Marianne, The LDS Family History Library catalog (http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp) lists both Fraulautern (records starting in 1695) and Nachtsheim (records starting in 1660) as in Germany, Preußen, Rheinland. We must remember that Saarland is a fairly modern creation in Germany (see http://www.saar-genealogie.de/). Prior to that time this region was called Rheinland Prussia. BTW, that book is listed as in the FHL in Salt Lake City, UT, USA. Only microfilms and microfiche may be rented at your local Family History Center in Edmonton. You may order a lookup at the SLC FHL for specific pages (order the index first then followup with specific pages). I might add that that is not one of the Saarland books for sale at the Ludweiler Genealogical Museum in Saarland (http://home.t-online.de/home/bauernfeind.hermann/hkv-buch.htm). >Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 22:20:17 -0800 >From: "Marianne Kessler" <kessler@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> >To: PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PFALZ] Fraulautern > >Where would I find Fraulautern in the parish district of Nachtsheim? > >I found "Fraulautern" in the Saarland and "Nachtsheim" in Rheinland Pfalz >which must mean that these are not the places I am looking for. The year >would be 1794. > >I am at a loss and appreciate any help. I would also like to find an owner >of the book "Die Einwohner von Fraulautern vor 1897" by Hans Peter Klauck >for a possible look-up. > >Thank you very much in advance. >Marianne > -- mailto:fhheld@netzero.net _____NetZero Free Internet Access and Email______ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html

I know many of you would like to visit Germany to see those places your ancestors are from. Here is website that might help. http://home.t-online.de/home/mckenzie/germany.htm Also, anyone wanting to write to Germany who needs German Postage stamps for SASE, here is where you can get info on ordering stamps: http://home.t-online.de/home/mckenzie/stamps.htm

Where would I find Fraulautern in the parish district of Nachtsheim? I found "Fraulautern" in the Saarland and "Nachtsheim" in Rheinland Pfalz which must mean that these are not the places I am looking for. The year would be 1794. I am at a loss and appreciate any help. I would also like to find an owner of the book "Die Einwohner von Fraulautern vor 1897" by Hans Peter Klauck for a possible look-up. Thank you very much in advance. Marianne

I am new to the list and also a relatively new family history researcher. Relatives of my maternal grandfather left the Palatine area of Germany in the middle 1700s ? and went to County Kerry in Ireland. I am looking for any information about the HANS family from the Palatine area, their migration to Ireland and later to Canada in the 1840s/1850s period. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. Norm Ellison Victoria, British Columbia

Not quite. it depends on each church archives. Some don't care. Some do. You have to check the Family History Library Catalog (www.familysearch.org) for any restriction. They are always listed if there's restriction. I know for sure the Catholic parish records held at Trier are under such restriction. If the parish records were filmed at the parish office, they may or may not be restricted. good example are Saarbrucken, Zweibrucken and Homburg. Zweibrucken's Roman Catholic aren't restricted (they're from Bitsumarchiv Speyer) Homburg's Roman Catholic records are mixed. (Homburg is part of Saarland now) Sankt Michael's - from parish Sankt Andreas' - from Bistumarchiv Speyer while Saarbrucken's Sankt Johann: Roman Catholic - RESTRICTED - from Bistumsarchiv Trier Evangelical Kirche - not restricted - from Dusseldorf Archives A check on Kaiserslautern's Catholic -they are not restricted - from different archives. Saarbrucken, Homburg and Zweibrucken are very close to each other among the border with France. Really it depends on which archives the records came from. W. David Samuelsen SaintWare@aol.com wrote: > > Hi Fred and Otto > > You wrote: > >> know there are LDS chapels in Germany where the microfilms may be rented, > because I was a guest at one > last summer in Schwenningen<< > > Unfortunately it is not possible to rent LDS microfilms of German > churchbooks, etc. IN Germany, due to an agreement that is meant to insure > data protection. :-( > > Carol > > ==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html > to unsubscribe

