Hi Tom A transcript of the 1851 census has Ellen TODD age 51 born in Airdrie, Lanarkshire. I think Airdrie is in the New Monkland Parish but I'm not sure how close to the boundary with Old Monkland. The 1801 Christening in Old Monkland for Helen DRUMMOND, father Alexander, mother Helen DIET does seem a strong possibility particularly as a birth and a christening are two different events and can take place in different locations. The OPR's relate to the Established Church of Scotland so if the family wasn't C of S or the baptism wasn't recorded then, apart from the Catholic Parish Registers which are in a different section, it wouldn't be on Scotlandspeople. Cape of Good Hope is South Africa. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "TWMc" <tomwdcraftr@juno.com> To: <perthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] Ellen nee MacGregor and/or Drummond > Hi All > I purchased some credits at Scotland's People and did some searches and > downloaded some records. > I downloaded the 1851 census which appeared could be my family. I think it > could be, but some of the info would appear wrong. > Although the transcription was Mathan Todd, it does appear written as > Mathew Todd, and his age is close. I think what showed as Andrew, may have > been spelled Andrsn, which could be my Anderson Todd, and again the age is > very close. The ages of Mathew, John, Anderson, Ellen, and Ellen seem > close to my family's ages. > There is also a Robert Todd age 55, and a James Todd age 23 (both show as > married, but apparently no wives present). I believe my Mathew had a > brother Robert close to that age. The birth for Robert though on the > census shows as: "Cape of Good Hope". Would that be near Africa?? I have a > record that Mathew's brother Robert was born in Morpeth, Northumberland, > England. I guess it could be a different relation of Mathew's, or the > birth loc could simply be wrong? I can't really make out Mathew's > birthplace too well, on this census. It doesn't seem to be where I show he > was born which was Warkworth, Northumberland, England. > My Ellen shows as 51 years of age in 1851, which would seem consistent > with the other birth dates I've found for her. It appears it says her > birth was Lanark, but can't make it all out. I'd be glad to send the PDF > file for this, if someone could help me interpret it? > I also downloaded PDF files for 2 birth records for a Helen Drummond. One > was born in 1801 in Old Monkland, and one in 1804 in Edinburgh. Then, I > did find a Helen McGregor born in Killen, Perth in 1803 to a John and > Helen McGregor. There were several other Helen McGregor/MacGregor's I > haven't downloaded yet, in the 1798 to 1804 period. > I thought the one born to a John and Helen could make sense, since they > named their second Son John. However, I believe Mathew also had a Brother > named John, so??? > So far, I haven't found any indication of a marriage record for Mathew > Todd and a Helen McGregor/Drummond. Perhaps, I need to search in England > also, or perhaps they did a "common law" type marriage where there would > be no record?? > I could email the PDF files I downloaded, if someone could help me > interpret the locations. > Thanks so much!! > Tom McMillan (Washougal, WA)