I also connected with the site. Was very impressive with all the stuff to look at, but at the same time very confusing for me to see what you could do with all the information. All I could make out was that it was a very large index of the resources that you had to go someplace and Purchase something from someone. I guess you could narrow down the information you were looking for to one of the resources for sale, and then that may get you some specific information if you purchased the material. I think more and more we are going to have to start paying for the information we get on line. That is ok, everybody needs to make a profit if they are in business, or just there to help us, they still need to cover their expenses. I could not see any thing at all that would help the average person looking for some basic information. Of course I could be speaking from an uninformed, and inexperienced viewpoint, as I only spent two hours there trying to find anything that I could use (with not much money to spend). Joseph

Margaret, Did you just stop in or did you have to make a prioe appointment? Karen > > I stopped in at the location of this Institute in Kaiserslautern this > past July. > They have 2 different card files .... One by name and the other by town > My relatives were not in either place... > leaving the following year. > > The lady working in Kaiserslautern told me they have many people but > not everyone listed in their card file for immigration... > > Margaret in Maryland > > ==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > to unsubscribe

Good Morning, Is anyone researching the name BILDHEIMER? The information I have is: Apollonia Bildheimer, born abt Mar 1797, Grevenhausen, Rhineland Pfalz was a d/o Johannes Bildheimer [lived and died Grevenhausen] and Anna Maria Sabbathne [born Grevenhausen; died Lambrecht.] Apollonia BILDHEIMER m. Heinrich WEBER [c1800 Lambrecht; d. bef 1852 Lambrecht. Their son Friedrich W. Weber is my husband's great-grandfather. The facts presented above are based solely on the following information: 1. Letter dated 22 February, 1995, from Rosemarie Regenauer, Evangelische Kirche Der Pfalz (Protestantische Landeskirche), Landeskirchenrat, wherein she stated ".........In confirmation register of 4 April 1852 (Palm Sunday) record of the pastor, that the father of Friedrich W. Weber, Heinrich Weber, is deceased. The mother is of the Catholic religion (Apollonia Bildheimer). Perhaps this one hint might help you. With friendly best regards, s/Rosemarie Regenauer." I have done numerous searches and have been unable to locate anyone with the surname BILDHEIMER living in Germany today. Also, searches conducted on various U.S. search engines [Rootsweb, etc.] have found no individual with the surname BILDHEIMER. A research trip to Lambrecht, and surrounding areas of Germany, also resulted in blank pages on the BILDHEIMER line. This is the Lambrecht located near Kaiserslautern. Any assistance or suggestions will be most appreciated. LaDoris Doughty Weber eva@cvtv.net

Can anyone tell me what the German spelling of Shofner would be? This is probably a phonetic spelling. Thank you rjgpneveaux@worldnet.att.net

The Institute is headed by Dr. Paul, who speaks and writes fluent English, and is often a lecturer in the States. It should be no problem to write there in English. As Margaret said, not everyone is listed in their files, but they are still quite extensive. And anyone who has information about the emigration of their ancestors should send that data in, as they are eager to become as complete as possible. :-) I believe they are state-supported. Donations are not necessary, but something to cover postage to America ($5) would be nice. Carol

