Dear 5th. Cousin, you are right, although it's not my fault. "Familysearch" gives you two families, mine when you type in Petrie and yours when you type in Pedrie. I just was not smart enough to pick up that they were the same family. I have heaps more info for you will type it up and send it soon. Russ. Also some info on the Birrell's, that might tie in.

Dear Rosemary, Have tried to email you a few times without success,and wondered if you could call back with a full print-out of your email address. Maybe it's me being a bit thick !! While I'm here,can I ask if you are Eddie's sister ? Will hopefully make contact again later. Love Ella -- <Created and sent to you using the Amstrad [email protected]>

Hi to Russell and all our Petrie of Kettle researchers, !! :o) I do not have a record of an 1811 marriage date for a James Petrie & Mary Wallace, can you tell me where you sourced it ?? I am wondering if the 1811 date could possibly be a transcription error since the IGI record shows a marriage date of 11 October 1815...did the day get mixed up with the year ?? Only sure way of checking is to have a look at the Old Parish Record entries for these date, these records are available on Microfilm from any LDS Family History Centre. But since we have quite a few researchers on the list who are descended from this line, perhaps someone has checked through these records already, and can let us know ?? I have noted below the transcriptions I have from the death certificates for the James Petrie & Mary Wallace who I attribute to the 1815 marriage date, these show the parents names so hope they may prove useful for yourself and anyone else interested... Death Certificate Ref: 1886 KETTLE, Fife Page 3 Entry 8 (source Scottish Records Office) JAMES PETRIE Linen Weaver Widower of MARY WALLACE died 16 March 1886 at 2.15 pm at Bankton Park, Kettle Age 96 years Parents: WILLIAM PETRIE - Linen Weaver - deceased JANET PETRIE ms BUCK - deceased Cause of Death : Old Age - No Medical Attendant Death registered by E. MELDRUM - Neighbour of Bankton Park, Kettle on 17 March 1886 @ Kettle ********** Death Certificate Ref: 1863 KETTLE Page 14 Entry 41 (source Scottish Records Office) MARY PETRIE wife of JAMES PETRIE - Hand Loom Linen Weaver died 23 October 1863 @ 1.00 pm at Myreside, Parish of Kettle age 78 years Parents: HENRY WALLACE - Baker - deceased GRACE WALLACE ms FLEMING - deceased Cause of Death: Old Age - No Medical Attendant Death registered by HENRY PETRIE, Son of Pennycuik on 26 October 1863 @ Kettle, Fife ************ Cheerio Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 12:51 PM Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] Petrie / Wallace > Dear Norma, we have two James Petrie m. Mary Wallace one in 1811 and one in > 1815. > Would it be possible for you to find the parents of these two couples, please. > I have tried using Family Search without success. Thank you in anticipation, > Russell Addison. > > > ==== PETRIE-SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== > Checkout the Petrie Querie Board & Petrie Resource Page on the WWW > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/pet/Petrie > >

Hi Jim As per my recent reply to Murray, I too am related to his line of Petrie's. But I thought I would just drop you a note and tell you that originally I too am from Keith and grew up there with the rest of my family. My parents still live there as well. There is also 3-5 other Petrie families there, but none of them related to our line (as far as I know at the moment), so now you know another 'Keith' Petrie. regards Carol Inverness ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Petrie <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [Petrie-Scotland] Petrie Family History > Hi Murray, > > I was interested in the work you have done on the north east Petries as I > grew up in Banffshire myself, though from Dundee stock. I still know at > least one Petrie in Keith who may be able to give you some information. Will > try and see him the next time I am up and find out if he is interested in > family history. > > You ask about the Petrie MacGregor connection. I have done some digging on > this as am interested in the early roots of the name. It seems to be > recognised, that when the name MacGregor was banned or proscribed by James > VI, that some took up the name Petrie and this is why Petrie is a sept of > the Clan. No-one has ever been able to present any written evidence of this. > I have had a message on the MacGregor Clan site for some time asking for > more historical background, but it has never been forthcoming. The name was > around before this time anyway and it would have made sense for MacGregors, > looking for an alternative name, to choose an existing one, with no adverse > political connotations. We may be able to conclude that the Petries were > pretty neutral politically, or of little power and influence if the name was > seen as a safe one to adopt in troubled times. > > I can be more precise on the coat of arms and the motto "Fide Sed Vide". I > have corresponded directly with both Petries listed in Debrettes, Lord > Petre, and Sir Peter Petrie. Lord Petre, who has a distinguished family > history going way back, was able to tell me that their name is completely > unrelated to us Petries. The name was in fact a fabricated one, when the > family acquired the Manor of Ingatestone in 1538. The motto of the manor was > "Ginge ad Petram", and they changed their name to Petre, to give it a > spurious ancestral link with the manor. > > Now the coat of AGMs and motto belong to Sir Peter Petrie's family, but is > of recent origin. The first of the line was Sir Charles Petrie, elevated in > 1918, for his work as mayor of Liverpool and Leader of the Conservative > Party. Although the family came to Liverpool from Ireland, they seem to > originate in Aberdeenshire, so are one of us. > > Norma has done a count, and it is clear that Angus was the centre of Petrie > origins in Scotland, with groups in the north east, and Orkney. It would be > very interesting to see your work on tracking this movement to the NE. > > There are clusters of Petries in various parts of Europe, but it seems > unlikely that they are linked to the Scots. The most likely explanation is > that when surnames become more common, they used the patronymic version of > Peter or its latinised version, Petrus and adopted it as a surname. Thus the > same name can pop up in various locations, though unconnected. The Scottish > Petrie group does seem to be a single group, however, plus the MacGregors > who adopted it, and your research would help us prove this. > > Jim Petrie, Isle of Wight. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Murray Petrie <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:18 PM > Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] Petrie Family History > > > > The base from which I have worked my family history researches is the > > contention of my grandfather that all the Petries of the Northeast of > > Scotland are indeed related. To this end I have complied a card index of > > the Petries recorded in the IGI for the counties of Moray, Banff, Aberdeen > > and Kincardine. The record of there movement over time seems to be clear > as > > they moved from Moray through Banff into Aberdeen and Kincardine. Though > > family groupings can be identified the difficulty arises in the tying of > > which William to which John or James with a sometime George or Alexander > > thrown in. The additions of a Joseph, Andrew, Charles, Robert and Samuel > in > > my own family made things a little easier as they lived and grew in the > > Parish of Kennethmont. They were the sons of William Petrie who married > > twice first to Ann Isaac and then to Ann Robertson. His own family > numbered > > 14 children who seemed to break the norm and lived beyond childhood. This > > resulted in a known 41 grandchildren of whose descendants apart from my > own > > I have only been able to contact three. One line remains near there > origins > > at the parish of Clatt, one is in New Zealand and another in Canada. > > > > My Grandfather also contended that we were a clan in our own right and to > > this end I wonder if anyone has done work on the origins and history of > the > > MacPetries of Mar recorded as being MacGregors. In this same line of > > research has anyone done any research on the original holders of the > Petrie > > Crest and motto "Fide Sed Vide" > > > > One of my roadblocks has been to sort out the Petries as they moved in and > > out of the Parish of Drumblade however without some additional information > > it is impossible to attached which William to which John or James. I have > > made one or two positive connects without being able to tie them > positively > > to my own line. > > > > Regards Murray. > > > > > > > > ==== PETRIE-SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== > > Checkout the Petrie Querie Board & Petrie Resource Page on the WWW > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/pet/Petrie > > > > > > > ==== PETRIE-SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== > Need Assistance.... > your Petrie-Scotland List Administrator is Norma Thain...contact her at [email protected] >

