Does anyone know if there is a way to find information on those in the Perthshire Militias. I have a fourth great grandfather who was in the Militia in 1790's and was married at Holy Rude Church at Stirling. His name was John Shewster and he married an Isabella Beanstone or Benston. I have not been able to find any muster rolls. Any help would be appreciated. Kaye

Mary wrote... Have you looked for your family on the Ontario cemetery guide (which allows you to search for graves by surname and county and township? Or the Historical atlas', as every county has at least one. These books have bios in front and maps in back, with names on the owners name at the time of publishing. ---- Adding to Mary's post - useful sites for Scots to Ontario (hopefully not too much off subject) There are two cemetery databases: The Ontario Genealogical Society - http://www.ogs.on.ca/services/indexes.php The Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid - http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/ The new LDS Pilot site has covered much with regard to Canada and it continues to grow... http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=allCollections&r=0 My personal favorite, local histories..... http://www.ourroots.ca/ HTH Someone....... Sherry

Ian, Have you looked for your family on the Ontario cemetery guide (which allows you to search for graves by surname and county and township? Or the Historical atlas', as every county has at least one. These books have bios in front and maps in back, with names on the owners name at the time of publishing. Searching by genweb, one per state or province, then one each for each county. I transcribed all the bios for the 1906 atlas for wellington county _http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~onwellin/_ (http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~onwellin/) , and it appears ancestry is posting them on ancestry.ca (for canada) You can get from one genweb to another, and links to the place where you can search for graves or bios. McGill university has built a search engine for all the atlas' and all the maps. Mary in Oregon the bios usually list the place where oldest pioneer came from, all their issue and their marriages are included. They sold them, so people paid to get into the atlas', but then the family wrote the bio. my family didn't have the money to put in a bio. Some atlas' had photos with signature. In a message dated 5/7/2010 5:16:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, iwhite99@yahoo.com writes: In 1820 Peter CRAM left the Comrie area of Perthshire and sailed on the ship Benlomond from Greenock for the port of Quebec City, Canada. He was accompanied by his wife Janet KEY, five sons and three daughters. They were going to join another son, John CRAM and his family who had made the journey two years earlier and settled in Beckwith Township, Lanark County, Upper Canada (now called Ontario). Their son James CRAM (1799-1885) was granted land in Beckwith at Concession 11, lot 20 NE. He married Janet McPHAIL (1807-1874) in 1830, and they had six sons and three daughters in Lanark County, Ontario. Their son Isaac CRAM(1844-1923) married Martha Mary MOFFATT (1849-1921) at Carleton Place, Ontario, in 1868; this partnership producing eight sons and two daughters, still in Lanark County. One of their sons, William Moffatt CRAM (1869-1923) married a Joanna. They lived in Beckwith for some time before moving to Vermont, USA.. They had three daughters and a son Donald James CRAM who was born in Chester, Vermont in 1919. Donald lived his entire life in the USA., and in 1987 he was awarded the Nobel Prize in Chemistry. He passed away in 2001. In summary, there is a large number of people from Lanark County, Ontario, and from Perthshire, Scotland who have this brilliant scientist on their family tree. Ian White Member: British Isles Family History Society of Greater Ottawa, Canada. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In 1820 Peter CRAM left the Comrie area of Perthshire and sailed on the ship Benlomond from Greenock for the port of Quebec City, Canada. He was accompanied by his wife Janet KEY, five sons and three daughters. They were going to join another son, John CRAM and his family who had made the journey two years earlier and settled in Beckwith Township, Lanark County, Upper Canada (now called Ontario). Their son James CRAM (1799-1885) was granted land in Beckwith at Concession 11, lot 20 NE. He married Janet McPHAIL (1807-1874) in 1830, and they had six sons and three daughters in Lanark County, Ontario. Their son Isaac CRAM(1844-1923) married Martha Mary MOFFATT (1849-1921) at Carleton Place, Ontario, in 1868; this partnership producing eight sons and two daughters, still in Lanark County. One of their sons, William Moffatt CRAM (1869-1923) married a Joanna. They lived in Beckwith for some time before moving to Vermont, USA.. They had three daughters and a son Donald James CRAM who was born in Chester, Vermont in 1919. Donald lived his entire life in the USA., and in 1987 he was awarded the Nobel Prize in Chemistry. He passed away in 2001. In summary, there is a large number of people from Lanark County, Ontario, and from Perthshire, Scotland who have this brilliant scientist on their family tree. Ian White Member: British Isles Family History Society of Greater Ottawa, Canada.

