Thanks for the tip, Tom. Shall see what my local Family History CEntre can arrange. KAtherine New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Chapman" <SurfCityTom@socal.rr.com> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] GERMANN. Carl amd KOCH Susannah; Meisenheim > Regarding the German church records - I ordered several spools from the > LDS library, and then found I couldn't read them. The script and > handwriting legibility of the early records was baffling. > > Also, for some reason the LDS people were unable to send me the correct > film. It took several tries before I got one out of three spools I was > looking for, and after I saw how difficult the one was to read, I > canceled the other orders. > > Tom > > > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I am looking doe information on FERTIG born in Germany around 1672. Thank you Allen C. Fertig f0895@wmconnect.com

Katherine, >From the Berliner Journal 21 May 1874: GERMANN Carl 15 May 1874 at the home of his son in Waterloo Village, Carl Germann of New Hamburg died at 72 years of age http://www.waterlooogs.ca/Newspapers/BerlinerJournal1873-77Deaths.PDF >From the Berliner Journal 22 Dec 1881: GERMANN Susannah 20 Dec 1881 Susannah Germann, widow of Carl Germann of New Hamburg, died in Waterloo at age of 72 years, 10 months and 8 days http://www.waterlooogs.ca/Newspapers/BerlinerJournal1881Deaths.PDF (note: Present day Kitchener, Ontario was originally named Berlin - the name was changed during WW1) You are correct in assuming New Hamburg (and a large area surrounding) had a considerable number of German settlers. Have you done any research on your Carl Germann and Susannah Koch in Waterloo County, Ontario? The Kitchener Public Library has an extensive collection of local history, perhaps there is a more detailed obituary or biography on Carl Germann. Feel free to contact me off-list if you haven't already gone this route, I'd be happy to have a look for you. Regards, Julie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Katherine O'Regan" <coreg@xtra.co.nz> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] GERMANN. Carl amd KOCH Susannah; Meisenheim > Dear Bob, > Many thanks indeed for all your useful information. > To tell you the truth I cannot remember where I found the date for Carl > GERMANN's birth but the year was 1802 - that was given to me by my former > mother in law some 20 years ago and I presume she had had it passed down to > her.Also the marriage to Susannah KOCH. Charles Frederick seems a very > common name combination. > > > One of the sons was born during the crossing to Canada and he was born in > 1850. New Hamburg is south west of Canada - Encarta Atlas shows it. > > Carl Germanns son Charles Frederick married a Katherine Scott whose father, > William Scott was one of the founding fathers - but with a name like New > Hamburg one presumes that there was considerable German emigration to that > area.This was all we know of him - > > "He was tall and distinguished looking with a striking military bearing, no > doubt acquired by a period of military service in the Army. He received a > good education and was disposed to be strict and businesslike. > > > On arrival in New Hamburg he bought a hotel Also owned and operated a > tannery He was 72 when he died." > > > > I need a marriage certificate which will give me Carl's parentage. > Kind regards, > Katherine > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bob gillis" <robertgillis@verizon.net> > To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:54 AM > Subject: Re: [Pfalz] GERMANN. Carl amd KOCH Susannah; Meisenheim > > > > Katherine O'Regan wrote: > > > >>Hello listers, > >>I am searching for the ancestors of Carl GERMANN b Meisenheim 21st Jan > >>1802 > >> > > > > the only Carl Germann in Family Search is a Charles Frederick Gerrmann > > born 26 JUL 1802 Bad Duerkheim, Pfalz, Bayern > > > >>and Susannah KOCH b Meisenheim ,15 Feb 1810 . > >> > > Susannah Freidericka Koch is in an extracted IGI record: born 15 FEb > > 1810 and Christened 19 Feb 1810 in Evangelisch, Meisenheim, Rheinland, > > Preussen, dau of Hartman Koch and FRIEDERIKA JULIANA ROGOT > > <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=5002 49251303&lds=1&region=8&frompage=99>. > > > > There is no Marriage record on FS for the couple. > > > >>They emigrated to Ontario Canada in 1850 and settled in New Hamburg. They > >>would have been Protestants. Are there any church records that some kind > >>soul could access for me? > >> > > > > What are your sources for the exact birth date for Carl, their 1850 > > emigration and residence in New Hamburg. there is no New Hamburg or > > Hamburg in present day Ontario or as a formerly official name at: > > Canadian Geographical Names <http://geonames.nrcan.gc.ca/index_e.php> > > > > And I do not find either in the 1881 Canadian Census. > > > > Almost all church and civil records of the Pfalz area have been > > extracted by the LDS and are in IGI records. > > > > bob gillis > > > > > > > > ********* > > Information for list members: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ********* > Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you, Stewart ----- Original Message ----- From: <Stewartdor@aol.com> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Language > Yes! Most of our messages are in English. > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello listers, I am searching for the ancestors of Carl GERMANN b Meisenheim 21st Jan 1802 and Susannah KOCH b Meisenheim ,15 Feb 1810 . They would have married about 1836/7 in Meisenheim,Germany. They emigrated to Ontario Canada in 1850 and settled in New Hamburg. They would have been Protestants. Are there any church records that some kind soul could access for me? Katherine O'Regan New Zealand.

