Sorry for the delay David I would be very interested to hear what you have on the Kirkmichael Petries as they are from my line Regards Karen >-- Original Message -- >From: "Genealogy" <genealogy1542@yahoo.co.uk> >To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> >Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:04:40 +0100 >Subject: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Petrie- Kirkmichael, Strathardle, Perthshire >Reply-To: petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com > > >Dear All > >I have noticed a great many postings on the 'Petrie Scotland' website of >late pertaining to Kirkmichael. This particular line is my family, and I >have an enormous amount of records, photographs, and miscellaneous > information of all kinds pertaining to them. I also have extant personal > knowledge, accumulated from having the luxury of knowing so many members >of > my family either in person or indirectly through other family members. > > I am in contact with many members of my family who are still living, and >I > have the largest collection of material pertaining to my family of anyone >I > have ever met, either on the 'Net or in person, so for anyone who would > >like > support with their researches, please don't hesitate to get in touch and >I > shall be happy to help. > > Regards, > > David, Alba > > > >___________________________________________________________ >Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, >easy and free. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >of the message
Hello Gavin & Janice & George Many thanks for sharing your Petrie info, and also for the death registration details for WILLIAM PETRIE and additional info on ROBERT M. PETRIE, it all helps tie them together in the database. I have noted below death certificate details I have for MARGARET PETRIE ms WHITE. and I also discovered I had the birth certificate details for WILLIAM PETRIE child of ROBERT MELDRUM PETRIE & ANNIE PEGGIE and have included this below too. I would be most interested to receive any further BMD details you have on the Petrie's. Please do let me know of any BMD's after 1855 that you may still require for your Petrie's and I shall be pleased check my database to see if I have transcribed them from SRO Death Certificate Ref: 1862 KETTLE Page 15 Entry 43 (source Scottish Records Office) MARGARET PETTRIE wife of WILLIAM PETTRIE - Hand Loom Linen Weaver died 28 November 1862 at 8.00 pm at Bankton Park, Parish of Kettle age 40 years Parents: GEORGE WHITE - Agricultural Labourer ELSPETH WHITE ms HAIG Cause of Death: Phthisis (upwards of a year) Death registered by WILLIAM PETRIE - Husband on 02 December 1862 @ Kettle. ********* Birth Certificate Ref: 1884 KETTLE, Fife Page 12 Entry 34 (source Scottish Records Office) WILLIAM PETRIE born 27 May 1884 at 7.00 am at Kettle Parents: ROBERT MELDRUM PETRIE - Gardener ANNIE PETRIE ms PEGGIE (married 16 June 1882 @ Kettle) Birth registered by ROBERT M. PETRIE - Father on 18 June 1884 @ Kettle ************* bibi norma --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0640-3, 05/10/2006 Tested on: 05/10/2006 22:41:08 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Hi Gavin, I've replied via the website just in case Norma and George are interested in the information. You're correct, Robert Meldrum PETRIE died in 1890. Marriage: He married Ann PEGGIE 16 June 1882 at Kettle, Fife Scotland Children: They had 3 children (as far as I'm aware:) Twin boys born 06 June 1882 at Kettle, Fife - 1 twin who was not named at birth, died on 07 June, 1882 at Kettle. The 2nd twin, named Robert, died 03 July 1882. William (the 3rd son) born 27 May 1884 at Kettle Fife. As per your previous email, William PETRIE married Margaret DUFF and they had a son Robert Meldrum Petire in 1905. I also have details of deaths for Elspeth, John and George PETRIE - the other children of William PETRIE and Margaret WHITE. If anyone wants the images from SP for any of the above BDM or for the death of William PETRIE in 1891, let me know and I'll email them to you. Best wishes Janice
Hi Norma, Gavin and Janet, thanks for showing me where the Petries were in Kettle in the 1881 census, I knew that there was wrong spelling! but I would not have found PEETREE. On the Image that I have from Scotlands People of the Janet Wilkie ms White death certificate, her mothers name is definately STAIG, the registrar, Robert Kay's writing is very clear, incidentaly he appears in my ALLAN / BEVERIDGE side of my family, it is a small world, if anyone wants a copy I can let them have it, this is the one where Robert PETRIE, Nephew is the informant, I also note the other children, they are possibly difficult to find in Familysearch because of the Haig / Staig spelling. My Fathers mother, Janet Allan lived at Kettle prior to coming to Edinburgh about 1890, I believe that Allan family members stiill live in Freuchie. Thanks for all your help Regards George
Hi Jennifer Just had a quick look on the NSW BDM's site and found there were 25 deaths from 1755-1975 with the name William Petrie 18 marriages from 1788-1955 Several mentions of William Petrie who wrote letters to Sir William Banks when I googled William Petrie. From there if you google William Petrie+Australia you will possibly come up withthe same results I got. If you want to access the BDM's site just google NSW BDM's Annette in cowra NSW
Hi Jennifer, It will depend when your Wiliam PETRIE died and what date, as to whether there will be any information on the Australian BDM websites. As far as I'm aware., only NSW and Victoria have online indexes and I have listed the dates. NSW - deaths December 1975 or earlier VICTORIA - deaths December 1985 or earlier. If of any interest, I can send you the links but they're easy to find anyway. Best wishes Janice Watson Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Petrie" <JenniferPetrie@hotmail.com> To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] - how to find shipping records > > Hello everyone, > > I am wondering how we find out if people went abroad? I have a few > "missing " people who just disappear from all the records, census reports, > etc. > The only thing I can think of is that they have moved away to Australia, > America or Canada. I know one of my Petries moved to Australia - William > Petrie - but I am having difficulty finding anything on him. Does anyone > know how to access his records in Australia? > > If anyone has any ideas, I would be very grateful. > > Thanks, > Jennifer