Spaghettitree@aol.com wrote: > Hi - I did respond to Jim Walter's posting to the Pfalz list, on 11 July at > 8:01 pm - I printed out a copy of it. I've no idea why you didn't see it, but > I have had this happen before. So much for this computer age. Maureen your message is not in the list archives so if you sent it to both Jim Walter and the list, Jim is the onoy one htat has seen yur message. You are using X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10712. I assume this is AOL mailer 7.0. Some versions of AOL mailers add html trailers to messages. When rw strips out the html, the whole message gets deleted. Any AOLers on this list should look at rw help about AOL and probably Join http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/RootsWeb_Support/AOLers-RootsWeb.html Resend your message to the list being sure that is is in plain text. bob gillis > > Maureen Schoenky > > > > ************************************** > Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ********* > Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi - I did respond to Jim Walter's posting to the Pfalz list, on 11 July at 8:01 pm - I printed out a copy of it. I've no idea why you didn't see it, but I have had this happen before. So much for this computer age. Maureen Schoenky ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Jim Walter wrote: > Thanks for all the good advice Maureen. I have exhausted most of the > avenues that you mentioned. Reinhard Hofer's list includes Georg > Leonhard Walter but my funds are too limited at the moment to hire > his Genealogical services. So I will keep on plugging away at the > library and internet searches as time allows. Jim Walter Jim, this message is baffling to me. Since the subject does not have aR: in it I guess it is not a reply. I do not find a message from a Maureen in recent list mail. Your original subject should have been: WALTER, Georg Leonhard immigrated to USA 1852/3 Is is good netiquette to quote the message yu are repying to. And to Maureen, if you replied privately to Jim Water, his list is set to Reply-to-List.Please reply to the list. bob gillis

Thanks for all the good advice Maureen. I have exhausted most of the avenues that you mentioned. Reinhard Hofer's list includes Georg Leonhard Walter but my funds are too limited at the moment to hire his Genealogical services. So I will keep on plugging away at the library and internet searches as time allows. Jim Walter

My ancestor is in the list of '1833 Thru 1906 Palatine Emigrants From Edenkoben' as researched by Pfarrer Alfred Kuby of Edenkoben and published by the Pennsylvania Chapter of Palatines to America in 1989. It has taken me many months to obtain a copy of this booklet. If anyone else has an ancestor from Edenkoben who came to North America, I would be willing to check for the name in this list for you. Gilda ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Fred H Held wrote: > Bob, > > Arthur Teschler's GEOserv instructions > (http://www.rootsweb.com/~wggerman/resources/geoserv.htm) state that it > accepts wildcards. Therefore, a search using "*dorf" would find all > places that end with "dorf" in Germany. Thanks Fred. I had never seen any instructions on GEOoserv as I have always used the email version. > > Neither GEOserv nor ShtetlSeeker allow subdividing old Germany as part > of the search. ShtetlSeeker does allow choosing your own central search > point, so you can select a city in Hesse as the central point and all > distances will be measured from there. http://rolf-freytag.de/fhilfe/myphp/index.php does allow searching by many subdvisions including Land. bob gillis

Jim Walter wrote: > Hi Folks: I am searching for information on a Georg Leonhard Walter > who immigrated to the USA in 1852 or 1853. I need to find his > village's name and the ship name he came on. When and where do you first find him in the USA? When do your sources indicate he was born? > He was a Lutheran and was literate. I have not been able to get this > info after many years > of searching because I was searching Baden info. US census data has > him from Baden at one time and Bavaria another. Have you found him only in two Census? Was he married in the USA an have you found his marriage record? Have you found the birth records o any children? Have you looked in FamilySearch and on rootsweb.com and Googled for him? When you give us answers to the above questions we can give you suggestions on where to look to get more information. bob gillis

Dear Jim, I have forwarded your info on to my sister, who married into a WALTER clan. They have some genealogical records and will do some looking for you. I know that her clan is Catholic, but, some people converted once here, or married into the faith in the States. She may get back to you personally. Lisa Luchsinger Swovick (PFEIFFENBERGER-(PIFER), LUCHSINGER, LAMPERT,SCHNEIDER,BAKER0 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Walter" <jimwalter6@verizon.net> To: <PFALZ@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 10:02 PM Subject: [Pfalz] Pfalz list > Hi Folks: > I am searching for information on a Georg Leonhard Walter who immigrated to the USA in 1852 or 1853. I need to find his village's name and the ship name he came on.. He was a Lutheran and was literate. I have not been able to get this info after many years of searching because I was searching Baden info. US census data has him from Baden at one time and Bavaria another. > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > Jim Walter > > ********* > Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.2/894 - Release Date: 7/10/2007 5:44 PM > >

Bob, Arthur Teschler's GEOserv instructions (http://www.rootsweb.com/~wggerman/resources/geoserv.htm) state that it accepts wildcards. Therefore, a search using "*dorf" would find all places that end with "dorf" in Germany. Neither GEOserv nor ShtetlSeeker allow subdividing old Germany as part of the search. ShtetlSeeker does allow choosing your own central search point, so you can select a city in Hesse as the central point and all distances will be measured from there. At 02:01 AM 7/12/2007, you wrote: >From: bob gillis <robertgillis@verizon.net> >Subject: [Pfalz] Searching for town by ending >To: PFALZ <pfalz@rootsweb.com> > >Is there any data base of German towns that can be searched for the ending. > >Someone is looking for a *dorf town in Hesse. The info she has looks >like the dorf ending is good and Hesse-Darmstadt is also good. > >Geo@genealogy.net and shtettelseeker both require a full name. > >bob gillis

In order to find the village Georg Leonhard Walter came from you will need to scour every U.S. record you can get your hands on - there is no central repository in Germany so it would be very difficult to hunt around all over there. It would help if you include his wife's name, where they settled, dates of birth, marriage, death in your inquiry. If you are searching only on line, that's only one avenue and not all-inclusive. Have you checked out newspaper obits and other articles in English and German language papers? Before radio and telephones there were an amazing number of tiny articles about anyone and everyone - that was the best means of communication. Even if you don't read German Gothic you can recognize the name and dates. Cemetery and sexton and tombstone? Mortuary records? Memory cards? Naturalization? Probate? Siblings? Memberships like IOOF, Sons of Herman, Woodmen of America, Turnvereins and many more? Most especially, the church records here, plus application for marriage license; military service. Also remember those who lived nearby, often came from the same place. What did he do for a living - are there records of that place? Local historical society information? Schools? Do you have any knowledge of the dialect he spoke? Any recipes handed down with German names? Sauerkraut is not the same everywhere. Family traditions which sometimes indicate locality? Have you looked at Cyndislist.com? Maureen Schoenky ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

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Hi Folks: I am searching for information on a Georg Leonhard Walter who immigrated to the USA in 1852 or 1853. I need to find his village's name and the ship name he came on.. He was a Lutheran and was literate. I have not been able to get this info after many years of searching because I was searching Baden info. US census data has him from Baden at one time and Bavaria another. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Jim Walter

I wrote a bit ago Is there any data base of German towns that can be searched for the ending. Someone is looking for a *dorf town in Hesse. The info she has looks like the dorf ending is good and Hesse-Darmstadt is also good. Geo@genealogy.net and shtettelseeker both require a full name. bob gillis Kathy Lenerz posted http://rolf-freytag.de/fhilfe/myphp/index.php on another list which does exactly what I asked for. bob gillis

Is there any data base of German towns that can be searched for the ending. Someone is looking for a *dorf town in Hesse. The info she has looks like the dorf ending is good and Hesse-Darmstadt is also good. Geo@genealogy.net and shtettelseeker both require a full name. bob gillis