Hi Murray I'm Carol Petrie and like George Robb, George Henderson and George Brander I am a descendant (directly thru the male line) of William Petrie and his second wife Ann Robertson. If memory serves my right I think your name was given to me last year by George Henderson, but I have not yet managed to write to you directly. Are you a descendant of Robert Petrie and wife Ann Wink ? If you care to give me your address I will be happy to send you a copy of my Petrie family tree which includes info on their 3 childen William, Joseph & Isabella. Regards Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: Murray Petrie <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:18 PM Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] Petrie Family History > The base from which I have worked my family history researches is the > contention of my grandfather that all the Petries of the Northeast of > Scotland are indeed related. To this end I have complied a card index of > the Petries recorded in the IGI for the counties of Moray, Banff, Aberdeen > and Kincardine. The record of there movement over time seems to be clear as > they moved from Moray through Banff into Aberdeen and Kincardine. Though > family groupings can be identified the difficulty arises in the tying of > which William to which John or James with a sometime George or Alexander > thrown in. The additions of a Joseph, Andrew, Charles, Robert and Samuel in > my own family made things a little easier as they lived and grew in the > Parish of Kennethmont. They were the sons of William Petrie who married > twice first to Ann Isaac and then to Ann Robertson. His own family numbered > 14 children who seemed to break the norm and lived beyond childhood. This > resulted in a known 41 grandchildren of whose descendants apart from my own > I have only been able to contact three. One line remains near there origins > at the parish of Clatt, one is in New Zealand and another in Canada. > > My Grandfather also contended that we were a clan in our own right and to > this end I wonder if anyone has done work on the origins and history of the > MacPetries of Mar recorded as being MacGregors. In this same line of > research has anyone done any research on the original holders of the Petrie > Crest and motto "Fide Sed Vide" > > One of my roadblocks has been to sort out the Petries as they moved in and > out of the Parish of Drumblade however without some additional information > it is impossible to attached which William to which John or James. I have > made one or two positive connects without being able to tie them positively > to my own line. > > Regards Murray. > > > > ==== PETRIE-SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== > Checkout the Petrie Querie Board & Petrie Resource Page on the WWW > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/pet/Petrie >

Dear Norma, we have two James Petrie m. Mary Wallace one in 1811 and one in 1815. Would it be possible for you to find the parents of these two couples, please. I have tried using Family Search without success. Thank you in anticipation, Russell Addison.