Need help translating the word Katenmann taken from a church registry. alex

I am looking for my family and ancesters who are on this list could any one help. I also am looking for my brother is in Germany who I have never seen. His name is Walter Sehrbrock. Thank you so very much Parson Rik Sehrbrock Descendants of Thieme Generation No. 1 1. THIEME1 He married LILLY KAROLINE DAHL. She was born 1864 in Bod Soden, Deustchland. Children of THIEME and LILLY DAHL are: i. ANNA2 THIEME. 2. ii. JOHANNA HANSEL THIEME, b. March 20, 1894, Strassburg (Koln); d. 1926, 11-28-1931. Generation No. 2 2. JOHANNA HANSEL2 THIEME (THIEME1) was born March 20, 1894 in Strassburg (Koln), and died 1926 in 11-28-1931. She married SIGMUND BOGL (BOEGL) August 06, 1920 in Koln, Deutschland (Germany). He was born May 02, 1897 in Koln (Germany), and died February 1967 in 93701 Fresno, Fresno, CA. Notes for JOHANNA HANSEL THIEME: 331-05-3518 IL (Before 1951) Child of JOHANNA THIEME and SIGMUND BOGL (BOEGL) is: 3. i. INGEBORG RUTH3 BOGL (BOEGL), b. July 22, 1924, Koln, Germany. Generation No. 3 3. INGEBORG RUTH3 BOGL (BOEGL) (JOHANNA HANSEL2 THIEME, THIEME1)1 was born July 22, 1924 in Koln, Germany1. She married KARL-HENIZ JULIUS SEHRBROCK1 1965 in Detroit, Mich, son of FRITZ LOHMOLLER and MARIA SEHRBROCK. He was born February 14, 1927 in Frankfurt, Germany1, and died November 02, 1994 in Mariposa, California, Mariposa County USA1. Children of INGEBORG BOGL (BOEGL) and KARL-HENIZ SEHRBROCK are: i. WALTER4 SEHRBROCK1, b. 19501. 4. ii. RICHARD HENNING SEHRBROCK, b. June 08, 1956. Generation No. 4 4. RICHARD HENNING4 SEHRBROCK (INGEBORG RUTH3 BOGL (BOEGL), JOHANNA HANSEL2 THIEME, THIEME1)1 was born June 08, 19561. He married SHERRI DIANE CLAYTON1 November 05, 1992 in Purdy, Mo, Barry County, USA1, daughter of LLOYD CLAYTON and MARY REAGAN. She was born January 03, 1970 in Cassville, Mo, Barry County, USA1. Children of RICHARD SEHRBROCK and SHERRI CLAYTON are: i. KRISTIAN CRAWFORD5 SEHRBROCK1, b. April 08, 19891. ii. MICAH SEHRBROCK1, b. April 22, 19911. iii. NICOLAS SEHRBROCK1, b. June 28, 19931. iv. STEPHEN SEHRBROCK1, b. March 17, 19961. v. HANNAH SEHRBROCK1, b. August 19, 19971. vi. ANGELIKA SEHRBROCK1, b. September 08, 19981.

In a message dated 9/17/00 10:11:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MBorger548@aol.com writes: << If I find anyone who has had experience with the Institut fur Pfalzische Geschichte, will let the list know. Margery >> Hi Margery and All, I stopped in at the location of this Institute in Kaiserslautern this past July. They have 2 different card files .... One by name and the other by town My relatives were not in either place... But the town where my relatives once lived have published a book.. in 1999, " 300 Jahre Auswanderung aus Otterberg" and in this book it lists my great grandfather his birth and his parents and when he immigrated to the USA. It also his his brother leaving the following year. The lady working in Kaiserslautern told me they have many people but not everyone listed in their card file for immigration... Margaret in Maryland

Elisabetha WILLRICH was born to Karl Jacob WILLRICH and Karolina MOHR on 27 November 1857 in the village of NuBbach, Kanton Lautereiten?, district of Kaiserslautern in the palatinate of the kingdom of Bavaria. Her siblings were: Carolina b. 1844; Carl b. 1847; Charlotta b. 1849; Carolina b. 1852; Friedrich 1860. Elizabetha/Elizabeth WILLRICH immigrated to NY about 1884. She was married to a August Julius ARNOLD not sure where the marriage was but had a son born 1879 in NY. She married my great grandfather Johann Joseph LAUMEISTER in IL 10th of Nov. 1885. Not sure if the brothers Carl or Friedrich came to US or not. One of Elisabeth's sisters Carolina or Charlotta married a HAHNENBERGER. The daughter of this marriage was Luise and she married a STEITZ. According to Luise's letter (dated 1947) she had 2 sons and her mother died in 1939. Luise lived at 22b Ludwigshafen on the Rhein, Lederstrasse nr. 5, French Zone Germany in her 1947 letter. Thank you so much for your help. BarB barbbuck@pacbell.net