Hello I am searching the area around Niederkirchen and Hefersweiler for my family names of Neubrecht, Geib, Bacher, and Götel. These families were living in this area of the Pfalz from 1636 until the present. Is anyone else searching these names? John Newbright

Hi Fred and Otto You wrote: >> know there are LDS chapels in Germany where the microfilms may be rented, because I was a guest at one last summer in Schwenningen<< Unfortunately it is not possible to rent LDS microfilms of German churchbooks, etc. IN Germany, due to an agreement that is meant to insure data protection. :-( Carol

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp John

Otto, On the same IGI record where you found the marriage was a link to the LDS microfilm number of the microfilms of the church books in Landau where those data were obtained. The marriage record typically gives the father of the bride and groom and the village they were from. According to the Family History Library catalog, the Landau microfilmed church records for that church start in 1564. I'm not sure where you go in Germany to get LDS (Mormon) microfilms, but in the US we go to our local LDS Family History Center (everyone is welcome, whether you believe the LDS faith or not). I know there are LDS chapels in Germany where the microfilms may be rented, because I was a guest at one last summer in Schwenningen (V-S). Otherwise, you may be required to visit the Pfalz church archive in Speyer or even to the church itself. ( According to the German Genealogy webpage http://www.genealogy.net/gene/reg/RHE-PFA/rhein-p.html the archive has a webpage at http://www.evpfalz.de.) >Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:51:55 +0100 >From: o.felschen@t-online.de (o.felschen) >To: PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PFALZ] Velschen in Landau/Pfalz > >Hi all, >I`m new to this list and I´m searching for Elisabetha VELSCHEN who, according to >FamilySearch, in 1642 married Philips Jacob GENSSLINGER in Landau / Pfalz >evangelical. Has anybody come across her or across the name Velschen? >Up to now I thought that about 1720-1730 in Salzbergen (now Niedersachsen) the >name changed from Velt to Veltschen and Velschen (and later Felschen). >Does anybody know how to get more genealogical information on Landau? >Thanks, Otto > -- Please use this address until further notice mailto:fhheld@netzero.net ____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________ Download Now http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html Request a CDROM 1-800-333-3633 ___________________________________________________________

I have one that says "Sirr Kubet". I've assumed it meant "here lies". Diane -----Original Message----- From: David Eyre <DEyre@t-online.de> To: PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com <PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, November 06, 2000 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [PFALZ] translation >Here Lies is not directly so translated into German. The German phrase is: >Hier ruht meaning Here rests >David Eyre >deyre@gmx.de >My genealogy can be found at this link >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=davideyre >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Betty Griffin" <bettyjogr@abts.net> >To: <PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 3:58 AM >Subject: [PFALZ] translation > > >> Please tell me the German language for "Here Lies" and the name "Ruth". >If >> no one can help with the translation, do you know of a site that can help? >> The reason for my request has to do with the an ancestor's tombstone >> inscription. >> Any help is appreciated. >> >> Betty G >> >> ______________________________ > > >==== PFALZ Mailing List ==== >Going on vacation longer than 4 days? Go to >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/PFALZ.html >to unsubscribe >

Ruth, are you trying to find more information on the family in Schifferstadt or after the Lists moved to Detroit? bob gillis Ruth Tomlinson wrote: > > I am new to this list, I am searching for my ggrandmother > Maria Anna Schmidt, b. Sept. 29, 1840 or 41, from > Schifferstadt, Canton Speyer, Rhenish, Baveria. She had a > brother Martin, who changed his name to Smith after coming > to the US. He settled in New York City or Brooklyn and > later sent back for his Sister. I think Maria came to the US > about 1858. In 1862 Maria Anna Schmidt married Philip List > in the Lutheran Reformed Church on Suffolk St., New York > City. Their first child Wilhiem Henirich List, was born > Sept. 19, 1864 and baptized in the same Church. > They moved to Detroit, Michigan about 1866. >