If anyone has a copy of the clock-maker book below, I would be grateful for a look-up. I'm looking for information on James Stewart, a clock-maker in Glasgow, who was apprenticing with James Leckie in 1778. James Stewart was probably born about 1755-60 in southern Perthshire. He is descended from a family of Stewarts who resided at Grodich, Glen Finglas, Callander, Perthshire in 17th-19th centuries. James belongs to the same family as Walter Frangich Stewart. "Frangich" is the Gaelic word for "French speaker", but it is also very close to a place name, Frenich, which is located on Loch Chen, just south of Loch Katrine, near Glen Finglas, where this family originates from. It's impossible to know if Walter was nicknamed "Frangich" because he spoke French or because he came from Frenich. James Stewart was listed as a clock-maker in Trongate, Glasgow in 1778-1779. There is a Robert Stewart, clock-maker in Trongate in 1841. They are likely father and son. Both of them are featured together in an article from a clock-making magazine from the 1980s. Unfortunately this article focuses on their clocks, not on their genealogy, and tells us nothing of their relationship to each other nor of their origins. Apparently James Stewart's clocks were quite prized. A grandfather clock made by James Stewart recently sold at auction for £8000! James Stewart may have had another son named Alan. James Stewart was also later named a Burgess and Guild Brother in Glasgow (date unknown). I'd be grateful for anyone who can check the clock-maker book to see if there is any reference to James Stewart above. Thanks Ryk Brown Stewarts of Balquhidder Research Group ----- Original Message ----- From: <BRUINSWOOD@aol.com> To: <perthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] PERTHSHIRE books > publisher: 2005.] At long last! This long awaited book details the > clockmakers, watchmakers, cabinet makers, dialmakers and suppliers who > were > involved in the horological trade. Records have been consulted from the > earliest > times to the 1881 Census. The names are aranged alphabetically- so much > easier! Some 280 good black and white photographs enhance the text. A > book I > can throughly recommend. Scotland has been neglected for years- and they > did > have some quite outstanding makers. [PENRITH, CUM, United Kingdom]

publisher: 2005.] At long last! This long awaited book details the clockmakers, watchmakers, cabinet makers, dialmakers and suppliers who were involved in the horological trade. Records have been consulted from the earliest times to the 1881 Census. The names are aranged alphabetically- so much easier! Some 280 good black and white photographs enhance the text. A book I can throughly recommend. Scotland has been neglected for years- and they did have some quite outstanding makers. [PENRITH, CUM, United Kingdom] ran into this while looking for new/old books on Scottish trades, thought perhaps it might help someone. on Add-all. Mary in Oregon thanks Pat for the great website. In a message dated 5/5/2010 2:50:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, patcarsonp@hotmail.com writes: If its photos of places in Britain, then you can't do better than this site http://www.geograph.org.uk/ Ant this will give you more about places in Scotland http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/ HTH Pat "Here's tae us! Wha's like us? Damn few! - an' they're a' deid!" Old Scots Toast -----Original Message----- From: perthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:perthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet MacDonald Sent: 05 May 2010 18:34 To: perthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] PERTHSHIRE [old photos of villages] I don't think you'll find any books on Perthshire place-names, but there have been some articles <[snip]> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For old photographs - Stenlake Publishers have a list of books relating to Perthshire. I have a couple of their books, one relating to Kinross and another to Lochgelly in fife. For Perthshire see: http://www.stenlake.co.uk/books/category.php?section=Perthshire For placenames I have a book called "The Ochils, Placenames, History and Tradition" by Angus Watson published in 1995 by Perth and Kinross District Libraries ( I ordered it from the library in Perth). Of course it only covers the south east of Perthshire. -- John Gibson Chalmers - john@chalmers-family.org Homepages ... http://chalmers-family.org/