Florence & LaDoris, Thank you so very much for finding the info on the internet; I found it right away by following the menu, Emigration, German and American Sources, and the Palatinate. That is quite an interesting German genealogy site. If I find anyone who has had experience with the Institut fur Pfalzische Geschichte, will let the list know. Margery

If you will use the following URL, then follow the menu, you will reach the desired site: www.genealogy.net/ LaDoris ========================================= At 12:01 AM 9/17/00 -0400, smada@webtv.net wrote: >I am sorry the www site I posted did not work. I have no other. As I >said I got this info by going to the GOOGLE search engine and entered >Fritz Braun---I posted the info which was relevant to the card index... >you might try the google thing and see what you get. It's a terrific >search, gives lots of foreign sites. >Florence > > >==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== >Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html >to unsubscribe

I am sorry the www site I posted did not work. I have no other. As I said I got this info by going to the GOOGLE search engine and entered Fritz Braun---I posted the info which was relevant to the card index... you might try the google thing and see what you get. It's a terrific search, gives lots of foreign sites. Florence

Hi All: There were three brothers (Christian, Adam, and John Loeffel) who came to the U.S during the Palatine immigration. I am trying to locate the name of the village or town where they came from. They came at different times during the 1700's. I don't know their mother's name, but their father's name was John. Would appreciate any help. Thanks, Phyllis

On the Google search:: Institut fur Pfalzische Geschichie und Volksbunde Benzinoring 6 D-67657 Kaiserslautern Germany The Institut (formerly known as the Heimatstelle Pfalz) maintains a card index of all known emigrants from the Palatinate, from the 17th century onwards. www.genealogy.net.net/gene/misc/emig/emigrati.html This is in response to posting by MBorger. I can search out things like this...but now can someone tell me ---does one write to this place in English?..Should a donation be enclosed.? I would like to find an e mail address...Does anyone know how to find e add in Germany.? Please post answers to the list. Thanks Florence

I can only give you part of an answer to number 1...The Kraichgau....A book has been compiled by Annette Kunselman Burgert "The Kraichgau" which will give much information on that area. Also someoneposted something about the following books: Macco,Hermann Friedrich " Swiss Emigrants to the Palatinate in Germany and to America 1650 1800 and Huguenots to the Palatinate and Germany - These are in FHL mICROFILM # 0823861 and 0823862. Might give a look see to them. Hope this is of help to you. If youi find out any more about your original query please let me know as I have multiple relatives from the Pfalz in the years 1720 to 1750 and some originiated in Switzerland as my Neff ancestors. Thank you. Joe Woilfe

Hello - I will be in Wiesbaden for one day (next Tuesday). I am on a tour, but that day (after we land in Frankfurt and get to Wiesbaden) is free. I was hoping to be able to get to my ancestral village of Kirberg, which I see from MapQuest is 18.5 miles from Wiesbaden. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get from Wiesbaden to Kirberg...is there some form of mass transit that is reliable, such as a train or bus? Is it possible to rent a car in Wiesbaden for the day? How would the traffic and roads be between the two spots? I would dearly love to be able to get there..and I will be so close, this seems like a great opportunity. Unfortunately I don't know anyone in Germany to help with this, so I am posting this to the list. As I leave from the US on Monday, and if you have a suggestion for me, could you please let me know quickly? Thank you VERY much! Diane

