Hi Jim, I did not see a reply come through to your enquiry... although I suspect you may have had some off- list... With regard to access to the Kirk Session records at Dundee City Archives, the chief archivist is Ian Flett, and they do ask you to telephone for an appointment, this way they can ensure that they have the records and equipment you need ready and available for you, and wherever possible let them know what you are looking for. Their Department is in Shore Terrace, just behind the Marryat Hall, and you would probably be best to park in the New Overgate Shopping Centre car park, and have a wee walk along to Shore Terrace...it will be cheaper and you will not be on a time limit as with the on-street parking in the city. The Dundee City Archive Department have their own website where you will find further information about the records they have available.... http://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/archives/ The Tay Valley Family History Centre should have all the 1891 census information you need, and their on-line Library Catalogue lists all the items available in their library for you when you visit the centre.... http://www.tayvalleyfhs.org.uk/index.html so you can organise yourself with that beforehand too. The TVFHS webpage also has a number of useful links of other research facilities within the Angus area, which might interest you. I am not sure about the land ownership records, perhaps someone else can advise on this ?? But I know that the LDS (Mormon) Family History Centre in Bingham Terrace, Dundee have Sasine Index's and Records on Microfilm, and wonder if these might be useful. You can arrange a two hourly appointment with the LDS in Dundee by telephoning 01382 451247, but would suggest you do that now, as they are often booked up a couple of weeks in advance.... LDS, Dundee also have the SRO birth, marriage & death Indexes for Scotland from 1855 to c1950, and SRO birth, marriage and death Certificates on microfilm for Angus, Perth & Fife from 1855 through to 1875... and for the individual years of 1881 and 1891, (they also have bmd's for other area's too but the years available may vary...) so you may find more than you bargained for !!! :o) Hope you have a very successful day in Dundee.... Cheerio Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Petrie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 2:20 PM Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] ANGUS MEMBERS > Dear Angus Residents, > > I have an all too short few hours in Dundee in the middle of May and would like to use the time as effectively as possible. As I haven't used any facilities there for family research, I wondered if any of you who know the area could give me some advice. The sorts of things I would like to research are as follows: > a.. Old Kirk Session records for some Angus churches, which I know are held in the City Archivist's Department. I know exactly which ones I would like to see. Would I have to make arrangements in advance, or book? Are the staff quite helpful, possibly even looking material out in advance for me, given warning? Would I need to book a microfilm reader or anything? Where about is the Archive? What's car parking like in the city? > b.. 1891 Census for Dundee, probably St Andrews Parish - where's the best place to go, the City Archives, or the Tay Valley Family History Society? Again, do I need to organise anything in advance? > c.. Land Ownership records for part of Angus - Any view on the best place to go or methods to make best use of time? > I doubt if I will get half of what I would like to do done, but thought I could make best use of very short and hard to get, few hours in the city with the help of you experienced researchers out there, who I know are always happy to help. I'm aware the Forfar library also has a family history section but don't think I will have time to get there. > > Jim Petrie, Isle of Wight > > > ==== PETRIE-SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== > Checkout the Petrie Querie Board & Petrie Resource Page on the WWW > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/pet/Petrie > >

Hi Pam, Was so sorry to hear that you had spent so much time on the website uploading your Petrie tree only to discover you had a problem. I can also see it in the list, but without any entries...did you upload a Gedcom file or create it within the website ?? I suspect the latter, and am afraid I am not sure at this point why it did not work, however you should have been able to edit it, and you certainly do not have to share your tree with Ancestry.com unless you wish to. I'm afraid it looks like you may have to try again, it might be easier for you to create your Petrie tree in your own Family Tree software package, save it as a Gedcom file, then upload it to the website.... rather than actually create it in the website...as there is always the chance that your ISP connection might go down and you lose your work....any chance this might have happened ?? The website is not updated as such, it simply changes and grows as items are added by our members. I'll try to find time to test out the Family Tree section myself this weekend.... Cheerio Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 8:29 PM Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] Stupid Question > Hopefully someone can help me! I just spent what seemed like hours putting > my Petrie part of my family tree on the Petrie-Scotland web site. But, now I > can't get back into it to make any changes - or even see it. Plus, it does > not show that the web site has been updated since April 17th and today is May > 1st. I can see it on the family tree list, but when I click on it the page > comes up blank. Do you have to submit the tree to Ancestry.com before folks > on the Petrie-Scotland site can see it? I really wasn't prepared to publish > it to the world, but wanted to put it out there for the Petrie's. Any help > greatly appreciated! > > Pam Greenway > Dallas, Texas, USA > > Searching: > Petrie, McLaren, Ferguson, Peebles: Scotland > Smith and Jane: England > Schupp, Riesterer, Metzner, and Dohrman: Germany > Winters: Ireland > Lambe, Greenway, Metz, Lehardy: ? > > > ==== PETRIE-SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== > To send a message to everyone on this Petrie-Scotland List, our address is > [email protected] > >

got this today and thought someone on the list might have this canadian relative. This is from the Hamilton, Ontario newspaper \ Janine McGOWAN, Margaret (nee Petrie) - Peacefully at her home at Bethany Lodge on April 30, 2001, in her 88th year. Predeceased by her beloved husband Sam and her son Hugh McGowan and two grandsons, Bradley McGowan and Kenneth Weagant. She will be dearly missed by her son Robert McGowan of London, Ontario, and her daughter Agnes and her husband Bob Weagant of Virginia. Dear sister of Jean Paton of Hamilton, grandchildren Robert Weagant and Julia Pearce and family, all of California, Lisa and her husband William Hayes of Barrie, Ontario, and Catherine McGowan of Vancouver, B.C., great-grandchildren Emma Pearce, Mitchell, Amelia and Tristan Hayes. Margaret is survived by many relatives and friends in Canada, United States, Scotland and Northern Ireland. Resting at the M.A. CLARK & SONS FUNERAL HOME, 567 Upper Wellington Street, Mount Hamilton on Wednesday from 7-9 p.m. Funeral Service Thursday, May 3, 2001, at 11 a.m. in the Funeral Home Chapel. Interment Woodland Cemetery. Donations may be made to Bethany Lodge or the Heart and Stroke Foundation. Free at last ----------------------------