Mary had asked for possible sites for Scottish Place names. Perhaps the following may be helpful: www.rampantscotland.com www.doomsdaymaps.com www.fife.50megs.com Wikipedia - Scottish Place Names in Canada www.australianscottishheritage.com For names in Highland Strathearn - Crieff to Lochearnhead see www.highlandstrathearn.com Regards Peter

If its photos of places in Britain, then you can't do better than this site http://www.geograph.org.uk/ Ant this will give you more about places in Scotland http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/ HTH Pat "Here's tae us! Wha's like us? Damn few! - an' they're a' deid!" Old Scots Toast -----Original Message----- From: perthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:perthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet MacDonald Sent: 05 May 2010 18:34 To: perthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] PERTHSHIRE [old photos of villages] I don't think you'll find any books on Perthshire place-names, but there have been some articles <[snip]>

I don't think you'll find any books on Perthshire place-names, but there have been some articles which you may be able to access in a library; see the bibliography page of the Scottish Place-name Society (scroll down to the section on regional studies) http://www.spns.org.uk/bibliography09.html Janet > I'm trying to find books about the placenames of Perthshire, but have > found > only a book on Aberdeenshire. > > Mary in Oregon

Janet, That link is a boom of information,so I'm writing to thank you and suggest it to others. I have copies of Ordnance maps but had no idea there was so much info to explain what's on them, Mary In a message dated 5/5/2010 10:35:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, glaschujan@yahoo.co.uk writes: http://www.spns.org.uk/bibliography09.html