Petrie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Norma Thank you for the information. I did not have the marriage details for William and Margaret, or the death details for Margaret, so thanks for that. I would appreciate a transcript of the cert. Regarding Margaret WHITE's mother, my source was the IGI. They also spell the fathers surname as WYHTE. I agree with your details of the children. I have slotted Elspeth in, between Robert and John. Regarding William PETRIE, I have the following from his death registration. Death William PETRIE Retired Farm Servant Widower of Margaret WHITE Died - 9 Dec 1891 11 H 15m A.M. Village of Kettle, Kettle Male - 70 years Father - John PETRIE Hand Loom Linen Weaver (Deceased) Mother - Isabella PETRIE M.S INGLIS (Deceased) Cause of death - Influenza - 8 days; Neuralgia; Chronic Rheumatism - 10 years; As certified by James M BELL. M, D, ?. Informant - George PETRIE, son, New Road, Bannockburn. Registered - December 11th, 1891, at Kettle. Registrar - James CELLARS. (Source - SRO Death Registration - Ref: KETTLE 1891, Page 11, Entry No. 33.) I have a copy of the registration, if you would like it. Regarding Robert Meldrum PETRIE. I have his death date as 29 Jul 1890 in Kettle, Fife, Scotland. I received it in a Descendant Report I received from Joyce HILL via the SCT-FIFE list. So far I have not been able to confirm the information myself. In addition, I have a birth registration, for a Robert Meldrum PETRIE, bn. to William PETRIE and Maggie Easter Stormount ? PETRIE, nee DUFF, on 3 Feb 1905. At this stage I am not able to connect his parents into my tree. I have a suspicion that William PETRIE could be the son of the elder Robert Meldrum PETRIE, above. The above Descendant Report, starts with the marriage of John PETRIE and Isabella INGLIS on 26 Jan 1821, who are the parents of William PETTRIE and Margaret WHITE, below. Cheers for now. Gavin Norma Thain wrote: > Hello George & Gavin & Janice, > > I was most interested to read of your connections, and have some further > information which might be useful to you. > > Marriage > 24 November 1848 > WILLIAM PETTRIE & MARGARET WHITE > at DAIRSIE, Fife (source IGI) > > Their Family is listed in 1861 census at Kettle (Ref: district 4 page 16) > > I have William's occupation listed at various times.... > 1861 Ploughman (at time of census) > 1862 Hand Loom Linen Weaver (at time of his wife's death) > 1890 Ploughman (at time of his son George's marriage) > > His wife MARGARET WHITE died 28 November 1862 aged 40 years > (source SRO Death Cert. Ref : KETTLE 1862 Entry No.43 ) > (I have a full transcription of her death certificate from SRO...please just > let me know if you want a copy of it ) > > Although I have noted her mothers name as Elspeth HAIG which differs from > Gavin's info (perhaps due to curly handwriting) :o) > > I have 5 children listed for this couple with birth, marriage & death > details for some of them....please just let me know if you want further > details for any of them. > > Elspeth Petrie born ....? > Robert Petrie born c 1850 > John Petrie born c1855 > Margaret Petrie born 24 Aug 1857 > George Petrie born 20 March 1860 > > I found the details of Elspeth when she registered her brother John's death > in 1866 ..... this suggests to me that she may have been his older > sister...and highlights the gaps in births in this family between 1850 & > 1855.... I think we may yet find more children for this couple whose births > were not listed in IGI. > > Gavin... I notice you have a death date for William Petrie (1891) and for > Robert Meldrum Petrie (1890) presumably from their death certs.... I would > be most interested to receive the details if you would be willing to pass > them on. > > Hope some of the above is of interest. > > bibi > norma > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George N Henderson" <henderson57@paradise.net.nz> > To: "Petrie-Scotland" <Petrie-Scotland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 3:04 AM > Subject: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Petrie and White > > > >> Hi >> This is my second attempt to send this message, I hope that it goes this >> time using the new address, I was also able the get back into the Petrie >> web page using some lateral thinking! good to see Norma back, and >> the list stirred into action >> >> >> On the Wilkie side of my family I have Thomas WILKIE married to Janet >> WHITE (WHYTE) at Cupar, Fife, 31 Dec 1858, Janet had a sister, >> Margaret WHITE who married William PETRIE, date and place unknown, they >> had a son Robert PETRIE, poss b about 1850, who was the informant at the >> death of his aunt, Janet WILKIE nee WHITE at Kingskettle on the 20 Sept >> 1878. Thomas WILKIE died at Newburgh 1882 >> >> >> Does that help anyone or does it just confuse the issue, all those PETRIES >> in Fife must tie up somehow. >> >> Regards >> George N Henderson >> >> ------------------------------- >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gavin W Petrie" <gavinwp@ihug.co.nz> > To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 4:10 AM > Subject: Re: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Petrie and White > > > >> Hello George >> >> Does any of the information below look familiar? >> >> It is a direct path from my 4 x Grt Grandfather, William PETRIE, to >> Robert Meldrum PETRIE. You will also notice that my 4 x Grt >> Grandfather's 2nd wife was a WILKIE. >> >> Regards >> Gavin Petrie >> >> >> Descendants of: William PETRIE >> >> 1 William PETRIE b. 14 May 1754 Abbotshall, Fife Scotland d. aft 1816 >> m. Janet BUCK m. 2 Apr 1790 Kettle, Fife, Scotland b. 2 Jan 1774 >> Kirknewton, Midlothian, Scotland >> [daughter of George BUCK and Margaret ANDERSON] >> m. Margaret WILKIE m. aft 1804 b. bet 1750 and 1760 d. aft 1816 >> >> 2 John PETRIE b. 2 Sep 1798 Kettle, Fife, Scotland d. 24 Jan 1871 >> Ladybank, Collessie, Fife, Scotland >> m. Isabella INGLIS m. 26 Jan 1821 Kettle, Fife, Scotland d. 26 >> Apr 1850 Collessie, Fife, Scotland >> [daughter of Alexander INGLIS and Janet CAMERON] >> m. Isabella PETERKIN m. 27 Dec 1852 Collessie, Fife, Scotland b. >> 19 Dec 1808 Kettle, Fife, Scotland d. 21 Feb 1900 Hill Street, Ladybank, >> Collessie, Fife, Scotland >> [daughter of James PETERKIN and Elizabeth ADAMESON] >> >> 3 William PETRIE b. 25 May 1821 Kettle, Fife, Scotland d. 9 Dec >> 1891 Kettle, Fife, Scotland >> m. Margaret WHITE b. 29 Nov 1822 d. bef 1871 Not in 1871 Census >> [daughter of George WHITE