Betty and Diana, This is the first time have seen the name VIEHL in any of my newsgroups. I have an Albert VIEHL from the Newport area of Rhode Island, b. circa 1896. He married Margaret RITTER of Elizabeth New Jersey. They had three children, Margaret, Helen, and Albert. After divorcing in the early 20's, Margaret and the children stayed in Elizabeth. I believe Albert, Sr., remarried in Newport, where he died. Ruth St. Augustine, FL ablee@aug.com At 13:20 07/12/2000 -0700, diane weber wrote: >Betty, >Your query caught my eye because of the name VIEHL. I am researching Viel >(various spellings of course): Johann Michael Viel from Mansbach >(1780's -- ??), he married Charlotte Walch; their sons Rheinhard and August >Viel from Borsch, Saxony (1800--1830's). August married Maria Anna Dauner, >daughter of Phillip and Eleanor Amer Dauner . August came to the U.S. in >1837 first to PA, then near Cincinnati. >I am interested in any Viehl info you have. Let me know if you think there >may be a connection. >Thank you, >Diane Weber > >-----Original Message----- >From: PSI4E@aol.com <PSI4E@aol.com> >To: PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com <PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Saturday, January 15, 2000 7:33 PM >Subject: [PFALZ] Elizabeth or Catherine Gass > > > >Looking for Catherine or may also go by the name of Elizabeth Gass who was > >born in 1830. She was from near Stuttgard or Kaisershauton Bavaria Germany > >Her husband was Charles Gass. > >They had a daughter name Andre Viel who lived in Bildstock in 1903. Anrea's > >husbands' name may have been Railburn Viehl. Andrea at the time had a son >18 > >that was in school in Bidstock and another son name Fritz, 20 ,in school in > >Saarburge. The address of Andrea Viehl in 1903 said -- Bildstok post > >Fredericks Thal--We have a picture of one of these boys around 1903 that is > >wearing a dress military uniform. It looks like it would be a school > >military uniform with hat that has a large plum.This picture was taken at > >Ludwigsburg. The photographer could be R. Wetzig. > > Elizabeth or Catherine Gass may also have had a son name Wilhelm Gass and > >wife Carolyn from Karlsrue. > > I have been trying to find out about these people for along time. Their > >daughter Elizath Gass had come to America as a young child . She was born >in > >1869. Yesterday I was fianally able to find her marriage license from th >NY > >City Archives. It gave the name of the hometown her mother had lived in >at > >the time of her marriage in 1889 To Joseph Wagner from Wastenhausen > >Wurtenburg.He was born there to Bernard (could have middle name of Joseph > >)Wagner and mother was Elizabeth Gaerh (last letter could be a k in Gareh > >hard to read )Joseph was born there in 1863 and came to America at 22 years > >old. > > > >I hope with all of this writing that someone will direct me to what to do. > >This is all I know about them and we want so very much to find whatever we > >can HELP!! I would appreiate this a million. > >Betty > > 15/ JAN / 2000 > > > > > >==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== > >Sister or Brother, > >Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? > >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal > > > > >==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== >Going on vacation longer than 4 days? >send your message to Pfalz-L-request@rootsweb.com (click and ready to go) >mailto:Pfalz-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe

Can anyone translate the German words souph un fress?

Hi Everyone, My computer crashed and I lost all my bookmarks :- ( Can you pleases help and send me some of your favorites.. Thank you so much for the help. BarB barbbuck@pacbell.net

Looking for information or connections to these people: Joseph KESLER of Kleinfischlingen and Eva Catharina JAECK (JACK) of Essingen. Their oldest child was Anna Maria, born 1802. The rest of the children were born over the next twenty one years, making the first and last ones twenty-two years apart! They are Maria Katharine, Joseph, Maria Appollonia, John Michael, who died at age three months, and Catharine, in addition to three brothers who came to Missouri, Jacob, Michael, and John Adam. The maternal grandparents of the family were Nicolaus JACK and Anna Marie MAJOR, and on the father's side, the grandparents were Andreas Franz KESLER originally from Weingarten near the Rhine in a wine region, and Appolonia BUECHLER (BIEGLER). The BUECHLER family has a history of migration from Switzerland, where they lived in the Simmenthal area near Bern, working as shepherds and cow herders.

Christine, In response to your query, I am researching the surname Schmidt. Unfortunately , this is so common it is a difficult task! I have: Elizabeth Schmidt, born 1813 in Kandel, Germesheim (obit says in Preussen). Cannot find info on parents. The obit is from a church book and the minister's handwriting is quite scribbly. She came to the U.S. in 1835 with Johann Dieter Kolb (also of Kandel), landed in New Orleans and were married there, moved to Cincinnati, then to Indiana. She died in 1888 in Dearborn County Indiana. Good luck with your research Diane Weber -----Original Message----- From: Christine Harris <charris@mwis.net> To: PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com <PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, January 20, 2000 5:10 AM Subject: [PFALZ] Fw: MY Family - Neuhemsbach, Mehlingen, Dannenfels, Bischeim, Gonbach, Sippersfeld, ETC > >My mother is from a very small town close to Kaiserslautern Germany. Some of >the main families I am searching for are as follows with the areas: >Baab - Neuhemsbach, Gonbach, Dannenfels >Fuege - Sippersfeld, Bischeim >Michel - Neuhemsbach, Sippersfeld, Mehlingen, Wartenburg >Klingenschmitt (various spellings) Bischeim, Sippersfeld >Schmidt- Drehenthalerhof >Berker - Drehenthalerhof >Baum - Sippersfeld >Sokoly - Mehlingen >Fuersrt - Mehlingen >Emig - Dannenfels >Harth - Gonbach >Holzheimer - Gonbach >Klag - Neuhemsbach >Bischoff - Neuhemsbach > >Anyone working on these lines in the area I may be able to help. I have a >history of Enkenbach- Alsenborn that has a lot of these families traced for >some time anyway. > >Let me hear from you if you have a connection. I am also trying to find a >published history of Dannenfels, GER anyone out there know of one? > >Christine Harris > > > >==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== >Sister or Brother >Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal >

Betty, Your query caught my eye because of the name VIEHL. I am researching Viel (various spellings of course): Johann Michael Viel from Mansbach (1780's -- ??), he married Charlotte Walch; their sons Rheinhard and August Viel from Borsch, Saxony (1800--1830's). August married Maria Anna Dauner, daughter of Phillip and Eleanor Amer Dauner . August came to the U.S. in 1837 first to PA, then near Cincinnati. I am interested in any Viehl info you have. Let me know if you think there may be a connection. Thank you, Diane Weber -----Original Message----- From: PSI4E@aol.com <PSI4E@aol.com> To: PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com <PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, January 15, 2000 7:33 PM Subject: [PFALZ] Elizabeth or Catherine Gass >Looking for Catherine or may also go by the name of Elizabeth Gass who was >born in 1830. She was from near Stuttgard or Kaisershauton Bavaria Germany >Her husband was Charles Gass. >They had a daughter name Andre Viel who lived in Bildstock in 1903. Anrea's >husbands' name may have been Railburn Viehl. Andrea at the time had a son 18 >that was in school in Bidstock and another son name Fritz, 20 ,in school in >Saarburge. The address of Andrea Viehl in 1903 said -- Bildstok post >Fredericks Thal--We have a picture of one of these boys around 1903 that is >wearing a dress military uniform. It looks like it would be a school >military uniform with hat that has a large plum.This picture was taken at >Ludwigsburg. The photographer could be R. Wetzig. > Elizabeth or Catherine Gass may also have had a son name Wilhelm Gass and >wife Carolyn from Karlsrue. > I have been trying to find out about these people for along time. Their >daughter Elizath Gass had come to America as a young child . She was born in >1869. Yesterday I was fianally able to find her marriage license from th NY >City Archives. It gave the name of the hometown her mother had lived in at >the time of her marriage in 1889 To Joseph Wagner from Wastenhausen >Wurtenburg.He was born there to Bernard (could have middle name of Joseph >)Wagner and mother was Elizabeth Gaerh (last letter could be a k in Gareh >hard to read )Joseph was born there in 1863 and came to America at 22 years >old. > >I hope with all of this writing that someone will direct me to what to do. >This is all I know about them and we want so very much to find whatever we >can HELP!! I would appreiate this a million. >Betty > 15/ JAN / 2000 > > >==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== >Sister or Brother, >Can you spare $10 dollars to support Rootsweb? >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html#personal >