Katherine O'Regan wrote: >Dear Bob, >Many thanks indeed for all your useful information. >To tell you the truth I cannot remember where I found the date for Carl >GERMANN's birth but the year was 1802 - that was given to me by my former >mother in law some 20 years ago and I presume she had had it passed down to >her.Also the marriage to Susannah KOCH. Charles Frederick seems a very >common name combination. > > >One of the sons was born during the crossing to Canada and he was born in >1850. New Hamburg is south west of Canada - Encarta Atlas shows it. > I searched on the US Names and on Encarta and found nothing with that name. The closest per encarta is Hamburg New York near Buffalo NY. It is south of Ontario. There is a Carl Germann in a Worldconnect file on rootsweb.com that matches the info you have given. Find the file and contact the submitter. I think it has amny eroors and inconsistancies in it. The info in the file is as vague as you have. One of Frederick Charles sisters married a Scott also and went to NZ. Ask on the Erie County NY list or message board for a lookup in the 1860 and earlier Ccensus for Carl German living perhpas in Hamburg. the WC file has Chrstian, another son having a daughter in Plattsville. This is not found in Eencarta either but there is a Platteville in Wisconsin. Maybe that is where New Hamburg was. Ask on the Wisconsin Message Board about New hamburg and a look up for Carl Germann. bob gillis > >Carl Germanns son Charles Frederick married a Katherine Scott whose father, >William Scott was one of the founding fathers - but with a name like New >Hamburg one presumes that there was considerable German emigration to that >area.This was all we know of him - > >"He was tall and distinguished looking with a striking military bearing, no >doubt acquired by a period of military service in the Army. He received a >good education and was disposed to be strict and businesslike. > > >On arrival in New Hamburg he bought a hotel Also owned and operated a >tannery He was 72 when he died." > > > >I need a marriage certificate which will give me Carl's parentage. > You won't find such a document. They usually did not exist in the early 1800s. >Kind regards, >Katherine > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "bob gillis" <robertgillis@verizon.net> >To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:54 AM >Subject: Re: [Pfalz] GERMANN. Carl amd KOCH Susannah; Meisenheim > > > > >>Katherine O'Regan wrote: >> >> >> >>>Hello listers, >>>I am searching for the ancestors of Carl GERMANN b Meisenheim 21st Jan >>>1802 >>> >>> >>> >>the only Carl Germann in Family Search is a Charles Frederick Gerrmann >>born 26 JUL 1802 Bad Duerkheim, Pfalz, Bayern >> >> >> >>>and Susannah KOCH b Meisenheim ,15 Feb 1810 . >>> >>> >>> >>Susannah Freidericka Koch is in an extracted IGI record: born 15 FEb >>1810 and Christened 19 Feb 1810 in Evangelisch, Meisenheim, Rheinland, >>Preussen, dau of Hartman Koch and FRIEDERIKA JULIANA ROGOT >><http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=500249251303&lds=1&region=8&frompage=99>. >> >>There is no Marriage record on FS for the couple. >> >> >> >>>They emigrated to Ontario Canada in 1850 and settled in New Hamburg. They >>>would have been Protestants. Are there any church records that some kind >>>soul could access for me? >>> >>> >>> >>What are your sources for the exact birth date for Carl, their 1850 >>emigration and residence in New Hamburg. there is no New Hamburg or >>Hamburg in present day Ontario or as a formerly official name at: >>Canadian Geographical Names <http://geonames.nrcan.gc.ca/index_e.php> >> >>And I do not find either in the 1881 Canadian Census. >> >>Almost all church and civil records of the Pfalz area have been >>extracted by the LDS and are in IGI records. >> >>bob gillis >> >> >> >>********* >>Information for list members: >>http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > >********* >Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Can I use English on this site? Katherine O'Regan New Zealand