Hi Gang, For the benefit of our New List Members.... here is a summary of the details of our Petrie of Scotland Gathering which will be held in August 2001 in Dundee, Scotland.... Everyone on this list is invited to attend as many of the undernoted events as they please, and of course bring along their family members or friends who might be interested in attending too. CIVIC RECEPTION, Friday 10 August 2001 7pm ------------------------------------------------------------------- Our group have been invited to a Civic Reception with the Lord Provost of Dundee who wishes to welcome the Petrie of Scotland Genealogical Group to the City of Dundee ... there is no charge for this event. PETRIE GATHERING - Marryat Hall, Dundee Saturday 11 August 2001..... 10 am - 12 Noon (setting up & blether time) 12 noon - 4.30 pm (Petrie public joining us...) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Our Gathering will be an excellent opportunity for us all to display our Petrie Family Tree's, Family Pictures, and any other items and memorabilia, which might be of interest or use. Tables will be available for you to display your Petrie stuff...... We will have from 10 am till 12 noon to spend time together and set up our displays. We will open our doors to the Petrie public from 12 noon - 4.30 pm...... Cafeteria, toilet and disabled access facilities will also be available. CEILIDH, Saturday Evening 11 August 2001 ------------------------------------------------------------ Our Petrie Family Ceilidh is being hosted by Hazel & Dave Garside (of the Kirkmichael Petrie's) at their Home Farm in Rattray, Perthshire, here we can celebrate our family gathering in the same way as many of our Scottish Ancestors did..... in the barn & courtyard, with the fiddle & accordion ringing in our ears !! There will be a ticket cost involved....to cover the costs of caterers, entertainers etc. and as soon as we can establish final numbers attending will let you know what it is. TOURIST ATTRACTIONS in ANGUS for Sunday 12 August 2001 - Discount Tickets. -------------------------------------------------------------- The Dundee & Angus Tourist Board will also be setting up a display at our Gathering at the Marryat Hall on Saturday 11th, and they are currently negotiating discount tickets for a variety of tourist attractions in the Angus area for us. I expect they will be available either as coupons or for sale at the Tourist Board display stand.... but only if you want them.....we are under no obligation to purchase !! SCOTTISH RECORDS OFFICE - Edinburgh. Monday 13 August 2001 9.00 am - 4.00 pm -------------------------------------------------------------- This will be an early start in Edinburgh, so some might prefer to head to Edinburgh for an overnight stay on Sunday night and meet at SRO on Monday morning..... you pay on entry and the current daily ticket price is 17.00 pounds There is an alternative charge which is currently 10 pounds, for access from 1pm to 4.30 pm for those who would prefer a later start and shorter visit :o) At the SRO you can access information on all your Scottish Surname interests they hold the Birth, Marriage & Death certificates from 1855 to 2000, the Old Parish Records, the 1881 & 1891 census indexes. There are very many more records which are available at SRO, but too numerous to mention here. Do check out the SRO website to see a list of all the records available..... http://wood.ccta.gov.uk/grosweb/grosweb.nsf/pages/index MILITARY TATTOO - Monday 13 August 2001 9 pm - Evening Performance ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Since some of us will be in Edinburgh at the Scottish Records Office this might be a nice way to finish the day. Tickets for the Edinburgh Military Tattoo can be ordered on-line or by telephone, tickets for this year's 2001 performance became available this month .... and appear to be going fast !! http://www2.edinburgh-tattoo.co.uk/ Click on "Tickets" in the main webpage index.... and be sure to check out the Seating Plan with Prices & the Performance Details & Ticket Availability, before booking your tickets on-line. ACCOMMODATION ------------------------- The Dundee & Angus Tourist Board have offered us free assistance for anyone looking for accommodation in the area. You can contact them via their website at http://www.angusanddundee.co.uk/intro.htm Alternatively, if you are planning on finding accommodation elsewhere in Scotland, checkout the Scottish Tourist Boards website at http://www.visitscotland.com/ *********** A "Gathering Attendance" form is available if you are planning to attend any of the above events. Please contact me directly ... or find a copy of the form in the News section of our Petrie-Scotland Website. Attendance details need to be in to me by Sunday June 10th 2001 latest if you wish to attend the above events. Cheerio the noo Norma [email protected]

Norma, As I've just joined I haven't heard about the gathering. Could yousend me details please. I live in Edinburgh and it would be great to meet up in the evening with people coming to Edinburgh.Please let me know where you will be eating once you decide. Carole Redpath ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norma Thain" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 2:32 PM Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] Family Gathering Update > Hi Gang, > > With the Gathering only a few weeks away now.....here is an update for all > who are attending :o) > > All events are as previously posted, and I will send a final schedule of > events to the list shortly for the benefit of our newest members, and will > definitely and finally close the Attendance Lists on Sunday 10th June :o) > > Hazel and I are now working on 100 people for each of the 3 main > events....the Civic Reception, the Gathering, and the Ceilidh. So lots of > people for us all to meet up and blether with !!! :o) > > I will during June month personally contact everyone (via e.mail) who has > already sent me their Attendance forms, to confirm all details and get a > postal address etc. > > Tickets for the Civic Reception on Friday 10th August > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Will be posted out in early July, I understand some folks are starting out > on their trips from mid July onwards, so this will ensure they have them > before they leave. > > > Tickets for the Ceilidh > --------------------------- > Will be available to be purchased at the Gathering at the Marryat Hall > between 10.00 am and 12 noon when we are setting up our Family Displays, > your name will be listed to make sure you don't miss getting your tickets. > > I reckon this is probably the best set-up in this instance, else we can end > up in all sorts of problems with various currencies and bank drafts etc if > we try to collect Ceilidh Ticket monies beforehand. I'm looking for 1 or 2 > people used to handling and counting UK cash to help with this, please > contact me > direct if you can volunteer to help man the Ceilidh Ticket Desk. > > Hazel (of the Kirkmichael Petrie's) & her husband Dave are very kindly > organising the Ceilidh for us and playing host on the night at their farm at > South Littleton, Rattray. We had a chat on the phone today and all plans are > in place. Ticket price should be finalised over the next couple of weeks. > > Should anyone prefer to leave the car and take group transport to and from > the Ceilidh on the evening of Saturday 11th > I have booked a coach to be available in Dundee City Centre > (7 pm pick up at Albert Museum) to take folks to the Ceilidh at South > Littleton, Rattray and return at midnight to Dundee, with a door to door > drop off (within Dundee) on the return journey. > > The price on a 30 seater coach provided all seats are taken works out at > £4.00 per person for the return journey.... and more coaches are available > should we need them. I suspect the journey home on the bus might take a > while with folks getting dropped off at their hotels etc. But you can also > look > on it as a late night tour of Dundee..... !!! :o) > > Bus tickets for those who pre-book, will also be available to be purchased > at the Gathering at the same desk as the Ceilidh tickets. I will enquire > whether you wish to book tickets for the bus when I contact you to confirm > your attendance details & postal address etc. > > As I mentioned previously in my mail to Jim Petrie.... I have been in touch > with the organisers of the Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Exhibition > which is being held until September 2001 at the Burrell Collection in > Glasgow, and they have asked if we would be interested in doing a joint > press release on the > Gathering and the Exhibition...I have of course said yes, so we may hit the > National Newspapers yet !!! :o) > > Smaller numbers are participating in the trip to SRO & the Military Tattoo > on Monday 13th.... so we have manageable numbers to organise a convoy > drive through from Dundee, or some might prefer to take the train, or > alternatively head for Edinburgh on the Sunday, and meet us there on the > Monday. You also have an option of a full day at Scottish Records Office > (New Register House) 9.00 am - 4.30 pm or a 1pm - 4.30 pm session. > > We can then perhaps meet up for an evening meal in a nice place in the City > Centre (suggestions of where to go... most welcome) before we say our > Goodbye's and finish our evening at the Military Tattoo. I will discuss > these options soon with those who have indicated to me that they plan to > attend the SRO & Tattoo events on Monday 13th. > > Anyone not able to attend the Gathering but wishing to send on their family > tree's, photographs, family memento's etc. Can send photocopies (don't > want to be responsible for original documents !! :o) on to me, and we shall > be pleased to display them at the Gathering.....you'll get my postal address > in our Petrie-Scotland Website...just click on my name in the member list. > > Counting the days ...... !!! :o) > For the noo > Norma > > > > ==== PETRIE-SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== > Need Assistance.... > your Petrie-Scotland List Administrator is Norma Thain...contact her at [email protected] >

