I am searching for the parents of Jacob FUNK b. c. 1830 in Germany. He married Louisa Sternberger in Bottenbach, Pfalz, Bayern Germany. She was the daughter of Johan Christian STERNBERGER and Catharina WEBER. I am also looking for information on Johan Christian and Catharina. Jacob and Louisa came to America and settled in DuBois, Clearfield Co., PA where he worked as a blacksmith. The children of Jacob and Louisa are - Ella, Louisa, Emelin, Catherine, Elizabeth, Emma and Adam. Toni Ann Sallade tsallade@jps.net tsallade@freewwweb.com sallade@cerritos.edu

I'm new to the list and would like to correspond with anyone researching the GUTHMANN,GUTMAN,etc. families of the Pfalz area of Germany. Looking for the family of origin of a JOHANN MICHAEL GUTHAMNN, b. abt. 1694 in Germany. Thanks sherry dustyc@microgear.net

Virginia Sacristano wrote: > > My grandfather's declaration of intention for citizenship does not list > the area if Germany he came from. Instead he forswore any loyalty to > the King of Hanover. I was told he came from Frankfurt. Would that > city have been in Hanover? The year was 1849. Thanks > The declaration does tell you he was from Hanover and was a subject of the King of Hanover, Ernest Augustus. Neither Franfurt-on-Main nor Franfurt-on-Oder is in Hanover. bob gillis

My grandfather's declaration of intention for citizenship does not list the area if Germany he came from. Instead he forswore any loyalty to the King of Hanover. I was told he came from Frankfurt. Would that city have been in Hanover? The year was 1849. Thanks Virginia Parvin Sacristano e mail is Parvin@usnetway.com

Gene, The German IGI shows: Augustin GRILING misc: abt 1524 Neustadt Am Orla, S-w-e, Thuringen spouse: Mrs. Augustin GEILING source: Film 1553511 an LDS submission Earl Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Van Gaalen <genevg@earthlink.net> To: <PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 9:54 PM Subject: [PFALZ] Geilings > Hi, > I am tracing the family Geilings who lived > in Moers and Vluyn Germany in the 1500 > and 1600 if not could somebody tell me > where I could find the information > concerning them > Thanks, > Gene. >

At 6:16 AM -0500 4/9/2000, Mml45@aol.com wrote: > >Yesterday I went to the library again... This time I found a >library (in Va) that had all 64 books of Germans to America... Can >someone explain why, if you can guess, I didn't find my MELKUS >families in this book.. Michael Palmer's review of the first nine volumes of the Germans to America series can be found at: <http://www2.genealogy.net/gene/www/emig/gta-revu.html> This will give you some idea of the many problems with the GTA series and should help you to understand how your MELKUS families could have been missed. Brian -- Brian Bauer rbull@facstaff.wisc.edu

Mml45@aol.com wrote: > >Can > someone explain why, if you can guess, I didn't find my MELKUS > families in this book.. One family of MELKUS I know left Antwerp > to NY on July 1883 and yet I couldn't even find that family > when I knew that much... > I downloaded some time ago a copy of an article by Prof. Dr. Antonius Holtzmann which was originally published in The Palatine Immingrant 22(1997)2, 80-87 which is quite critical of the GtA. He mntions that Germans who were American citizens returning to the USA are not included and this may be your case. Holtzmann also cites several other omissions of towns and people who were German. Also the manifest may not have said Germany or Bavaria so they would not have been counted. Also if the ship stopped at another port after leaving antwerp and arriving in NY it may not have been considered. However almost any compilation of records is subject to mistakes and omissions. >And my great-grandfather was in America > in the 1880 census with a wife and 7 year old child born in America so > I was guessing he might have arrived before the marriage so that > would put his arrival sometime between 1860-1870.. > Have you found your ggf in the 1870 Census? If not it is likely he arrived after 1870. > Well my husband > and I looked through all 64 books and we found 2 other Melkus > folks but not any of my family. > (MELKUS is an unusual name so when you find it you feel lucky) > Did you look at any spelling similar to MELKUS: Milkus, Melcus, Malkus? I found my wife Stilp ancestors in GtA but the name was spelled Stilb which is how it is spelled today in Heltersberg, the Pfalz. > I have a copy of the passage for the Karl MELKUS that left > Kaiserslautern and went to Antwerp, Belgium dated 25 July 1883. It > was for Karl, > Margaretha Diehl Melkus and children: Karl age 6, Wilhelm age 3 and Berta > age 14 months. This paper says: " Deuthsche Reich. Königreich Bayern. > No. 245 des Register. Reise-Pass. Karl MELKUS was born in Otterberg, > Germany in 1850." Is it possible that he was not a German citizen? > There were no "German citizens" in those years. Germany was a confederation of smaller states. They would have been citizens of the Kingdom of Bavaria(Bayern). > I have a birth certificate for my Great-grandfather Franz MELKUS born > Nov. 17, 1840 in Otterberg Germany. In fact all of his brothers and > sisters were born in Otterberg as I have found each on at the LDS > library on microfilm... Does any one have guesses of these MELKUS > brothers and sisters not being citizens of Germany, as I was assuming? > I do not know where Otterberg is nor do you say but I assume it is in the Pfalz. As above they were citizens and subjects of the Kingdom of Bavaria. But what significance do you attach to their being citizens of Germany? How do Franz and Karl connect? Is Franz in the 1900 Census and when does it say he came to the USA? Have you found his naturalization record? If another look at GtA comes up with nothing now is the time to go to the passenger arrival lists at NARA. There are a lot but you can find ships coming from Antwerp as there is a list of ships arriving with the port of departure. bob gillis

Could someone tell me what county Nanzdietschweiler is located in within Pflaz. I believe that it had been consolidated from the villages of Nanzweiler and Dietschweiler. My paternal grandparents Johann Nicholas SCHNEIDER and Katharina RUTH came from these villages. Thanks Norm Schneider

Agriswold@aol.com schrieb: > But I have not been able to locate Obermiesau, Pfalz, Bayern. > One record showed Miesau with (Obermiesau) after it, which I took to mean > just a different version of the same town. Am I right about that? Can anyone > tell me where to find this town? I used Geo and it came back without a > location. Thanks for any help you can give me. > Jean Hi Jean, it's now called Bruchmuehlbach-Miesau. Data from GEO is: Bruchmühlbach-Miesau GKZ : 07 3 35 003 County : | | +---- Kaiserslautern {KL} RegBez : | +------- Rheinhessen-Pfalz Land : +--------- Rheinland-Pfalz ZIP : 66892 Popul : 7104 Locat : 49d23m N 7d26m E Maps : TK25 6610 Homburg TK50 L6710 Pirmasens-Nord Euro Hc52 Hope this helps, best regards -- Fred Krebs fred@krebs-onl.de www.krebs-onl.de www.krebs-onl.de/genealogy www.krebs-onl.de/pfalz Tel +49 6353/915200 Fax +49 6353/915201

Hello Everyone, Yesterday I went to the library again... This time I found a library(in Va) that had all 64 books of Germans to America... Can someone explain why, if you can guess, I didn't find my MELKUS families in this book.. One family of MELKUS I know left Antwerp to NY on July 1883 and yet I couldn't even find that family when I knew that much... And my great-grandfather was in America in the 1880 census with a wife and 7 year old child born in America so I was guessing he might have arrived before the marriage so that would put his arrival sometime between 1860-1870.. Well my husband and I looked through all 64 books and we found 2 other Melkus folks but not any of my family. (MELKUS is an unusual name so when you find it you feel lucky) I have a copy of the passage for the Karl MELKUS that left Kaiserslautern and went to Antwerp, Belgium dated 25 July 1883. It was for Karl, Margaretha Diehl Melkus and children: Karl age 6, Wilhelm age 3 and Berta age 14 months. This paper says: " Deuthsche Reich. Königreich Bayern. No. 245 des Register. Reise-Pass. Karl MELKUS was born in Otterberg, Germany in 1850." Is it possible that he was not a German citizen? I have a birth certificate for my Great-grandfather Franz MELKUS born Nov. 17, 1840 in Otterberg Germany. In fact all of his brothers and sisters were born in Otterberg as I have found each on at the LDS library on microfilm... Does any one have guesses of these MELKUS brothers and sisters not being citizens of Germany, as I was assuming? Any ideas why they are not in the book, German to America? Thank you for your time and any clues you can offer.... Margaret Maryland, USA

Hi, I am tracing the family Geilings who lived in Moers and Vluyn Germany in the 1500 and 1600 if not could somebody tell me where I could find the information concerning them Thanks, Gene.

