Brian: > David Petrie married Margaret Porteous in Old > Machar on Friday 17,Nov,1815 by Mr Rob Milne, > Elder. could anyone tell me where "Old Machar" is > (was) ??. I found New Machar in the county of > Aberdeen but cant find Old Machar Old Machar is in the old part of Aberdeen, just where the university is. I remember drinking in the Machar Arms a FEW times whilst I was there! There is a cathedral there also. Tony

Hi Brian, I found this : The parish of Old Aberdeen, or Old Machar, is about 8 miles long from east to west, and from 4 to 5 broad; agreeably diversified by rising grounds, interspersed with gentlemen's seats, villas, plantations, and numerous manufactories. Population of the town and parish 13,731. Hope it helps. Bill Taylor

Hello Norma & everyone, In a recent Aust. Family Tree Connections Journal a Mr R. Rix, 51 Sydney St, Redcliffe, Qld. 4020, Aust was searching for PETRIE - 1700+ All Fife, some other names in Mr Rix's research are:- ARMIT - Inverkeith, Fife MELVILLE - " " COOPER - All Fife COUPER " " LAUCHLAN - Pt Glasgow MARSHALL " " PEARMAN Qld Aust POWELL 1820 Brisbane, Qld ROSS Pt Glasgow ROSS All Qld. Aust. SLATER Leith MLN, Sct I hope someone will be helped by the above. ********************************************************** I have a request from JUNE GALE, another Petrie researcher who is without a computer, her ancestors JAMES BIRRELL who married HELEN PETRIE(PEDRIE) born 24/6/1812, Kemback, Fife & who married Wemyss, Ceres, Fife in May 1836. They arrived in Aust. in 1840. According to death certs. this couple had 7 children, June can only find 6, perhaps another child was born early 1837 who died either before they left Scotland or on the way to Oz, can anyone help? ********************************************************* Regards from Colleen in wet & windy Queensland

David Petrie married Margaret Porteous in Old Machar on Friday 17,Nov,1815 by Mr Rob Milne, Elder. could anyone tell me where "Old Machar" is (was) ??. I found New Machar in the county of Aberdeen but cant find Old Machar.. Brian

Hi all, Found this when raking around in the usual old papers and cannot fit him in anywhere that I know of just now. Any claimants?? death 3 December 1855 Dudhope Crescent, Dundee James Petrie 47 years 23 years residing Dundee parents James Petrie deceased Elizabeth Ford married to Betsy Dove children Betsy infant deceased Mary 11 months deceased James 19 Mary 5 Lavinia 16 Alexander 3 months Murray Nicoll

Hi Jim, I have an 1855 death certificate which will interest you... Death Certificate Ref: 1855 MURROES (313) Entry 9 (source Scottish Records Office) JOHN PETRIE Capmaker (sic) - Maker of Wooden Dishes age 78 years born Monifieth (33 years in Murroes) died 15 September 1855 at 9.00 am at Bucklerhead, Murroes Parents: DAVID PETRIE - Blacksmith JANET BATHIE Spouse: 1. MARGARET ROBERT - deceased 2. BARBARA LAIRD - deceased Issue: GEORGE deceased 1844 MARGARET age 46 AGNES deceased in 1850 Cause of Death: Anasarca consequent of Diseased Heart Buried at Churchyard of Murroes Death registered by WILLIAM CROCKET, Son-in-Law on 18 September 1855 @ Murroes ************ My database shows that John Petrie & Margaret Roberts married and had all their children in Guthrie, Angus they also had a son David...but he is not noted amongst the Issue listed above !! I have not yet found records for a couple named David Petrie & Janet Bathie but then with the early records...that's not so unusual...does anyone else know of them ?? I feel sure he must be a some sort of relative to Alexander Petrie & Jean Bathie, however I am also curious that his birthyear and place are the same as that of Alexander & Jean's son John Petrie who was also born 1779 in Monifieth ..... Cheerio the noo Norma