and Elspeth STAIG] >> >> 4 Robert Meldrum PETRIE b. abt 1851 d. 29 Jul 1890 Kettle, >> Fife, Scotland >> m. Ann PEGGIE >> [daughter of G PEGGIE and _____ _____] >> >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "George N Henderson" <henderson57@paradise.net.nz> >> To: "Petrie-Scotland" <Petrie-Scotland@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 7:21 PM >> Subject: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Re Petrie and White >> >> >> >>> Thanks for that Gavin, >>> >>> there is however another puzzle as neither Robert PETRIE b 1851, or his >>> father William PETRIE b 1821 appear to be on the 1881 census index on CD >>> Rom curious, but i know there are odd spellings etc. >>> >>> Did you see that English National Archives are launching a new web site >>> shortly at www.ancestorsonboard.com this will eventually cover >>> passenger lists 1890 to 1960 outward from England >>> >>> thanks again >>> George N Henderson >>> >>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JANICE WATSON" <janicew@bigpond.net.au> > To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 11:06 AM > Subject: Re: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Re Petrie and White > > > >> Hi George >> >> I'm Gavin's cousin (3rd) , so I can answer this one for him. >> >> The spelling of the surname on the 1881 Census for Rober , his sister >> Elspeth and his father William is "PETTREE".. >> They resided at Puddin Hall, Kettle, Fife at the time. >> >> Best wishes >> Janice Watson >> >> >> > > > > --- > avast! 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Hi Heather and everyone else who has replied, THANK YOU There are some brilliant ideas there - will definitely give them a shot Jennifer ----- Original Message ----- From: Heather Johnson<mailto:heatherannej@hotmail.com> To: petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com<mailto:petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> Sent: 05 October 2006 18:14 Subject: Re: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] - how to find shipping records Hi Jennifer, No doubt there will be better tips than this but here goes:- www.ellisisland.org<http://www.ellisisland.org/> for USA but don't think records start before 1892. I have found all my relatives I, personally, have looked for on there though. www.ancestry.com<http://www.ancestry.com/> I took someone's advice and did the 14 day free trial. I researched intensely and, well before the time was up, I cancelled. I had no problems what so ever and was impressed. www.coraweb.com.au/shipgeneral.htm<http://www.coraweb.com.au/shipgeneral.htm> www.searchforancestors.com/records/passenger_html<http://www.searchforancestors.com/records/passenger_html> A search engine search throws up so many links - it's worth you looking and see what takes your fancy in relation to who/when. My searches re Australia/Canada have been confined to message boards for relatives living today and I was successful! Heather >From: "Jennifer Petrie" <JenniferPetrie@hotmail.com<mailto:JenniferPetrie@hotmail.com>> >Reply-To: petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com<mailto:petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> >To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com<mailto:petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com>> >Subject: Re: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] - how to find shipping records >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 11:17:31 +0100 > > > Hello everyone, > > I am wondering how we find out if people went abroad? I have a few >"missing " people who just disappear from all the records, census reports, >etc. > The only thing I can think of is that they have moved away to Australia, >America or Canada. I know one of my Petries moved to Australia - William >Petrie - but I am having difficulty finding anything on him. Does anyone >know how to access his records in Australia? > > If anyone has any ideas, I would be very grateful. > > Thanks, > Jennifer Petrie > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Jennifer, No doubt there will be better tips than this but here goes:- www.ellisisland.org for USA but don't think records start before 1892. I have found all my relatives I, personally, have looked for on there though. www.ancestry.com I took someone's advice and did the 14 day free trial. I researched intensely and, well before the time was up, I cancelled. I had no problems what so ever and was impressed. www.coraweb.com.au/shipgeneral.htm www.searchforancestors.com/records/passenger_html A search engine search throws up so many links - it's worth you looking and see what takes your fancy in relation to who/when. My searches re Australia/Canada have been confined to message boards for relatives living today and I was successful! Heather >From: "Jennifer Petrie" <JenniferPetrie@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com >To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] - how to find shipping records >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 11:17:31 +0100 > > > Hello everyone, > > I am wondering how we find out if people went abroad? I have a few >"missing " people who just disappear from all the records, census reports, >etc. > The only thing I can think of is that they have moved away to Australia, >America or Canada. I know one of my Petries moved to Australia - William >Petrie - but I am having difficulty finding anything on him. Does anyone >know how to access his records in Australia? > > If anyone has any ideas, I would be very grateful. > > Thanks, > Jennifer Petrie > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi there David (Geneaolgy) I would be so grateful if you could give me some more information on the Strathgarry Petries. I have down the children of Alexander Petrie and Joan Douglas, but there are a lot of gaps. I don't have any info on Alexander Stewart Petrie, Hinton, Charles or Alistair Petrie and the info I have on the rest in sketchy. These were my grandfather's first cousins. I was talking to Elma Cochrane last week ( grandchild of James and Susan Petrie) and she remembers Hinton being called "Hinty" and Margaret Mary who was killed in an accident. She thought it was a horse and cart accident, but I have it down here as a motor accident. If you could help in any way, I would be very grateful. Stephen PS My nephew is also Alexander Stewart Petrie, and my daughter is Georgina Petrie ( same I think as your grandmother) - strange how things turn out!
