Hi Mary: This is great information. My brain is not functioning at this time, but I will certainly spend time with it tomorrow evening. Thank you for sending all this information. I will be back in touch tomorrow. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: <BRUINSWOOD@aol.com> To: <perthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] Grange of Elcho and Grange Cottage, Rhynd > found my scots dictionary. grange is a barb=n or granery, the granery of a > religious house. gra > > > In a message dated 11/1/2010 6:07:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > BRUINSWOOD@aol.com writes: > > Brenda, > > I have some new photos of Rhynd, pronounced rind not rynd.... my kids > love > > elcho castle, as it's empty, and great for hide and seek. My family lived > next door and kept the castle keys. I'll check SCRAN for Grande cottage > or > farm on SCRAN, which has lots of old photos, also look at RCAHMS (royal > commission on ancient and historical monuments of Scotland, which has > old > photos and text from books, drawings, and photos of places now gone or > still > available. I search online as many places are now B and B. If you find > one > close, you can write the owners, or church folks who often help out with > a > villages history, or taking a photo. I have a professional who drives to > locations for me. Multimap and UK streetmap, both Internet mapping > programs > which you can zoom in to see farm names. > > I have an old repro map (Ordnance map) around 1850, which are only a > couple > pounds and show farm names. RHYND church has been converted to housing, so > no hope there but St. Madoes, and Glencarse might help. St. Madoes is > pronounced Semmidoes, as one word. Locals tease me about my accent, and > told me > how to pronounce. Scots are very picky, and consider it an insult if > you > say names incorrectly. But they are very generous helping with history, > they are very proud of their history. > > I'll write back if I find something. I have subscriptions to SCRAN, > deceased online and ancestry. You can search SCRAN by village, surname, > trade or > subject without a subscription, but you won't see the text, and place > who > has the original, and will see only thumbnails. It connects museums and > archives, for scottish school teachers, so the photos are priceless and a > great > cause. > > The two photo books on the Carse of Gowrie, include many villages, but > not > > Rhynd. There are no doubt old photos, you just need to find them. > Wellgate > > Library (central branch in Dundee public library) which might have some, > and they'll do research for a reasonable fee. below is a great man in > their > history dept. > > ain Flett > _iain.flett@dundeecity.gov.uk_ (mailto:iain.flett@dundeecity.gov.uk) > > hope some of this helps, > > Mary in Oregon > > > In a message dated 11/1/2010 6:03:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > b-g.anderson@sympatico.ca writes: > > I am researching my McPherson family from the Rhynd area and have found > both these addresses on the Census for them. I am trying to figure out > what > the Grange part means. I can find Elcho Castle, but where would the > grange > be in location to the castle. Does it mean a house, a farmhouse, and > small group of cottages. I am assuming that the Grange cottage would > just be > a cottage, but what would it be connected to - a farm, or just in the > town. > > He was an agricultural labourer on both Census. Living in Canada, > sometimes it's hard to get a sense of what these things are. 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