I used John Berti's extractions from the popular Ellis Island website to further extract those Petries who gave Scotland as their residence, port of departure, or ethnicity. It's in a database format (Microsoft Works) and if you know how to use filters [I don't :-( ]you can find family groups who travelled together by locating those who arrived on the same date and ship. There aren't many; most of those who came were singles in their 20's after WWI. Enjoy! Karen Hutten

George Petrie eas born on 11th September 1863.His father James Petrie was indeed born in 1837 as stated.In the same paragraph,George Petries's mother was Agnes Dunn, NOT Duncan. Many thanks to Bill Taylor of Maine USA , for pointing this out. ( HI Bill,good to hear from you ) Bye for now Ella -- <Created and sent to you using the Amstrad [email protected]>

Hi Murray, I was interested in the work you have done on the north east Petries as I grew up in Banffshire myself, though from Dundee stock. I still know at least one Petrie in Keith who may be able to give you some information. Will try and see him the next time I am up and find out if he is interested in family history. You ask about the Petrie MacGregor connection. I have done some digging on this as am interested in the early roots of the name. It seems to be recognised, that when the name MacGregor was banned or proscribed by James VI, that some took up the name Petrie and this is why Petrie is a sept of the Clan. No-one has ever been able to present any written evidence of this. I have had a message on the MacGregor Clan site for some time asking for more historical background, but it has never been forthcoming. The name was around before this time anyway and it would have made sense for MacGregors, looking for an alternative name, to choose an existing one, with no adverse political connotations. We may be able to conclude that the Petries were pretty neutral politically, or of little power and influence if the name was seen as a safe one to adopt in troubled times. I can be more precise on the coat of arms and the motto "Fide Sed Vide". I have corresponded directly with both Petries listed in Debrettes, Lord Petre, and Sir Peter Petrie. Lord Petre, who has a distinguished family history going way back, was able to tell me that their name is completely unrelated to us Petries. The name was in fact a fabricated one, when the family acquired the Manor of Ingatestone in 1538. The motto of the manor was "Ginge ad Petram", and they changed their name to Petre, to give it a spurious ancestral link with the manor. Now the coat of AGMs and motto belong to Sir Peter Petrie's family, but is of recent origin. The first of the line was Sir Charles Petrie, elevated in 1918, for his work as mayor of Liverpool and Leader of the Conservative Party. Although the family came to Liverpool from Ireland, they seem to originate in Aberdeenshire, so are one of us. Norma has done a count, and it is clear that Angus was the centre of Petrie origins in Scotland, with groups in the north east, and Orkney. It would be very interesting to see your work on tracking this movement to the NE. There are clusters of Petries in various parts of Europe, but it seems unlikely that they are linked to the Scots. The most likely explanation is that when surnames become more common, they used the patronymic version of Peter or its latinised version, Petrus and adopted it as a surname. Thus the same name can pop up in various locations, though unconnected. The Scottish Petrie group does seem to be a single group, however, plus the MacGregors who adopted it, and your research would help us prove this. Jim Petrie, Isle of Wight. ----- Original Message ----- From: Murray Petrie <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 6:18 PM Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] Petrie Family History > The base from which I have worked my family history researches is the > contention of my grandfather that all the Petries of the Northeast of > Scotland are indeed related. To this end I have complied a card index of > the Petries recorded in the IGI for the counties of Moray, Banff, Aberdeen > and Kincardine. The record of there movement over time seems to be clear as > they moved from Moray through Banff into Aberdeen and Kincardine. Though > family groupings can be identified the difficulty arises in the tying of > which William to which John or James with a sometime George or Alexander > thrown in. The additions of a Joseph, Andrew, Charles, Robert and Samuel in > my own family made things a little easier as they lived and grew in the > Parish of Kennethmont. They were the sons of William Petrie who married > twice first to Ann Isaac and then to Ann Robertson. His own family numbered > 14 children who seemed to break the norm and lived beyond childhood. This > resulted in a known 41 grandchildren of whose descendants apart from my own > I have only been able to contact three. One line remains near there origins > at the parish of Clatt, one is in New Zealand and another in Canada. > > My Grandfather also contended that we were a clan in our own right and to > this end I wonder if anyone has done work on the origins and history of the > MacPetries of Mar recorded as being MacGregors. In this same line of > research has anyone done any research on the original holders of the Petrie > Crest and motto "Fide Sed Vide" > > One of my roadblocks has been to sort out the Petries as they moved in and > out of the Parish of Drumblade however without some additional information > it is impossible to attached which William to which John or James. I have > made one or two positive connects without being able to tie them positively > to my own line. > > Regards Murray. > > > > ==== PETRIE-SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== > Checkout the Petrie Querie Board & Petrie Resource Page on the WWW > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/pet/Petrie > >