Hello Kit It's great to be back and in touch with everyone again.... :o) I am delighted to read that you have found your Petrie connection in Bathgate, and I had a look at your family tree in our Petrie website.... did you find the relevant info from your Great Grandfathers Canadian death cert ? The details I have on the database for ALEXANDER PETRIE & JESSIE DUNCAN are mostly from the IGI noting their marriage in 1847 in Bathgate and the births of 6 children... from 1855 - 1866 and although your WILLIAM is not amongst them, the gap in births from 1847 through to 1855 and your findings does suggest that there may have been a number of other children for this couple who are not recorded in the IGI's. If you do not have the above family info please let me know, I'd be pleased to pass it on. It's worth noting that 1855 was the start of Birth, Marriage & Death registration in Scotland and only from then on were they obliged to officially register the birth of a child I do have a little information that you can add to your Petrie of Bathgate info.... one of William's brothers died as a baby...... this information gives you an address in Bathgate & and burial info that might be worth following up..... Death Certificate Transcription 1857 BATHGATE Page 50 Entry 150 (source Scottish Records Office) JAMES PETRIE died 28 November 1857 at 7.15 pm age 4 months Single at Whitburn Road, Bathgate Parents : ALEXANDER PETRIE - Master Plasterer JESSIE PETRIE ms DUNCAN Cause of Death: Not Certified Buried at Old Churchyard, Bathgate Death registered by ALEXANDER PETRIE (Father) ******* Amongst the children recorded for ALEXANDER & JESSIE, I can see they went on to have another son in 1863 who they also called JAMES. Hope some of the above is of interest. bibi norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kit Timmons" <scrap4heritage@msn.com> To: "PETRIE-SCOTLAND-L" <PETRIE-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 4:39 PM Subject: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] "My" Petries > Hello to all - and a very special welcome back to Norma! I think everyone > missed you! > > Norma - I'm not an orphan anymore! I posted my Bathgate Petrie tree at > the MyFamily website... I have found this line only in Bathgate so far > but have used only the most available resources. When time permits, I > will dig deeper to see where they were before then! Almost all of the > family living at the time relocated to Canada around 1871. Does anyone > else have family in/from Bathgate for about a century prior to then? > Greetings to all from Washington State! Kit Petrie Timmons > > ------------------------------- --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0640-2, 04/10/2006 Tested on: 05/10/2006 13:52:27 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Hello everyone, I am wondering how we find out if people went abroad? I have a few "missing " people who just disappear from all the records, census reports, etc. The only thing I can think of is that they have moved away to Australia, America or Canada. I know one of my Petries moved to Australia - William Petrie - but I am having difficulty finding anything on him. Does anyone know how to access his records in Australia? If anyone has any ideas, I would be very grateful. Thanks, Jennifer Petrie
I am looking to get a hold or Norma Thain I am feeling very lost and cant find my way out I was looking on the Petrie family website and cant remember if I have joined or not I am on this email list but not sure if I joined the other I am a cousin of Steven and Jennifers and Hazels and I am a bit lost could you please help steer me in the right direction Regards Karen Petrie La Rocca >-- Original Message -- >From: "Norma Thain" <norma.thain@balgavies.demon.co.uk> >To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> >Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:07:57 +0100 >Subject: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Annette Pringle & Stephen Baker - Petrie Website > File Cabinet >Reply-To: petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com > > >Hi Annette, >I have checked in the Website File Cabinet and have found the same problem > >as you, but only with the Census details that Stephen (Baker) uploaded in > >Feb 04....my 'puter does not recognise these files either, and I expect >others will have the same problem. > >However if you Click on "more>" below these files, it opens up 3 more long > >pages of Petrie info available for download, I have done a random check of > >them and all the rest seem to be fine and download no problem. Many thanks > >for bringing it to our attention. > >Hi Stephen, >I don't know if you can remember the file type you used for these files, >as >it was back in 2004, but can you have a look and see if you can open/fix > >them or upload again, it would be a shame to lose them. Many thanks > >best regards >norma > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Annette Pringle" <iapring@snoopacowra.com> >To: <PETRIE-SCOTLAND-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:10 PM >Subject: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Web site > > >> Thanks Norma, it was good to get into the site again and even better to > >> see the flurry of emails since your return. I think you have fired >> everyone up again! >> >> Yes, I am still an orphan and think that I will have to be satisfied with > >> my William WHYTE and Margaret PETRIE connections and also my grandchildren > >> who are decendents of Andrew PETRIE and of course me. >> >> When I looked at some of the files in the filing cabinet I had trouble > >> with some where they were mostly goobledygook and some with the writing > >> with no breaks between words making them very difficult to read. Am I > >> doing something wrong, is there something I should alter on my comlputer > >> which will fix that? >> >> Annette in Cowra >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 0639-0, 25/09/2006 >> Tested on: 25/09/2006 22:11:49 >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> > > > >--- >avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >Virus Database (VPS): 0639-0, 25/09/2006 >Tested on: 26/09/2006 19:07:58 >avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. >http://www.avast.com > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >of the message
