I very much appreciate the help this group has offered me!! I think my search may be a somewhat complicated one, but always appreciate the help and advice of the group!! My closest Drummond ancestor was born as Helen Drummond in 1800 in Old Monkland, Lanarkshire, and died Ellen (Drummond) Todd in 1863 in Fergus, Wellington County, Ontario. Her birth record indicates born to Alexander Drummond and Helen Diet. (Note: I've seen other birth records for who may be the same couple and Helen's name varies from Diet, to Dyet, Dyatt, and Dyer. I wonder also, if Dewar might be an option??). Appreciate any knowledge if these might sound similar with the Scottish accent?? Our family (and I've found others descended from Ellen/Helen) indicated that her maiden name was "MacGregor or McGregor". However, on her Daughter's marriage record to my Great Grandfather William John McMillan in Canada, it indicated the maiden name of "Drummond". I have come to an understanding of the "proscription" in effect in Scotland from the early 1600's until 1774, which outlawed (by penalty of death) the name MacGregor/McGregor in Scotland. I have thought that might be the reason for using the name "Drummond", as I've learned many took on that name? I appreciate all the help offered here to try to help me to connect to the MacGregor/McGregor name!!! If there is such a connection, I'm still in the hopes of finding it. I have found that the Drummond family I seem to descend from was likely a "Traveller" family. They've shown as "basket makers, Chapman pedlars, licensed hawkers or halkers, Stomeware merchants, and such" on census records, death and birth records. It's also been mostly impossible to find any "marriage" records for most of these ancestors. The reason for that might be that they seemed to have marriage ceremonies within their own travelling groups, which were likely not formally recorded marriages?? Now, I have come into contact with indivicuals who I believe tie into the Drummond family line going back to my Helen/Ellen (Drummond) Todd. They apparently descend from Helen/Ellen's Brother who was an Alexander Todd born in 1803 in Girthon, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland. So far, the persons I've been in contact with have no knowledge about a "MacGreogor/Drummond" connection, so hard to know if one exists or not??? Now, I'm hoping to try to figure out the connection to "Perthshire". A friend in Ontario gave me information for my GG Grandmtoher's grave from Belsyde Cemetery in Fergus, Ontario. He said it indicates Ellen, wife of Matthew Todd, died November 30, 1863, 63 years old, from Perthshire, Scotland. Unfortunately, her maiden ame isn't indicated on the headstone but she was born Helen Drummond. I believe Matthew and Helen/Ellen Todd likely had one or two children in Perthshire, and it seems it may have been Perthshire they left about 1855 when they likely immigrated to Canada. Perhaps, Perthshire was thier base, as I believe this Todd family were also "travellers" selling their wares in Scotland. Matthew was a horse dealer and farrier in Ontario. One of his Sons became a very successful and lucrative businessman in the US having owned flour mills, mining interests, and property. Interestingly, his name was Robert McGregor Todd. Robert's younger Brother was John Drummond Todd, and was a plasterer in Canada later moving to Michigan, and was a lay minister. Robert & John would have been my G Grandmtoher Anderson (Todd) McMillan's Brothers. Now, I'm seeing that others related to Helen/Ellen were born in Perthshire, Scotland. A lot of these were Alexander Drummonds. This seemed to be a home for a lot of this Drummond family probably up to the 1950's and later perhaps. Look forward to any information. Thanks so much!! Tom McMillan (Washougal, WA) ____________________________________________________________ $65/Hr Job - 25 Openings Part-Time job ($20-$65/hr). Requirements: Home Internet Access http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d58373ee838936f399st02vuc