Hi I live in Norway abd was trying to rent the films for Callbach, Pfalz last year. But they didn't allow the films to be rented to Norway. So I guess that may be the same for New Zealand. It's not easy for us who have a long distance to go to try to find our German ancestors. Maybe I will have the time when I become a retirement penisoner about 20 years from now :)). Best regards from Hanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred H Held" <fhheld@netzero.net> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com>; "Katherine O'Regan" <coreg@xtra.co.nz> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] GERMANN. Carl amd KOCH Susannah; Meisenheim Katherine, THe LDS Family History Library catalog is online at FamilySearch. It shows that there are Evangelische (Lutheran), Evangelisch-Reformierte, and Katholische records on microfilm. These microfilms can be rented at your local LDS Family History Center (even in NZ). ================================= Kirchenbuch, 1684-1808 Evangelische Kirche Meisenheim (Kr. Meisenheim) (Main Author) Parish register of baptisms, marriages, deaths, confirmations, for Meisenheim, Preußen, Rheinland, Germany and surrounding area. Kirchenbuch, 1607-1822 Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Meisenheim (Glan) (Main Author) Parish register transcripts of baptisms, marriages, communicants (mostly statistics), confirmations, deaths, preachers, etc. of Meisenheim Glan and vicinity. ================================= Unfortunately for you, Meisenheim appears to be an administrative office ("county seat") and may have been a reference point identified by your ancestor, rather than the specific local village. ShtetlSeeker shows there are about 250 villages within 10 miles. There is this entry in the IGI Files at the FamilySearch website you should be aware of. =============================== IGI Individual Record FamilySearchT International Genealogical Index v5.0 SUSSANNA FRIEDERICKA KOCH Birth: 15 FEB 1810 Christening: 19 FEB 1810 Evangelisch, Meisenheim, Rheinland, Preussen Father: HARTMANN KOCH Mother: FRIEDERIKA JULIANA ROGOT Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. Batch No.: C993086 1764 - 1798 & 1805 - 1822 0193980 =============================== Many of the records for Meisenheim have been extracted (transcribed), unfortunately the extractions appear to end in 1822 for both marriages and Christenings. Also the batch that includes 1802 (1798-1808 C993083), does not have any GERMANN family Christenings. If the wedding was held in the church in Meisenheim, the c1836-1837 wedding record will give the full names of both fathers and mothers (born-as) and the village the were from. At 12:00 AM 3/4/2007, you wrote: >From: "Katherine O'Regan" <coreg@xtra.co.nz> >Subject: [Pfalz] GERMANN. Carl amd KOCH Susannah; Meisenheim > >Hello listers, >I am searching for the ancestors of Carl GERMANN b Meisenheim 21st Jan 1802 >and Susannah KOCH b Meisenheim ,15 Feb 1810 . They would have married about >1836/7 in Meisenheim,Germany. They emigrated to Ontario Canada in 1850 and >settled in New Hamburg. They would have been Protestants. >Are there any church records that some kind soul could access for me? > >Katherine O'Regan >New Zealand. ********* Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Katherine O'Regan wrote: >Hello listers, >I am searching for the ancestors of Carl GERMANN b Meisenheim 21st Jan 1802 > the only Carl Germann in Family Search is a Charles Frederick Gerrmann born 26 JUL 1802 Bad Duerkheim, Pfalz, Bayern >and Susannah KOCH b Meisenheim ,15 Feb 1810 . > Susannah Freidericka Koch is in an extracted IGI record: born 15 FEb 1810 and Christened 19 Feb 1810 in Evangelisch, Meisenheim, Rheinland, Preussen, dau of Hartman Koch and FRIEDERIKA JULIANA ROGOT <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=500249251303&lds=1&region=8&frompage=99>. There is no Marriage record on FS for the couple. >They