Hello George & Gavin & Janice, I was most interested to read of your connections, and have some further information which might be useful to you. Marriage 24 November 1848 WILLIAM PETTRIE & MARGARET WHITE at DAIRSIE, Fife (source IGI) Their Family is listed in 1861 census at Kettle (Ref: district 4 page 16) I have William's occupation listed at various times.... 1861 Ploughman (at time of census) 1862 Hand Loom Linen Weaver (at time of his wife's death) 1890 Ploughman (at time of his son George's marriage) His wife MARGARET WHITE died 28 November 1862 aged 40 years (source SRO Death Cert. Ref : KETTLE 1862 Entry No.43 ) (I have a full transcription of her death certificate from SRO...please just let me know if you want a copy of it ) Although I have noted her mothers name as Elspeth HAIG which differs from Gavin's info (perhaps due to curly handwriting) :o) I have 5 children listed for this couple with birth, marriage & death details for some of them....please just let me know if you want further details for any of them. Elspeth Petrie born ....? Robert Petrie born c 1850 John Petrie born c1855 Margaret Petrie born 24 Aug 1857 George Petrie born 20 March 1860 I found the details of Elspeth when she registered her brother John's death in 1866 ..... this suggests to me that she may have been his older sister...and highlights the gaps in births in this family between 1850 & 1855.... I think we may yet find more children for this couple whose births were not listed in IGI. Gavin... I notice you have a death date for William Petrie (1891) and for Robert Meldrum Petrie (1890) presumably from their death certs.... I would be most interested to receive the details if you would be willing to pass them on. Hope some of the above is of interest. bibi norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "George N Henderson" <henderson57@paradise.net.nz> To: "Petrie-Scotland" <Petrie-Scotland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 3:04 AM Subject: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Petrie and White > Hi > This is my second attempt to send this message, I hope that it goes this > time using the new address, I was also able the get back into the Petrie > web page using some lateral thinking! good to see Norma back, and > the list stirred into action > > > On the Wilkie side of my family I have Thomas WILKIE married to Janet > WHITE (WHYTE) at Cupar, Fife, 31 Dec 1858, Janet had a sister, > Margaret WHITE who married William PETRIE, date and place unknown, they > had a son Robert PETRIE, poss b about 1850, who was the informant at the > death of his aunt, Janet WILKIE nee WHITE at Kingskettle on the 20 Sept > 1878. Thomas WILKIE died at Newburgh 1882 > > > Does that help anyone or does it just confuse the issue, all those PETRIES > in Fife must tie up somehow. > > Regards > George N Henderson > > ------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin W Petrie" <gavinwp@ihug.co.nz> To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 4:10 AM Subject: Re: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Petrie and White > Hello George > > Does any of the information below look familiar? > > It is a direct path from my 4 x Grt Grandfather, William PETRIE, to > Robert Meldrum PETRIE. You will also notice that my 4 x Grt > Grandfather's 2nd wife was a WILKIE. > > Regards > Gavin Petrie > > > Descendants of: William PETRIE > > 1 William PETRIE b. 14 May 1754 Abbotshall, Fife Scotland d. aft 1816 > m. Janet BUCK m. 2 Apr 1790 Kettle, Fife, Scotland b. 2 Jan 1774 > Kirknewton, Midlothian, Scotland > [daughter of George BUCK and Margaret ANDERSON] > m. Margaret WILKIE m. aft 1804 b. bet 1750 and 1760 d. aft 1816 > > 2 John PETRIE b. 2 Sep 1798 Kettle, Fife, Scotland d. 24 Jan 1871 > Ladybank, Collessie, Fife, Scotland > m. Isabella INGLIS m. 26 Jan 1821 Kettle, Fife, Scotland d. 26 > Apr 1850 Collessie, Fife, Scotland > [daughter of Alexander INGLIS and Janet CAMERON] > m. Isabella PETERKIN m. 27 Dec 1852 Collessie, Fife, Scotland b. > 19 Dec 1808 Kettle, Fife, Scotland d. 21 Feb 1900 Hill Street, Ladybank, > Collessie, Fife, Scotland > [daughter of James PETERKIN and Elizabeth ADAMESON] > > 3 William PETRIE b. 25 May 1821 Kettle, Fife, Scotland d. 9 Dec > 1891 Kettle, Fife, Scotland > m. Margaret WHITE b. 29 Nov 1822 d. bef 1871 Not in 1871 Census > [daughter of George WHITE and Elspeth STAIG] > > 4 Robert Meldrum PETRIE b. abt 1851 d. 29 Jul 1890 Kettle, > Fife, Scotland > m. Ann PEGGIE > [daughter of G PEGGIE and _____ _____] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "George N Henderson" <henderson57@paradise.net.nz> > To: "Petrie-Scotland" <Petrie-Scotland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 7:21 PM > Subject: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Re Petrie and White > > >> Thanks for that