So did we! (We are NOT Jedi Knights!!) Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: Heather Johnson <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 30 April 2001 15:36 Subject: Re: [Petrie-Scotland] Census 2001 > Did just that Derek!!! > > Heather > > > >From: "Derek Heath" <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: "Derek Heath" <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] Census 2001 > >Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 08:44:42 +0100 > > > >Today is Census day ! > > > >Remember, before you send that dreadful form back, take a photocopy and > >place it in your Family Tree records. It will be your last chance. > > > >Before the year is out it will probably have been copied to disc and the > >original shredded. > > > >Derek > > > > > >==== PETRIE-SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== > >Need Assistance.... > >your Petrie-Scotland List Administrator is Norma Thain... > >contact her at [email protected] > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > ==== PETRIE-SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== > Need Assistance.... > your Petrie-Scotland List Administrator is Norma Thain...contact her at [email protected] > >

Hopefully someone can help me! I just spent what seemed like hours putting my Petrie part of my family tree on the Petrie-Scotland web site. But, now I can't get back into it to make any changes - or even see it. Plus, it does not show that the web site has been updated since April 17th and today is May 1st. I can see it on the family tree list, but when I click on it the page comes up blank. Do you have to submit the tree to Ancestry.com before folks on the Petrie-Scotland site can see it? I really wasn't prepared to publish it to the world, but wanted to put it out there for the Petrie's. Any help greatly appreciated! Pam Greenway Dallas, Texas, USA Searching: Petrie, McLaren, Ferguson, Peebles: Scotland Smith and Jane: England Schupp, Riesterer, Metzner, and Dohrman: Germany Winters: Ireland Lambe, Greenway, Metz, Lehardy: ?

Patricia Burgesses were trades representatives. They were elected by the members of the trade to act on their behalf for the good of the trade. They formed the council of the trade. They had the power to make regulations, fine wrongdoers, expel them from the trade and various other punishments. They regulated the selling price for articles made, and made agreements for the purchase of the raw material in bulk which would then be sold on to the members of the trade. When an apprentice finished his time and wanted to become a journeyman, he had to make a test piece to be inspected by the burgesses, and if of good enough quality, the apprentice was admitted to the trade. Quality control was by inspection of the goods manufactured by the trade journeymen. The burgesses handled the cash flow of the trade council as well as poor relief for distressed members and their widows. Trades had "lofts" or balconies in churches where burgesses, members and families only were allowed to sit on Sundays. This is an compacted explanation Murray Nicoll

Did just that Derek!!! Heather >From: "Derek Heath" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: "Derek Heath" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] Census 2001 >Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 08:44:42 +0100 > >Today is Census day ! > >Remember, before you send that dreadful form back, take a photocopy and >place it in your Family Tree records. It will be your last chance. > >Before the year is out it will probably have been copied to disc and the >original shredded. > >Derek > > >==== PETRIE-SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== >Need Assistance.... >your Petrie-Scotland List Administrator is Norma Thain... >contact her at [email protected] > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