emigrated to Ontario Canada in 1850 and settled in New Hamburg. They would have been Protestants. Are there any church records that some kind soul could access for me? > What are your sources for the exact birth date for Carl, their 1850 emigration and residence in New Hamburg. there is no New Hamburg or Hamburg in present day Ontario or as a formerly official name at: Canadian Geographical Names <http://geonames.nrcan.gc.ca/index_e.php> And I do not find either in the 1881 Canadian Census. Almost all church and civil records of the Pfalz area have been extracted by the LDS and are in IGI records. bob gillis

Katherine O'Regan wrote: >Hello listers, >I am searching for the ancestors of Carl GERMANN b Meisenheim 21st Jan 1802 >and Susannah KOCH b Meisenheim ,15 Feb 1810 . They would have married about >1836/7 in Meisenheim,Germany. They emigrated to Ontario Canada in 1850 and >settled in >New Hamburg. They would have been Protestants. >Are there any church records that some kind soul could access for me? >

Regarding the German church records - I ordered several spools from the LDS library, and then found I couldn't read them. The script and handwriting legibility of the early records was baffling. Also, for some reason the LDS people were unable to send me the correct film. It took several tries before I got one out of three spools I was looking for, and after I saw how difficult the one was to read, I canceled the other orders. Tom

Katherine, THe LDS Family History Library catalog is online at FamilySearch. It shows that there are Evangelische (Lutheran), Evangelisch-Reformierte, and Katholische records on microfilm. These microfilms can be rented at your local LDS Family History Center (even in NZ). ================================= Kirchenbuch, 1684-1808 Evangelische Kirche Meisenheim (Kr. Meisenheim) (Main Author) Parish register of baptisms, marriages, deaths, confirmations, for Meisenheim, Preußen, Rheinland, Germany and surrounding area. Kirchenbuch, 1607-1822 Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Meisenheim (Glan) (Main Author) Parish register transcripts of baptisms, marriages, communicants (mostly statistics), confirmations, deaths, preachers, etc. of Meisenheim Glan and vicinity. ================================= Unfortunately for you, Meisenheim appears to be an administrative office ("county seat") and may have been a reference point identified by your ancestor, rather than the specific local village. ShtetlSeeker shows there are about 250 villages within 10 miles. There is this entry in the IGI Files at the FamilySearch website you should be aware of. =============================== IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 SUSSANNA FRIEDERICKA KOCH Birth: 15 FEB 1810 Christening: 19 FEB 1810 Evangelisch, Meisenheim, Rheinland, Preussen Father: HARTMANN KOCH Mother: FRIEDERIKA JULIANA ROGOT Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. Batch No.: C993086 1764 - 1798 & 1805 - 1822 0193980 =============================== Many of the records for Meisenheim have been extracted (transcribed), unfortunately the extractions appear to end in 1822 for both marriages and Christenings. Also the batch that includes 1802 (1798-1808 C993083), does not have any GERMANN family Christenings. If the wedding was held in the church in Meisenheim, the c1836-1837 wedding record will give the full names of both fathers and mothers (born-as) and the village the were from. At 12:00 AM 3/4/2007, you wrote: >From: "Katherine O'Regan" <coreg@xtra.co.nz> >Subject: [Pfalz] GERMANN. Carl amd KOCH Susannah; Meisenheim > >Hello listers, >I am searching for the ancestors of Carl GERMANN b Meisenheim 21st Jan 1802 >and Susannah KOCH b Meisenheim ,15 Feb 1810 . They would have married about >1836/7 in Meisenheim,Germany. They emigrated to Ontario Canada in 1850 and >settled in New Hamburg. They would have been Protestants. >Are there any church records that some kind soul could access for me? > >Katherine O'Regan >New Zealand.

