Hi Janet, I have a number of ancestors who came from there. The actual word is Evangelische; there is no such word as Evaneliscue - it is either a misread or misprint. It does mean Evangelical, or in America, Lutheran. Best to you, Jan --- Researcher0071@aol.com wrote: > Is there someone on this list that could please translate this phrase > for me? > > Pirmasens Evaneliscue und Militar > > I found "und Militar" in my German American Dictionary as "and > Miliary". > > I could not find Pirmasens Evaneliscue listed in Ernest Thode's > German - > English Genealogical Dictionary. > > Would appreciate any help. > > Thanks, Janet > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the > all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/

Pirmesens is a military training area. was used by Germany in WW1 and maybe before. EGM ---- Original Message ----- From: <Researcher0071@aol.com> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:25 PM Subject: [Pfalz] Need German translation > Is there someone on this list that could please translate this phrase for me? > > Pirmasens Evaneliscue und Militar > > I found "und Militar" in my German American Dictionary as "and Miliary". > > I could not find Pirmasens Evaneliscue listed in Ernest Thode's German - > English Genealogical Dictionary. > > Would appreciate any help. > > Thanks, Janet > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ********* > Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there someone on this list that could please translate this phrase for me? Pirmasens Evaneliscue und Militar I found "und Militar" in my German American Dictionary as "and Miliary". I could not find Pirmasens Evaneliscue listed in Ernest Thode's German - English Genealogical Dictionary. Would appreciate any help. Thanks, Janet ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Im looking for SCHWEIN family in PFALZ around 1864. A KATHERINE SCHWEIN was born 1864 there. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Ted, Thank you for that information. Can you write them in English? Jeanne ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

BAYERISCHES HAUPTSTAATSARCHIV Leonrodstrasse 57 80636 München Germany I would suggest writing to this branch of the archives in Bavaria and let them know that you are trying to find proof of military service. Give them as much information as to identify your ancestor - name, dob, where he lived in Bavaria, time of service and why you believe that, etc. http://www.gda.bayern.de/enp1.htm Provides a link with an English translation to the Bavarian Archives. Rod Fleck Forks, WA

For information regarding an ancestor's military service in the Bavarian army write to: Bayerisches Hauptstaatsarchiv Kriegsarchiv , Abteilung V Leonrodstrasse 57 D-80636 Munich (or Postfach 221152 D-80501 Munich) Ted vonWallmenich vonwall@ptd.net

Here is my copy of the messages from Maureen, from PFALZ Digest, Vol 2, Issue 52. I, too, am confused that Bob Gillis and the list archives have no record of it. (I also have an AOL address; perhaps this only was delivered to AOL addressees? -- Very long shot!) Dave Uhrick In a message dated 7/12/2007 3:09:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pfalz-request@rootsweb.com writes: Message: 4 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:42:54 EDT From: Spaghettitree@aol.com Subject: Re: [Pfalz] (no subject) To: pfalz@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <bbc.19a85451.33c6ef2e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:01:37 EDT From: Spaghettitree@aol.com Subject: Re: To: pfalz@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <c61.176a31d7.33c6f391@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In order to find the village Georg Leonhard Walter came from you will need to scour every U.S. record you can get your hands on - there is no central repository in Germany so it would be very difficult to hunt around all over there. It would help if you include his wife's name, where they settled, dates of birth, marriage, death in your inquiry. If you are searching only on line, that's only one avenue and not all-inclusive. Have you checked out newspaper obits and other articles in English and German language papers? Before radio and telephones there were an amazing number of tiny articles about anyone and everyone - that was the best means of communication. Even if you don't read German Gothic you can recognize the name and dates. Cemetery and sexton and tombstone? Mortuary records? Memory cards? Naturalization? Probate? Siblings? Memberships like IOOF, Sons of Herman, Woodmen of America, Turnvereins and many more? Most especially, the church records here, plus application for marriage license; military service. Also remember those who lived nearby, often came from the same place. What did he do for a living - are there records of that place? Local historical society information? Schools? Do you have any knowledge of the dialect he spoke? Any recipes handed down with German names? Sauerkraut is not the same everywhere. Family traditions which sometimes indicate locality? Have you looked at Cyndislist.com? Maureen Schoenky ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Interesting theory, but as I said, I received her letter of June 11, and I DON'T have AOL. Ann in Iowa At 09:29 PM 7/14/2007, you wrote: >Here is my copy of the messages from Maureen, from PFALZ Digest, Vol 2, >Issue 52. I, too, am confused that Bob Gillis and the list archives have no >record of it. (I also have an AOL address; perhaps this only >was delivered to >AOL addressees? -- Very long shot!) > >Dave Uhrick > >In a message dated 7/12/2007 3:09:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >pfalz-request@rootsweb.com writes: > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:42:54 EDT >From: Spaghettitree@aol.com >Subject: Re: [Pfalz] (no subject) >To: pfalz@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <bbc.19a85451.33c6ef2e@aol.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > >************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL >at >http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:01:37 EDT >From: Spaghettitree@aol.com >Subject: Re: > > >To: pfalz@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <c61.176a31d7.33c6f391@aol.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > >In order to find the village Georg Leonhard Walter came from you will need >to >scour every U.S. record you can get your hands on - there is no central >repository in Germany so it would be very difficult to hunt around all over >there. >It would help if you include his wife's name, where they settled, dates of >birth, marriage, death in your inquiry. > >If you are searching only on line, that's only one avenue and not >all-inclusive. Have you checked out newspaper obits and other articles in >English and >German language papers? Before radio and telephones there were an amazing >number of tiny articles about anyone and everyone - that was the best means >of >communication. Even if you don't read German Gothic you can recognize the >name >and dates. Cemetery and sexton and tombstone? Mortuary records? Memory >cards? Naturalization? Probate? Siblings? Memberships like IOOF, Sons of >Herman, >Woodmen of America, Turnvereins and many more? Most especially, the church >records here, plus application for marriage license; military service. Also >remember those who lived nearby, often came from the same place. What did >he >do for a living - are there records of that place? Local historical society > >information? Schools? Do you have any knowledge of the dialect he spoke? >Any >recipes handed down with German names? Sauerkraut is not the same >everywhere. >Family traditions which sometimes indicate locality? Have you looked at >Cyndislist.com? > >Maureen Schoenky > > >************************************** >Get a sneak peak of >the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > >------------------------------ > > > > > > >************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at >http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > >********* >Information for list members: >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Listers, How can I get information re: my husband's ggrandfather's (Adam Weidner) military service in the Bavarian army? Mar 1847-Mar 1853 Susan