There is one Petrie on this list, hope it helps. Katherine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Druid Princess" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, 28 April 2001 15:24 Subject: [LKS] 1881 CENSUS LKS STRAYS IN ELGIN > The following were born in Lanarkshire and enumerated in Elgin during > the 1881 Census. Please request extracts OFF-LIST {[email protected]} > and PLEASE include the enumeration district as listed below, thank you. > > 1881 CENSUS - BORN IN LKS ENUMERATED IN ELGIN > > :AITKEN Andrew P. 1870 Bellie Elgn LKS > AITKEN Jean C. 1871 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > ALLAN Alexr. 1858 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > ALLAN Margaret Lindsay 1849 New Spynie Elgn LKS Coatbridge > ALVES Catherine 1862 New Spynie Elgn LKS Coatbridge > ANDERSON Agnes 1812 Bellie Elgn LKS Glasgow > ANDERSON Catherine 1865 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > ANDERSON David 1875 Drainie Elgn LKS Glasgow > ANDERSON Elspet 1877 Urquhart Elgn LKS Partick > ANDERSON John 1879 Elgin Elgn Scot Hamilton > ANDERSON William 1873 Urquhart Elgn LKS Partick > ANDREWS Catherine 1873 Duffus Elgn LKS Glasgow > ARCHIBALD James 1876 Elgin Elgn LKS Govan > ASHER Margaret 1859 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > ASHER William 1862 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > AUCKLAND Janet B. 1831 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > BLAKE Margaret 1872 Elgin Elgn LKS Cowlairs > BOGLE Thomas 1823 Elgin Elgn LKS Hamilton > BRUCE Annie 1862 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > BUCHANNAN Jessie 1853 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > CALDWELL John A. 1847 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > CAMERON John 1873 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > CAMERON Margaret 1852 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > CAMPBELL Angus 1821 St Andrews Lhanbryd Elgn LKS Glasgow > CAMPBELL Elizabeth 1878 Elgin Elgn LKS Coatbridge > CAMPBELL Mary Ann 1845 Edinkillie Elgn LKS Glasgow > CANT Mary 1833 Forres Elgn LKS Polockshaw > CHALMERS Martha 1821 Bellie Elgn LKS Glasgow > COLLINS Jane 1851 New Spynie Elgn LKS Walston > COLQUHOUN Alexander 1842 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > CROMBIE Mary 1854 Duffus Elgn LKS Barhead > CROSS Agnes 1877 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > CROSS Jane 1857 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > CROSS John 1855 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > CROSS Sarah 1879 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > CROWE Eliza 1857 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > CURRIE James 1877 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > CURRIE Margaret 1878 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > DALRYMPLE Jessie 1825 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > DARNLEY Andrew 1832 Forres Elgn LKS New Monkland > DARNLEY Elizabeth 1830 Forres Elgn LKS New Monkland > DARNLEY John 1837 Drainie Elgn LKS Newton > DEAN Adam 1869 Rothes Elgn LKS Govan > DEAN Archibald 1875 Rothes Elgn LKS Govan > DOWNIE Malcolm J. 1860 Bellie Elgn LKS Greenock > DUFFUS Margaret 1827 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > DUNCAN Margaret 1868 Drainie Elgn LKS Glasgow > DUNLOP Agnes 1867 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > EDWARDS Eric 1878 Drainie Elgn LKS Glasgow > EDWARDS Isabella 1880 Drainie Elgn LKS Glasgow > ELLIS John 1875 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > EMMERSON Stephen 1876 Forres Elgn LKS Springburn > EMMERSON Thomas 1873 Forres Elgn LKS Springburn > EVANS Ameryl R. 1877 Elgin Elgn LKS Govan > EVANS Jane Lucy 1879 Elgin Elgn LKS Govan > EVANS Winifred R. 1880 Elgin Elgn LKS Govan > FARQUHAR Alexander M. 1875 Rothes Elgn LKS Barony (Glasgow) > FARQUHAR Donald 1872 Knockando Elgn LKS Glasgow > FARQUHAR Jessie 1877 Rothes Elgn LKS Barony (Glasgow) > FARQUHARSON Mary 1875 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > FLEMING Maggie J. 1870 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > FORSYTH David 1872 St Andrews Lhanbryd Elgn LKS Govan > FORSYTH Elsie 1867 St Andrews Lhanbryd Elgn LKS Govan > FORSYTH George 1875 St Andrews Lhanbryd Elgn LKS Govan > FORSYTH Jessie Mayfield Chalmers 1873 Urquhart Elgn LKS Glasgow > FOTHERINGHAM Alexr. 1817 Rafford Elgn LKS Glasgow > FOWLER Alfred G. 1877 Bellie Elgn LKS Glasgow > FRASER Elizabeth 1878 New Spynie Elgn LKS Partick > FRENCH Agnes Melvin 1873 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > FRENCH Jane 1853 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > FRENCH John 1875 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > GAMBLE (INNES) Alexander 1868 Urquhart Elgn LKS Glasgow > GAMBLE (INNES) Alexander 1868 Urquhart Elgn LKS Glasgow > GAMBLE (INNES) Helen 1869 Urquhart Elgn LKS Glasgow > GAMBLE (INNES) Helen 1869 Urquhart Elgn LKS Glasgow > GAMBLE (INNES) Isabella 1874 Urquhart Elgn LKS Glasgow > GAMBLE (INNES) Isabella 1874 Urquhart Elgn LKS Glasgow > GARDEN James 1870 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > GARDEN Jane 1874 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > GARDEN William Nicol 1872 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > GEORGE Mary Kerr 1874 New Spynie Elgn LKS Partick > GILL David M. 1864 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > GILL Esther Phillipson 1862 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > GILL Mary 1837 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > GORDON Alexander Innes 1866 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > GORDON Jane Ferguson 1869 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > GORDON Margaret A. 1837 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > GORDON Robert John 1872 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > GOW Robert S. 1875 Kinloss Elgn LKS Glasgow > GRANT Alexr. 1877 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > GRANT Charles 1873 Bellie Elgn LKS Govan > GRANT John 1857 Alves Elgn LKS Lesmahagow > GRANT John 1870 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > GRANT Margaret 1877 Elgin Elgn LKS Carluck > GRANT Marion 1834 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > GRAY James 1875 Drainie Elgn LKS Glasgow > GUNN Hugh 1835 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > HADDO P.M. 1858 Rothes Elgn LKS Drumock > HAMILTON Margaret Y. 1853 Kinloss Elgn LKS Glasgow > HARBITTLE Lizie 1874 Urquhart Elgn LKS Govan > HARBITTLE Ralph 1879 Urquhart Elgn LKS Govan > HARPER Margaret M. 1868 Dyke Elgn LKS Glasgow > HAY Annie 1861 Knockando Elgn LKS Glasgow > HAY Elizabeth 1875 Rafford Elgn LKS Glasgow > HAY Elspet 1876 Rafford Elgn LKS Glasgow > HAY Jeanie 1852 Rafford Elgn LKS Glasgow > HAY Jeanie 1880 Rafford Elgn LKS Glasgow > HAY Robert 1833 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > HAY William 1858 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > HEARD Francis 1879 Drainie Elgn LKS Hamilton > HEARD Mary Hellen 1878 Drainie Elgn LKS Hamilton > HENDERSON Alexander 1870 Edinkillie Elgn LKS Barony > HENDERSON Hugh 1854 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > HENDERSON Janet 1839 Edinkillie Elgn LKS Bothwell > HENDERSON Jessie 1868 Edinkillie Elgn LKS Govan > HENDERSON Margaret 1866 Edinkillie Elgn LKS Govan > HENDERSON Mary 1874 Edinkillie Elgn LKS Hucheston > HEPBURN Catherine 1847 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > HESLOP Margaret 1847 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > HESLOP Thomas 1851 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > HISLOP Christina 1847 Knockando Elgn LKS Shotts > HISLOP David 1868 Knockando Elgn LKS Govan > HISLOP Thomas 1849 Knockando Elgn LKS Shotts > HORN Alexander R. G. 1877 Kinloss Elgn LKS Govan > HORN Jane 1876 Kinloss Elgn LKS Govan > HUNTER Andrew Douglas 1870 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > HUNTER Ann 1846 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > HUNTER David 1874 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > HUNTER Margaret Caswell 1867 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > INGRAM Charles 1876 New Spynie Elgn LKS Glasgow > INGRAM Charles W. 1853 New Spynie Elgn LKS Glasgow > INGRAM Edith Rose 1880 New Spynie Elgn LKS Glasgow > INGRAM John C. 1878 New Spynie Elgn LKS Glasgow > INNES Annie 1879 Urquhart Elgn LKS Glasgow > JAMES Janet 1879 Duffus Elgn LKS Glasgow > JENKINS David 1876 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > JOHNSTON Gordon 1830 Elgin Elgn LKS Cambuslang > JOHNSTON Gordon 1866 Elgin Elgn LKS Rutherglen > JOHNSTON Jean 1865 Birnie Elgn LKS Glasgow > KING James 1857 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > KING John 1827 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > KNOX Elizabeth 1847 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > KYNOCH Mary 1830 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > LEASK Christina 1871 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > LEASK James 1869 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > LEASK John 1862 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > MACKAY Peter 1868 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > MACKENZIE Andrew 1869 St Andrews Lhanbryd Elgn LKS Glasgow > MACKENZIE Ann 1877 Dyke Elgn LKS Whiteinch > MACKENZIE