Thanks to all of you who replied with helpful information about my previous query. I will try to reach each of you individually where possible. What I failed to state was that I had already traced my ancestors on the 1841 Census but failed with the next ones and they don't appear in the 1881 Census. I also failed to mention that the Parish was Auchterarder. Gregg Morrison in Sydney Australia. This email has been checked by Norton Anti-Virus Software and does not contain viruses. A smile a day, helps you on your way...