Dear Gavin, I very much appreciate all the information you have forwarded to me It is going to take me time to 'git mae heid roond it' but boy it does give me a way forward or is that backwards. What I need to find is my William's father George Grahame living somewhere in the Parish of Auchtergaven. I have a very stubborn streak, and if I take after my grgrgrgrandfather then he would have definitely gone, when he was old enough, to seek out his biological father. I have always felt that his father brought his illegitimate family from outside the East Lothian area to have them christened. What time frame is your James Graham that had an adulterous affair? My George has died by 1845 according to the marriage of his ill daughter... daughter of the Late George Graham I will mull over all the other information you kindly sent me off line I really need to look at the marriage cert for William Graham and Elizabeth Robertson in Auchtergaven 1843. from family oral history a lot is making sense since I read your information Sheena PS I too was born many moons ago in Edinburgh, married and live in Broughty Ferry.