James 1878 Kinloss Elgn LKS Glasgow > MACKENZIE Margaret 1877 Kinloss Elgn LKS Glasgow > MACNEIL Elizabeth 1841 Elgin Elgn Scot Montrose > MANSON John 1854 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > MASSON Jessie A. 1880 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > MASSON John 1876 Rafford Elgn LKS Glasgow > MATHESON Margaret 1877 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC BETH James 1874 Rothes Elgn LKS Old Meckland > MC CANN Catherine 1872 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC CANN James 1876 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC CANN Margaret 1879 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC CANN Mary 1880 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC DONALD Donald 1850 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC DONALD Jane 1807 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC DONALD Jessie 1876 Knockando Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC DONALD Mary 1852 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC DONALD Robert G. 1873 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC DONALD William 1875 Knockando Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC DOUGAL John 1830 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC DOUGALL Marie 1863 Duffus Elgn LKS Slamanaman > MC DOUGALL Sarah 1867 Duffus Elgn LKS Airdrie > MC FORLAIN Janet 1838 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC GARTH Margaret E. 1831 Elgin Elgn LKS Dolphinton > MC INTYRE Jane 1874 Elgin Elgn LKS Govan > MC INTYRE Jessie 1824 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC INTYRE John Graham 1830 Forres Elgn LKS Lanark > MC KAY Elizabeth 1874 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC KECHNIE Elizabeth 1840 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC KECHNIE John 1846 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC KENZIE Donald 1877 Cromdale Elgn LKS Goven > MC KENZIE Eliza 1877 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC KENZIE Neil 1862 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC KENZIE (CUMMING) Charles 1874 Edinkillie Elgn LKS New Monkland > MC KENZIE (CUMMING) Charles 1874 Edinkillie Elgn LKS New Monkland > MC LACHLAN Anthony 1853 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC LEAN Hugh 1846 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC LENNAN James 1871 Bellie Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC MILLAN William 1874 Elgin Elgn LKS Holytown > MC PHERSON Angus 1874 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC PHERSON Stephen 1880 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC PHERSON William 1876 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > MC PHERSON William B. 1879 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > MCGILLIVRAY Jane 1863 New Spynie Elgn LKS Glasgow > MEIKLE Thomas 1834 Forres Elgn LKS Strathaven > MELDRUM Margaret 1875 Forres Elgn LKS St Andrews > MELLIS Jessie 1876 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > MELVIN Margaret 1851 Elgin Elgn LKS Shotts > MILLER Alicia M.A. 1873 Forres Elgn LKS Carluke > MILLER Caroline 1874 Forres Elgn LKS Carluke > MILLER John 1835 Forres Elgn LKS Rutherglen > MILLER John L. 1871 Forres Elgn LKS Carluke > MILLER Thos. 1845 Drainie Elgn LKS Glasgow > MILNE Jane 1875 Forres Elgn LKS Govan > MILNE Maggy H. 1877 Bellie Elgn LKS Glasgow > MILTON Alexander 1878 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > MITCHELL Alica 1865 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > MITCHELL Edmund 1861 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > MITCHELL Joanna 1858 Urquhart Elgn LKS Glasgow > MORRISON Eliza 1872 St Andrews Lhanbryd Elgn LKS Glasgow > MULGROVE Cathrin 1878 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > MULGROVE Elizabeth 1852 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > MULGROVE Elizabeth 1880 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > MULGROVE George 1852 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > MULGROVE Jane 1876 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > MUNRO Donald 1807 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > MUNRO Mary A. 1817 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > MURDOCH Mary 1860 Elgin Elgn LKS Rutherglen > MURRAY James C. 1877 New Spynie Elgn LKS Glasgow > MURRAY Lillis 1844 Rafford Elgn LKS Cambusnethan > NAIRN Duncan 1854 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > NELSON Maxwell 1869 Duffus Elgn LKS Glasgow > NESBITT Mary B. P. 1826 Duffus Elgn LKS Lanark > NIEAL Jane Ann 1845 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > ORR Robert L. 1855 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > PARKER George 1845 Edinkillie Elgn LKS East Kilbride > PATTISON Isabella 1833 Elgin Elgn LKS Jerviswood > PATTISON Jane 1861 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > PETRIE Isabella 1873 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > PHEMISTER Alexander 1829 Speymouth Elgn LKS Glasgow > RAFF George Alexr. 1874 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > RAFF Janet 1830 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > REID Charles 1860 Drainie Elgn LKS Glasgow > RIACH Sylvia Alice 1872 Forres Elgn LKS Kilbryde > RIDDOCH John 1869 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > RIDDOCH Joseph 1874 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > RIDDOCH William A. 1871 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > ROBERTSON James 1833 Dyke Elgn LKS Hamilton > ROBERTSON William 1873 Drainie Elgn LKS Govan > ROBERTSON (ANDERSON) Alexander 1857 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > ROBERTSON (ANDERSON) Alexander 1857 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > ROSS Alexander 1838 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > ROSS Alexr. L. 1872 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > ROSS Amelia 1875 Forres Elgn LKS Barony > ROSS Charles 1876 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > ROSS Janet 1852 Forres Elgn LKS Bothwell > ROSS Janet 1878 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > RUSSEL Isabella 1867 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > SANDIESON James 1869 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > SCOTT Jessie 1878 Urquhart Elgn LKS Glasgow > SHANKS James 1870 Alves Elgn LKS Glasgow > SHANKS Mary 1849 Alves Elgn LKS Glasgow > SHAW Mary 1850 Drainie Elgn Scot Coatbridge > SIM Alexander 1879 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > SIM Elizabeth 1875 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > SIM Isabella 1853 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > SIM James 1876 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > SIMPSON Alex. 1867 Birnie Elgn LKS Glasgow > SIMPSON James 1845 Dallas Elgn LKS Glasgow > SINCLAIR John 1826 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > SMITH Christina 1839 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > SMITH James 1850 Drainie Elgn Scot Coatbridge > SMITH Maggie Mc Queen 1876 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > SMITH William 1873 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > SPENCE Agnes 1865 Birnie Elgn LKS Glasgow > SPENCE David 1873 Urquhart Elgn LKS Glasgow > SPENCE James D. 1850 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > STEVENSON James M. 1819 Duffus Elgn LKS Cathcart > STEWART Catherine 1852 New Spynie Elgn LKS Glasgow > STEWART Francis 1877 New Spynie Elgn LKS Glasgow > STEWART Isabella 1824 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > STEWART James 1818 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > STEWART John 1866 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > STEWART Margaret 1817 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > STORM Catherine K. 1877 Kinloss Elgn LKS Glasgow > STUART William Loch 1842 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > SYMINGTON Margaret 1847 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > TAYLOR Elspit 1870 Urquhart Elgn LKS Glasgow > TAYLOR James 1867 Bellie Elgn LKS Glasgow > TAYLOR John 1852 Cromdale Elgn LKS East Kilbryde > TAYLOR Robert 1870 Bellie Elgn LKS Glasgow > THOMSON Abbi 1829 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > THOMSON Margaret 1873 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > TORRANCE George M. 1877 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > TORRANCE Thomas A. G. 1870 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > TULLOCH Robert 1873 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > WATERS Amy A. 1876 Knockando Elgn LKS Carfin > WATERS Mary 1844 Knockando Elgn LKS Glasgow > WATERSON Robina 1838 Kinloss Elgn LKS > WATSON James 1876 Forres Elgn LKS Glasgow > WATSON Rachel 1844 Forres Elgn LKS Lanark > WILLIAMSON George 1828 Speymouth Elgn LKS Crawfordjohn > WILSON James 1824 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > WILSON Janet 1827 Elgin Elgn LKS Glasgow > WILSON Margaret 1873 Cromdale Elgn LKS Glasgow > WILSON William 1847 Elgin Elgn LKS Hamilton > WOOD Mary 1820 Drainie Elgn Scot Paisley > > Slainte! > Liz > -- > (From Lanarkshire, Scotland living in California) > http://www.geocities.com/~druidprincess/ > > > > ==== LANARK Mailing List ==== > he Scottish Church 1560 - 1929 > http://www.btinternet.com/~stnicholas.buccleuch/chart.htm > >