Hi all, I`m new to this list and I´m searching for Elisabetha VELSCHEN who, according to FamilySearch, in 1642 married Philips Jacob GENSSLINGER in Landau / Pfalz evangelical. Has anybody come across her or across the name Velschen? Up to now I thought that about 1720-1730 in Salzbergen (now Niedersachsen) the name changed from Velt to Veltschen and Velschen (and later Felschen). Does anybody know how to get more genealogical information on Landau? Thanks, Otto

I am new to this list, I am searching for my ggrandmother Maria Anna Schmidt, b. Sept. 29, 1840 or 41, from Schifferstadt, Canton Speyer, Rhenish, Baveria. She had a brother Martin, who changed his name to Smith after coming to the US. He settled in New York City or Brooklyn and later sent back for his Sister. I think Maria came to the US about 1858. In 1862 Maria Anna Schmidt married Philip List in the Lutheran Reformed Church on Suffolk St., New York City. Their first child Wilhiem Henirich List, was born Sept. 19, 1864 and baptized in the same Church. They moved to Detroit, Michigan about 1866. If anyone can find anything on this family it would sure help me to fill in more of my Family Tree. Thank you all. Ruth

I am searching for family and relatives of BERNHARDT and Sartoris who lived in Kleinniedesheim, near Worms. Wilhelmine Sartoris (b. 1831, Monsheim) married Herman Bernhardt (b.1826 Harxheim) in 1853. They lived in Kleinniedesheim and had three sons (Herman, 1855), Albert (1857) and Jacob (1859); all born in Kleinniedesheim. Wilhelmine is believed buried at Kleinniedesheim. Albert emigrated to the US in 1881. Any additional information or inquires welcome! David Hill Simsbury, CT 06070

>Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:43:45 -0500 (EST) >From: bowiebw@webtv.net (Robert Walter) >To: PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PFALZ] Need help > >Hello, fellow researchers. I am looking for information on my ggg >grandfather, Nicola Walter who emmigrated to America in 1751 at about >the age of 30. He had a wife and 3 or 4 children at the time and he was >a Roman Catholic. I have three questions: >1. The ship he arrived on in America listed the passengers as >Palatines. Does the area known as the Palatinate in 1751 still closely >resemble what is R-P today? Read the history of this area on the Rheinland-Pfalz webpage. http://www.genealogy.net/gene/reg/RHE-PFA/rhein-p-his.html >2. In my research, I have seen very, very few Nicola recorded. I know >it is a variation of the name Nicolaus, but is it perhaps unique to a >certain area? The LDS FamilySearch site shows two people with the given name similar to Nicola Walters. Both are from the general Pfalz region. 31. Nicola WOLTER - International Genealogical Index/GE Gender: M Christening: 5 May 1689 Roemisch-Katholische, Bodendorf, Rheinland, Preussen 32. Nicola WALTURA - International Genealogical Index/GE Gender: M Christening: 11 Dec 1839 Civil, Homburg, Pfalz, Bayern >3. I had a lead that he may have originated from the town or village of >Hamm. On my Michelin map, there are 4 Hamms listed. According to ShtetlSeeker there are 13 and GeoServ shows 11, with 5 in the province of Rheinland-Pfalz. >The christening record showed Hamm, Saarburg, Rheinland, Prussia. Saarburg is in the Trier region. There is a separate mail list for that region. Perhaps they can better answer you questions. >Can anyone tell me where this Hamm is located and what is the name >of the Catholic church for that area that would date from the late 1690`s? The LDS Family History Center catalog says that the Hamm near Trier has a Catholic church with microfilm records starting in 1681. No name is given. >Any help will be very greatly appreciated. >Robert Walter Hint: many people will skip over messages with nondescriptive titles such as yours. Consider the fact that most everyone on this list "Need help." The preferred format for the subject is SURNAME: place: date. -- Please use this address until further notice mailto:fhheld@netzero.net _____NetZero Free Internet Access and Email______ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html