Hello List, I finally found the name of the town my great grandmother emigrated from in 1852. But I have not been able to locate Obermiesau, Pfalz, Bayern. One record showed Miesau with (Obermiesau) after it, which I took to mean just a different version of the same town. Am I right about that? Can anyone tell me where to find this town? I used Geo and it came back without a location. Thanks for any help you can give me. Jean

Hello to All, My ancestry descends from three brothers, Johannes, Friederich, and Paulus Schorb who embarked at Rotterdam and arrived in Philadelphia in September of 1749. Paulus was listed on the manifest with his correct last name, but Johannes and Friederich were listed under the name Shurp. Paulus and Friederich signed the manifest, but Johannes just made his mark, apparently unable to write. I had previously been told they were from Koblenz, but research in Koblenz failed to disclose any record of them. Is there any source of information which would be able to assist in finding the location from which they came? Do emigration visa records exist that far back? Brian Shorb Fairfax, VA USA BearShorb@aol.com

That's the Counts of Zweibrucken's palace in the Pfalz. David Staudt wrote: > > I am searching to clarify some information I have on my 6x > great-grandfather. In a book written about his lineage (in German) it says > about him: > > Kurkoln Geheimrat - Gesandter at the Court of Phalz-Zweibruken > > which I think translates roughly that he was an Elector (elected official) > or Ambassador at the Court of Phalz-Zweibruken. > > Does anyone know what this Court of Pfalz-Zweibruken is - or what this > position means at that time in history? This is for Giuseppe Maria > v.Fumetti (1670-1730) and I think refers to a time after 1696 which is about > the time he emigrated from Italy to Germany. > > Thank you for any help you are able to offer! > > Karla Von Fumetti Staudt > Ticonderoga, NY, USA

I am seeking leads on one of my maternal, paternal lines: Minnie Etta Longbrake was the daughter of HARMON LONGBRAKE and Mary Ann Fellers. Minnie was born 1871 in Wood Co., OH and died 1956 in Hancock County OH. I am seeking information on HOW this apparently GERMAN family emigrated from England? Would like to correspond with others researching LONGBRAKES in OH, VA/WVA and PA ( Joan L- we are already acquainted!) Thank you all in advance, Margaret Shank in Arvada, CO

I am searching to clarify some information I have on my 6x great-grandfather. In a book written about his lineage (in German) it says about him: Kurkoln Geheimrat - Gesandter at the Court of Phalz-Zweibruken which I think translates roughly that he was an Elector (elected official) or Ambassador at the Court of Phalz-Zweibruken. Does anyone know what this Court of Pfalz-Zweibruken is - or what this position means at that time in history? This is for Giuseppe Maria v.Fumetti (1670-1730) and I think refers to a time after 1696 which is about the time he emigrated from Italy to Germany. Thank you for any help you are able to offer! Karla Von Fumetti Staudt Ticonderoga, NY, USA

Hi Someone was nice enough to send me this ship listing. Can anyone translate it for me? Thank you in advance. Linda

Hello, Yes I do know the town, just for got to add it. He was born in Trier, and he emigrated to Canada in the 1930's. From what I understand he came from a fairly well off family as he was tutored. I don't know if any of this helps, I sent several queries to the Trier list but got only one reply and it was a virus! Thanks so much, Carrie ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy V. Podella <nvpodella@home.com> To: Carrie Layne Mashon <rmashon@telusplanet.net> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [PFALZ] LOOK-UPs! > Do you know what town he was born in? and who he may have married? > > Nancy > > > Carrie Layne Mashon wrote: > > > > My Fathers name was Erich Anton Weber. Born January 10, 1906. I would like > > to know the names of his parents and any siblings. Thanks so much > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Joseph Kaemerer <towjoe42@wwdb.org> > > To: Carrie Layne Mashon <rmashon@telusplanet.net> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 11:44 PM > > Subject: Re: [PFALZ] LOOK-UPs! > > > > > CArrie, what was your fathers surname? Town? aprox year of birth, > > > death? > > > Married, to who, and when? I cannot do any lookups, as I do not have > > > the resources, but if you have just a tinny bit more information to > > > addend to yor post I am sure some one can help you. Joe > > > >

I am seeking anyone who may have the family tree maker CD's Vol 43, 354, 355 or 273. I am interested in finding information on passenger lists for several names and the direct Stockert links to Katherina Stockert in tree #1310. If anyone is willing to do lookups, please contact me directly at timeless@gfherald.infi.net. Thanks in advance for your help. Linda

Brunner brothers, Heinrich, age 24 & Paul, age 28, arrived in America in 1736. They were among emigrants from Pfungstadt, Darmstadt-Dieburg, Hessen. Who were their parents?