Hi Gang, With the Gathering only a few weeks away now.....here is an update for all who are attending :o) All events are as previously posted, and I will send a final schedule of events to the list shortly for the benefit of our newest members, and will definitely and finally close the Attendance Lists on Sunday 10th June :o) Hazel and I are now working on 100 people for each of the 3 main events....the Civic Reception, the Gathering, and the Ceilidh. So lots of people for us all to meet up and blether with !!! :o) I will during June month personally contact everyone (via e.mail) who has already sent me their Attendance forms, to confirm all details and get a postal address etc. Tickets for the Civic Reception on Friday 10th August ---------------------------------------------------------------- Will be posted out in early July, I understand some folks are starting out on their trips from mid July onwards, so this will ensure they have them before they leave. Tickets for the Ceilidh --------------------------- Will be available to be purchased at the Gathering at the Marryat Hall between 10.00 am and 12 noon when we are setting up our Family Displays, your name will be listed to make sure you don't miss getting your tickets. I reckon this is probably the best set-up in this instance, else we can end up in all sorts of problems with various currencies and bank drafts etc if we try to collect Ceilidh Ticket monies beforehand. I'm looking for 1 or 2 people used to handling and counting UK cash to help with this, please contact me direct if you can volunteer to help man the Ceilidh Ticket Desk. Hazel (of the Kirkmichael Petrie's) & her husband Dave are very kindly organising the Ceilidh for us and playing host on the night at their farm at South Littleton, Rattray. We had a chat on the phone today and all plans are in place. Ticket price should be finalised over the next couple of weeks. Should anyone prefer to leave the car and take group transport to and from the Ceilidh on the evening of Saturday 11th I have booked a coach to be available in Dundee City Centre (7 pm pick up at Albert Museum) to take folks to the Ceilidh at South Littleton, Rattray and return at midnight to Dundee, with a door to door drop off (within Dundee) on the return journey. The price on a 30 seater coach provided all seats are taken works out at £4.00 per person for the return journey.... and more coaches are available should we need them. I suspect the journey home on the bus might take a while with folks getting dropped off at their hotels etc. But you can also look on it as a late night tour of Dundee..... !!! :o) Bus tickets for those who pre-book, will also be available to be purchased at the Gathering at the same desk as the Ceilidh tickets. I will enquire whether you wish to book tickets for the bus when I contact you to confirm your attendance details & postal address etc. As I mentioned previously in my mail to Jim Petrie.... I have been in touch with the organisers of the Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Exhibition which is being held until September 2001 at the Burrell Collection in Glasgow, and they have asked if we would be interested in doing a joint press release on the Gathering and the Exhibition...I have of course said yes, so we may hit the National Newspapers yet !!! :o) Smaller numbers are participating in the trip to SRO & the Military Tattoo on Monday 13th.... so we have manageable numbers to organise a convoy drive through from Dundee, or some might prefer to take the train, or alternatively head for Edinburgh on the Sunday, and meet us there on the Monday. You also have an option of a full day at Scottish Records Office (New Register House) 9.00 am - 4.30 pm or a 1pm - 4.30 pm session. We can then perhaps meet up for an evening meal in a nice place in the City Centre (suggestions of where to go... most welcome) before we say our Goodbye's and finish our evening at the Military Tattoo. I will discuss these options soon with those who have indicated to me that they plan to attend the SRO & Tattoo events on Monday 13th. Anyone not able to attend the Gathering but wishing to send on their family tree's, photographs, family memento's etc. Can send photocopies (don't want to be responsible for original documents !! :o) on to me, and we shall be pleased to display them at the Gathering.....you'll get my postal address in our Petrie-Scotland Website...just click on my name in the member list. Counting the days ...... !!! :o) For the noo Norma

This is my first contact with the list, so I'd like to say hello to everyone. I am a one finger typist who doesn't own a computer so my daughter has kindly agreed to type this out for me, although all replies will come to my emailer ([email protected]). I'd like to pass on the following information on our PETRIE connections. Elizabeth Ann Petrie (my husbands mother) was born at Drumoak, Aberdeenshire on 9/2/1898. She married Robert Cook at the Gordon Arms Hotel, Culter on 31/3/1917. Elizabeth (Petrie) Cook died in Aberdeen in January 1972. Elizabeth's parents were George Petrie (b 11/9/1863 at Craig just south of Montrose) and Isabella Hunter Alexander (b 29/1/1859 at Drumoak). They married at Drumoak on 12/12/1884. George Petrie died 18/12/1937 in Aberdeen and his wife Isabella (Alexander) Petrie died 21/12/1918 in Aberdeen. George and Isabella's family were:- James B c1886 at Drumoak Isabella B c1888 at Glenbervie George B c1889 at Arbuthnott Mary B c1890 at Arbuthnott. Apart from Elizabeth (B 9/2/1898) there was also Janet, William, May, Margaret, Robert and Twins (believed to have died in infancy) but I have no details on any of them yet. George (B c1889 Arbuthnott) emigrated to Brooks, Alberta, Canada in the early 1910s and died there sometime in the late 1950s or early 1960s. We have two small photographs of him taken beside what looks like a war memorial, but have no further information on his life in Canada. Has anyone come across him in their "digging" travels? The parents of George Petrie (B c1837 Durris) were James Petrie (B c1837 at Durris) and Agnes Duncan (B c1829 at Durris). They married at Kineff on 25/11/1859. Their family were:- Alexander B 24/6/1860 at St Cyrus James B 19/2/1862 at Cookney George B 11/9/1863 at Craig. James Petrie had died in July 1863 just two months before his last son was born. The parents of James Petrie (B c1837 Durris) were William Petrie and possibly Isabel Gordon. The couple also had a daughter Margaret B 21/9/1834, but were not married. William Petrie eventually married a Marjorie Grieve on 8/11/1839 at Bervie, Kincardineshire. Their family were:- Alexander B 22/3/1841 William B 8/4/1844 George B 18/4/1846 Elisabeth B 13/12/1849 Sarah Taylor Niddrie B 22/12/1852 (These children were recorded at Gourdon in the OPRs of Bervie) Bye for now. Ella (Cook)

Hi there, I have recently been able to update some Petrie deaths, and thought you might be interested, the first is from the Commonealth war Graves Commission site, do you realise there are a total of 95 PETRIE names?, not all have as much detail as this. JAMES HOWIE PETRIE Corporal 265736 H.Q. Staff, 1st/6th Bn., Gordon Highlanders who died on Tuesday, 26th March 1918. Age 28. Additional Information: Son of Andrew and Annie Petrie, of Kemnay, Aberdeenshire. Enlisted Aug., 1914. Previously wounded at Neuve Chapelle. A banker by profession. Commemorative Information Cemetery: ST. HILAIRE CEMETERY, FREVENT, Pas de Calais, France Grave Reference / Panel Number: V. F. 9. I have also been able to get a bit more information on the accident at Craigellachie Bridge where Charles PETRIE, foreman surfaceman of Drummuir, the eldest son of Charles and Isabella PETRIE, of Leslie, Aberdeenshire, received fatal injuries, he died 22 April 1907, he was married to Isabella Grant, According to the Banffshire Herald, of 27th April 1907, "he left a widow and nine children, only two being old enough to work" does anyone know any more about what happened to the family. That is all for now Kind regards George N Henderson Invercargill New Zealand