List, Does anyone know if this work has been completed for immigration lists 53, ship Glasgow; 79, ship Robert & Alice; 115, ship Two Brothers; and 119, ship Mary Galley? Is this work still being done? If so, where can it be found? Yesterday I was at the local FHC and found a 1969 paper written by Dr. Fritz Braun, "World Conference on Records and Genealogical Seminar," in which he had plans for locating . . . places of origin of the immigrants. . ." He states, "For the Palatinate area, we have established the 'Heimatstelle Pfalz' in Kaiserslautern, which is under my direction. We have an extensive card file containing date on emigrants. This card file is subdivided according to surnames, places of origin and destination and is constantly being supplemented with new information concerning the country of origin as well as destination. . . ". . .I can show you some examples and for this purpose have selected the passenger lists No. 1, 11, 58 and 189. . . "List 1) The majority of the emigrants of the ship 'William and Sarah' came from Kraischgau and the vicinity of Heidelberg. Among this group many persons are of Swiss origin. This coincides with the fact that many immigrants from Switzerland had settled in Kraischgau. "List 11) The emigrants on the ship 'Thistle of Glasgow' came mainly from the Rhine valley, that is from the 'Vorderpfalz' (fore-Palatinate) with a larger group from the Hassloch-Ludwigshafen area. "List 58) The majority of the passengers of the ship 'Glasgow' originated from the Kusel-Baumholder region, in the so-called 'Westrich,' that is the western part of the North-Palatine hill country. "List 189) The places of origin are known of 22 of the 74 emigrants on the ship 'Snow Ketty.' Seventeen of these came from Edenkoben. The other places which have been found so far are all near Edenkoben. ". . .The sooner we can complete the ships registers in this way here in the country of origin, the sooner we will be able to reconstruct the places of origin for a larger number of emigrants. . ." Anyone knowing of additional information on this project please reply to the entire list since it is surely of interest to many. Thank you sincerely, Margery Borger Sacramento, CA

I have three Dietz family members who married into my Kaemmerer family in St. Louis MO around 1875 to 1895. The father and Mother of the Kaemmerer children who married Dietz Children Were John Anton Kaemmerer and Mary Josephine Bateisher from Kirrweiler, Pfalz Germany. They settled in St. Louis MO. If any of the following information shown in the three family tree's is familiar to your Family Genealogy please contact me. Except for a few notes the info you see is essentially all that I have. I am in contact with some descendents of Anton Kaemmerer and Elizabeth Dietz, as well as Otto Kaemmerer and Mamie Dietz. I do not have any contact with the descendents of Frank Dietz and Annie Kaemmerer. There are lots more people in the family tree about 1000 more so far, but I edited 99% of the living people out. So WYSISWYG, Joe Kaemerer Descendants of Anton (Tony) Kaemmerer 1 Anton (Tony) KAEMMERER. Born: August 25, 1878 in Missouri d: July 20, 1957 . +Elizabeth (Lizzy) Mary DIETZ. Born: December 31, 1878 in St Louis, Mo m: November 12, 1901. d: March 18, 1966 in St Louis, Mo County ..2 Burchard (Bert) KAEMMERER ..2 Harold (Bud) KAEMMERER ....+MARY ..2 Elda Dorothy KAEMMERER Born: in St Louis , Mo Adolph (Otto) George KAEMMERER 1 Adolph (Otto) George KAEMMERER, Born: March 11, 1882 in Missouri d: May 01, 1939 . +Mary Margaret (Mamie) DIETZ, Born: January 09, 1882 in Florissant, Missouri, d: April 04, 1966 in St. Louis, Missouri ..2 Willard (Bill) Matthew KAEMMERER ..2 Anthony Roland Adrian KAEMMERER I, Born: January 01, 1907 d: July 09, 1977 .......+Jane Laura MARSHALL, Born: August 15, 1909 ....3 Anthony Roland Adrian KAEMMERER II, Born: February 19,1934 .......+JANET ............2 Adrian Clarence (Ade/Kam) KAEMMERER, Born: October 11, 1911 in 497-16-1822 Missouri, d: February 21, 1923 ......+Mary Genevieve PRICE, Born: May 17, 1916 .2 Dolores Pauline (Dee) KAEMMERER, Born: November 20, 1912 , d: December 08, 1999 in Kerrville, Texas ...+John Holloway HALLIBURTON, Born: May 21, 1906, d: Abt. January 1988 Descendants of Frank Dietz 1 Frank DIETZ, Born: 1872 d: 1958 . +Anna (Annie) KAEMMERER Father: John Anton KAEMMERER, Sr Mother: Mary Josephine BATEISHER Born: December 10, 1876 in St. Louis Mo d: 1968 ....2 Hazel DIETZ ....2 Eve DIETZ ....2 Anton (Tony) DIETZ ....2 Laurence DIETZ ....2 Adelaide DIETZ ....2 Corinne DIETZ

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Hold ALT and type 130 using the numeric keypad, é or type 144 É hope this helps. Nor El Dallas, TX