Dear Susan, I was just lucky that this was one document that was saved by my 3grgrandfather when he came to the US and handed down to us through the generations! I'm sorry, maybe someone on the list can give you some pointers on that one! Good luck, Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan" <subwest@comcast.net> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Pfalz list Georg Leonhard Walter search > Lisa, > How can one get records of military service in the Bavarian army? My > husband's ggrandfather, Adam Weidner, served about that same time. > Susan > > -----Original Message----- > From: pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Lisa Swovick > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:44 AM > To: pfalz@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Pfalz list Georg Leonhard Walter search > > Dear Jim, > > Regarding the Pfalz or Bavaria issue, we had an oral history and a military > document from the Bavarian army that my 3 grgrandfather, Joseph > Pfeiffenberger, which indicated he was from Bavaria at that time (1845). > However, being that Germany wasn't united until 1871, it was true that he > was from Bavaria. When state lines were changed, his hometown, Hauenstein, > which was listed on his military papers as his town of origin, was now in > the Pfalz! So, at the time your ancestor immigrated, he could have been > from Bavaria at that time! > > Lisa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <GGKinzer@aol.com> > To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 6:11 AM > Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Pfalz list Georg Leonhard Walter search > > > > Jim, > > Do you have his death certificate? That has been the source of place of > > birth for my ggrandfather born Edenkoben. It was spelled wrong but the > best clue > > I had! > > gilda > > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL > at > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > > ********* > > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/898 - Release Date: 7/12/2007 > 4:08 PM > > > > > > > ********* > Information for list members: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ********* > Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.5/899 - Release Date: 7/13/2007 3:41 PM > >

Dear Jim, Regarding the Pfalz or Bavaria issue, we had an oral history and a military document from the Bavarian army that my 3 grgrandfather, Joseph Pfeiffenberger, which indicated he was from Bavaria at that time (1845). However, being that Germany wasn't united until 1871, it was true that he was from Bavaria. When state lines were changed, his hometown, Hauenstein, which was listed on his military papers as his town of origin, was now in the Pfalz! So, at the time your ancestor immigrated, he could have been from Bavaria at that time! Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: <GGKinzer@aol.com> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Pfalz list Georg Leonhard Walter search > Jim, > Do you have his death certificate? That has been the source of place of > birth for my ggrandfather born Edenkoben. It was spelled wrong but the best clue > I had! > gilda > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ********* > Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/898 - Release Date: 7/12/2007 4:08 PM > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Walter" <jimwalter6@verizon.net> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 10:48 PM Subject: [Pfalz] Pfalz list Georg Leonhard Walter search > Hi Folks: > My person of interest --Georg Leonhard Walter was a Lutheran born in Sept 25 1832 .He died of an infection caused by a mining accident in Sept 16 1869. His first child (John Walter) was born in Oxford NJ in Aug 8 1853. He and his Wife Margaret Walter (no maiden name has been found) had a child almost every year after that until my Grandfather Thomas Roland Walter (the youngest child)was born in Nov 1867. > The church he attended ,Durham Evangelical of Durham PA, managed to lose the church records for the period of 1859 to 1870. I have a $200 reward out for their recovery.I still have to go through the newspapersfrom the Oxford NJ area as he lived there till 1859. He did start naturalization in 1858 but never showed up for his court hearing and so no data is available there.I have elicited the Mormons and various Genealogists to help find his origins but so far all (rather pricy!)efforts have failed. > I believe he was from the Pfalz because he was a Lutheran and a couple of his children listed him as being from Bavaria on the census of 1890 or 1880 . The first federal census I have found him on is the 1860 census od Durham PA. His name was spelled Leonard Walder instead of Walter which threw me off for a while.He and Margaret are said to be from Baden on that census but I have Exhausted my Baden search.(Baden archives of the Grand Duke etc.etc.) I have a signature on his will which is well done and does not match the other writing on the document. So I conclude that he was literate. > Any help would be much appreciated > Jim Walter > > ********* > Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/898 - Release Date: 7/12/2007 4:08 PM > >