Hi Gang, With the Gathering only a few weeks away now.....here is an update for all who are attending :o) All events are as previously posted, and I will send a final schedule of events to the list shortly for the benefit of our newest members, and will definitely and finally close the Attendance Lists on Sunday 10th June :o) Hazel and I are now working on 100 people for each of the 3 main events....the Civic Reception, the Gathering, and the Ceilidh. So lots of people for us all to meet up and blether with !!! :o) I will during June month personally contact everyone (via e.mail) who has already sent me their Attendance forms, to confirm all details and get a postal address etc. Tickets for the Civic Reception on Friday 10th August ---------------------------------------------------------------- Will be posted out in early July, I understand some folks are starting out on their trips from mid July onwards, so this will ensure they have them before they leave. Tickets for the Ceilidh --------------------------- Will be available to be purchased at the Gathering at the Marryat Hall between 10.00 am and 12 noon when we are setting up our Family Displays, your name will be listed to make sure you don't miss getting your tickets. I reckon this is probably the best set-up in this instance, else we can end up in all sorts of problems with various currencies and bank drafts etc if we try to collect Ceilidh Ticket monies beforehand. I'm looking for 1 or 2 people used to handling and counting UK cash to help with this, please contact me direct if you can volunteer to help man the Ceilidh Ticket Desk. Hazel (of the Kirkmichael Petrie's) & her husband Dave are very kindly organising the Ceilidh for us and playing host on the night at their farm at South Littleton, Rattray. We had a chat on the phone today and all plans are in place. Ticket price should be finalised over the next couple of weeks. Should anyone prefer to leave the car and take group transport to and from the Ceilidh on the evening of Saturday 11th I have booked a coach to be available in Dundee City Centre (7 pm pick up at Albert Museum) to take folks to the Ceilidh at South Littleton, Rattray and return at midnight to Dundee, with a door to door drop off (within Dundee) on the return journey. The price on a 30 seater coach provided all seats are taken works out at £4.00 per person for the return journey.... and more coaches are available should we need them. I suspect the journey home on the bus might take a while with folks getting dropped off at their hotels etc. But you can also look on it as a late night tour of Dundee..... !!! :o) Bus tickets for those who pre-book, will also be available to be purchased at the Gathering at the same desk as the Ceilidh tickets. I will enquire whether you wish to book tickets for the bus when I contact you to confirm your attendance details & postal address etc. As I mentioned previously in my mail to Jim Petrie.... I have been in touch with the organisers of the Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie Exhibition which is being held until September 2001 at the Burrell Collection in Glasgow, and they have asked if we would be interested in doing a joint press release on the Gathering and the Exhibition...I have of course said yes, so we may hit the National Newspapers yet !!! :o) Smaller numbers are participating in the trip to SRO & the Military Tattoo on Monday 13th.... so we have manageable numbers to organise a convoy drive through from Dundee, or some might prefer to take the train, or alternatively head for Edinburgh on the Sunday, and meet us there on the Monday. You also have an option of a full day at Scottish Records Office (New Register House) 9.00 am - 4.30 pm or a 1pm - 4.30 pm session. We can then perhaps meet up for an evening meal in a nice place in the City Centre (suggestions of where to go... most welcome) before we say our Goodbye's and finish our evening at the Military Tattoo. I will discuss these options soon with those who have indicated to me that they plan to attend the SRO & Tattoo events on Monday 13th. Anyone not able to attend the Gathering but wishing to send on their family tree's, photographs, family memento's etc. Can send photocopies (don't want to be responsible for original documents !! :o) on to me, and we shall be pleased to display them at the Gathering.....you'll get my postal address in our Petrie-Scotland Website...just click on my name in the member list. Counting the days ...... !!! :o) For the noo Norma

Hi Ivor, We were interested in your message about the descendants of William Petrie at Kettle. I cannot make any direct connection, but in the course of our research we have been looking at Collessie Parish and adjoining parishes, and like you have found some unusual spellings. The Collessie Parish was the worst. Our Petries come from Robert Petrie who was married Christian Scott at Collessie in 1763 under the name of Patrie. We extracted the other unusual spellings for Petrie and submitted a list of those we found on the Web page. Looking at our list of Parishes in Fife, Kettle is an adjoining parish so it is possible that they moved in that direction. In our list there is a William Peathrie s/o James born on 9/12/1766 at Collessie, and a James Peathrie s/o Walter Peathrie born on 12/7/1731 also at Collessie. The parish records for Collessie does not name the mothers. We are currently orphans in the Petrie families, and as we cannot as yet find a birth for Robert and no other Petries seem to be descended from our Robert and Christian we are not making much progress. If we could prove a relationship with another member of the group it would be great. By the way we are in sunny Sydney Australia, and our Petrie ancestor, George Septimus, son of James and grandson of Robert migrated to Melbourne in 1853. All the best, Trissia Waddingham ----- Original Message ----- From: Ivor Normand <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 31 May, 2001 4:21 Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] PETRIEs of Kettle parish, Fife > Dear fellow PETRIE researchers, > > I'm new to your list this week, and would like to know if anyone has researched Fife connections. William PETRIE had the following children baptised, all in Kettle parish and all recorded as PEDRIE (and indexed thus in the IGI). > > By Janet BUCK (m. 2 Apr 1790, Kettle): > Born Baptised Died (Age) Married > James 8 Apr 1791 10 Apr 1791 16 Mar 1886 (94), Kettle 1815: Mary WALLACE > William 2 Jul 1793 4 Jul 1793 [1851+] 1821: Janet SMART > David 6 Apr 1795 12 Apr 1795 [in infancy] > Andrew 5 Apr 1796 10 Apr 1796 1 Jan 1865 (68), Kettle Helen BIRRELL > John 2 Sep 1798 14 Sep 1798 [1851+] [unknown] > David 7 Sep 1804 9 Sep 1804 16 Apr 1870 (65), Kettle 1831: Helen DALRYMPLE > > By Margaret WILKIE (marriage not found): > Janet 1810? (not found) 10 Feb 1895 (84), Kettle 1834: Andrew MILLAR > George 8 Dec 1812 18 Jan 1813 28 Mar 1891 (78), Kettle 1853: Annie STEWART > Robert 24 Sep 1814 25 Sep 1814 15 Feb 1895 (80), Kettle 1843: Mary BUIST > Matthew 1 Jun 1816 2 Jun 1816 29 Oct 1869 (53), Kettle 1842: Jean RAMSAY > (bapt. "Mathie") > > George PETRIE (1812-91) and Annie STEWART (1824-75) are my 3x great-grandparents. Their descendants occupy more than three pages of Family Tree Maker "Outline Descendant Chart" print-out (81 lines per page), with currently 1.5 pages on the descendants of George's sister and (half-)brothers. It's two years since I last gave close attention to my PETRIE line, but I'm now keen to return to it and open it up a lot further, especially with the approaching August gathering. > > I'll look forward to any responses. Best wishes to all, > Ivor Normand > (Edinburgh) > > ______________________________

