List, George and Col, Very much looking forward to seeing any and all Rent Rolls for Ochtertyre, to home in on any of my McCALLUM family who may have been there. Some of my lines and other (likely related) McCallum lines were in the Glenturret/Hosh area for years, including one or two at the distillery, with others later at Wester Fendoch, Greenfield, Foulford and other locations mid C19. My lot went to the Glenturret & Crieff area around 1800, before which they were in Glenquaich. Rob Maxtone-Graham - reads this list occasionally I think - was a great help in showing me the big picture of McCALLUMs on Lochtayside and I'm still taking it from there. I had plenty of detail on them, but no overview. For the record: these people got about. Whichever parish Glenturret belonged to, I have found my family's records and burial places in various parishes: Crieff, Fowlis Wester, Monzie, Weem, Dull, Logierait, Methven, and the rest. I was also interested to note the story of the couple that were whisked away to Sutherland for no apparent reason. In 1802, my 3x great grandmother Janet McCallum from Glenquaich 1877 married (2nd/cousin?) James McCallum at Monzie and they farmed in Ross-shire. I might never have believed that this was my couple, had the minister not been obliging enough to record that James was from Ross-shire while Janet was OTP in Monzie. They raised their children near Dingwall and gave Amulree and Breadalbane as their place of birth. In 1841, their son, my 2x great grandfather Duncan McCallum born 1810 Ross-shire was found with his auntie back in Wester Fendoch and somewhere in Crieff in 1851. Cattle dealers. But then he married a lassie from Lochussie in Ross-shire and whisked her off to Sutherland as well! Fair enough, these people were farmers and cattle dealers, so unsurprising that they were mobile - but I did wonder what took them to such unlikely spots as Conon Bridge near Dingwall - and Melvich in Sutherland, on the coast about as far north as you can go on mainland Scotland... Until I read Haldane's Drove Roads of Scotland and realised that all these places, and Amulree might seem obscure to me here in the low and wetlands of Mainland Europe - but they are the all-important junctions and tryst points on the drove roads! Looking at the map, I realize that Lairg in Sutherland where your couple went falls in this category too.... On the through road from the north and west. Your relations may not have been cattle people, but since everything had to pass these points, there are no end of reasons why they might have gone there from Perthshire to find employment of some sort. Just a few thoughts, Katie de Haan The Netherlands -----Original Message----- From: perthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:perthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of CaledonC@aol.com Sent: maandag 20 september 2010 7:47 To: perthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] Location of Glenturret Somewhat belated response to George regarding Glenturret ! The area known as Glenturret lies in the Parish of Monzievaird and Strowan ( pronounced mony –vaird ) which is to the north and west of Crieff Parish . Loch Turret and the Glen lay in the lands on the Murrays of Ochtertyre . I have just transcribed the Rent Roll of the Estate for the 1865 which I intend posting on my web site shortly . Glenturret comprised a number of small farms and latterly was given over to sheep . Farms included the Hosh , Ballochalloch , House of Burn and on the periphery the Quoigs ( pronounced Quiggs !! ) The Turret Burn flows from Loch Turret down through what is MacRosty Park in Crieff and joins the Earn at Lady Mary’s Walk . The Turret distillery ( now the Famous Grouse Experience ) claims to be the oldest distillery in Scotland . The Loch provided Crieff with its water courtesy of the Murrays for generations and the Murray Fountain in James Square Crieff was erected as a token of thanks to the family . The Loch was dammed in the 1950s and a number of habitations disappeared particularly the shooting lodge of Rhuad Mhor . My latest book , Crieff and Strathearn Through Time has a picture of ! the Loch now and then on the front cover and can be viewed on _http://caledonianconnections.com/CrieffandStrathearnThroughTime.aspx_ (http://caledonianconnections.com/CrieffandStrathearnThroughTime.aspx) . It shows Burn’s Rock where Rabbie composed a poem on the bird life of Glenturret . The birds being water fowl and not the two legged version with which he was usually associated ! Col frae Crieff ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message