A happy Census Day to all. Remember that it will be 100 years before you are found out. When raking through old papers, the following list of Burgesses in Arbroath was found. No identification of the persons except their occupations and dates. This appears to be the dates that they were created Burgesses. PETRIE Alexander 1797 PETRIE Alexander grocer 1868 PETRIE Alexander weaver 1797 PETRIE Private Alexander weaver 1902 PETRIE David farmer 1803 PETRIE David manufacturer 1804 PETRIE James wright 1798 PETRIE James shoemaker 1803 PETRIE John merchant 1827 PETRIE John merchant 1808 PETRIE John merchant 1803 PETRIE John weaver 1803 PETRIE John manufacturer 1799 PETRIE Robert weaver 1797 PETRIE William carter 1799 PETRIE William merchant 1813 PETRIE William carter 1814 PETRIE William manufacturer 1804 Clare and Murray Nicoll

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 28 April 2001 20:03 Subject: [Herts] Re: 1911 Census > Hi > > I would like to draw your attention to a web page I have just read. > > www.members.aol.com/census1911/news.htm > > Regards Karren > >

Today is Census day ! Remember, before you send that dreadful form back, take a photocopy and place it in your Family Tree records. It will be your last chance. Before the year is out it will probably have been copied to disc and the original shredded. Derek

ANCESTORS. If you could see your ancestors All standing in a row, Would you be proud of them or not, Or don't you really know? Some strange discoveries are made in climbing family trees, And some of them, you know, do not particularly please. If you could see your ancestors all standing in a row, There might be some of them perhaps you wouldn't care to know. But there's a different question which requires a different view, If you could see your ancestors, Would they be proud of you?

Hello there to you Patricia, Margaret Petrie travelled out from Scotland in 1855 on her own and yes, she was a single woman and married Robert Gibson in Otago in 1859. I have always assumed that she was the Margaret Petrie who was a servant for the MacAndrews in the Thomas Burns diaries. I have been in touch with Kate Petrie and she may be able to give me a little more help. Hope I can get to the bottom of all this!! I'm sure there must have been some family back in Durris - I have not yet found who her Mother was for sure. Any help gratefully received!! Kind regards, Gillian.