HELLO= I have a Weissmann in my ancestory. My gggrandfather Peter Franck married Gertruda Weissmann in 1857 in Munchweiler Alsenz. It was the area both families were living. The parents of Gertruda was Peter Weissmann and Anna Elisabetha Beck. Do you have any connection? Jean Tremble jtremble@win.bright.com Jim & Judy Gallogly wrote: > Sippersfeld and Breunigweile are the only two places that I know that my > Weissmann/Wiseman lived. I have a IGI Record that says Joh. Peter Weissnamm > was christening 16, Oct. 1729 , Evangelisch, Sippersfeld, Pfalz, Bayern. > Tell me if the last part is the church, city,County, and ?. I would like to > go see the church in Sept. . How far is Sipp. from Breun. I hope to go to a > church in both of the cities. Do the have a archives in either city?. I > will be back with more questions I am sure. Thanks Judy Gallogly ,Iowa > > ==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? > send your message to Pfalz-L-request@rootsweb.com (click and ready to go) > mailto:Pfalz-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe

Is anyone familiar with or have knowledge of Joes (Johann) Petri CANI and his wife Margaretha Catharina who were starting their family in KRIEGSHEIM (Griesheim, Griegsheim), Pfalz, Germany in 1737? KRIEGSHEIM is adjacent to MONSHEIM. LDS microfilm #957807 shows the birth record of apparently their first child, Maria Catharina, 18 September 1737. Joes Petri was my 5-great grandfather, and it is the first record I can find of this family. Problem: Where did Joes Petri CANI live before KRIEGSHEIM? Who were his parents? This is my "stone wall", and I can't seem to get past it! Any help would be greatly appreciated. E. Edward Kani eedkani707@cs.com

GG-G Johann Tobias Kall b.1799 m.Anna Elisabetha Fischer 1829 G-G Ludwig Tobias Kall b.Nov 1829 Emigrated 1836 to Pittsburgh (Vicinity of), Allegheny County, PA. Would like to contact others researching Kall (& Spelling Variations) in the area of Kallstadt. Bob

Karen- I have sent this url to the list before so I'll simply suggest it to you. It is for the Pirmasens Genealogy Group. They are local to where you are interested and while they are researching largely Roman Catholic church books, they have wealth of knowledge about what is available in the local area. In my experience about 1713 /14 is when many Church books begin so good luck! Rob Hausman http://home.t-online.de/home/braun.b/geneengl.html t 07:44 PM 7/11/00 -0400, you wrote: >As an addition to my earlier posting, I have the exact location of the >record of Conrad's confirmation. I was contacted by two wonderful >researchers, Al and Margaret Spiry, Sr., who felt the church where Conrad >Dietz was confirmed was most likely the place of his baptism. So I am >including the source of my information in hopes that someone out there >might know of the place. The author of the information was : >Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Hinterweidenthal (BA. Pirmasens). The >title: Kirchenbuch 1713-1946. Conrad was born in 1711, just before this >record begins. If I could find an earlier book, I might be able to wrap >up his genealogy. If anyone can help me do this I would be eternally grateful. >Sincerely, >Karen Deeds-Jarvie :-) >Bowling Green, Ohio >Deeds@bghost.net > > >==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== >Going on vacation longer than 4 days? >send your message to Pfalz-L-request@rootsweb.com (click and ready to go) >mailto:Pfalz-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Robert E. Hausman hausman@bu.edu www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/a/u/Robert-E-Hausman/index.html

As an addition to my earlier posting, I have the exact location of the record of Conrad's confirmation. I was contacted by two wonderful researchers, Al and Margaret Spiry, Sr., who felt the church where Conrad Dietz was confirmed was most likely the place of his baptism. So I am including the source of my information in hopes that someone out there might know of the place. The author of the information was : Evangelisch-Reformierte Kirche Hinterweidenthal (BA. Pirmasens). The title: Kirchenbuch 1713-1946. Conrad was born in 1711, just before this record begins. If I could find an earlier book, I might be able to wrap up his genealogy. If anyone can help me do this I would be eternally grateful. Sincerely, Karen Deeds-Jarvie :-) Bowling Green, Ohio Deeds@bghost.net

Sippersfeld and Breunigweile are the only two places that I know that my Weissmann/Wiseman lived. I have a IGI Record that says Joh. Peter Weissnamm was christening 16, Oct. 1729 , Evangelisch, Sippersfeld, Pfalz, Bayern. Tell me if the last part is the church, city,County, and ?. I would like to go see the church in Sept. . How far is Sipp. from Breun. I hope to go to a church in both of the cities. Do the have a archives in either city?. I will be back with more questions I am sure. Thanks Judy Gallogly ,Iowa