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During the Thirty Years War the area currently comprising the Southwestern Pfalz was seriously depopulated. Many villages were abandoned. In 1685 the Swedish ruler of Zweibrücken permitted the Catholic faith in that Reformed dukedom. Even prior to 1685 Catholics began moving to the area. After 1685, with permission to practice a religion other than Reformed, many more people emigrated. I have no original source evidence, but a reasonable volume of informed material indicating that the Bishop of Metz actively sought to send priests and practicing Catholics to the area. The recruiting effort extended to other areas too. What is currently Luxembourg and southern Belgium also sent a share of immigrants to the Pfalz. So too did other areas in what is today Germany. My questions are: Can anyone give me insight into the activities of the Bishops of Metz during this time? Can anyone help with the boundaries of Metz and the surrounding bishoprics? Are there archives that might contain the names of the emigrant families? (I have incomplete lists on the receiving end.) Paul Sefrin

Hello Fred H. Held Your message below was an exceptionally helpful response. Thank you on behalf of lurkers everywhere. Ray W. Raymond Cummins Mississauga ON Canada cummins@utm.utoronto.ca -----Original Message----- From: pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fred H Held Sent: February 24, 2007 9:03 AM To: pfalz@rootsweb.com; VistaRon96@aol.com Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Hebel surname Ron, Your information for Johann Georg Friedrich HEBEL (the name was entered in Latin in the church book) is obviously from the LDS IGI Files at FamilySearch. However, you left out information to help you answer your own question. At the bottom of that entry were these data: ======================= Source Information: Batch No.: C989971 1639 - 1798 0193096 ======================= This means the data were extracted (transcribed from records) and the batch number for the group is C989971 from LDS microfilm 0193096. The years extracted in this batch are 1639 to 1798. The batch number can be used to search only those records via the IGI specific search engine at FamilySearch. The IGI specific search engine can be reached 2 ways: click on the Batch number on the search result or click on "International Genealogical Index" on the left side of the "All Resources" search and enter the batch number. Unfortunately, that batch number has only one entry with the HEBEL surname, your Johann Georg Friedrich, however, there may be additional information in the actual church book entry on LDS microfilm 0193096. The entry may contain the home village of the father or the mother. It surely will have the sponsors and their home village. You need to visit your local LDS Family History Center (also found on the FamiySearch website) and rent the microfilms for that village. ========================= Kirchenbuch, 1639-1879 Evangelische Kirche Obermoschel (BA. Rockenhausen) (Main Author) Parish register of baptisms, marriages, conversions, confirmations, deaths, presbyters, indexes, penitents, reinterments, schoolteachers, indexes, communicants, and censors of the Lutheran and Reformed Protestant churches. ============================ A search for the next batch number in sequence (C989972) gives 5 more HEBELs, 4 are the children of Johann Adam HEBEL and Catharina Elisabetha HILDEBRAND and one is the child of Johannes HEBEL and Johannetta ENDER. A search of the associated marriage batch number (M989972) gives the marriage entries for these 2 HEBEL families. In that time period the actual marriage entry in the church book usually gives the full names of both parents (including "born as" name for mother) and their home village. It is easy to speculate that Johann Adam and Johannes were other children of Johann Nicholas HEBEL and Maria Elisabetha when they moved to Obermoschel. At 12:00 AM 2/24/2007, you wrote: >From: VistaRon96@aol.com >Subject: [Pfalz] Hebel surname >To: pfalz@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <d19.42d83ec.3310f031@aol.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Joannes Georgius Fredericus HEBEL >Christened 10 May 1789 >Evangelisch, Obermoschel, Pfalz, Bayern >Father: Joannes Nicolaus HEBEL >Mother: Maria Elisabetha ?????? > >Did they have other children? > >Ron HABEL >Vista, CA, USA ********* Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Julie, I suppose your Hasselwander ancestors could be from Hauenstein near Annweiler. Please have a look at our website www.genealogie-in-pirmasens.de. I will send you more information when my Internet will work again. Bernhard Braun .................. bebeThanks for the link... There are 17 hits so will go from there!! bebe bebeThanks again, bebeJuls bebe bebe----- Original Message ----- bebeFrom: "Ulrich Volkemer" <Ulrich.Volkemer@t-online.de> bebeTo: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> bebeSent: Friday, February 23, 2007 2:25 PM bebeSubject: [Pfalz] Hasselwander bebe bebe bebe> bebe> Hey Julie bebe> you found a german-telefonbook online at www.telefonbuch.de bebe> bebe> greets bebe> Uli bebe> bebe> ********* bebe> Information for list members: bebe> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html bebe> ------------------------------- bebe> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to