Hi all While searching through some ships passenger lists I came across this - does she belong to anyone's family? Nelson Ship: 1247 tons Captain: Leslie Surgeon Superintendent: Sailed Glasgow September 30th 1875 - arrived Otago December 26th 1875 Petrie Janet 19 Fife Domestic Servant I hope someone gives her a home. Bye Patricia Taggart

Hi all, While we're on the subject of MIs, here are a few I have found - KIRRIEMUIR - Erected by ROBERT PETRIE in memory of his wife JESSIE PATERSON died 21st Feb 192(9) and of their only son HENRY LAWSON PETRIE 2nd Liet. K.O.S.B. killed in action in France 31st July 1916 the above ROBERT PETRIE, died 14th Dec 19(33) ANNIE (NAN) PATTERSON PETRIE only daughter of the above ROBERT and JESSIE PETRIE died 5th Feb 1954 -------------------------------- In loving memory of our dear mother granny & great-granny WILLIAMINA REID died 6th March 1985 aged 78 wife of the late JOHN PETRIE Ballinloan, Kirkmichael --------------------------------- In loving memory of JAMES PETRIE died 3rd Oct 1978 dear husband of CHRISTINA BUTTAR died 27th Dec 1993 aged 80 --------------------------------- In loving memory of our father JAMES PETRIE died 20th April 1953 and our mother JESSIE CHRISTIE died 10th March 1967 --------------------------------- In loving memory of JANE MUDIE PETRIE died 21st May 1973 aged 89 and her beloved husband THOMAS FYFE killed in action 9th April 1917 aged 36 also their daughter JOHAN CROALL PETRIE died 10th Aug 1999 aged 89 beloved wife of PETER DEWAR RHIND master (baker) died 28th June (????) aged 50 --------------------------------- In loving memory of MARTHA beloved daughter of ROBERT & JEAN PETRIE died 9th Jan 1964 aged 11 years --------------------------------- In loving memory of JESSIE PETRIE died 9th March 1976 aged 58 beloved wife of WILLIAM MILNE died 24th Jan 1977 aged 67 -------------------------------- In memory of my husband dad & grandad ANDREW H. PETRIE died 21st June 1980 aged 58 also his wife ANNIE HOGAN a beloved mother died 15th Sept 1986 aged 66 -------------------------------- BLAIRGOWRIE - In loving memory of MUNGO PETRIE who died 7th april 1916 aged 73 years and his wife MARGARET STIRTON who died 8th Feb 1920 aged 7(5) years and their eldest daughter MARGARET died 29th Aug 1968 aged 94 years -------------------------------- Sacred to the memory of JAMES PETRIE mill manager 54 Jessie Street Blairgowrie died 23rd September 1913 aged 57 years and ELIZABETH PETRIE his mother died 8th April 1913 aged 87 years and his brother ROBERT McDONALD PETRIE who died 28th Dec 1899 aged 37 years also his niece ISABELLA KERR who died ???? at ?? Jessie Street aged 19 years ??????? (this stone was very worn and difficult to read at the bottom) ------------------------------- BARNHILL, BROUGHTY FERRY, DUNDEE - In loving memory of my husband DAVID PETRIE died 16th Jan 1946 and ISABELLA FORBES wife of the above died 23rd Oct 1966 -------------------------------- In loving memory of JAMES PETRIE who died 6th January 1885 in his 31st year and his wife MARY HENDERSON PETRIE who died 12th July 1934 in her 81st year also their daughter ANNIE who died 16th November 1960 in her 78th year -------------------------------- Erected by GEORGE PETRIE in memory of his 2 sons GEORGE who died 26th Nov 1899 aged 27 years & JAMES who died in infancy also his wife ELIZABETH MILNE died 16th June 1905 aged 58 years the above GEORGE PETRIE died at Monifieth 1st March 1927 aged 86 years -------------------------------- Hope some of these prove useful, I should have pictures of them. Bye for now Hazel

Does anyone identify this James Petrie. The information we have collected is as follows: James b. abt 1767 at Kimlock, chr 31/12/1770 Kimlock and died 13/2/1853 at Dysart. He married 8/12/1804 at Dysart, Rachel Shield b. Abt 1783 Pathhead and d. 19/3/1852 Kirkaldy. Recorded 3 children: William b. 1816 David Abt 1818 and d. 1852 George Septimus b. abt 1821 d. Aust 1871. On the Wedsite there is a record as follows. David Petrie died 10/6/1816 and buried in Janet (Forbes) Petrie's grave who died 19/3/1789, "First" wife of James Petrie. Does anyone claim a James Petrie and Janet Forbes, that may be able to sort this out. Regards, Bill Waddingham. Australia

Dear Angus Residents, I have an all too short few hours in Dundee in the middle of May and would like to use the time as effectively as possible. As I haven't used any facilities there for family research, I wondered if any of you who know the area could give me some advice. The sorts of things I would like to research are as follows: a.. Old Kirk Session records for some Angus churches, which I know are held in the City Archivist's Department. I know exactly which ones I would like to see. Would I have to make arrangements in advance, or book? Are the staff quite helpful, possibly even looking material out in advance for me, given warning? Would I need to book a microfilm reader or anything? Where about is the Archive? What's car parking like in the city? b.. 1891 Census for Dundee, probably St Andrews Parish - where's the best place to go, the City Archives, or the Tay Valley Family History Society? Again, do I need to organise anything in advance? c.. Land Ownership records for part of Angus - Any view on the best place to go or methods to make best use of time? I doubt if I will get half of what I would like to do done, but thought I could make best use of very short and hard to get, few hours in the city with the help of you experienced researchers out there, who I know are always happy to help. I'm aware the Forfar library also has a family history section but don't think I will have time to get there. Jim Petrie, Isle of Wight

Hi Norma and all, Long time no chat.Still,I've been following things when time allows.Do you possibly have a marriage cert for the couple above.I really can't track down the parents of David with any certainty.The marriage was 26-10-1845 at St.Cyrus.Has the database been updated since it was launched? Thanks,Nick Mathews

Hi All, Don't know if others on America On-line are having e-mail kicked back since upgrading to AOL 6.0 but thought I would share the recommended RootsWeb solution. The long mail I just sent on grave inscriptions contained a lot of cut and pasted segments that must have contained illegal characters causing it to be kicked back to me by RootsWeb the first time I tried to mail it. When I followed the RootsWeb HelpDesk instructions below, it went through fine. Dave Petrie Arden Hills, Minnesota, USA ================================================== I'm an AOL user, and I have this odd problem... I have experienced problems with e-mail since upgrading to AOL 6.0. Some users have experienced format problems when they upgrade. AOL 6.0 sends e-mail to the Internet in a multipart, alternative format that includes support for both plain text and HTML. This new feature lets AOL members send rich-text mail (including font formatting, faces, colors, and sizes) to Internet recipients. When e-mailing to a RootsWeb mailing list, you will need to use the plain-text setting. RootsWeb users report the following method will enable AOL version 6.0 users to send plain text e-mails. Complete your e-mail Right click inside the text box Click Select All (at the bottom of the menu) Right Click in the text box again Click Text Click Normal Send the e-mail in the usual way

Murray & Clare Nicoll, Thank you for the time and effort recording Petrie Gravestone Inscriptions. It happens that the following inscription was by and for Robert Petrie who was the brother of my great great grandfather David Petrie. "ST CYRUS NEW Erected by ROBERT PETRIE in memory of his wife JESSIE STRACHAN who died 19 July 1897 aged 78 years also of their son WILLIAM aged 5 years JAMES aged 11 years also of their son GEORGE who died 28 June 1903 aged 55 years the above ROBERT PETRIE died 23 August 1913 aged 91 years also GEORGE BEATTIE beloved husband of JESSIE PETRIE who died at Whitehills St Cyrus 4 July 1940 in his 74 year the above JESSIE PETRIE died 14 February 1961 aged 82 years" Norma sent some very nice pictures of the gravestones a couple of years ago but I would appreciate seeing yours also. Here is some additional information on Robert, Jessie (Strachan) Petrie, William, James, George Petrie, Jessie Strachan (Petrie) Beattie [Robert's granddaughter] and George Beattie. Haven't posted anything on them in a while and it might help someone new to the list. Any comments, corrections or additions are most welcome. Robert Petrie b. 9 Jul 1821 Bogmill, Parish of Fettercairn, Kincardineshire, Scotland ch. 18 Jul 1821 Fettercairn, Kincardineshire, Scotland m(1). Jessie Strachan 4 Feb 1843 Parish of Laurencekirk, Kincardineshire, Scotland d. 23 Aug 1913 (age 91) Lochside, St.Cyrus Parish, Kincardineshire, Scotland bur. St.Cyrus churchyard. Occupation: agricultural labourer, salmon fisher. (In 1845 Robert was a labourer at Haughs of Nether Benholme the family's last recorded stop before settling in St.Cyrus.) Abodes: Fettercairn, Laurencekirk, St.Cyrus. Death certificate: occupation "Salmon Fisher" cause of death "senile decay" at the time of his death he was a widower. It lists his death certificate as being "Parish of St. Cyrus, County of Kincardine, page 5, entry 13, 1913." Death registered by George Beattie, granddaughter's husband. 1851 Census Lochside, St.Cyrus: Robert Petrie head of household, residence: Lochside, St.Cyrus, married, aged 29 years, born Kincardineshire, agricultural labourer. Jessie Petrie, wife, married, aged 31 years, born Kinneff (Kincardinshire). "Fettercairn OPR [official parish records]: 1821 July 18 James Petrie and his wife Isobel Greig at Bagmill had a child born July 9, 1821 and Baptized this day (July 18, 1821) Named ROBERT." [Malcolm Hay] Jessie (Strachen) Petrie b. 15 Mar 1819 Haircraigs, Kinneff, Kincardineshire, Scotland ch. 4 Apr 1819 Kinneff, Kincardineshire, Scotland d. 19 Jul 1897 (age 78) Lochside, St.Cyrus Parish, Kincardine, Scotland bur. St.Cyrus churchyard. Abodes: Kinneff, Laurencekirk, St.Cyrus. Parents: George Strachan & Elizabeth Moonlight. William Petrie b. 1849/50 St.Cyrus Parish, Kincardineshire, Scotland d. 1854/55 (age 5) St.Cyrus Parish, Kincardineshire, Scotland (age 5). 1851 Census Lochside, St.Cyrus: William Petrie son, aged 1 year, born St.Cyrus. Died about the same time as his older brother James. He is mentioned on his parent's headstone in St.Cyrus churchyard. James Petrie b 1842/43 Parish of Laurencekirk, Kincardineshire, Scotland d. 1853/54 (age 11) St.Cyrus, Kincardineshire, Scotland. 1851 Census Lochside, St.Cyrus Parish: James Petrie son, aged 8 years, scholar, born Laurencekirk (Kincardineshire). Died about the same time as his younger brother William. He is mentioned on his parent's headstone in St.Cyrus churchyard. George Petrie b. 12 Oct 1847 Benholm, St.Cyrus Parish, Kincardineshire, Scotland d. 28 Jun 1903 (age 55) Durie Salmon Fishing Station, Scoonie, Fife, Scotland (Usual address: St.Cyrus). Cause of death: perforation of the bowel and peritonitis. Occupation: salmon fisher. 1851 Census Lochside, St.Cyrus: George Petrie son, aged 3 years, born St.Cyrus. George too was mentioned on his parent's headstone in St.Cyrus Churchyard. Andrew Petrie [Son of above Robert Petrie and father of Jessie Strachan Petrie below] ch. 15 Jun 1845 Parish of Benholm, Kincardineshire, Scotland m. Ann Jamieson 9 Dec 1875 30 North Ellen Street, Dundee, Scotland. d. 29 Mar 1930 21 Bonnybank Road, Dundee, Scotland (St.Andrew). Occupation: grocer's warehouseman, grocer's porter, brewer's porter (possibly all the same job), mechanic. Marriage certificate: Dundee, District of St.Clement 282-4 page 177 entry no. 353, Andrew Petrie aged 30 bachelor brewery porter of 1 Ellen Street, Dundee Parents: Robert Petrie (Salmon Fisher), Jessie Petrie (nee Strachan), Ann Jamieson, aged 28 spinster domestic servant of 30 North Ellen Street, Dundee Parents: James Jamieson (General Carter)-(deceased), Jane Jamieson (nee Ogilvy), (deceased) witnesses: David Edwards & Frances Anderson. 