If anyone else on the list researching specifically in Zweibruchen and Althornbach? Over the years, I've been able to extract some information at LDS on these two areas. But I understand that many records were destroyed during the wars that historically occurred. What has been your experience trying to find data? I would be most interested in the exchange of ideas. The search has been very frustrating. For example, the founding relative in my Dietz family is Conrad Dietz. His obituary stated that he was born in Althornbach in July of 1711. What little I have been able to find at LDS does not confirm this. I do have a record of his confirmation in Zweibruchen. Unfortunately, there are several parental pairings that could belong to him. I need the baptism to ascertain his mother's name. This would be most helpful. Any ideas? I believe I've scoured every Zweibruchen record available through LDS. Many thanks in advance! Karen Deeds-Jarvie :-) Bowling Green, Ohio

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Hi: Those of you with ancestors from the Kaiserslautern-Enkenbach-Hochspeyer area of the Pfalz may be interested in a book that I have just published. It is a genealogy of the Wellstein Family beginning with Antonious Wellstein (b ~ 1650) and his wife Anna Rosina ? in the Wetzlar area of Germany (Arborn). They had three children, two of which are documented, and the book includes descendants of these two (Bernhard and Melchior). Some people immigrated to the US, others went to Canada and Switzerland and many others stayed in Germany. The hard cover 400-page book has a complete index of names for each of the 908 individuals listed (women are indexed by both their married and born names) as well as 213 pictures of family members. Other major family names in the book include, Sprengart, and Kronenberger as these families intermarried consistently through the years. There are of course other family names as well, but I don't want to bore everyone with a complete listing. If you are interested, please e-mail me personally. Ruth

Kathy, have you tried the Family History Library at LDS to see if they have records on film for any of the places you are interested in? Marian

Hello everyone! I'm new to the list and hoping someone out there might be able to help me with the following families: Johann Nicolaus TREBER ch. 1660 Wöllstein, Germany; occ: Wheelwright; d.bef 1711. ...married Anna Maria HOFFMAN, ch. 1672, married in 1693 Peter TREBER/TREVER ch. 1699 Wöllstein, Germany ...married Anna Catherina Dorothea LUV Peter and Anna immigrated to America, settling in the Teerbosch, NY area. Anna Elisabetha TREBER, cf. 1740 Teerbosch, NY ...married Nicolaus BOHNENSTEIHL. *Thanks to anyone with information or suggestions on finding more info on these families. ......Marcy Ugstad Oregon, USA

I have copies of birth, marriage, and death certificates that my great uncle got 40 years ago from Germany. I want to write to these same places and need some help. On two of the certificates is a stamp mark with the words "Freistaat Bayern Gemeinde Schmitshausen". On two others is written these locations: Wallhalben-Oberhausen and Schallodenbach-Pfalz (Catholic rectory is mentioned also). Does anyone know the meaning of and/or how I could write to these places? Also does anyone know how I can get vital statistic information from Zweibruchen concerning births, baptisms (Catholic), and marriages? On two of these documents there is a farm mentioned called Wickelhof (near Schallodenbach), and a "Cross Chapel". Are either of these familiar to anyone? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Kathy bigelow@teleport.com

Just saw the subject posting and reply of your trip to subject town. That is a very small town, and has no historian. It does have a church shown on the Atlas. The suggestions you got are good, except we take exception to your being advised to use Frankfurtas an operating base. The reason is that Gimbsheim is due south of the large city of Mainz (that city is quite a piece west of Frankfurt). Since you will be driving from Frankfurt, go west to Mainz, and make that your operation center. Then take Highway 9 south going through towns of Oppenheim, and to Guntersblum, there a road goes off to the southeast (left) about3 km you are in Gimbsheim. The atlas shows a Church, and possibly the priest or minister will let you look at the church records. The town is too small to have a historian. Bob is correct in suggesting that you avail yourself of the network of the Deutsche Bundesbahn. It is cheaper, and easier than trying to find your way around driving any distance. Have a good trip. Al and Margaret.

Looking for Findler families of Mittelbrunn early to mid 1700s. How far is Mittelbrunn from Oberauerbach and Winterbach? Would it have been an "easy" trip in early 1700s?