Jim Walter wrote: > Hi Folks: My person of interest --Georg Leonhard Walter was a > Lutheran born in Sept 25 1832. What is your source for this exact birth date? And what is you source for his full name? He died of an infection caused by a > mining accident in Sept 16 1869. His first child (John Walter) was > born in Oxford NJ in Aug 8 1853. Is this John first found in the 1860 Census. I there any indication that there may have been earlier children who died before 1860. > He and his Wife Margaret Walter (no > maiden name has been found) had a child almost every year after that > until my Grandfather Thomas Roland Walter (the youngest child)was > born in Nov 1867. The church he attended ,Durham Evangelical of > Durham PA, Is that a Lutheran church or a Reformed Church> managed to lose the church records for the period of 1859 > to 1870. I have a $200 reward out for their recovery.I still have to > go through the newspapersfrom the Oxford NJ area as he lived there > till 1859. He did start naturalization in 1858 but never showed up > for his court hearing and so no data is available there.I have > elicited the Mormons and various Genealogists to help find his > origins but so far all (rather pricy!)efforts have failed. I believe > he was from the Pfalz because he was a Lutheran and a couple of his > children listed him as being from Bavaria on the census of 1890 or > 1880. The Lutheran church was widespread in Germany. Assuming he was from the Pfalz because of his religion is IMO a mistake. While the Pfalz was part of Bavaria at that time, the Lutheran and Reformed churches probably existed in the main part of Bavaria. The first federal census I have found him on is the 1860 > census of Durham PA. here was he reorded as being from in this Census? Have you looked for him in the New York and Philadelphia Passenger Arrivals Lists? If he was living in Oxford first it is likely that he came through Ne York. Searching for George Walter and Margaret Walter at: http://stevemorse.org/ellis/passengers.php?mode=ny finds a number of people that arrived between 1847 and 1853. Look at the records and see if any arrived on the same voyage. Look also for Leonard Walter. Have you read any histories of Warren County that mention the miners that came there and what port they may have entered through? His name was spelled Leonard Walder instead of > Walter which threw me off for a while.He and Margaret are said to be > from Baden on that census but I have Exhausted my Baden search.(Baden > archives of the Grand Duke etc.etc.) I have a signature on his will > which is well done and does not match the other writing on the > document. So I conclude that he was literate. bob gillis

Lisa, How can one get records of military service in the Bavarian army? My husband's ggrandfather, Adam Weidner, served about that same time. Susan -----Original Message----- From: pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pfalz-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Swovick Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:44 AM To: pfalz@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Pfalz list Georg Leonhard Walter search Dear Jim, Regarding the Pfalz or Bavaria issue, we had an oral history and a military document from the Bavarian army that my 3 grgrandfather, Joseph Pfeiffenberger, which indicated he was from Bavaria at that time (1845). However, being that Germany wasn't united until 1871, it was true that he was from Bavaria. When state lines were changed, his hometown, Hauenstein, which was listed on his military papers as his town of origin, was now in the Pfalz! So, at the time your ancestor immigrated, he could have been from Bavaria at that time! Lisa ----- Original Message ----- From: <GGKinzer@aol.com> To: <pfalz@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [Pfalz] Pfalz list Georg Leonhard Walter search > Jim, > Do you have his death certificate? That has been the source of place of > birth for my ggrandfather born Edenkoben. It was spelled wrong but the best clue > I had! > gilda > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ********* > Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.4/898 - Release Date: 7/12/2007 4:08 PM > > ********* Information for list members: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim, Do you have his death certificate? That has been the source of place of birth for my ggrandfather born Edenkoben. It was spelled wrong but the best clue I had! gilda ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Hi Folks: My person of interest --Georg Leonhard Walter was a Lutheran born in Sept 25 1832 .He died of an infection caused by a mining accident in Sept 16 1869. His first child (John Walter) was born in Oxford NJ in Aug 8 1853. He and his Wife Margaret Walter (no maiden name has been found) had a child almost every year after that until my Grandfather Thomas Roland Walter (the youngest child)was born in Nov 1867. The church he attended ,Durham Evangelical of Durham PA, managed to lose the church records for the period of 1859 to 1870. I have a $200 reward out for their recovery.I still have to go through the newspapersfrom the Oxford NJ area as he lived there till 1859. He did start naturalization in 1858 but never showed up for his court hearing and so no data is available there.I have elicited the Mormons and various Genealogists to help find his origins but so far all (rather pricy!)efforts have failed. I believe he was from the Pfalz because he was a Lutheran and a couple of his children listed him as being from Bavaria on the census of 1890 or 1880 . The first federal census I have found him on is the 1860 census od Durham PA. His name was spelled Leonard Walder instead of Walter which threw me off for a while.He and Margaret are said to be from Baden on that census but I have Exhausted my Baden search.(Baden archives of the Grand Duke etc.etc.) I have a signature on his will which is well done and does not match the other writing on the document. So I conclude that he was literate. Any help would be much appreciated Jim Walter

Thank you, Ann - now I'm REALLY confused - how come you saw it and Bob Gillis didn't see it, and said it's not in the archives? Maureen Schoenky (P.S. there's a story behind the spaghettitree) ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

To Bob Gillis and the list - This is the same exact addressee I used before - afraid I know much more about genealogy than computers - stripping out the html is Greek to me. Please tell me how I can "make sure it is in plain text". I have subscribed to the AOLERS-ROOTSWEB mailing list - but that does not tell me how to get to specific lists like this one. Here is the posting I wrote 11 July in response to the first inquiry on the above subject: "In order to find the village Georg Leonhard Walter came from you will need to scour every U.S. record you can get your hands on - there is no central repository in Germany so it would be very difficult to hunt all around over there. It would help if you include his wife's name, where they settled, dates of birth, marriage, death in your inquiry. If you are searching only on line, that's only one avenue and not all-inclusive. Have you checked out newspaper obits and other articles in English and German language papers? Before radio and telephones there were an amazing number of tiny articles about anyone and everyone - that was the best means of communication. Even if you don't read German Gothic you can recognize the name and dates. Cemetery and sexton and tombstone? Mortuary records? Memory cards? Naturalization? Probate? Siblings? Memberships like IOOF, Sons of Herman, Woodmen of America, Turnvereins and many more? Most especially, the church records here, plus application for marriage license; military service. Also remember those who lived nearby, often came from the same place. What did he do for a living - are there records of that place? Local historical society information? Schools? Do you have any knowledge of the dialect he spoke? Any recipes handed down with German names? Sauerkraut is not the same everywhere. Family traditions which sometimes indicate locality? Have you looked at cyndislist.com?" ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Maureen, (love the name) Your re-sent letter sounded so familiar, I went and looked for it where I had saved it for future reference in my German Research Tips mailbox, and here it is..July 11, 2007 For some reason, shortly before the real letter came, I also received a blank letter from you with only some AOL blurb in it. Ann in Iowa From: Spaghettitree@aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:42:54 EDT To: pfalz@rootsweb.com [blank letter] This is the info from the complete letter I've forwarded below. From: Spaghettitree@aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:01:37 EDT To: pfalz@rootsweb.com [actual letter] At 10:01 PM 7/11/2007, Spaghettitree@aol.com wrote: >In order to find the village Georg Leonhard Walter came from you will need to >scour every U.S. record you can get your hands on - there is no central >repository in Germany so it would be very difficult to hunt around >all over there. >It would help if you include his wife's name, where they settled, dates of >birth, marriage, death in your inquiry. > >If you are searching only on line, that's only one avenue and not >all-inclusive. Have you checked out newspaper obits and other >articles in English and >German language papers? Before radio and telephones there were an amazing >number of tiny articles about anyone and everyone - that was the >best means of >communication. Even if you don't read German Gothic you can >recognize the name >and dates. Cemetery and sexton and tombstone? Mortuary records? Memory >cards? Naturalization? Probate? Siblings? Memberships like IOOF, >Sons of Herman, >Woodmen of America, Turnvereins and many more? Most especially, the church >records here, plus application for marriage license; military service. Also >remember those who lived nearby, often came from the same >place. What did he >do for a living - are there records of that place? Local historical society >information? Schools? Do you have any knowledge of the dialect he >spoke? Any >recipes handed down with German names? Sauerkraut is not the same >everywhere. > Family traditions which sometimes indicate locality? Have you looked at >Cyndislist.com? > >Maureen Schoenky > > >************************************** > Get a sneak peak of >the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > >********* >Information for list members: >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PFALZ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message