Stewartdor@aol.com wrote: > Looking for anyone who would have a GOTTLIEB MUELLER in their family. I > believe he came from Schillingstadt, Mosbach, Baden. You should be asking this on a Baden list or message Board. Search rootsweb.com > mailing lists or> MB for Baden and ask there. from geo@enealogy.net: Schillingstadt Part of: Ahorn GKZ : 08 1 28 138 County : | | +---- Main-Tauber-Kreis (Tauberbischofsheim) {TBB} RegBez : | +------- Stuttgart Land : +--------- Baden-Württemberg ZIP : 74744 Popul : 397 Locat : (Ahorn) 49d30m N 9d32m E Maps : TK25 6523 Boxberg TK50 L6522 Walldürn Euro Kd52

Looking for anyone who would have a GOTTLIEB MUELLER in their family. I believe he came from Schillingstadt, Mosbach, Baden. I know of one daughter, Katharina, who was born in 1857. Dorothy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

SARAH ADAMS wrote: > > A distant relation sent me a lovely email this afternoon connecting > some of the relations that remained in Germany with my information in > the US. However, here is my question, I am wondering what the dates > are relating to what Kreis Otterstadt and Waldsee were in. She has > Kreis Schifferstadt and I have always been under the impression that > it was in Kreis Ludwigshafen. Geo@genealogy.net says that both Otterstadt and Waldsee are in Kaiserlauten County/Kreis and both are in Verbandsgemeinde Waldsee. the geo data base is as of about 1996. This Kreis was renamed Rhein-Pfalz-Kreis in 2004. A Wikipedia article on The Rhein-Pfalz-Kreis says: The Rhein-Pfalz-Kreis is a district (Kreis) in the east of Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany. Neighboring districts are (from north clockwise) the district-free city Worms, the district Bergstraße, district-free Mannheim, Frankenthal and Ludwigshafen, Rhein-Neckar, district-free Speyer, the districts Karlsruhe, Germersheim, Südliche Weinstraße and Bad Dürkheim. The district was created in 1886 under the name Bezirksamt Ludwigshafen, one of the last acts of king Ludwig II of Bavaria. The population in the area around Speyer had grown significantly, which made the splitting of the Bezirksamt Speyer necessary. 1969 the two districts Speyer and Ludwigshafen and part of the districts Frankenthal and Neustadt were merged again to form the new district Ludwigshafen. On May 19, 2003 the district parliament did pass a resolution to rename the district to "Rhein-Pfalz-Kreis" starting in 2004. So Depending on the time of the event, Speyer or Luwigshafen could have been the Kreis where these two villages were. There does not appear to have ever been a Schifferstadt Kreis > Then I have another relation that states Speyer is the correct one. > Is there a historical timeframe that make all three locations > correct? Not as far as I can see. bob gillis

Nell, why did you reply to me? The PFALZ list is Reply to List and if you click on Reply the reply should go back to the list and not to the sender. bob gillis Texas1933@aol.com wrote: > > Oh, you are certainly correct, Robert. In documents Davault is recorded > Debolt, Theobald, Daywalt, etc. and even the surname is Peck, Peack, > etc. To me Theobald is the most likely spelling. The names as recorded in America were what a probably English speaking recorder thought the German Theobold Beck said. Before the cousins go they should search Familysearch.org and rootsweb.ocm for him and his children who were born in Germany. They should buy a book in German genealogical research and read it and take with them. bob gillis In a biographical sketch of his great granddaughter, it is > Daywalt. His ship Phoenix lists him as Debolt, and it goes on! Thakns. > bob gillis wrote: > Davault is not a German given name and and I suspect it is a variation > that the recorders heard or he adopted after he was in America. What > was his age in 1750, who was his wife and who were his children that > came with him and their ages.

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Does anyone have the following or access to it? There is a page or two I would like copied. It tells when my great grandfather left Germany for North America: 1833 thru 1906 Palatine emigrants from Eden Koben (in Rheinland Pfalz West Termany) to North America It lists John Nicolas Hoffman and another young man as well as a young couple with child. I know my ggrandfather stowed away so I'm looking for any indication any of the others did. My guess was that the 2 young men did... aided by the couple. I wondered how the original information read. gilda ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.