Gavin, >> >> there is however another puzzle as neither Robert PETRIE b 1851, or his >> father William PETRIE b 1821 appear to be on the 1881 census index on CD >> Rom curious, but i know there are odd spellings etc. >> >> Did you see that English National Archives are launching a new web site >> shortly at www.ancestorsonboard.com this will eventually cover >> passenger lists 1890 to 1960 outward from England >> >> thanks again >> George N Henderson >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "JANICE WATSON" <janicew@bigpond.net.au> To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Re Petrie and White > Hi George > > I'm Gavin's cousin (3rd) , so I can answer this one for him. > > The spelling of the surname on the 1881 Census for Rober , his sister > Elspeth and his father William is "PETTREE".. > They resided at Puddin Hall, Kettle, Fife at the time. > > Best wishes > Janice Watson > > --- avast! 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Hello Paula Many thanks for sharing your Petrie information with us, I do know of this family and the problem in connecting it back to Scotland...I'm afraid I have not found or heard of any success on that yet. I received the details of this family from Deborah Petrie (mpetrie@telusplanet.net) although I am not sure whether that address is still current for her it goes way back to 2000 since we last corresponded . Her husband was a direct descendant of John Henry Petrie & Ann Neering She was in the same situation as you with her research, and without Isobelle's maiden name or George's place of birth it is very difficult to pin them down. However I had looked at this extensively way back in 1997 and sent the undernoted e.mail message to Deborah at that time... it might give you some leads worth following up.... Meanwhile I will check in my database for any further info that might eliminate some of those listed below. ----- Original Message ----- From: "norma thain" <norma.thain@virgin.net> To: "Deborah & Mark Petrie" <mpetrie@mail.island.net> Sent: Monday, December 15, 1997 7:49 PM Subject: PETRIE > Hi Deborah, > > Sorry I have taken so long to reply...I have been caught up in this > christmas madness...I try to get everything done and organised for a > week before so we can all just RELAX over the christmas week ! But I > have to run myself ragged to get their!!!! > > Anyway I have searched the database for links of a George Petrie with an > Isobel, it has come up with similar info that you later sent since your > search at LDS but we can dismiss a couple of them as you will see.... > > Here is one that you did not have as there is no marriage listed for > them, but I think it;s a bit early for your George/Isobel. > > GEORGE PETRIE/ISABEL ROBERTSON from PANBRIDE, ANGUS. (No Marriage noted) > CHILDREN: Janet b. 24 June 1764 @ Panbride, Angus > Ann b. 22 Feb 1766 @ Panbride, Angus > Susan b. 25 Oct 1767 @ Panbride, Angus > Twin James b. 17 May 1769 @ Panbride, Angus > Twin Janet b. 17 May 1769 @ Panbride, Angus > > > We also have another listing without a Marriage Date > > GEORGE PETRIE/ISOBEL ANDREW @ TURRIFF, ABEREENSHIRE (No Marriage noted) > > CHILDREN: John b. 23 April 1784 @ Turriff, Aberdeenshire > > This couple are a potential lead...no further children are listed ..... > > > > GEORGE PETRIE/ISOBEL HARPER who you have noted on your LDS list > that you sent, had 6 children from 1797 through to 1807 all in Duffus, > Morayshire...so you can exclude them, as your George was at Victoria > Mines by then.... > > > GEORGE PETRIE/ISOBEL PETRIE who you also had listed were married at > Stracathro, Angus went on to have three children listed: > > Mary b. 19 August 1778 @ St. Vigeans, Angus > Isobel b. 14 October 1784 @ St. Vigeans, Angus > Mina b. 18 November 1793 @ Arbroath, Angus > > Now this information will depend on whether your George & Isobel's > children, Edmund, George, James, John Henry and Lilley were born in > Scotland or Cape Breton ?? > I am sure that this Isobel's maiden name was Petrie also...it was not > unusual > at all for Petrie's to marry Petrie's. > > Now here is the one that I think is potentially your best lead.... > if your George is Scottish ...., but please remember neither the IGI or > my database is infallible.....as I have found many Petrie's who although > they should have been......are not listed in the IGI/LDS Indexes at all. > > GEORGE PETRIE/ISOBEL LAWRENCE > Married 10 February 1784 at Cullen, Banff > > There are no children listed for this couple which may point towards > their marriage and then emigration to a new life.... > > As your George & Isobel had their first child Edmund in 1785...it looks > promising.... > > I also looked in my database for links with the names Edmund, John Henry > and Lilley > (which were all a bit unusual) but none could be found around the late > 1700's. > > I also looked in my database & IGI for George Petrie's born in 1750 there > were none and I > could not find a birth link in Cullen, Banff for a George Petrie. > > Hope this info is useful....should you require any further look ups > I'd be delighted to help....would appreciate it if you could tell the > other Petrie researchers you know, about my database I'd be happy to > help them too ..... > > Seasons Greetings and Best wishes > to you and your family for Christmastime !! > > Best Regards > Norma Thain > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Jones" <pjj100@telus.net> To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Petrie Ancestors > Norma, > > I am glad to hear from you. I was able to get the following info