Thanks you Shelia!!!! I did some searches for the possible Dewar connection, and I think you hit the nail on the head!!! I found that connection in a round a bout way. Since I'd found who would seem to be Helen (Drummond) Todd's Brother Alexander Drummond on the 1841 census near her, I searched for him on the 1851 census. I did download one which was wrong. Then the next one I hit paydirt!! First off Alexander Drummond was shown as a basket maker on the 1851 census. His Father showed as a basket maker on the 1841 census. For this census Alexander Drummond was I believe with a family by names of Alexander and Mary Dewar and thier Daughter. Would seem the Dewar's was likely an Uncle of his, since his Mother's maiden name would seem could be Dewar (although shown as Dyet and Dyer on some records). Alexander Dewar was a cotton weaver and his Daughter a carter. Alexander Drummond's wife and 2 children are with him, but are on the next page of the census which I opted to download to confirm he was the right one. OK, and then on the second page also was another Brother of Helen's and Alexander's. This is James Drummond and his family who are lodging with a Williamson family. James and one of his Sons are also basket makers. Haven't yet found a marriage record for an Alexander Drummond and a Helen Dewar (or Dyet or Dyer), nor a birth record for either. I did take a look at the Clan MacGregor or Gregor website, and found information on Clan chiefs. Seems in 1714 there was an Alexander Drummond (MacGregor) who had become clan chief. His Son William became Chief in 1743. William's Son Alexander who was born in 1758 succeeded his Father in 1865 (7 years old??). Apparently Alexander was ousted as Chief while serving with the military in the West Indies. This Alexander apparently took it to court as to who should be chief and lost in 1795. It appears there were a lot of Alexander Drummonds, but the timing would seem to almost fit the one I'm researching. It seems he didn't have his first child until 1796, and could account for a late marriage. Just thinking out loud. Thanks again for the tip for the name Dewar!! Tom McMillan (Washougal, WA) Could Dyer also be Dewar? Sheila When replying to a message or a digest, please delete everything except the portion to which you are replying. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________ Refinance Rates at 2.8% $160,000 Mortgage $434/mo. No Hidden Fees- 3.1% APR! Get a Free Quote http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d0ed1d9165b57d28dcst03vuc