bebe> PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes bebe bebe> in the subject and the body of the message bebe bebe bebe********* bebeInformation for list members: bebehttp://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html bebe------------------------------- bebeTo unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to bebePFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes bebein the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the link!! I will be checking it out shortly!! Juls :) ----- Original Message ----- From: <bernhard@braun-pirmasens.de> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Hasselwander > Hello Julie, > > I suppose your Hasselwander ancestors could be from Hauenstein near > Annweiler. Please have a look at our website > www.genealogie-in-pirmasens.de. I will send you more information when my > Internet will work again. > > Bernhard Braun > .................. > > > bebeThanks for the link... There are 17 hits so will go from there!! > bebe > bebeThanks again, > bebeJuls > bebe > bebe----- Original Message ----- > bebeFrom: "Ulrich Volkemer" <Ulrich.Volkemer@t-online.de> > bebeTo: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> > bebeSent: Friday, February 23, 2007 2:25 PM > bebeSubject: [Pfalz] Hasselwander > bebe > bebe > bebe> > bebe> Hey Julie > bebe> you found a german-telefonbook online at www.telefonbuch.de > bebe> > bebe> greets > bebe> Uli > bebe> > bebe> ********* > bebe> Information for list members: > bebe> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > bebe> ------------------------------- > bebe> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > bebe> PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > bebe > bebe> in the subject and the body of the message > bebe > bebe > bebe********* > bebeInformation for list members: > bebehttp://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > bebe------------------------------- > bebeTo unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > bebePFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > bebein the subject and the body of the message > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Ron, Your information for Johann Georg Friedrich HEBEL (the name was entered in Latin in the church book) is obviously from the LDS IGI Files at FamilySearch. However, you left out information to help you answer your own question. At the bottom of that entry were these data: ======================= Source Information: Batch No.: C989971 1639 - 1798 0193096 ======================= This means the data were extracted (transcribed from records) and the batch number for the group is C989971 from LDS microfilm 0193096. The years extracted in this batch are 1639 to 1798. The batch number can be used to search only those records via the IGI specific search engine at FamilySearch. The IGI specific search engine can be reached 2 ways: click on the Batch number on the search result or click on "International Genealogical Index" on the left side of the "All Resources" search and enter the batch number. Unfortunately, that batch number has only one entry with the HEBEL surname, your Johann Georg Friedrich, however, there may be additional information in the actual church book entry on LDS microfilm 0193096. The entry may contain the home village of the father or the mother. It surely will have the sponsors and their home village. You need to visit your local LDS Family History Center (also found on the FamiySearch website) and rent the microfilms for that village. ========================= Kirchenbuch, 1639-1879 Evangelische Kirche Obermoschel (BA. Rockenhausen) (Main Author) Parish register of baptisms, marriages, conversions, confirmations, deaths, presbyters, indexes, penitents, reinterments, schoolteachers, indexes, communicants, and censors of the Lutheran and Reformed Protestant churches. ============================ A search for the next batch number in sequence (C989972) gives 5 more HEBELs, 4 are the children of Johann Adam HEBEL and Catharina Elisabetha HILDEBRAND and one is the child of Johannes HEBEL and Johannetta ENDER. A search of the associated marriage batch number (M989972) gives the marriage entries for these 2 HEBEL families. In that time period the actual marriage entry in the church book usually gives the full names of both parents (including "born as" name for mother) and their home village. It is easy to speculate that Johann Adam and Johannes were other children of Johann Nicholas HEBEL and Maria Elisabetha when they moved to Obermoschel. At 12:00 AM 2/24/2007, you wrote: >From: VistaRon96@aol.com >Subject: [Pfalz] Hebel surname >To: pfalz@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <d19.42d83ec.3310f031@aol.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Joannes Georgius Fredericus HEBEL >Christened 10 May 1789 >Evangelisch, Obermoschel, Pfalz, Bayern >Father: Joannes Nicolaus HEBEL >Mother: Maria Elisabetha ?????? > >Did they have other children? > >Ron HABEL >Vista, CA, USA

Thanks for the link... There are 17 hits so will go from there!! Thanks again, Juls ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ulrich Volkemer" <Ulrich.Volkemer@t-online.de> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 2:25 PM Subject: [Pfalz] Hasselwander > > Hey Julie > you found a german-telefonbook online at www.telefonbuch.de > > greets > Uli > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message