I got great answers to my questions about rentals, on the Angus list and thought my fellow genealogy buddies on the Angus list might like the same information. I'm sorry if it fails to be of interest. Mary in Oregon BRUINSWOOD@aol.com wrote: > may i ask someone to define feuer, and crofter? A "feuar" (note usual spelling) was someone who (to all intents and purposes) owned a piece of land. The term originates in the feudal system. Technically (and until quite recently) all land was considered to belong to the Crown, and individuals were granted "feus" or parcels of land in exchange for sundry "services". Originally, these services would have been military in nature, but were long ago commuted for cash payments. The King would originally have "feued out" large areas of land to members of the nobility, and they, in turn, would have "sub-feued" smaller estates to regional lairds, and so on, until a single farm's worth - or a single house's worth - of land was feued to an individual. Because of the terminology used, you will often find that landowners - even landowners on a very modest scale - describe themselves as "feuars". "Crofters" on the other hand, were people who occupied a croft, for rent. > I have recently been told there were lowland clearances? > Is this true and when did they occur? what were > the lenghth and conditions/terms of rent? If you mean, were people forcibly ejected from their homes, to make way for sheep, then the answer is "no" - but mainly because in the Lowlands, the great majority of farms and crofts were held on short leases. Again and again in the "Statistical Accounts" (approximately 1790 and 1840) you read that the norm for a particular was for leases of 19 years. This meant that an "improving" landlord (which, in the Lowlands, probably meant someone interested in promoting high-intensity agriculture, rather than sheep-ranching) had only to wait until the current lease fell in, and he could then offer the land at a rent that was so much higher that the crofter could not afford it. Multiple crofts and farms could then be let as a single unit to a more modern and "high-tech" farmer who could pay the higher rent. The upshot was that large numbers of Lowlanders left the land and emigrated, either into the fast-growing cities of Scotland and the rest of the UK, or overseas, but without any of the more obvious cruelties which were practised at times in the Highlands. > If a renter added farm buildings, fences/walls, added mechanized machinery, > basically improving the farm, was the family rewarded by the owner in any > way? That would depend on the terms of the lease. But it was not unknown, for example, for the departing occupant of a croft to take with him as much as he could (for example the roof-timbers of the house) for re-use elsewhere (assuming he could find another croft). > > Milton of Ogil, Tannadice, Angus, was where one of mine lived. I've see > cottontown and millton or milltown before. Not "Cottontown". What you will have seen is "Cot-town" or "Cottar-town", a collection of cottages. A "cottar" was someone who rented less than a croft - generally a house with at most a bit of garden ground. Such places tended to be grouped together, and before mechanisation, were encouraged by landlords, since the occupants of the "cottar-houses" would be a source of seasonal labour (as would the crofters, few of whom could manage on the produce of the croft alone). "Milltown" or "Milton" is clearly a group of houses near a mill. > anyone know of a book or site that defines scottish cottage and farm names? If you are talking about prefixes like "Milton" or "Cotton" or suffixes like "Cottage", "Mill", "Moss" then it wouldn't take a very long book! There are a few more similar formations, such as "Kirkton" (whose origin is obvious) and "Hatton" which is the "ton" near the "hall" (or major house). Other sub-parts of placenames would be "North", "South" "Upper", "Lower" and a range of other standard terms which really need little explanation. If you are talking about the root placenames (like "Ogil" or "Tannadice") then there are likely to be many books attempting to account for their origins, each dealing with a particular geographical area. "The Placenames of Aberdeenshire", for example, fills a book of over 400 pages, and while I do not know of an equivalent for Angus, I would lay even money that there is one (or even more than one). Bear in mind, however, that the "root" placenames are generally of much greater antiquity than the prefixes and suffixes, and consequently there is likely to be greater degree of uncertainty (not to say speculation) in what can be said of their origins. It is probably true that most of these "root" names date from the times when the countryside was inhabited by speakers of Gaelic or Pictish, and have been handed down mainly by oral tradition. In the eastern Lowlands, however, most of them were not written down until the inhabitants had been speaking Scots for centuries, so many of them will have been mangled in transmission. Gavin Bell In a message dated 5/4/2010 6:30:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, BRUINSWOOD@aol.com writes: I searched add-all for old books on Errol, since a member of the angus list was interested in Errol. I had written her about two local history books on Errol and the Carse of Gowrie, and to my delight I found two little paperbacks on the villages along the carse, one east and one west. They include east Invergowrie, Kingoodie, Inchture and Kinnaird. west, includes Kinfauns, Glencarse, Errol and Rait. _http://used.addall.com/_ (http://used.addall.com/) I searched by keyword Carse of Gowrie, Perthshire or Errol, Perthshire. If anyone knows of other books on the area, I'd love to hear from you. I have the two written by Lawrence Melville in 1935, and was delighted to learn he's