Hello Pam, Many thanks for this additional information, your 1881 census details for the McLAREN family certainly seem to have helped you find new info. With regard to the MARY ANN PETRIE who you found in the 1881 census at Arbroath, through her address and age I believe this may be MARY ANN SMALL widow of WILLIAM PETRIE from Arbroath, they married in 1851...although I need to find further info to prove for sure that this is her. We know from details on your Mary Ann Petrie's marriage certificate to John McLaren in 1864 that her father WILLIAM PETRIE was deceased and her mother MARY ANN FERGUSON was apparently still alive. I checked back my wee note book for my SRO visits and find that I have tried a search for you using the surname cross reference facility for married women for a Petrie/Ferguson death in Scotland through from 1855 till 1930... with no death found. This may indicate that she has died outside Scotland or she has re-married and her Petrie marriage has not been recorded on her death certificate, so does not show up in the index. Since you know the McLaren family returned to America, could her Mother have gone with them ?? Cheerio Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 4:30 PM Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] Some New Wee Bits of Information > Norma, > > For your files, I have located another child to the John McLAREN/Mary Ann > PETRIE marriage and some small tidbits of information: > > Found on the 1881 Census that a kind soul looked up for me via the Angus > GenWeb site: > Dwelling: 14 N Ersking Street, Dundee, Forfar, Scotland > (Name, marital status, age, sex, birthplace) > Mary Ann McLAREN W 38 F Broty Ferry, Forfar, Scotland Head, Occ: Jute > Weaver **I know she was not a widow as other children were born to this > marriage up to 1888 - maybe John was in America at the time of the census. > Thomas McLAREN U 15 M Dundee, Forfar, Scotland Son, Occ: Rivetter > Robert McLAREN 8 America Son, Occ: Scholar > Mary Ann McLAREN 2 F Dundee, Forfar, Scotland Daughter > > New bits of information: > 1) Birthplace for Mary Ann McLAREN ms PETRIE > 2) Found Robert! My Aunt remembers an "Uncle Robert" but I could never find > him. With him listed as 8 his approximate birth year would be 1873 - > interesting that it was in America. That means that they were in America in > 1873 for his birth and back in Dundee in October of 1874 for the birth of > Martha Beattie. > 3) Mary ANN McLAREN, instead of Mary Petrie McLAREN as we knew her. Also, > records of birth, death, etc. in Providence list her as Mary P. McLaren. > Maybe the census person picked up Mary Ann as that was her mothers name.... > Also, we now know she was born in Dundee! > 4) My Aunts' and grandmothers' recollection of the family was two boys, > Mary, and two other boys. Given this 1881 census all the other children born > prior to 1879, besides Thomas and Robert, must have died -- which fits the > recollection. > > ONE OTHER PIECE OF INFORMATION > > Also in the 1881 census, a Mary Ann PETRIE was found - this could be the wife > of William PETRIE, but I don't know how to go about figuring it out. > > The information: > Dwelling: 12 Dishland Street, St Vigeans, Forfar, Scotland > Mary Ann PETRIE W 56 F Arbroath, Forfar, Scotland Head, Occ: Pauper > > > Maybe Mary Ann Petrie McLAREN returned to Scotland because her mother was in > ill health? The next child born to John and Mary Ann Petrie McLAREN was John > in 1883 in Providence. That would give me a narrower window to look for > death records for this Mary Ann PETRIE. Do the death records in this time > period give spouse's name or children's names so that we can tie them back? > > Any suggestions as to where I can look next? > > Pam Greenway > Dallas, Texas, USA > > Searching: > Petrie, McLaren, Ferguson, Peebles: Scotland > Smith and Jane: England > Schupp, Riesterer, Metzner, and Dohrman: Germany > Winters: Ireland > Lambe, Greenway, Metz, Lehardy: ? > > > > Dallas, Texas, USA > > Searching: > Petrie, McLaren, Ferguson, Peebles: Scotland > Smith and Jane: England > Schupp, Riesterer, Metzner, and Dohrman: Germany > Winters: Ireland > Lambe, Greenway, Metz, Lehardy: ? > > > ==== PETRIE-SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== > Need Assistance.... > your Petrie-Scotland List Administrator is Norma Thain...contact her at [email protected] > >