Careful what you say now, these Harris' are related to mine! :o) Hazel (Harris) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Baker" <baker.karanest@btopenworld.com> To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Catherine - mother of Jemima Harris Petrie > Thanks again Heather > > So Catherine was 17 when she had Jemima! > > She was married to a Mr Shaw by 1881, and had 2 more children by him. > > The question is - was the father the son of the family (James Harris,age > 17 > at the time of Jemima's birth) or the head (George Harris, age 46 at the > time of Jemima's birth)?? > > I don't suppose we shall find out. 17 was a wee bit young for those days - > but you never know!! > > It is also a question of "like mother (Catherine) like daughter (Jemima)"- > as she had David when she was 21. > > I do like the way that then fathers were named by using the surname as a > middle name. Pityb that they didn't admit it by being on the birth > certificate. Of course, this was way before the Child Support Agency! > > Stephen > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heather Johnson" <heatherannej@hotmail.com> > To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 12:44 PM > Subject: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Catherine - mother of Jemima Harris Petrie > > >> Hi there - in particular Karen and Stephen >> >> Remember Catherine? She had daughter Jemima HARRIS Petrie in 1873, who >> in >> turn was mother to David Grant Petrie. >> >> Don't know why I haven't done this before but I wondered where she was in >> 1871 ..... but perhaps you have already thought of it though! >> >> So ..... I found her in the parish of Rattray - being a General Servant >> to >> the Harris family! Surprise, surprise! >> >> The location is 'Glenballoch', up the Bonnington road out of New >> Rattray - >> on the modern map it is called 'Kynballoch'. >> >> The entry is: >> >> George Harris Head Mar 44 Farmer of 200 acres employing 3 men/2 boys/2 >> women >> bn Rattray >> Helen Harris Wife Mar 40 Farmer's wife bn Glenisla, Forfarshire >> James Harris Son Unm 15 Farmers Son bn Perthshire, Rattray >> Isabella H Daug 14 " Daug ditto >> John H Son 12 Scholar ditto >> Jane H Daug 11 " ditto >> Betsy H " 9 " ditto >> Jessie H " 7 " ditto >> Margaret H " 5 " ditto >> William H Son 3 ditto >> Duncan H " 1 ditto >> Margaret McKenzie Servant Unm 21 Dairy Maid bn Forfarshire, Inver? >> CATHERINE PETRIE SERVANT 15 GENERAL SERVANT BN PERTHSHIRE, RATTRAY >> >> C'est la vie!!! >> >> Bye for now Heather >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> The new Windows Live Toolbar helps you guard against viruses >> http://toolbar.live.com/?mkt=en-gb >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.27/517 - Release Date: > 03/11/2006 > >
Hi Hazel, Would never say anything out of turn - you know us :-) No rumours you want to share? ha ha Heather >From: "Hazel" <hhgar@btinternet.com> >Reply-To: petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com >To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Catherine - mother of Jemima Harris Petrie >Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 23:54:39 -0000 > >Careful what you say now, these Harris' are related to mine! :o) >Hazel (Harris) >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Stephen Baker" <baker.karanest@btopenworld.com> >To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 3:37 PM >Subject: Re: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Catherine - mother of Jemima Harris Petrie > > > > Thanks again Heather > > > > So Catherine was 17 when she had Jemima! > > > > She was married to a Mr Shaw by 1881, and had 2 more children by him. > > > > The question is - was the father the son of the family (James Harris,age > > 17 > > at the time of Jemima's birth) or the head (George Harris, age 46 at >the > > time of Jemima's birth)?? > > > > I don't suppose we shall find out. 17 was a wee bit young for those days >- > > but you never know!! > > > > It is also a question of "like mother (Catherine) like daughter >(Jemima)"- > > as she had David when she was 21. > > > > I do like the way that then fathers were named by using the surname as a > > middle name. Pityb that they didn't admit it by being on the birth > > certificate. Of course, this was way before the Child Support Agency! > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Heather Johnson" <heatherannej@hotmail.com> > > To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 12:44 PM > > Subject: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Catherine - mother of Jemima Harris Petrie > > > > > >> Hi there - in particular Karen and Stephen > >> > >> Remember Catherine? She had daughter Jemima HARRIS Petrie in 1873, >who > >> in > >> turn was mother to David Grant Petrie. > >> > >> Don't know why I haven't done this before but I wondered where she was >in > >> 1871 ..... but perhaps you have already thought of it though! > >> > >> So ..... I found her in the parish of Rattray - being a General Servant > >> to > >> the Harris family! Surprise, surprise! > >> > >> The location is 'Glenballoch', up the Bonnington road out of New > >> Rattray - > >> on the modern map it is called 'Kynballoch'. > >> > >> The entry is: > >> > >> George Harris Head Mar 44 Farmer of 200 acres employing 3 men/2 boys/2 > >> women > >> bn Rattray > >> Helen Harris Wife Mar 40 Farmer's wife bn Glenisla, Forfarshire > >> James Harris Son Unm 15 Farmers Son bn Perthshire, Rattray > >> Isabella H Daug 14 " Daug ditto > >> John H Son 12 Scholar ditto > >> Jane H Daug 11 " ditto > >> Betsy H " 9 " ditto > >> Jessie H " 7 " ditto > >> Margaret H " 5 " ditto > >> William H Son 3 ditto > >> Duncan H " 1 ditto > >> Margaret McKenzie Servant Unm 21 Dairy Maid bn Forfarshire, Inver? > >> CATHERINE PETRIE SERVANT 15 GENERAL SERVANT BN PERTHSHIRE, RATTRAY > >> > >> C'est la vie!!! > >> > >> Bye for now Heather > >> > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> The new Windows Live Toolbar helps you guard against viruses > >> http://toolbar.live.com/?mkt=en-gb > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.27/517 - Release Date: > > 03/11/2006 > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows LiveĀ Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb
Hi Heather I don't know much about the Harris' up there apart from the fact that they used to have a New Year party for all the family which lasted about 3 days! That's how I know they're related. My great-granny on my dad's side told my mother they used to go to a party in Blairgowrie, and they walked up along Oakbank Road by the river, so I looked up the census records and there they were (plus a family of Valentines, my other great-granny on my dad's side was a Valentine) Hazel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Johnson" <heatherannej@hotmail.com> To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 4:05 AM Subject: Re: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Catherine - mother of Jemima Harris Petrie > Hi Hazel, > > Would never say anything out of turn - you know us :-) No rumours > you > want to share? ha ha > > Heather > > > > >>From: "Hazel" <hhgar@btinternet.com> >>Reply-To: petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com >>To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> >>Subject: Re: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Catherine - mother of Jemima Harris Petrie >>Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 23:54:39 -0000 >> >>Careful what you say now, these Harris' are related to mine! :o) >>Hazel (Harris) >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Stephen Baker" <baker.karanest@btopenworld.com> >>To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 3:37 PM >>Subject: Re: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Catherine - mother of Jemima Harris Petrie >> >> >> > Thanks again Heather >> > >> > So Catherine was 17 when she had Jemima! >> > >> > She was married to a Mr Shaw by 1881, and had 2 more children by him. >> > >> > The question is - was the father the son of the family (James >> > Harris,age >> > 17 >> > at the time of Jemima's birth) or the head (George Harris, age 46 at >>the >> > time of Jemima's birth)?? >> > >> > I don't suppose we shall find out. 17 was a wee bit young for those >> > days >>- >> > but you never know!! >> > >> > It is also a question of "like mother (Catherine) like daughter >>(Jemima)"- >> > as she had David when she was 21. >> > >> > I do like the way that then fathers were named by using the surname as >> > a >> > middle name. Pityb that they didn't admit it by being on the birth >> > certificate. Of course, this was way before the Child Support Agency! >> > >> > Stephen >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Heather Johnson" <heatherannej@hotmail.com> >> > To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 12:44 PM >> > Subject: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Catherine - mother of Jemima Harris Petrie >> > >> > >> >> Hi there - in particular Karen and Stephen >> >> >> >> Remember Catherine? She had daughter Jemima HARRIS Petrie in 1873, >>who >> >> in >> >> turn was mother to David Grant Petrie. >> >> >> >> Don't know why I haven't done this before but I wondered where she was >>in >> >> 1871 ..... but perhaps you have already thought of it though! >> >> >> >> So ..... I found her in the parish of Rattray - being a General >> >> Servant >> >> to >> >> the Harris family! Surprise, surprise! >> >> >> >> The location is 'Glenballoch', up the Bonnington road out of New >> >> Rattray - >> >> on the modern map it is called 'Kynballoch'. >> >> >> >> The entry is: >> >> >> >> George Harris Head Mar 44 Farmer of 200 acres employing 3 men/2 boys/2 >> >> women >> >> bn Rattray >> >> Helen Harris Wife Mar 40 Farmer's wife bn Glenisla, Forfarshire >> >> James Harris Son Unm 15 Farmers Son bn Perthshire, Rattray >> >> Isabella H Daug 14 " Daug ditto >> >> John H Son 12 Scholar ditto >> >> Jane H Daug 11 " ditto >> >> Betsy H " 9 " ditto >> >> Jessie H " 7 " ditto >> >> Margaret H " 5 " ditto >> >> William H Son 3 ditto >> >> Duncan H " 1 ditto >> >> Margaret McKenzie Servant Unm 21 Dairy Maid bn Forfarshire, Inver? >> >> CATHERINE PETRIE SERVANT 15 GENERAL SERVANT BN PERTHSHIRE, RATTRAY >> >> >> >> C'est la vie!!! >> >> >> >> Bye for now Heather >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> The new Windows Live Toolbar helps you guard against viruses >> >> http://toolbar.live.com/?mkt=en-gb >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without >> >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.27/517 - Release Date: >> > 03/11/2006 >> > >> > >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows LiveT Messenger has arrived. 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