Hi Jim, I have had a good look at the Petrie's from Murroes, Angus with regard to my own Petrie tree, when I was trying to determine if Thomas Petrie who married Elspeth Lowson was perhaps a 1st Marriage of my gggg.grandfather, unfortunately I have found nothing to prove this. And I have not found anything to date yet which would help pinpoint for sure Alexander Petrie's (spouse Jean Bathie) parents. But I too associate the 3 Petrie children born to Alexander Petrie/mother unnamed as likely being that of Alexander Petrie & Jean Bathie. I have found a few "potential" marital links for their children...but they'll need to be researched further to prove them....I'll be pleased to pass them on to you if you like. Looking in the database ; I have records to date of 1 known Petrie connection with Carmyllie & Murroes, where I have Christian Petrie who was born 1776 in Murroes daughter of Henry Petrie & Margaret Elder. Christian married an Andrew Davidson (date & place of marriage unknown) she died in 1856 at The Guynd, Carmyllie, and is buried in Murroes Churchyard. On the birth of Alexander Petrie (b. 1755) at Carmyllie to John Petrie & Jean Duncan.... I am a wee bit sceptical about this IGI info.... as I find there is also a family in Carmyllie of a couple named John Petrie & Helen Duncan (m 1748). Since Alexander (b.1755 Carmyllie) is the only one of John Petrie & Jean Duncan's children to have been born in Carmyllie.... he appears the odd one out .....and it opens a question as to whether Alexander's mothers forename has been correctly recorded or transcribed...as Jean Duncan or should it in fact be Helen Duncan of Carmyllie ?? Unfortunately I do not have any marriage or death details etc yet for the other Alexander Petrie's you have listed born c 1750's. Cheerio Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Petrie <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:40 PM Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] Petries of Carmyllie > There has been some recent mention of Carmyllie Petries and so I thought I might jump in with a query of my own about them. > I am trying to track down the parents of Alexander Petrie who married Jean Bathie on October 19th 1776. The parish register record gives no other information. > >From the IGI and the database, I have identified 4 possible birth records for this Alexander Petrie, one of whom is from Carmyllie, and who I would like to find out more about, if only to eliminate him from my research. > Given that Alexander married in 1776, I am starting with birth dates around 1750/53, on the assumption that he may have married around age 21 ( I have no death information from any source). > There is quite a detailed family tree lodged on the IGI by a Harold Petrie of London. I have tried to contact him at the address given, but with no luck. His tree shows an Alexander christened in Carmyllie on 11th May 1755 (making him 21 on the date of marriage) to John Petrie and Jean Duncan. I am starting with this lead as the names John and Alexander recur in both lines and blacksmiths also seem to be a common trade. > > My Alexander was a blacksmith in Murroes, married Jean Bathie and had confirmed children John, David and George. > > There are other Petrie offspring in Murroes at this time with a father Alexander, but mother unnamed, of Elizabeth, Helen and William. Elizabeth's baptism is a year before the wedding to Jean Bathie, so could be a child of theirs, or to a different mother or to a different family. Has anyone researched Murroes Petries? There is at least one member of the family buried there, but I have not yet had an opportunity to visit and check gravestones. > > Has anyone any information that would confirm or disprove the link to the Carmyllie Petries? > > Just out of interest, the other Alexander's I am looking at are > 1.. Alexander - christened 21/11/1756 in Maryton, by Montrose, to Alex Petrie and Elizabeth Belly > 2.. Alexander - christened 14/10/1753, at Kirkden Angus, to William Petrie > 3.. Alexander - christened 8/7/1753 at Kirriemuir to 'Jo' > Any information on any of these, if only to eliminate them would be much appreciated. > > Jim Petrie, Isle of Wight. > > > ==== PETRIE-SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== > Checkout the Petrie Querie Board & Petrie Resource Page on the WWW > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/pet/Petrie > >

Hi Colleen, Thanks for this, if anyone follows up Mr. Rix's interests, it would be nice to find out his particular Petrie connections.... :o) As far as I am aware we do not have any of the researchers attached to June Gale's....Petrie/Birrell line on the Mailing List at the moment.. Gaye Leech was with us, but as luck would have it she has recently unsubscribed....However from the family tree Gaye had submitted to me she listed 7 children for Helen Petrie & James Birrell, she has detailed.... ELLEN (Helen) Petrie b 24 June 1812 Kumback marr. James BIRRELL Ceres/Wemyss, Fife, Scotland 14 May 1836 (ref.IGI M114157 & M114599) Their children James b. 23 Oct 1838 Scotland Isabella (born at sea 28 Apr 1840) ANNE HEAN b. 3 June 1842 NSW Australia Thomas b. 17 Feb 1844 " " Euphamie b. 30 Jan 1846 " Robert b. 27 Dec 1847 d. 14 Aug 1849 Robert b. 4 Oct 1849 Gaye's e.mail address [email protected] I also know of another researcher who has connections with this line, I found her details on some other website but I have not corresponded with her yet.... Kathy Geyer [email protected] Hope it's useful. Cheerio Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: Colleen Yuke <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 9:32 AM Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] Re: Researchers in Australia > Hello Norma & everyone, > > In a recent Aust. Family Tree Connections Journal a Mr R. Rix, 51 Sydney St, Redcliffe, Qld. 4020, Aust was searching for PETRIE - 1700+ All Fife, some other names in Mr Rix's research are:- > ARMIT - Inverkeith, Fife > MELVILLE - " " > COOPER - All Fife > COUPER " " > LAUCHLAN - Pt Glasgow > MARSHALL " " > PEARMAN Qld Aust > POWELL 1820 Brisbane, Qld > ROSS Pt Glasgow > ROSS All Qld. Aust. > SLATER Leith MLN, Sct > I hope someone will be helped by the above. > ********************************************************** > I have a request from JUNE GALE, another Petrie researcher who is without a computer, her ancestors JAMES BIRRELL who married HELEN PETRIE(PEDRIE) born 24/6/1812, Kemback, Fife & who married Wemyss, Ceres, Fife in May 1836. They arrived in Aust. in 1840. According to death certs. this couple had 7 children, June can only find 6, perhaps another child was born early 1837 who died either before they left Scotland or on the way to Oz, can anyone help? > ********************************************************* > > Regards from Colleen in wet & windy Queensland > > > > >