related to my Powries. I'm trying to find books about the placenames of Perthshire, but have found only a book on Aberdeenshire. Mary in Oregon In a message dated 3/16/2010 4:36:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, olsongayle@gmail.com writes: I have a ship question for you. My gggg grandparents, John (Ian) McMartin and Katherine Robertson were married on Valentines Day, 1798 in Weem, Perthshire and set sail for Canada shortly after that. One source said it was at the invitation of two of Katherine's brothers who were already in Canada. >From a distant cousin, I received this excerpt from a letter by Bert McMartin of Castalia, Iowa (brother to my great grandmother Elsie McMartin Kobriger and son of Daniel Angus McMartin who was grandson of John & Katherine) to his Aunt Gladys (Mrs. F.M. Pettygrove, Wilton ND dated 12 Dec 1925, when Bert was about 53: " As far as I know, in 1798 John (Ian) McMartin and his wife Katherine amd some other relatives left Scotland (they were Highlanders) for America. They were on the ocean for several months. The captain of the vessel went crazy and sailed back and forth on the ocean for months until they were almost out of provisions. When the first mate seized the captain and put him in restraints. The mate took charge of the vessel and steered for the nearest shore, which was Labrador. It then sailed on to the Bay of Chaleurs. They stayed there probably one or two years. From there they went to Huntington, Quebec outside of Montreal and then on to St. Andrew's East, Quebec on the River Rouge." In trying to hunt this down, I've found that lumber from Canada was a popular export from this area and era and that sometimes new emigrants were the "backhaul" on these ships returning to Canada from Great Britain. Sounds like an interesting story - does anyone know any more info about this ship or the people involved? Also, I've heard that John's father (Duncan McMartin, married to Janet Gilchrist) died in Nova Scotia, but haven't been able to find documentation. Thanks for any info! The names and dates are wonderful, but the stories are my favorite - also the hardest to confirm! -Gayle Olson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I searched add-all for old books on Errol, since a member of the angus list was interested in Errol. I had written her about two local history books on Errol and the Carse of Gowrie, and to my delight I found two little paperbacks on the villages along the carse, one east and one west. They include east Invergowrie, Kingoodie, Inchture and Kinnaird. west, includes Kinfauns, Glencarse, Errol and Rait. _http://used.addall.com/_ (http://used.addall.com/) I searched by keyword Carse of Gowrie, Perthshire or Errol, Perthshire. If anyone knows of other books on the area, I'd love to hear from you. I have the two written by Lawrence Melville in 1935, and was delighted to learn he's related to my Powries. I'm trying to find books about the placenames of Perthshire, but have found only a book on Aberdeenshire. Mary in Oregon In a message dated 3/16/2010 4:36:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, olsongayle@gmail.com writes: I have a ship question for you. My gggg grandparents, John (Ian) McMartin and Katherine Robertson were married on Valentines Day, 1798 in Weem, Perthshire and set sail for Canada shortly after that. One source said it was at the invitation of two of Katherine's brothers who were already in Canada. >From a distant cousin, I received this excerpt from a letter by Bert McMartin of Castalia, Iowa (brother to my great grandmother Elsie McMartin Kobriger and son of Daniel Angus McMartin who was grandson of John & Katherine) to his Aunt Gladys (Mrs. F.M. Pettygrove, Wilton ND dated 12 Dec 1925, when Bert was about 53: " As far as I know, in 1798 John (Ian) McMartin and his wife Katherine amd some other relatives left Scotland (they were Highlanders) for America. They were on the ocean for several months. The captain of the vessel went crazy and sailed back and forth on the ocean for months until they were almost out of provisions. When the first mate seized the captain and put him in restraints. The mate took charge of the vessel and steered for the nearest shore, which was Labrador. It then sailed on to the Bay of Chaleurs. They stayed there probably one or two years. From there they went to Huntington, Quebec outside of Montreal and then on to St. Andrew's East, Quebec on the River Rouge." In trying to hunt this down, I've found that lumber from Canada was a popular export from this area and era and that sometimes new emigrants were the "backhaul" on these ships returning to Canada from Great Britain. Sounds like an interesting story - does anyone know any more info about this ship or the people involved? Also, I've heard that John's father (Duncan McMartin, married to Janet Gilchrist) died in Nova Scotia, but haven't been able to find documentation. Thanks for any info! The names and dates are wonderful, but the stories are my favorite - also the hardest to confirm! -Gayle Olson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am searching for families descended from James SLATER born 1806 in Caputh. He was a son of Peter SLATER & his wife Marjorie BALLANTINE. James married Mary Ann McKENZIE. Their children were Elizabeth b1834 in Caputh, Margery b1836 in Caputh, Janet b1837 in Caputh, James Brown b1859 in Kinloch, Alexander b1841 in Kinloch, Helen b1843 in West Lodge,Forneth, Thomas b1846 in West Lodge,Forneth, James b1848 in West Lodge,Forneth , Mary Ann b1850 in West Lodge,Forneth , Poonamalee Rajago (Paul) b1853 in Strone Joseph Henderson b 1856 in Caputh. I am particularly interested in finding out about number 5 son Paul. TIA Helen McNamara Christchurch New Zealad No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2843 - Release Date: 04/30/10 06:27:00