fairly > early on in my research but I have definitely hit a road block with George > and Isobelle. Hopefully you'll be able to connect here. This is what I > have > so far: > > George and Isobelle Petrie both (b) abt. 1750, birthplace unknown. They > had > the following children: > John Henry - 1791 > Edmund - Abt. 1785 > George - Oct. 22, 1786 > James - Jan 27, 1789 > Lilley - Feb. 26, 1795 > > All of these children were born in either Low Point or Sydney, N.S. > > John Henry (1791) Married Ann Nearing. They had the following children: > James - Oct 26, 1817 > Margaret > Mary > Ann - 1826 > Isobelle 1833 > Bridget 1837 > George William - 1838 > > All of these children were born in Low Point, C.B. Nova Scotia. > > James (Oct. 26, 1817) married Bridget O'Connor. They had the following > children: > John Micheal - 1844 > Thomas - Sept. 24, 1848 > Joseph > Mary Ann - Dec. 1850 > Catherine - Oct. 1852 > John - June 3, 1856 > James - 1858 > Joseph Patrick - Feb. 11, 1860 > > All of these children were born in Low Point, C.B. Nova Scotia > > Thomas ( Sept. 24, 1848) married Mary Ann Walsh. They had the following > children: > Bridgetta (Gertude) April 5, 1875 > Micheal (Francis) - Jan. 9, 1877 > Mary (Minnie) - Jan. 16, 1879 > Thomas (Walter) - April 27, 1881 > Ignatius (Naish) - May 31, 1885 > Bertha - June 27, 1887 > Patrick - Nov. 17, 1889 > Leonard - March 16, 1892 > Wilfred - April 14, 1900 > > All of these children were born in Low Point, C.B. Nova Scotia > > Wilfred (April 14, 1900) married Elizabeth AuCoin. Thier Children were the > following > Ralph - Oct. 24, 1923 > Harry Joseph - March 13, 1924 > Olive - July 13, 1925 > Theresa Caroline Gertrude - July 29, 1928 > Mary Eileen - July 4, 1930 > William Charles - Feb. 18, 1932 > Jean Carmel - June 12, 1933 > Mary (Viola) Dec. 1, 1934 > Evelyn - 1937 > Robert (Bobby) - April 23, 1940 > > All of these children were born in New Waterford, C.B. Nova Scotia > > > Regards, > Paula Jones > Langley, B.C. > > --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0640-0, 02/10/2006 Tested on: 04/10/2006 22:01:32 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Hi Norma and others No, I have not missed any mail, as I did check the archives. It was the sudden stop of mail that made me wonder. However, all seems to be working OK. I noted that we had 2 mails in August, but 123 in September. Which is the most mails since September 2000. Just shows the increase in activity over the last few weeks. I have lots of information on PETRIE's in Fife, if anybody is interested. Regards Gavin PS. Thanks David for having a look at the Fife Death Index. Norma Thain wrote: > Hi Gavin, > > I wonder if you are missing some mail ?? We had 30 messages through the > list from 1st October till now....perhaps you could check the list archives > just in case.... > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=petrie-scotland > > bibi > norma :o) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gavin W Petrie" <gavinwp@ihug.co.nz> > To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 8:46 PM > Subject: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Why has the list gone quiet? > > > >> Greetings all >> >> Just checking to see if the list is working. Seems to have gone very >> quiet again in the last 48 hours. >> >> Cheers >> >> Gavin - looking for PETRIE's in Fife. >> >> -- >> >> Gavin W Petrie >> 64 Sunnyhills Ave. >> Glenview >> Hamilton 3206 >> New Zealand >> >> - - - - - - - - - >> If you are interested in 'Immigrant Shipping to New Zealand' between >> 1835 and 1910, pay my web site a visit at:- >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shipstonz >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 0640-0, 02/10/2006 > Tested on: 03/10/2006 22:25:22 > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- Gavin W Petrie 64 Sunnyhills Ave. Glenview Hamilton 3206 New Zealand - - - - - - - - - If you are interested in 'Immigrant Shipping to New Zealand' between 1835 and 1910, pay my web site a visit at:- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shipstonz
Greetings all Just checking to see if the list is working. Seems to have gone very quiet again in the last 48 hours. Cheers Gavin - looking for PETRIE's in Fife. -- Gavin W Petrie 64 Sunnyhills Ave. Glenview Hamilton 3206 New Zealand - - - - - - - - - If you are interested in 'Immigrant Shipping to New Zealand' between 1835 and 1910, pay my web site a visit at:- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shipstonz
Hello Bill, I do have a William James Petrie in my Petrie line but don't think he is yours. It is interesting that my William James Petrie (b. 1871 Amherst, Nova Scotia, Canada m. Eliza Graves 1906 d. 1936 Princeton, Maine. Head foreman for the Great Northern Pulp and Paper Company in Maine) was in the Pulp and Paper industry. While he died in Princeton, Maine in 1936, any of his Petrie relatives in the Maine Pulp and Paper industry would have been naturals to move to the Pacific Northwest with good job prospects in the lumber industry there. My William James Petrie was the son of David Petrie, the brother of my great grandfather, and the individual who left Scotland and started the Canadian branch of my Petrie line. David Petrie b. 4 May 1839 St.Cyrus, Kincardineshire, Scotland ch. 19 May 1839 "Dumbarrow Mill", Dunnichen Parish, Angus, Scotland m. Mary Ann Smallwood 1870 Amherst, Nova Scotia, Canada d. 1919. David's birth certificate: father's occupation shown as "Labourer". 1841 census for St. Vigeans: age 2, address Cairnbennet, St. Vigeans, Angus. 1851 Census: "Craig Forfar/Bk?/P50/Ent230/Ferryden Farm - Servant House. David Petrie/son/um/12/Farm Labourer/ [born]Dunnichen". David leaves for military service in the British Army at age 16. Two years later David goes to India where he serves through the Indian Mutiny after which he is sent to Canada. He is given his choice to return to England or to be mustered out in Canada, David chooses to stay in Canada. He marries Mary Ann Smallwood in 1870 at Amherst, Nova Scotia and starts the Canadian branch of Petrie cousins. “David and Mary moved to New Brunswick after having their kids.” [The Rev'd. Stephen Petrie - great grandson of David] ". . . two large groups of Scottish families, from in and around Aberdeen, left there in 1873 and 1874 headed for New Brunswick, Canada. My family migrated, at some point, to Maine. The Scottish settlement in New Brunswick is called the "Scotch" Colony and is composed of Kincardine, Stonehaven, Upper and Lower Kintore, and Bon Accord. Most of the first group in 1873 were from Stonehaven and in 1874 were from Kintore and area. . . There is a book entitled A History of the Scotch Colony, Victoria County, New Brunswick 1873-1998.." [Barbara Petrie Sanborn] From Mary Gunn-Smallwood's work "He was a stone cutter by trade (they must have had child labour in those days). At sixteen years of age he enlisted in the British Army and two years later was sent to India where he served through the Indian Mutiny. From India he was sent with others from his regiment to Saint John, New Brunswick and thence to Fredericton where they were quartered in a church for the winter. In the spring after being sent to Halifax, Nova Scotia he was given a choice of returning to Scotland or receiving his discharge. He took his discharge and went to work on the Intercolonial Railway then being constructed and on which he worked all the way from Halifax, Nova Scotia to Matapedia, New Brunswick near the Quebec border where stone bridges were being built. He helped construct the bridges across the Northwest and Southwest Miramichi Rivers. A few years before he died he was the recipient, at a public meeting in Newcastle, New Brunswick of a memorial trophy made from the copper of Lord Nelson's famous ship. To go back a bit, in the year 1879 a new settlement called "Sugary Settlement" was opened up approximately six miles from Newcastle, New Brunswick. and extending about five miles. The name Sugary came from the number of sugar maples. David and Mary Ann were among the settlers that year. By that time they had four boys, besides Mary Ann's two from her first marriage. [My records say her first husband was Neal Camble and she had two son's by him but the record also say's that the boys went my the name of Petrie. - Joyce Tuckerman] They later had another boy and last of all a daughter - my [Mary Gunn-Smallwood] mother." Hope this helps, Dave Petrie Arden Hills, Minnesota, USA
Hi Gavin, I wonder if you are missing some mail ?? We had 30 messages through the list from 1st October till now....perhaps you could check the list archives just in case.... http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=petrie-scotland bibi norma :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin W Petrie" <gavinwp@ihug.co.nz> To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 8:46 PM Subject: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Why has the list gone quiet? > Greetings all > > Just checking to see if the list is working. Seems to have gone very > quiet again in the last 48 hours. > > Cheers > > Gavin - looking for PETRIE's in Fife. > > -- > > Gavin W Petrie > 64 Sunnyhills Ave. > Glenview > Hamilton 3206 > New Zealand > > - - - - - - - - - > If you are interested in 'Immigrant Shipping to New Zealand' between > 1835 and 1910, pay my web site a visit at:- > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shipstonz > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0640-0, 02/10/2006 Tested on: 03/10/2006 22:25:22 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
I think you've hit the nail on the head Jennifer ..... I've just been digesting the newly discovered stuff and updating my file. We'll all be getting our second wind soon no doubt :-) Heather >From: "Jennifer Petrie" <JenniferPetrie@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com >To: <petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Why has the list gone quiet? >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:16:38 +0100 > >Hi Gavin > >I think everyone is recovering after the recent flurry of activity! > >Jennifer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gavin W Petrie<mailto:gavinwp@ihug.co.nz> > To: petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com<mailto:petrie-scotland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 03 October 2006 20:46 > Subject: [PETRIE-SCOTLAND] Why has the list gone quiet? > > > Greetings all > > Just checking to see if the list is working. Seems to have gone very > quiet again in the last 48 hours. > > Cheers > > Gavin - looking for PETRIE's in Fife. > > -- > > Gavin W Petrie > 64 Sunnyhills Ave. > Glenview > Hamilton 3206 > New Zealand > > - - - - - - - - - > If you are interested in 'Immigrant Shipping to New Zealand' between > 1835 and 1910, pay my web site a visit at:- > > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shipstonz<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shipstonz> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com> >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PETRIE-SCOTLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message