Hi David, This is a placename problem often encountered by visitors to this area, Lunan and Lunanhead are two different places, Lunan is about 5 miles from Montrose, and is found on the coast in between Montrose & Arbroath, the area is also known as Lunan Bay.... Lunanhead however is a wee village 2 miles North East of Forfar. With a distance of approximately 12 miles between them, as I understand it, the link is that Lunanhead is the area where the Lunan Water is sourced and it flows all the way to the coast to Lunan Bay. Cheerio the noo Norma :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 4:29 AM Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] Lunanhead Hi Norma, Is "Lunanhead" as in, "..... it should have read "Lunanhead" which is just on the outskirts of Forfar," the same place as the "Lunan" I see in some of my family records? Dave Petrie ==== PETRIE-SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== Checkout the Petrie Querie Board & Petrie Resource Page on the WWW http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/pet/Petrie

Hi Jim We got the 1761 birth year for Alexander by reference to the 1841 census. I have no record of a baptism - yet! Please let us knowif you find anything definite. We haven't checked AF yet, but will have a look soon! Hope to see you in August! Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Petrie <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 01 February 2001 19:33 Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] Alexander Petrie/Anne Robertson 1786 > Hi Norma, > > Pleased to hear that the logo is OK, will do a final version and send it out as soon as I can. > > On the genealogy front I have a query about the above couple married 10th June 1786 in Kirkmichael, and listed in the database. An Ancestral File on the IGI identifies this Alexander as the one baptised in Murroes in 1761. Are you, or any of the Kirkmichael investigators, aware of any documented evidence of this? > > Jim, Isle of Wight > > > ==== PETRIE-SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== > To send a message to everyone on this Petrie-Scotland List, our address is > [email protected] > >

Hi Norma, Is "Lunanhead" as in, ".....  it should have read "Lunanhead" which is just on the outskirts of Forfar," the same place as the "Lunan" I see in some of my family records? Dave Petrie

Hi Norma, Pleased to hear that the logo is OK, will do a final version and send it out as soon as I can. On the genealogy front I have a query about the above couple married 10th June 1786 in Kirkmichael, and listed in the database. An Ancestral File on the IGI identifies this Alexander as the one baptised in Murroes in 1761. Are you, or any of the Kirkmichael investigators, aware of any documented evidence of this? Jim, Isle of Wight

Hi Colleen Thanks for your message. Janice is a first cousin of mine - her father and my mum were siblings. We've lost track of each other over the past 10 years but I'm recently retired, back in Melbourne and starting to get back into my family history albeit slowly. Janice and I are both descended from Keith Imray Petrie and there are two other branches of his family in Australia. Descendants of Keith's younger brother David are centred in Victoria and I've only fairly recently made contact with Bruce Taylor of Brisbane who is descended from Keith's niece, Helen, daughter of his other brother, Robert Porteous Petrie. Is Janice on the Web ? In any event I'll track her down and update her with our research to date. Thanks again Allan Jones, Melbourne (PO Box 358, Glen Waverley. Vic. 3150) Janice and I shared ----- Original Message ----- From: Colleen Yuke <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 8:06 PM Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] Re: Petrie Information > Hi to all, > > Mrs J.E. Grayshon, 1 Carolyn Ave, Carlingford, NSW, 2118 Aust, is looking for the death details of KEITH IMRAY PETRIE born 1818 Montrose, Sct, son of David & Margaret nee Porteous, I am sure someone in the group is researching this family, I wonder if they would be prepared to share the above details with Mrs Grayson? Other names mentioned in Mrs Grayshon's request are CAMERON & BENNETT. > > >From Fife Family History Journal Oct 2000 - Collessie - JOHN PETRIE, weaver at Monkstown, was charged at CSC 18 Sept. 1844 with striking an ass belonging to Michael Muckarsie, weaver in Monkstown, with a spade or shovel, and endangering its life. No details of any sentence imposed. Hope this makes someones day! > > Best wishes & kindest regards, > > Colleen from sunny & hot Qld. > > > ==== PETRIE-SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== > To send a message to everyone on this Petrie-Scotland List, our address is > [email protected] >