Hello Murray, Very interested to read your mail re. the Kennethmont Petrie's. The William Petrie you mention is my wife, Rosemary's, 3rd g-grandfather. Her line of descent came via Ann Robertson. Her line continues via Andrew then Samuel to her grandfather John. Like yourself, we also believe in the high probability of the various Petrie sections being connected. One factor which makes us believe this, is that no Petrie's seemed to be in Kennethmont prior to this William's father. This would imply that ancestry stems from outwith Kennethmont. Thenceforth, for about a hundred years, all Petrie's in this area could be directly linked to William. Samuel (mentioned earlier) seemed to live and work in the Drumblade, Forgue area for much of his later life. At that time a contingent of Petrie's seemed to be centred in and around Huntly. Because of the close geographical proximity it is hard to believe that they were not somehow related. We are afraid that we have not furthered your theory re. the various groups, but at least you can now number your known descendant groups as four. Regards, George and Rosemary

Hello Murray, My father's name was James Arnold Petrie and he was born in Arbroath in 1919. He also had a cousin Arnold Petrie in New Zealand who was killed in the First World War. Arnold must be a family name. I'd love an image of the gravestone. I don't know much about the family yet but am excited to research more. Thanks,Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare & Murray Nicoll" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 11:01 PM Subject: [Petrie-Scotland] ARNOLD PETRIE > Hi Carole > > Over the weekend of 26 - 27 May, I, along with other members of the Tay > Valley Family History Society were graveyarding the Barry Graveyard. Norma > was there also. > > I am in the process of typing the gravestones of all PETRIES found there > and have just finished the gravestone of the grandparents of ARNOLD J > PETRIE He also gets a mention. I have still to check the typing against > the stone, but I can do this Wednesday 31 May. Do you want a digital image > of the stone ?? > > Murray Nicoll > > > ==== PETRIE-SCOTLAND Mailing List ==== > Checkout the Petrie Querie Board & Petrie Resource Page on the WWW > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/pet/Petrie >

