 - Mornssheim 1304 - Merensheim 1468 - Moertzheim 1491 - Mornssheim (like 1301) 1585 - Merentzheim 1787 - Moernzheim 1828 - Moerzheim and ever after In the summer of 1999, they had a festival recognizing the town's 1,275th anniversary! Regards, Don Hickman (HECKMANN) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bette McIntosh" <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> To: <flach@charter.net> Cc: <PFALZ@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Mertesheim, Ebertsheim, Monsheim > Rudy, Does the particular atlas, of which you speak, include historic > locations (town names) or perhaps that is not too much of an issue/concern > when it comes to locations in Germany. In other words, would one expect > to > be able to locate historic towns in the current edition of the > "Deutschland > ADAC MaxiAtlas"; villages that were in existence ca. 1800-1850? > > Thank you, > Bette > > > Hello List, > If anybody wants a really GREAT atlas, I would recommend the following > which > can be purchased over the Internet directly from the publisher: > Deutschland ADAC MaxiAtlas > > I only ever found one single little town, which actually had formerly been > a > farm, that was not listed. It contains an alphabetical listing with tons > of > detailed maps. It is definitely worth the few extra dollars to get the > large sized version over the smaller one. > > Good hunting, > Rudy Flack > > > > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ********* Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Don - you have just performed a great service, so glad you butted in! I have been trying to tell people that names, for people and places, change over time for 20 years now. There just is no single "correct" spelling, at least not until around 100 years ago in most places. You've done that very well with your chronology! I've printed it out to show to the doubters. Maureen Schoenky (Schoenke)
Joel, The records from Speyer can be found at www.familysearch.org. I have found most of my Family in these records. Then I went to Speyer and confirmed all that I read. Most of the Churches have kept their records and allowed them to be put on film. The land archives in Speyer are not on line but are a wonderful source too. Remember that Speyer is in the Pfalz and at one time was part of the Palatinate. Good luck, Judy Christopher (nee Mueller from Speyer-am-Rhein) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel A. Ohmer" <gooup@charter.net> To: <PFALZ@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 7:15 PM Subject: [Pfalz] Speyer church records >I am trying to locate specific records from the marriage, birth and death > records from Speyer. Are these records available online? > > Joel A. Ohmer > www.ohmer.org > > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Yes, Ohmer is the family which I am researching. Does the IGI include the Speyer records? -----Original Message----- From: pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of SARAH ADAMS Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:01 PM To: pfalz@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Speyer church records Are you research Ohmers? I have seen a variation of that name before as Omer. I have seen a few records in the IGI via the LDS site. I have a number of Allmaras, Lemmerich, Schotthoefer and Adam's that married or had their children baptized there. Regards, Sarah Adams "Joel A. Ohmer" <gooup@charter.net> wrote: I am trying to locate specific records from the marriage, birth and death records from Speyer. Are these records available online? Joel A. Ohmer www.ohmer.org ********* Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********* Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
If I may butt in please, I would like to offer the history of my ancestral village, à propos your question about modern maps and names: THE VILLAGE NAME: Year - Name 724 - The village was mentioned under the name Morinsheim authentically for the first time 803 - Moringesheim 1301 - Mornssheim 1304 - Merensheim 1468 - Moertzheim 1491 - Mornssheim (like 1301) 1585 - Merentzheim 1787 - Moernzheim 1828 - Moerzheim and ever after In the summer of 1999, they had a festival recognizing the town's 1,275th anniversary! Regards, Don Hickman (HECKMANN) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bette McIntosh" <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> To: <flach@charter.net> Cc: <PFALZ@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Mertesheim, Ebertsheim, Monsheim > Rudy, Does the particular atlas, of which you speak, include historic > locations (town names) or perhaps that is not too much of an issue/concern > when it comes to locations in Germany. In other words, would one expect > to > be able to locate historic towns in the current edition of the > "Deutschland > ADAC MaxiAtlas"; villages that were in existence ca. 1800-1850? > > Thank you, > Bette > > > Hello List, > If anybody wants a really GREAT atlas, I would recommend the following > which > can be purchased over the Internet directly from the publisher: > Deutschland ADAC MaxiAtlas > > I only ever found one single little town, which actually had formerly been > a > farm, that was not listed. It contains an alphabetical listing with tons > of > detailed maps. It is definitely worth the few extra dollars to get the > large sized version over the smaller one. > > Good hunting, > Rudy Flack > > > > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Rudy, Does the particular atlas, of which you speak, include historic locations (town names) or perhaps that is not too much of an issue/concern when it comes to locations in Germany. In other words, would one expect to be able to locate historic towns in the current edition of the "Deutschland ADAC MaxiAtlas"; villages that were in existence ca. 1800-1850? Thank you, Bette Hello List, If anybody wants a really GREAT atlas, I would recommend the following which can be purchased over the Internet directly from the publisher: Deutschland ADAC MaxiAtlas I only ever found one single little town, which actually had formerly been a farm, that was not listed. It contains an alphabetical listing with tons of detailed maps. It is definitely worth the few extra dollars to get the large sized version over the smaller one. Good hunting, Rudy Flack
A number of my lines I have also found in the Speyer listings on familysearch.org. Many of them lived in the nearby villages of Otterstadt, Waldsee, Berghausen and Heiligenstein. I have had some troubles with a couple of marriages for I cannot seem to find them in neither Otterstadt or Speyer. Both individuals were from Otterstadt. Judy Christopher <ajuntasc@comcast.net> wrote: Joel, The records from Speyer can be found at www.familysearch.org. I have found most of my Family in these records. Then I went to Speyer and confirmed all that I read. Most of the Churches have kept their records and allowed them to be put on film. The land archives in Speyer are not on line but are a wonderful source too. Remember that Speyer is in the Pfalz and at one time was part of the Palatinate. Good luck, Judy Christopher (nee Mueller from Speyer-am-Rhein) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel A. Ohmer" To: Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 7:15 PM Subject: [Pfalz] Speyer church records >I am trying to locate specific records from the marriage, birth and death > records from Speyer. Are these records available online? > > Joel A. Ohmer > www.ohmer.org > > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ********* Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I am trying to locate specific records from the marriage, birth and death records from Speyer. Are these records available online? Joel A. Ohmer www.ohmer.org
Are you research Ohmers? I have seen a variation of that name before as Omer. I have seen a few records in the IGI via the LDS site. I have a number of Allmaras, Lemmerich, Schotthoefer and Adam's that married or had their children baptized there. Regards, Sarah Adams "Joel A. Ohmer" <gooup@charter.net> wrote: I am trying to locate specific records from the marriage, birth and death records from Speyer. Are these records available online? Joel A. Ohmer www.ohmer.org ********* Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Apologies to all but I have missed seeing the initial e-mail that prompted the following response concerning Bad Durkheim, Rhein-Pfalz. Who is it that is seeking family history information regarding the town Bad Durkheim? I have looked through the Pfalz-L mail list archives and I could not identify the original poster. I have research interests in the Bad Durkheim area and would not want to miss the opportunity to contact the person who posted the original query. Thank you, Bette. ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob gillis" <robertgillis@verizon.net> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Mertesheim, Ebertsheim, Monsheim >Bad Durkheim is quite a distance to the north east from Permasens: >Mertesheim & Ebertsheim are in the county Bad Dürkeim and Monsheim is is >the county Alzey-Worms. >Google for genealogy societies in those towns: Bad Dürkeim, Alzey and >Worms.
Rudy Flack wrote: >Hello List, >If anybody wants a really GREAT atlas, I would recommend the following which >can be purchased over the Internet directly from the publisher: >Deutschland ADAC MaxiAtlas > >I only ever found one single little town, which actually had formerly been a >farm, that was not listed. It contains an alphabetical listing with tons of >detailed maps. It is definitely worth the few extra dollars to get the >large sized version over the smaller one. > Do you have a url for the publisher? If so does it tell cost, how to order from the USA and methods of payment accepted? bob gillis
Re: ADAC Maxi Atlas of Germany http://www.travelessentials.com has them. $24 + $8 shipping UPS Ground > > Do you have a url for the publisher? If so does it tell cost, how to > order from the USA and methods of payment accepted? > > bob gillis
Either that or www.michelin.com Don Hickman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rudy Flack" <flach@charter.net> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Mertesheim, Ebertsheim, Monsheim Hello List, If anybody wants a really GREAT atlas, I would recommend the following which can be purchased over the Internet directly from the publisher: Deutschland ADAC MaxiAtlas I only ever found one single little town, which actually had formerly been a farm, that was not listed. It contains an alphabetical listing with tons of detailed maps. It is definitely worth the few extra dollars to get the large sized version over the smaller one. Good hunting, Rudy Flack -----Original Message----- From: bob gillis [mailto:robertgillis@verizon.net] Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:44 AM To: pfalz@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Mertesheim, Ebertsheim, Monsheim Karen Meng wrote: >Other than on-line maps, I have very little knowledge about the location of >the three towns. I need a basic book on German geography! > If you are doing a lot of German family research a German Road Atlas is a very good investment. they cost around $US25. I have the Hammond Atlas which is IMO, fair. For instance Martesheim is not in the atlas and the coordinates are not the European coordinates but ones developed by the German publisher. Search B&N, Borders, Amazon, Rand-McNally etc for German atlases. Send a message to geo@genealogy.net with the names of the three towns each on a separate line and you will get political and geographical information; > >Thank you for the website for the genealogy society. I am certain that they >will be able to guide me in the right direction. Your suggestion is greatly >appreciated. > Bad Durkheim is quite a distance to the north east from Permasens: Mertesheim & Ebertsheim are in the county Bad Dürkeim and Monsheim is is the county Alzey-Worms. Google for genealogy societies in those towns: Bad Dürkeim, Alzey and Worms. ********* Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello List, If anybody wants a really GREAT atlas, I would recommend the following which can be purchased over the Internet directly from the publisher: Deutschland ADAC MaxiAtlas I only ever found one single little town, which actually had formerly been a farm, that was not listed. It contains an alphabetical listing with tons of detailed maps. It is definitely worth the few extra dollars to get the large sized version over the smaller one. Good hunting, Rudy Flack -----Original Message----- From: bob gillis [mailto:robertgillis@verizon.net] Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:44 AM To: pfalz@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Mertesheim, Ebertsheim, Monsheim Karen Meng wrote: >Other than on-line maps, I have very little knowledge about the location of >the three towns. I need a basic book on German geography! > If you are doing a lot of German family research a German Road Atlas is a very good investment. they cost around $US25. I have the Hammond Atlas which is IMO, fair. For instance Martesheim is not in the atlas and the coordinates are not the European coordinates but ones developed by the German publisher. Search B&N, Borders, Amazon, Rand-McNally etc for German atlases. Send a message to geo@genealogy.net with the names of the three towns each on a separate line and you will get political and geographical information; > >Thank you for the website for the genealogy society. I am certain that they >will be able to guide me in the right direction. Your suggestion is greatly >appreciated. > Bad Durkheim is quite a distance to the north east from Permasens: Mertesheim & Ebertsheim are in the county Bad Dürkeim and Monsheim is is the county Alzey-Worms. Google for genealogy societies in those towns: Bad Dürkeim, Alzey and Worms.
On the Immigration list I received from Baumholder for my GG Wilhelm Pees there was a date 1/14/1848 . Does anyone one know what this date was and was there a time limit from this date that they had to leave ? There are some other names on this listing Grimm , Rousch and my GG grandmother was listed with her maiden name Mettger . I think most of these people left Germany at the same time and settled in Port Washington Ohio . I am trying to find when and where the landed here . Sonny
Excuse me Karen, but when you mistakenly put your query on the B-W mail list I gave you instructions on how to get the map you need. I also told you those villages were clustered about 75 miles NE of Stuttgart. It appears that area is less than 10 miles W of Worms. "You have access to several modern German maps via MapQuest, Expedia, and MultiMap. I find the best access for all German villages to be ShtetlSeeker. See http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/LocTown.asp MapQuest has maps down to the street level. " I also told you the records for your villages have been microfilmed and are available at you local LDS Family History Center. You need to visit your local LDS Family History Center. At 12:00 AM 11/26/2006, you wrote: >From: "Karen Meng" <kmeng@charter.net> >Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Mertesheim, Ebertsheim, Monsheim >To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> > >Other than on-line maps, I have very little knowledge about the location of >the three towns. I need a basic book on German geography! > >Thank you for the website for the genealogy society. I am certain that they >will be able to guide me in the right direction. Your suggestion is greatly >appreciated. > >Karen
Karen Meng wrote: >Other than on-line maps, I have very little knowledge about the location of >the three towns. I need a basic book on German geography! > If you are doing a lot of German family research a German Road Atlas is a very good investment. they cost around $US25. I have the Hammond Atlas which is IMO, fair. For instance Martesheim is not in the atlas and the coordinates are not the European coordinates but ones developed by the German publisher. Search B&N, Borders, Amazon, Rand-McNally etc for German atlases. Send a message to geo@genealogy.net with the names of the three towns each on a separate line and you will get political and geographical information; > >Thank you for the website for the genealogy society. I am certain that they >will be able to guide me in the right direction. Your suggestion is greatly >appreciated. > Bad Durkheim is quite a distance to the north east from Permasens: Mertesheim & Ebertsheim are in the county Bad Dürkeim and Monsheim is is the county Alzey-Worms. Google for genealogy societies in those towns: Bad Dürkeim, Alzey and Worms.
Other than on-line maps, I have very little knowledge about the location of the three towns. I need a basic book on German geography! Thank you for the website for the genealogy society. I am certain that they will be able to guide me in the right direction. Your suggestion is greatly appreciated. Karen -----Original Message----- From: pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Swovick Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 2:57 PM To: pfalz@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Mertesheim, Ebertsheim, Monsheim Karen, Do you know where in Pfalz these towns are located? My ancestors were from Hauenstein, the closest "big" town was Pirmasens. There is a genealogical society in Pirmasens, and they had transcribed the Latin church entries of the area into present day German. I was able to write an e-mail in English to a historian there, she did not pay me for her work, but, I did buy the transcribed church records, which had been published. She did look up my 3 grgrandfather's baptism record, which helped me to zero in on Hauenstein. Maybe they could send you in the right direction for your towns or know of a genealogical society which can help you. The web address is: http://www.genealogie-in-pirmasens.de . Good luck. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Meng" <kmeng@charter.net> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Mertesheim, Ebertsheim, Monsheim > Yes, I have Googled the place names, but I was hoping to hear from someone > who had first-hand knowledge, or who could tell me a little about the > history of the area during the early 1800s. Also, are there any local > historical centers that do research for that specific area? What Lutheran > church served Monsheim? Why did the son attend church in Ebertsheim? Was > there no Lutheran church in Mertesheim? In other words, I was hoping to > correspond with someone else who had done research in the area and might > have a few tips. > > Karen > > -----Original Message----- > From: pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of bob gillis > Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 6:07 AM > To: pfalz@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Mertesheim, Ebertsheim, Monsheim > > > > Karen Meng wrote: > > >Does anyone have information about Mertesheim, Ebertsheim, and/or Monsheim? > >Our one ancestor was living in Mertesheim and was married at a church in > >Ebertsheim. His father lived in Monsheim. I would like to know about the > >area and the histories of the towns--particularly from 1800 to 1850. > >Surnames include MENG, GILBERT, SCHREIBER, MUENCH, and MUELLER. > > > Have you Googled the place names? > > bob gillis > > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ********* > Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********* Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Karen, Do you know where in Pfalz these towns are located? My ancestors were from Hauenstein, the closest "big" town was Pirmasens. There is a genealogical society in Pirmasens, and they had transcribed the Latin church entries of the area into present day German. I was able to write an e-mail in English to a historian there, she did not pay me for her work, but, I did buy the transcribed church records, which had been published. She did look up my 3 grgrandfather's baptism record, which helped me to zero in on Hauenstein. Maybe they could send you in the right direction for your towns or know of a genealogical society which can help you. The web address is: http://www.genealogie-in-pirmasens.de . Good luck. Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Meng" <kmeng@charter.net> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Mertesheim, Ebertsheim, Monsheim > Yes, I have Googled the place names, but I was hoping to hear from someone > who had first-hand knowledge, or who could tell me a little about the > history of the area during the early 1800s. Also, are there any local > historical centers that do research for that specific area? What Lutheran > church served Monsheim? Why did the son attend church in Ebertsheim? Was > there no Lutheran church in Mertesheim? In other words, I was hoping to > correspond with someone else who had done research in the area and might > have a few tips. > > Karen > > -----Original Message----- > From: pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of bob gillis > Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 6:07 AM > To: pfalz@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Mertesheim, Ebertsheim, Monsheim > > > > Karen Meng wrote: > > >Does anyone have information about Mertesheim, Ebertsheim, and/or Monsheim? > >Our one ancestor was living in Mertesheim and was married at a church in > >Ebertsheim. His father lived in Monsheim. I would like to know about the > >area and the histories of the towns--particularly from 1800 to 1850. > >Surnames include MENG, GILBERT, SCHREIBER, MUENCH, and MUELLER. > > > Have you Googled the place names? > > bob gillis > > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ********* > Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message