Hello, fellow researchers. I am looking for information on my ggg grandfather, Nicola Walter who emmigrated to America in 1751 at about the age of 30. He had a wife and 3 or 4 children at the time and he was a Roman Catholic. I have three questions: 1. The ship he arrived on in America listed the passengers as Palatines. Does the area known as the Palatinate in 1751 still closely resemble what is R-P today? 2. In my research, I have seen very, very few Nicola recorded. I know it is a variation of the name Nicolaus, but is it perhaps unique to a certain area? 3. I had a lead that he may have originated from the town or village of Hamm. On my Michelin map, there are 4 Hamms listed. The christening record showed Hamm, Saarburg, Rheinland, Prussia. Can anyone tell me where this Hamm is located and what is the name of the Catholic church for that area that would date from the late 1690`s? Any help will be very greatly appreciated. Robert Walter

>Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 21:40:12 -0400 >From: gerry.wrigley@ns.sympatico.ca (Gerald . Wrigley) >To: PFALZ-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PFALZ] Ancestor Search > >I am new to this site,and,am not sure that i am in the right place.My >grandfather >was Frederick Reineberg and lived near Barnstorf or Diepholz. >Is this the proper site to be looking for information. >Any help would be greatly appreciated > >Gerry Wrigley Gerry, Considering that, according to GeoServ, Barnstorf and Diepholz are both in the German province of Niedersachsen near Hannover, you would be better served to ask your query at the Niedersachsen mail list. Go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/NIEDERSACHSEN.html and subscribe. Hint: many people will skip over messages with nondescriptive titles such as yours. Consider the fact that everyone on this list is doing an "Ancestor Search" and needs "HELP" (another nondescriptive title used often). The preferred format for the subject is SURNAME: place: date. BTW, a quick search on the LDS FamilySearch website indicates the only data thay have on the Reineberg family name are on a family from Oldenburg that settled in Indiana. There are several Oldenburgs in Germany. One Oldenburg is also in the province of Niedersachsen only 40 miles from Diepholz. -- Please use this address until further notice mailto:fhheld@netzero.net _______________________________________________ Why pay for something you could get for free? NetZero provides FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html

Johann Adam Schwaegerle s/o Ignativs and Veronica (?) b. 24 July 1822 Wachenheim Germany PFZ. He died in St. Louis Mo. 8 May 1896. Can anyone help me with Ignativs and Veronica? They we believe never left Germany. Thanks Bette ===== Bette Sears home page http://www.geocities.com/bezzsears For Researching Beck, Bohn, Craven, Cravin, Hall, Hild, Hohl, Layton, Peoples, Presley, Ruth, Schwaegerle, Sears, Simon, Stanford, Vogel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

I am new to this site,and,am not sure that i am in the right place.My grandfather was Frederick Reineberg and lived near Barnstorf or Diepholz. Is this the proper site to be looking for information. Any help would be greatly appreciated Gerry Wrigley -- - --------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/

Researching 1. my great-great grandfather MICHAEL LANSCHE purportedly born in Ellerstadt, 1810, who came to USA before 1844, supposedly about 1840. He married CATHERINE LOEFFLER in Pennsylvania, probably about 1840, on his was to Missouri. Family story is that they knew each other in Germany. 2. my great-great grandparents CONRAD or KONRAD HERBEL and ELISABETH MEINHARDT HERBEL, both living in Ellerstadt where children were christened beginning in 1841. Came to St.Louis, Missouri, before 1870 census, as they are counted with their children BARBARA, LOUISE, ELISABETH, ANNA, and ANDREAS / ANDREW. The eldest son PHILIPP, was listed with his wife and family in rural Missouri.. 3. my great-grandfather PHILIPP HERBEL's eldest sister KATHRINA HERBEL, born in 1841 in Ellerstadt and not listed with the family in the 1870 Missouri census. We have information about the family after they were in St.Louis, MO, and would gladly share with other descendants. Great Grandfather PHILIPP HERBEL served in the Union Army from 1861 - 1864 during the Civil War of USA. Margie in Florida, USA