Hi gang. Here are 10 PETRIEs that were collected in Barry graveyard over this weekend. I also found the two Dundee Western Cemetery ones in old tapes. WESTERN CEMETERY, DUNDEE. Sacred to the memory of HELEN PETRIE wife of WILLIAM SHAW merchant Dundee who died 11 June 1850 aged 55 years also to the above WILLIAM SHAW who died 21 September 1866 in the 80 year of his age also of their daughters HELEN CATHERINE who died 20 February 1887 and MARGARET PETRIE who died 4 March 1889 and of their sons WILLIAM PETRIE who died 23 February 1897 aged 74 JAMES PARKER who died 26 November 1901 aged 83 erected by JAMES P SHAW in memory of his children HENRY who died 20 February 1850 aged 2 years and 9 months HELEN who died 14 October 1850 aged 17 months MARGARET born 10 August 1855 died 4 May 1860 WILLIAM lost at sea 1 March 1873 in his 20 year also his grandson JOHNNIE ARNOLD died 11 March 1887 aged 7 years and of his wife JEMIMA HENDERSON died 25 January 1900 aged 80 years WALTER 4 August 1905 aged 84 ELIZABETH SHAW the tape also demised here Erected by JOHN HUNTER in memory of his wife ELIZABETH PETRIE who died 26 September 1875 aged 33 years also of his children MARGARET who died 5 December 1875 aged 1 year WILLIAM who died in Chalmers Hospital Edinburgh 14 October 1888 in his 17 year Alexander died 24 March 1893 aged 20 years DAVID died 17 July 1895 aged 25 years ALFRED WILLIAM SIMMERS died 11 December 1896 aged 4 years and 7 months also his daughter HELEN ROBERTSON died at Durban south Africa 15 January 1908 aged 27 years JOSEPH STEWART husband of GRACE HUNTER daughter of the above died 23 March 1908 aged 31 years BARRY GRAVEYARD. Erected by the widow and family in loving memory of JAMES PETRIE who died 19 December 1912 a 67 years also RENALD L B PETRIE widow of the above who died 1 August 1917 at Brooklyn USA aged 75 years Erected by JOHN PETRIE in Cotton of New Downie and MARY PETRIE his spouse in memory of their daughters ISOBEL and MARY ISOBEL died the 20 March 1830 in the 10 year of her age MARY the 17 April 1830 in the 7 year of her age JAMES the 12 July 1843 aged 35 years the above MARY PETRIE died 18 November 1853 aged 69 years the above JOHN PETRIE died 14 June 1859 aged 75 years their daughter JANE PETRIE wife of GEORGE BLACK died 29 March 1899 in her 81 year Reverse also the children of GEORGE BLACK and JANE PETRIE GEORGE BLACK died 1860 aged 11 years MARGARET LOWSON BLACK died 1865 aged 7 years the above GEORGE BLACK died 9 August 1912 in his 87 year also his son JOHN BLACK died 27 September 1921 in his 67 year MARY TOCHER MIDDLETON wife of the above JOHN BLACK died 30 December 1838 in her 81 year In affectionate remembrance of JAMES LOWSON ship master Carnoustie who died 5 March 1871 aged 70 years MARGARET PETRIE his wife who died 16 September 1857 aged 52 years MAGGIE who died 15 November 1879 MARJORY ISLES SPENCE wife of JOHN LOWSON who died 25 March 1879 and who lies interred here also of JAMES who was lost at sea 1848 and HENRY PORAZ husband of BARBARA LOWSON who died at Rangoon 29 October 1877 BARBARA PORAZ died 2 November 1907 Erected by HELLEN PETRIE in memory of her husband GEORGE ANDERSON late weaver in Arbroath who died the 8 January 1818 aged 69 years also of their daughter AMELIA who died the 28 June 1804 aged 17 years both of whom are interred here HELLEN PETRIE died 21 March 1821 aged 70 years and is also interred here In affectionate remembrance of JOHN GRAY Garnet Bank Carnoustie who died there on 4 November 1892 in the 80 year of his age and is interred here and JESSIE PETRIE his widow who died 4 April 1898 in the 84 year of her age and of their children after named viz JEAN born 13 April 1839 died 5 August 1842 and is interred in Howff Burying Ground Dundee GEORGE born 28 May 1853 died 16 September 1859 JOHN born 13 September 1841 died 19 April 1875 DAVID born 9 January 1844 died 1 March 1876 JAMES born 12 April 1846 died 3 July 1884 WILLIAM born 24 September 1848 died 22 June 1890 and are all interred in Sighthill Cemetery Glasgow JESSIE GRAY died 31 August 1928 CATHERINE GRAY died 13 November 1932 and are interred here PATRICK or PETER GRAY died 1 April 1933 interred in Western Cemetery Dundee Erected by ALEXANDER PETRIE late ship master Arbroath in memory of his wife ANN FOX who died at Carnoustie 13 June 1879 aged 57 years the above ALEXANDER PETRIE died on the 23 April 1895 in his 70 year 2Lieut ARNOLD J PETRIE New Zealand Expeditionary Force died of wounds in France 18 April 1918 aged 24 years grandson of the above also ANN H PETRIE daughter of the above ALEXANDER PETRIE died 7 October 1926 aged 76 years Very flaked stone. This is all that remains of the inscription Marker in Barrey...PETRIE his spouse in memory of their son WILLIAM ...was born February the 11 ... year ... who died December 10 1776 Reverse WILLIAM ...ATT and HELLEN PETRIE Erected to the memory of ROBERT PATON late shoemaker in Carnoustie who died on the 13 November 1829 aged 56 years also of his grandchild HELEN PATON who died the 24 June 1830 in the 3 year of her age also of his grandchild ROBERT PATON who died the 19 February 1836 in the 6 year of his age also of his spouse HELEN MILLN who died the 28 March 1839 in the 64 year of her age also his daughter in law BARBARA PETRIE wife of CHARLES PATON who died 29 April 1857 aged 59 years also of his son CHARLES PATON who died 21 May 1875 aged 72 years also THOMAS BLACK son in law of the above CHARLES PATON who died 18 August 1901 aged 74 years BARBARA PATON wife of the above THOMAS BLACK who died 11 February 1910 aged 80 years 1857 BARBARA PETRIE Erected by MARGARET ROBERTSON in memory of her husband ROBERT PETRIE who died the 3 December 1807 in the 55 year of his age also of their son DAVID who died the 22 December 1834 in the 40 year of his age MARGARE ROBERTSON died 1 March 1839 in the 79 year of her age BETSY RAMSAY wife of SAMUEL PETRIE died 9 October 1872 in the 69 year of her age SAMUEL PETRIE died on the 13 August 1873 aged 75 years

Dear fellow PETRIE researchers, I'm new to your list this week, and would like to know if anyone has researched Fife connections. William PETRIE had the following children baptised, all in Kettle parish and all recorded as PEDRIE (and indexed thus in the IGI). By Janet BUCK (m. 2 Apr 1790, Kettle): Born Baptised Died (Age) Married James 8 Apr 1791 10 Apr 1791 16 Mar 1886 (94), Kettle 1815: Mary WALLACE William 2 Jul 1793 4 Jul 1793 [1851+] 1821: Janet SMART David 6 Apr 1795 12 Apr 1795 [in infancy] Andrew 5 Apr 1796 10 Apr 1796 1 Jan 1865 (68), Kettle Helen BIRRELL John 2 Sep 1798 14 Sep 1798 [1851+] [unknown] David 7 Sep 1804 9 Sep 1804 16 Apr 1870 (65), Kettle 1831: Helen DALRYMPLE By Margaret WILKIE (marriage not found): Janet 1810? (not found) 10 Feb 1895 (84), Kettle 1834: Andrew MILLAR George 8 Dec 1812 18 Jan 1813 28 Mar 1891 (78), Kettle 1853: Annie STEWART Robert 24 Sep 1814 25 Sep 1814 15 Feb 1895 (80), Kettle 1843: Mary BUIST Matthew 1 Jun 1816 2 Jun 1816 29 Oct 1869 (53), Kettle 1842: Jean RAMSAY (bapt. "Mathie") George PETRIE (1812-91) and Annie STEWART (1824-75) are my 3x great-grandparents. Their descendants occupy more than three pages of Family Tree Maker "Outline Descendant Chart" print-out (81 lines per page), with currently 1.5 pages on the descendants of George's sister and (half-)brothers. It's two years since I last gave close attention to my PETRIE line, but I'm now keen to return to it and open it up a lot further, especially with the approaching August gathering. I'll look forward to any responses. Best wishes to all, Ivor Normand (Edinburgh)