1851 Census Lochside, St.Cyrus: Andrew Petrie son, aged 6 years, scholar, born Benholm. 1881 Census Dundee (Ref: 282-4 District 33 Page 23) Andrew Petrie age 35 married head of household grocer's warehouseman born Benholm; Annie Petrie age 33 wife married born Brechin. Jessie Strachan Petrie b. 11 Aug 1878 1 North Ellen Street, Dundee, Scotland ch. "1 September 1878 by Rev A Bell, St Andrews Church and Parish, Dundee, ANDREW PETRIE mechanic, ANNIE JAMIESON, 4 North Ellen Street, Dundee" [Baptismal Register of the St Andrews Church and Parish, Dundee, 10 November 1871 - 8 March 1887] m. George Beattie 12 Jun 1909 Lochside, St.Cyrus, Kincardineshire, Scotland d. 14 Feb 1961 (age 82) Whitehill(s), St.Cyrus, Scotland ["Whitehills is the name of the family home of Jessie Beattie, the granddaughter of Robert Petrie/Jessie Strachan who was buried with them and is commemorated on their gravestone too." - Norma (Petrie) Thain, 1998] bur. With her Petrie grandparents in St.Cyrus (likely that Jessie and George lived with her Petrie grandparents). George b. Abt. 1867 d. 4 Jul 1940 (age 74) Whitehill(s), St.Cyrus, Kincardineshire, Scotland. 1881 Census Dundee: Jessie S. Petrie daughter age 2 born Dundee. Jessie was the informant on the death certificate (18 Sep 1911, Montrose) of her grandfather Robert's sister, Jean Mather Petrie Bain. Apparently Jean Mather Petrie and John Millar Bain had no children of their own. My great great grandfather (brother to the above Robert Petrie) was David Petrie: David Petrie b. 3 Sep 1804 (ch. 25 Dec 1804) Drumhendrie, Parish of Fettercairn, Kincardineshire, Scotland m(1). Mary Steele "Peebles" 12 Jun 1830 St.Cyrus Parish, Kincardineshire, Scotland d. 23 Jul 1877 at 3:05 AM (age 73 years 11 months) Braefoot, Carnoustie, Barry, Angus, Scotland. Occupation: ploughman, agricultural labourer and cattle keeper. David's death certificate: occupation given as "Ploughman." Cause of death shown as "Chronic Diarrhea (2 months). Death registered by Alexander Paton (brother-in-law) Dundee Street, Carnoustie, 24 July 1877 at Barry Angus. Mary: bur. Saint Vigeans, near Arbroath, Scotland. 1841 census for St. Vigeans: age 35, address Cairnbennet, St. Vigeans, Angus, agricultural labourer. FORDOUN OPR 1828 Baptisms (LDS film 0993317): "JAMES PATRIE subtenant on Drumsleed and ISOBEL GREIG his wife had their daughter JEAN born 10th July 1828 Baptized August 17 1828. (end of entry)" Baptism was witnessed by "John & David Petrie, sons of the said James Petrie." Mary Steel Petrie age 35. 1871 census: Braefoot, Barry, Carnoustie occupation labourer, age 66 years, place of birth Fettercairn, marital status widower. From Mary Gunn-Smallwood's work "When Leland and Faye Gubb visited Scotland in 1979 they were able to find the cemetery in which he (David) was buried, but since there were no headstones, could not find the exact grave." Also, the information on David and his family came, in part, from the back of a photograph of David. Norma (Petrie) Thain writes further (1998) "You will notice that DAVID & MARY married in St.Cyrus, Kincardineshire, have a look at your map of Scotland and you will see that although they married in another County, Kincardine borders with Angus, and St.Cyrus is very near to Montrose, they then moved onto Logie-Pert, which is a small village between St.Cyrus & Brechin in Angus. They are next noted in Dunnichen, Angus, which is lovely because it's only about 1 mile from my home and my children go to Sunday School in the same church they had (their son) David Petrie christened in..... (my GGGGGrandmother was also christened in Dunnichen Church in 1765, her father was the local miller), they have then moved onto St. Vigeans, which is just outside Arbroath and perhaps they were all living in Panbride which is just outside Carnoustie around the 1860's at the time of (their daughter) Mary's marriage (1863) and before his (David's) death in Carnoustie in 1877. They certainly moved around in comparison to other Petrie's at that time." [See comments concerning hiring fairs from Christine Mary (Mackenzie) Glover of Falkirk, Stirlingshire, Scotland under Robert Petrie b. 17 Feb 1883, the grandson of this David's brother Robert. Christine's comments help explain why the family of a ploughman would have had to move so often.] Mary b. Abt. 1804 Angus, Scotland d. Bef. 1846 St. Vigeans, Angus, Scotland. Notes for MARY STEELE: On her son James' birth record extract "Peebles" is attached to Mary's name. This is the area in St. Vigeans Parish where the family probably lived when James was born in 1841. It may have been a farm or an estate. It still appears on the Scottish ordinance survey map today as "Peebles." The following description from St. Vigeans contains a reference to "Peebles." " The following are the names I collected at St. Vigeans churchyard extension, which does not have many old stones. Sandstone, 4 feet tall. Script C/In loving memory/of/JamesCuthill/late of/Mid Peebles Farm/who died 27th September 1962/aged 81 years/At rest. (Mid Peebles is about 2 miles northwest.)" [Bob Duncan] Dave Petrie Arden Hills, Minnesota, USA [email protected]