[email protected] wrote: > > [Petrie-Scotland] Garry Petrie - David Petrie in the news - AP > From: > > "Norma Thain" <[email protected]> > > Many thanks for passing this on to us, it was a fascinating story !! > Since you are also in Oregon is this David Petrie a relation to you ?? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Garry Petrie <[email protected]> > http://www.kgw.com/kgwnews/oregonwash_story.html?StoryID=13203 >> >> Follow the link, as stories drop off of local news station's web page after a couple of days. That's why I noticed the story, since we both live in Oregon. However, to the best of my knowledge, we are not related. The story is still active on the KGW www site for those who missed it. Garry Petrie

Hi to all, Mrs J.E. Grayshon, 1 Carolyn Ave, Carlingford, NSW, 2118 Aust, is looking for the death details of KEITH IMRAY PETRIE born 1818 Montrose, Sct, son of David & Margaret nee Porteous, I am sure someone in the group is researching this family, I wonder if they would be prepared to share the above details with Mrs Grayson? Other names mentioned in Mrs Grayshon's request are CAMERON & BENNETT. >From Fife Family History Journal Oct 2000 - Collessie - JOHN PETRIE, weaver at Monkstown, was charged at CSC 18 Sept. 1844 with striking an ass belonging to Michael Muckarsie, weaver in Monkstown, with a spade or shovel, and endangering its life. No details of any sentence imposed. Hope this makes someones day! Best wishes & kindest regards, Colleen from sunny & hot Qld.

Hi Garry, Many thanks for passing this on to us, it was a fascinating story !! Since you are also in Oregon is this David Petrie a relation to you ?? Cheerio Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: Garry Petrie <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]b.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 6:47 AM Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] David Petrie in the news - AP > http://www.kgw.com/kgwnews/oregonwash_story.html?StoryID=13203 > > Follow the link, as stories drop off of local news station's web page after a couple of days. > > Garry Petrie > >

Hi Karen, Many thanks for sharing this 1891 census info with us, I can place all the families except one, on which I wonder if you have further info.... Elizabeth Petrie age 54 of Victoria Works Cottage & 1 daughter I suspect this might be Elisabeth Cooper Boath wife of your Charles Young Petrie who died in 1879... can you confirm through her daughters name, age & birthplace details ?? Also on the Village of Limanhead..... it should have read "Lunanhead" which is just on the outskirts of Forfar, I find this is the family of David Petrie & Mary Scott. Cheerio the noo Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: Karen Hutten <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 6:40 PM Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] 1891 census - Forfar > I was recently at our LDS and found some Petries on film 0208721, 1891 census for Forfar, ED 21-25. While I was searching for other names, I copied down information for the families below. I'm sure this is not a complete list of all Petries on this film. Contact me for more information. > > Annie Petrie - age 46 - 19 John St. > > Helen Petrie - age 35 - 5 John St. > Annie Petrie - age 32 > > George Petrie - age 58 - 9 John St. > Isabella Petrie - age 58 > 4 children > > Thomas Petrie - age 58 - 19 John St. > Mary Petrie - age 57 > 1 son > > Elizabeth Petrie - age 54 - Victoria Works cottage > 1 daughter > > David Petrie - age 36 - village of Limanhead [?] > Mary Petrie - age 34 > 6 children > > Karen Hutten > [email protected] > > > ==== PETRIE-SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== > Need Assistance.... > your Petrie-Scotland List Administrator is Norma Thain... > contact her at [email protected] > >

The full entry for Elizabeth Petrie is: ED 23, p. 27 - Prison Road, Victoria Works Cottage Elizabeth Petrie H W 54 Factory worker Forfarshire, Forfar Jane Petrie D U 23 Dressmaker Forfarshire, Forfar I think you're right about her being Elisabeth Cooper Boath, wife of Charles Young Petrie. Her age and her daughter's age match up with their birth dates. I forgot to include the following in my original message: William Petrie - age 30 - patient at Forfar Infirmary Let me know if you would like the full entries for the other families. Karen

I was recently at our LDS and found some Petries on film 0208721, 1891 census for Forfar, ED 21-25. While I was searching for other names, I copied down information for the families below. I'm sure this is not a complete list of all Petries on this film. Contact me for more information. Annie Petrie - age 46 - 19 John St. Helen Petrie - age 35 - 5 John St. Annie Petrie - age 32 George Petrie - age 58 - 9 John St. Isabella Petrie - age 58 4 children Thomas Petrie - age 58 - 19 John St. Mary Petrie - age 57 1 son Elizabeth Petrie - age 54 - Victoria Works cottage 1 daughter David Petrie - age 36 - village of Limanhead [?] Mary Petrie - age 34 6 children Karen Hutten [email protected]

http://www.kgw.com/kgwnews/oregonwash_story.html?StoryID=13203 Follow the link, as stories drop off of local news station's web page after a couple of days. Garry Petrie