Helen, I can see a recently submitted Family Tree at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ But it seems to cover mainly the Australian lines of a son of Paul's eldest brother James. The problem is that it will cost money for most people to look at Scotland's People, so you're not going to get many people looking unless they are direct ancestors. And it's such a big family. Alternatively you can look at Scottish Census records on Ancestry, but again one has to have paid for a subscription. As a semi professional researcher, it shouldn't be too hard. It just the cost. I recommend you spend a few dollars on Scotland's People. It only costs a couple of dollars per view. Otherwise post what you know about Paul and see if people might help. Peter in Sydney. PS!! One of the family died in the old hospital that used to be about two blocks from where I live.

There's more Perth based material being produced through Ancestry's World Archives Project - see http://scottishancestry.blogspot.com/2010/04/forthcoming-scottish-material-from.html. The material was sourced from Perth and Kinross Archives, digitised 3 years ago. Already available is 1802 Perth militia survey and Perthshire school register reports from 1869-1901. Chris

Helen Paul SLATER died in 1931 in Galashiels, Selkirkshire aged 77. He was working as a gardener in Selkirkshire in a number of the later censuses, usually going under the name Paul. The marriage of Rajahgo (sic) Paul SLATER to Elizabeth DICKSON was registered in Melrose, Roxburghshire in 1880. By the 1891 Census when Paul was a gardener living at 9 Wood Street, Galashiels, they had 3 children: Bessie Hogg SLATER, 9; James SLATER, 7; Mary McKenzie SLATER, 4. (he is transcribed by Ancestry as Reigahgopaul in that census). The image of the marriage and death certificates can be downloaded from Scotlands People at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk As Peter said in an earlier email, it is a pay site. Rhoda p.s do you know why he was given that wonderful name? Could he have been named after an Indian servant working for the same employer as his father?

Is there anyone on the list who might be considered the "resident expert" on early Errol families ? Or, can anyone direct me please. Diane

I haven't experienced any recent problems, but I recognise some of what you are both saying from the past - when I upgraded my machine. I think it came down to the choice of 'viewer' that ScP offers. There is more info on that topic here http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=551&458 and here http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/faqs/index.aspx?45 Alternatively, send a 'contact us' message - I've always found them to be very helpful. http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=551&460 HTH Pat "Here's tae us! Wha's like us? Damn few! - an' they're a' deid!" Old Scots Toast -----Original Message----- From: perthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:perthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret O' Donnell Sent: 27 April 2010 16:04 To: perthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] scotlands people / Something has changed but I do not know what, at SP In the last two weeks - <[snip]> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Hudson" <whudson@kingston.net> To: <PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com>; <ANGUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:01 PM Subject: [PERTHSHIRE] scotlands people > > Help is requested using Scotland's People...I have not used it for a > while... <[snip]> > Thanks > Jean Wighton-Hudson

Something has changed but I do not know what, at SP In the last two weeks - I tried to print out a new Image, old OPR which I have done before, but nothing came out just a blank page. I had to save the image to a temp folder, in my pictures folder, from there I sent it to my documents so I could print it out. The many images I have paid for in the past I can still view and print out as before. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Hudson" <whudson@kingston.net> To: <PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com>; <ANGUS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:01 PM Subject: [PERTHSHIRE] scotlands people > > Help is requested using Scotland's People...I have not used it for a > while... > When I clicked on " view " for names I had paid for in the past, I was > given a page to open or save...clicked on open, but then had to determine > which document to use to actually view the certificate...when it came up, > it was so large, I could not view it on one page... > In the past, I could view the certificate on one page and print it... > Not sure what has changed or if I have missed something along the way... > Any assistance would be appreciated > > Thanks > Jean Wighton-Hudson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >