Thank you for the replies to my query re Tullymoran. Kathy On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:28 PM, J Moon <jmoon@talktalk.net> wrote: > If you google it you can find it on streetmap.co.uk. To see it on an old > map > go to: > > http://maps.nls.uk/joins/view/?rsid=74400313&sid=74400316&mid=664&pdesc=Sout > h East section > Magnify the imge and you will find it to the NW of Methven where it is > spelled Tillymoran. > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: perthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:perthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Kathleen Ogg-Moss > Sent: 06 September 2010 21:03 > To: Perthshire@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PERTHSHIRE] Tullymoran > > > Where is Tullymoran? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Where is Tullymoran?

01738 446865 or e-mail esburials@pkc.gov.uk Louise On 4 September 2010 22:18, <honeynov90@aol.com> wrote: > > Researching possible burial in Stanley, Perthshire, 1924. > > I would appreciate the E-address of Perthshire Parks & Burials. > > Thanks so much. > > Marge >

Researching possible burial in Stanley, Perthshire, 1924. I would appreciate the E-address of Perthshire Parks & Burials. Thanks so much. Marge

James McDonald married Christian Ferguson in Killin, Perthshire on 14 June 1812. Is anyone researching this family? I'd like to find out if this couple are the parens  of James McDonald, born around this time in Perth. His death record gives his parents as James McDonald, a soldier, and MARY Ferguson, but I can't find anything else on a couple with these names, nor James's birth record (his year of birth varies in the census records, though his place of birth always appears as Perth).   Thanks for any  help.

Dear Ryk, This is a long shot, but it's worth a try! My ggg grandfather was Lt. Evan Macgregor, born c.1789, died 1836. After many years searching I have amassed considerable information about him, including a series of letter which he wrote to Sir John Macgregor Murray. The following letter may be of interest to you. What I am wondering is what, if any, was Lt. Evan's connection with the Stewarts of Garth? Lt. Evan, considering his humble beginnings, was a great letter write so there is a slight possibility that he may have also written to 'your' Stewarts. I wonder if you have ever come across him? Although I have great detail re. Lt. Evan and his offspring, it has only been in the last few years that I have been able to definitely identify his father as Donald McGrigor who died at Middle Styx in 1812. Because this Donald sent petitions to the Earl of Breadalbane (re. the appalling state of his cottage on the South side of Loch Tay etc), I now know that Lt. Evan's father married twice and that his second wife was Janet Campbell. The name of his first wife - i.e.. Lt. Evan's mother remains a mystery. It is to locate the name of Lt. Evan's mother and her linage that is my present challenge. Here is the letter which refers to your Stewarts and with your help, may hold some clues. Kenmore 9th May 1815, Honoured Chief, I beg leave to acquaint you that Colonel Stewart's brother was recommended for the Quartermastership of the Highland Perthshire Local Militia, a few days previous to my application. The Colonel showed me a great deal of attention and was so pleased by your letter that he expressed himself very sorry that it was out of his power to serve you by recommending me for the appointment, but in time to come, if he could be of any service to me, he would be most happy. I intimated to Mr Stewart of Garth Junior and to the Rev. Mr Macbean Minister of Kenmore my intention of settling in Perth and that it would be proper for me to have a cash account of three or four hundred pounds at the Bank. As they both know the girl, and consider it a very prudent step, they offered to become my securities to the Bank, for whatever sum I should think necessary. I visit often at Garth where I meet the greatest friendship possible. Mr Stewart returns you his best thanks for your kind offer of sending him a Gaelic prayer book, which he does not want, being himself a subscriber for several copies of the said publication. The school master of Kenmore begs leave to return you his acknowledgment for the Gaelic Grammar, which he finds very useful being a Lowlander and had to have the Gaelic after settling in this part of the Country. On inquiry I find that none of the Parochial Schools in this neighbourhood have received the Gaelic Grammar which you was good enough to send to them through Mr McIvor at Dunkeld. May I beg my most respectful compliments to Lady Macgregor and to John Atholl my young Chief, who promises to be, an honour to his name and to his country, and may I beg you will accept my most grateful acknowledgments for the great friendship and kinship which I have experienced at your hands, and for which my life will be too short to show my gratitude. I have the honour to be Honoured Chief Your most obedient servant, Ewan ? Evan ? Macgregor, Lieut. H.M. 5th Foot. Incidentally, I have not found the burial place of Donald. The Donald Macgregor 'farmer of Styx' buried in the Kenmore churchyard is unfortunately not him! I guess he may be in there somewhere but it must be an unmarked grave, unlike Lt. Evan who has a large monument in Greyfriars in Perth! And finally, my g grandmother told me many years ago that we had Callendar connections. I know from reading your mail that this is a particular interest of yours. I mention this as I have never found the birth place and record of Lt. Evan's birth either! His birth date is just calculated from army records etc. Sincerely, in hope! Janet Hawkins.

I've just received a response from James Irvine Robertson that the Stewart of Garth document in question originally comes from his website. As such we will be removing the link on the Balquhidder site shortly. You can find the original document here: http://www.jamesirvinerobertson.co.uk/html/archive.html Thank you very much to James for clearing that up. Ryk Brown Stewarts of Balquhidder Research Group ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryk & Heather" <ryk.heather@cogeco.ca> To: <perthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 8:35 AM Subject: [PERTHSHIRE] Stewart of Garth resources > The link for the Stewart of Garth resource is now available: > > The document uploaded to our Balquhidder web site at: > > http://chuckspeed.com/balquhidder/history/KynachanDrumcharryandGarthDocs.pdf > > You can also find the link to it under "Other Resources" on our homepage > at: > > http://chuckspeed.com/balquhidder/balquhidder%20stewarts.html > > It appears to be a series of account statements and other misc > correspondence from the 18th century. I've invited James Irvine Robertson > to have a look at it and comment on it. > > Please don't ask me for any analysis of the contents as I am not a Garth > researcher so I know nothing about any persons mentioned in the document. > The source of the document is unknown. > > Ryk Brown > Stewarts of Balquhidder Research Group > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The link for the Stewart of Garth resource is now available: The document uploaded to our Balquhidder web site at: http://chuckspeed.com/balquhidder/history/KynachanDrumcharryandGarthDocs.pdf You can also find the link to it under "Other Resources" on our homepage at: http://chuckspeed.com/balquhidder/balquhidder%20stewarts.html It appears to be a series of account statements and other misc correspondence from the 18th century. I've invited James Irvine Robertson to have a look at it and comment on it. Please don't ask me for any analysis of the contents as I am not a Garth researcher so I know nothing about any persons mentioned in the document. The source of the document is unknown. Ryk Brown Stewarts of Balquhidder Research Group

Janet I should clarify: the Stewarts of Garth are not related to the Stewarts of Balquhidder. My expertise is in the latter. I know little of the Stewarts of Garth and am not studying them. We simply stumbled upon a large Garth resource which we thought would be helpful to share with others, even though it's not related to our Stewarts. So I cannot make any competent response to anything related to the Stewarts of Garth beyond superficial knowledge. As to your letter below, all I can say is that it mentions Breadalbane and Garth, therefore would appear to connect to the Garth area and any Stewarts mentioned therein, including the specifically mentioned Mr. Stewart of Garth Jr (who I'm guessing would be Maj. Gen. David Stewart of Garth) would appear to connect to Garth. I see nothing in the letter that would infer any relationship to the Stewarts of Balquhidder. I hope that answers your question. Sincerely Ryk Brown Stewarts of Balquhidder Research Group ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Hawkins" <janeth@vicnet.net.au> To: <perthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 3:52 AM Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] Stewart of Garth resources > Dear Ryk, > This is a long shot, but it's worth a try! My ggg grandfather was Lt. > Evan > Macgregor, born > c.1789, died 1836. After many years searching I have amassed considerable > information about him, including a series of letter which he wrote to Sir > John Macgregor Murray. The following letter may be of interest to you. > What I am wondering is what, if any, was Lt. Evan's connection with the > Stewarts of Garth? Lt. Evan, considering his humble beginnings, was a > great > letter write so there is a slight possibility that he may have also > written > to 'your' Stewarts. I wonder if you have ever come across him? > Although I have great detail re. Lt. Evan and his offspring, it has only > been in the last few years that I have been able to definitely identify > his > father as Donald McGrigor who died at Middle Styx in 1812. Because this > Donald sent petitions to the Earl of Breadalbane (re. the appalling state > of > his cottage on the South side of Loch Tay etc), I now know that Lt. > Evan's > father married twice and that his second wife was Janet Campbell. The > name > of his first wife - i.e.. Lt. Evan's mother remains a mystery. It is to > locate the name of Lt. Evan's mother and her linage that is my present > challenge. > Here is the letter which refers to your Stewarts and with your help, may > hold some clues. > > Kenmore 9th May 1815, > Honoured Chief, > > > I beg leave to acquaint you that Colonel Stewart's brother was recommended > for the Quartermastership of the Highland Perthshire Local Militia, a few > days previous to my application. > > > The Colonel showed me a great deal of attention and was so pleased by your > letter that he expressed himself very sorry that it was out of his power > to > serve you by recommending me for the appointment, but in time to come, if > he > could be of any service to me, he would be most happy. > > > I intimated to Mr Stewart of Garth Junior and to the Rev. Mr Macbean > Minister of Kenmore my intention of settling in Perth and that it would > be > proper for me to have a cash account of three or four hundred pounds at > the > Bank. As they both know the girl, and consider it a very prudent step, > they offered to become my securities to the Bank, for whatever sum I > should > think necessary. > > > I visit often at Garth where I meet the greatest friendship possible. Mr > Stewart returns you his best thanks for your kind offer of sending him a > Gaelic prayer book, which he does not want, being himself a subscriber for > several copies of the said publication. > > > The school master of Kenmore begs leave to return you his acknowledgment > for the Gaelic Grammar, which he finds very useful being a Lowlander and > had to have the Gaelic after settling in this part of the Country. On > inquiry I find that none of the Parochial Schools in this neighbourhood > have > received the Gaelic Grammar which you was good enough to send to them > through Mr McIvor at Dunkeld. > > > May I beg my most respectful compliments to Lady Macgregor and to John > Atholl my young Chief, who promises to be, an honour to his name and to > his > country, and may I beg you will accept my most grateful acknowledgments > for > the great friendship and kinship which I have experienced at your hands, > and > for which my life will be too short to show my gratitude. > > I have the honour to be > > Honoured Chief > > Your most obedient servant, Ewan ? Evan ? Macgregor, Lieut. H.M. 5th > Foot. > > Incidentally, I have not found the burial place of Donald. The Donald > Macgregor 'farmer of Styx' buried in the Kenmore churchyard is > unfortunately > not him! I guess he may be in there somewhere but it must be an unmarked > grave, unlike Lt. Evan who has a large monument in Greyfriars in Perth! > > And finally, my g grandmother told me many years ago that we had Callendar > connections. I know from reading your mail that this is a particular > interest of yours. I mention this as I have never found the birth place > and > record of Lt. Evan's birth either! His birth date is just calculated from > army records etc. > > Sincerely, in hope! > > Janet Hawkins. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In one sense it is off-topic but in another, it might be seen as helpful warning to others. I suppose the Appletree folks are paying attention to who has the larger files on Rootsweb/Ancestry and targeting them for their own personal reasons (financial gain). Some discussion of this can be helpful but keeping that to a minimum will also be appreciated by all who do not have such large files uploaded. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We have 465 members on this list so chances are there are a fair number who will benefit because of it. Best wishes, Jim "Pops" Jackson - Perthshire admin -----Original Message----- From: perthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:perthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ryk & Heather Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:28 PM To: perthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [PERTHSHIRE] Caution re: Appletree.com My apologies to the Mod if this is considered off-topic. (Snipped)

My apologies to the Mod if this is considered off-topic. It pertains to all genealogists who use RootsWeb WorldConnect to host your GED. If you feel it's appropriate, please forward this to your colleagues on the other Rootsweb genealogy list-serves. Twice now, after updating my GED at RootsWeb's WorldConnect, I have been solicited by a new genealogy web site called www.appletree.com. They are asking me to upload my GED to their site. Upon closer inspection of their site I observed that they place a high emphasis on connecting living people to living people, especially celebrities, and they have a naive goal of "connecting every living person" through one giant world tree. I have a personal philosphy (consistent with RootsWeb's policy) of NOT publishing private information on living persons. It appeared to me that Applewood encourages sharing private information on living persons. So I replied to their solicitation email and asked them directly about their privacy policy. Indeed, I was correct. They replied that they see it as essential for their project that it include information on living persons. I indicated that I felt this was a violation of personal privacy and I was NOT interested in participating in their project. Yet, when I updated my GED just a few days ago they sent me yet another solicitation letter trying to get me to send them my GED. It appears right now they are only targetting RootsWeb users who have very large GEDs. (Mine is 20,000+.) If you are concerned about protecting the privacy of living persons in your database then I would urge you extreme caution if you are contacted by Applewood before you send them your GED. I am NOT sending them my GED and I have told them so and I have asked them to stop soliciting me. Ryk Brown Stewarts of Balquhidder Research Group

We have just come into possession of a transcription of a large number of documents pertaining to the Stewarts of Garth. Although these resources do not pertain at all to the Stewarts of Balquhidder, we felt they were too valuable to just let pass. We will be uploading them to the Stewarts of Balquhidder website shortly. I will send a link when they are uploaded. Ryk Brown Stewarts of Balquhidder Research Group

Thanks Ryk. I'll be most interested as my Stewarts are supposed to belong to the Garth family. Virginia

Dear Perthshire group. I would like to purchase two books... The book of Garth and Fortingall and The Arrow of Glenlyon. If any one can part with them, please email me. Annie from Ontario.

I'm hoping Geoff Masters is still subscribed to this list, as I've made a small discovery about some of our Alyth CRICHTONs, and I want to pick his brains! I'd been wondering for ages where Janet CRICHTON (born 20 Jan 1811, Alyth, Perthshire) and her husband Robert STEWART (married 25 Dec 1830, Dunfermline, Fife) had disappeared after 1851, at which time they were living in Scoonie, Fife: 1851 Census Durie Coal Works, Scoonie, Fife Stewart Robert Head M 43 Coal Grieve Perth, Alyth Stewart Janet Wife M 40 Perth, Alyth Stewart Robert Son U 18 Perth, Alyth Stewart Susan Dau U 15 Perth, Alyth Stewart John Son U 10 Scholar Fife, Wemyss Stewart Jean Dau U 8 Scholar Fife, Wemyss Stewart Daniel Son U 4 Fife, Scoonie Stewart Janet Dau U 2 Fife, Scoonie Stewart Margaret Dau U 3mths Fife, Scoonie I've now found pretty compelling evidence of three of their children in Queensland, Australia (not that surprising, as at least five of Janet's siblings emigrated to Australia). First, I found the death of a John Crichton STEWART on 26 Feb 1926 in Queensland, Australia; the death index gives his parents as "Robert STEWART and Janet CRICHTON" - I believe this to be Janet and Robert's son John born 2 Dec 1839 in West Wemyss, Wemyss, Fife. Next, I found the death of a Daniel STEWART on 15 Jun 1880, Queensland, Australia; the death index gives his parents as "Robert STEWART and Janet CRICHTON" - I believe this to be Janet and Robert's son Daniel born 10 Aug 1847, Scoonie, Fife. Lastly, I found the death of a Janet Crichton FLYNN on 27 May 1904, Queensland, Australia; the death index gives her parents as "Robert STEWART and Janet CRICHTON" - I believe this to be Janet and Robert's daughter Janet, born 15 Nov 1849, Scoonie, Fife. I had a look for a marriage, and found a Janet STEWART marrying a William FLYNN on 19 Jan 1874, Queensland, Australia - the date and location would fit... If anyone has any further info about the above, or any other of Robert STEWART and Janet CRICHTON's family, I shall be very pleased to hear of it! Best wishes, Sue

Hi Alan should have sent this to the list sorry no, well I don't know much about this family, I should say. so far all I have found is (the following family taken from death entry details of Janet) John McGRIGOR (sometimes McGregor) b unknown d unknown m 18 Jan 1783 Ruinacraig Balquhidder (OPR, IGI) Christian McLAREN of Duchrioch ? (also Christan/Cirsty/Christina) b unknown d unknown children: (IGI & OPR) all born Ruinacraig (Ruidnacraig),Balquhidder J.McGRIGOR b 26 Feb 1784 Balquhidder (OPR unknown, IGI* male) - Christan (sic) Katharine McGREGOR b 06 Nov 1785 Balquhidder (OPR, IGI -submission) - Christian Christian McGRIGOR... b 02 Dec 1787 Balquhidder (OPR, IGI* female) - Christian Donald McGRIGOR... b 11 Sep 1789 Balquhidder (OPR, IGI* male) - Cirsty John McGREGOR (McGrigor) b 26 Feb 1792 Balquhidder (OPR, IGI* male) - Christian Donald McGRIGOR... b 08 May 1794 Balquhidder (OPR, IGI* male) - Christian * extracted births interestingly enough, in the 1841 census, by now Janet, James & some family are in Glasgow. In the 1851 census, staying with them are a cousin Robert McLaren @ 31 born Balquhidder, & a nephew Daniel McGregor @ 22 b Callander. In 1841 a Peter McCuan @ 16 & I think he ties into the McLaren's also. I don't know how, or when Janet went to Callander, only that she was there by 1805. This has been an interesting search, as my Mother (b NZ), didn't know much about her parents families (all Scottish). Every now & then I have rung her, "I've found you another uncle/aunt /cousin". My Grandmother died when I was 11, all I remember about the family, other than her own stories, was "we're related to Rob Roy McGregor". Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Eadie" <eadie@uwclub.net> To: <perthshire@rootsweb.com>; <honk-abel@westnet.com.au> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:11 PM Subject: [PERTHSHIRE] Fw: BROWN Duncan bc 1817 Callander plus McLarens > Whoops - correction Donald McLaren should read David McLaren in email > below. > > Alan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Eadie" <eadie@uwclub.net> > To: <honk-abel@westnet.com.au>; <perthshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 11:07 AM > Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] BROWN Duncan bc 1817 Callander plus McLarens > > >> Jan & Wayne, >> >> Mention of McLarens and Callander reminds me that I have a Christian >> (Christina) McLaren born about 1787 in Callander. Her parents were a >> Donald McLaren and a Janet McNab. Christian McLaren married James Eadie >> in Aberfoyle in 1816 and Christian died on 23rd August 1863 aged 76 in >> Shettleston, Lanarkshire. Ring any bells with anyone? >> >> Alan >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Wayne Abel" <honk-abel@westnet.com.au> >> To: <perthshire@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:40 AM >> Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] BROWN Duncan bc 1817 Callander >> >> >>> Jan, I have some Mclarens who I believe are oridginally from >>> Callander but moved too Kilmadock/Doune and John McLaren my ggg >>> grandfather married Mary Brown, one of their Daughters Jane came to NZ >>> with her elder sister Grace and Graces Husband William Smeaton in about >>> 1884.. Jane married John Perfect in Napier and settle in Woodville NZ.. >>> do any of these names ring a bell with yours. >>> Wayne >>>> Hi Ryk >>>> >>>> thanks, will have a look for these. >>>> >>>> My McGrigor family seems to originate fron Ruid na Craig/ Ruinacraig >>>> (Ruidnacraig), Balquhidder (Janet's family), but can't get further as >>>> her >>>> baptism 1784, could be the one which, badly damaged has "J"& sex >>>> depending >>>> on where you look as unknown or male. Her death cert 1872 (age 90) has >>>> parents as John McGrigor& Christian (Christina) Mclaren (m 1783 OPR). >>>> Have >>>> pieced together a family for them also. >>>> >>>> Jan >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jan, I have seen Duncan and Daniel used interchangably. Could Daniel be your Duncan? Doreen --- On Thu, 19/8/10, rusty york <rusty_york@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > From: rusty york <rusty_york@xtra.co.nz> > Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] BROWN Duncan bc 1817 Callander > To: perthshire@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, 19 August, 2010, 20:45 > Hi all > > thanks for  your help > > yes I did do both Scotlands people & IGI. several times > - OPR & statistical, > wills & censuses. > > my main query was that I had wondered if Alexander was > interchangeable with > Duncan, as Alexander does not appear again, but Duncan, > Peter, Finlay & the > younger girls appear in the census1841 &/or 1851. I had > also considered that > Janet  (1826) might be known as Christian (c1826). > > unfortunately all I have found is > James Brown m Janet McGrigor 1805 (later births McGregor) > Cirsty Brown  b 1806 Kincardine by Doune > Daniel Brown  b 1808 Kincardine by Doune > John Brown    b 1810  Kincardine by > Doune  m Janet Manifold > James Brown  b 1813 Kincardine by Doune  m Janet > McKenzie > Peter Brown   b1815  Callander m Janet > Stewart > Alexander Brown b 1820 Callander > Finlay Brown        b 1822 Callander > Janet Brown         b 1826 > Doune > Margaret Brown  b 1830  Doune > I have OPR copies for all these events. > Christian Brown b c 1826 (census) > > I also have info for John 1810, James 1813, Peter 1815, all > with the help of > SP. > I found info on the births of James' children that helped > me with John & > Peter, & more recently found info from John's death > which helped with > Duncan. (which helped to add them in). I have built up > families for them. > Still trying to find John'wife death (1852-9), but that's > another mystery... > > I will do the parish searches that have been suggested, by > Iain & Chris. > > thanks > Jan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Iain Kennedy" <ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com> > To: <perthshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 12:13 AM > Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] BROWN Duncan bc 1817 Callander > > > > > > Have you experimented with familysearch.org to get a > crude reconstruction > > of the family? You can do a children search to get all > the potential > > children of James Brown and Janet McGregor, then try > to work out if they > > all belong to the same parents. There is only one > visible parents marriage > > for those two, but it could still be two families with > only one having a > > recorded marriage. > > > > Also you can always use the Hugh Wallis IGI Batch > interface (google it) to > > zoom in on a particular parish like Callander. > > > > Remember though that ScotlandsPeople is more complete > than the IGI and to > > make sure with the latter that you are looking at > church extract records. > > > > You should end up with more children than those you > mentioned. > > > > Iain Kennedy > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.kennedydna.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- > >> From: rusty_york@xtra.co.nz > >> To: perthshire@rootsweb.com > >> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:31:41 +1200 > >> Subject: [PERTHSHIRE] BROWN Duncan bc 1817 > Callander > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> I have found Duncan BROWN bc 1817 in Callander. I > found him with his > >> mother & family in the 1841 census, & > again in later censuses, also as a > >> witness in his brothers death, in 1859. > >> He died in Glasgow 1897 @80. > >> > >> I cannot, however, find his birth, I have found > Alexander b 1820 & Finlay > >> b 1822. nothing much else, other than Finlay in > 1841 census with the > >> family. > >> > >> Is someone able to advise please if Duncan is a > name that would > >> interchange with Alexander or any other name? (as > in something like > >> Janet-Jessie-Jean). > >> > >> thanks > >> Jan (NZ) > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > >> PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Whoops - correction Donald McLaren should read David McLaren in email below. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Eadie" <eadie@uwclub.net> To: <honk-abel@westnet.com.au>; <perthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] BROWN Duncan bc 1817 Callander plus McLarens > Jan & Wayne, > > Mention of McLarens and Callander reminds me that I have a Christian > (Christina) McLaren born about 1787 in Callander. Her parents were a > Donald McLaren and a Janet McNab. Christian McLaren married James Eadie > in Aberfoyle in 1816 and Christian died on 23rd August 1863 aged 76 in > Shettleston, Lanarkshire. Ring any bells with anyone? > > Alan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne Abel" <honk-abel@westnet.com.au> > To: <perthshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:40 AM > Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] BROWN Duncan bc 1817 Callander > > >> Jan, I have some Mclarens who I believe are oridginally from >> Callander but moved too Kilmadock/Doune and John McLaren my ggg >> grandfather married Mary Brown, one of their Daughters Jane came to NZ >> with her elder sister Grace and Graces Husband William Smeaton in about >> 1884.. Jane married John Perfect in Napier and settle in Woodville NZ.. >> do any of these names ring a bell with yours. >> Wayne >>> Hi Ryk >>> >>> thanks, will have a look for these. >>> >>> My McGrigor family seems to originate fron Ruid na Craig/ Ruinacraig >>> (Ruidnacraig), Balquhidder (Janet's family), but can't get further as >>> her >>> baptism 1784, could be the one which, badly damaged has "J"& sex >>> depending >>> on where you look as unknown or male. Her death cert 1872 (age 90) has >>> parents as John McGrigor& Christian (Christina) Mclaren (m 1783 OPR). >>> Have >>> pieced together a family for them also. >>> >>> Jan >>> >>> ----- >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jan & Wayne, Mention of McLarens and Callander reminds me that I have a Christian (Christina) McLaren born about 1787 in Callander. Her parents were a Donald McLaren and a Janet McNab. Christian McLaren married James Eadie in Aberfoyle in 1816 and Christian died on 23rd August 1863 aged 76 in Shettleston, Lanarkshire. Ring any bells with anyone? Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Abel" <honk-abel@westnet.com.au> To: <perthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] BROWN Duncan bc 1817 Callander > Jan, I have some Mclarens who I believe are oridginally from > Callander but moved too Kilmadock/Doune and John McLaren my ggg > grandfather married Mary Brown, one of their Daughters Jane came to NZ > with her elder sister Grace and Graces Husband William Smeaton in about > 1884.. Jane married John Perfect in Napier and settle in Woodville NZ.. > do any of these names ring a bell with yours. > Wayne >> Hi Ryk >> >> thanks, will have a look for these. >> >> My McGrigor family seems to originate fron Ruid na Craig/ Ruinacraig >> (Ruidnacraig), Balquhidder (Janet's family), but can't get further as her >> baptism 1784, could be the one which, badly damaged has "J"& sex >> depending >> on where you look as unknown or male. Her death cert 1872 (age 90) has >> parents as John McGrigor& Christian (Christina) Mclaren (m 1783 OPR). >> Have >> pieced together a family for them also. >> >> Jan >> >> ----- >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ryk thanks, will have a look for these. My McGrigor family seems to originate fron Ruid na Craig/ Ruinacraig (Ruidnacraig), Balquhidder (Janet's family), but can't get further as her baptism 1784, could be the one which, badly damaged has "J"& sex depending on where you look as unknown or male. Her death cert 1872 (age 90) has parents as John McGrigor & Christian (Christina) Mclaren (m 1783 OPR). Have pieced together a family for them also. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryk & Heather" <ryk.heather@cogeco.ca> To: <perthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 6:01 AM Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] BROWN Duncan bc 1817 Callander > Having done a lot of work with Callander parish records over the years for > our Stewarts my observations are that the Callander OPR itself is > incomplete > with several years missing. There was also a very active Anglican church > community around Glen Finglas and Loch Venacher, so many baptisms from > this > area are Anglican, not C of S. However the C of S parish church in > Callander did copy many of the Anglican baptisms into its own parish > register during the mid-18th century. But you would be wise to search for > Anglican records for other years. Furthermore we have found than many of > the settlements around Loch Katrine in Upper Strathgartney were so far > distant from the parish church in Callander that the residents just > couldn't > be bothered to travel that far for baptisms so we have found that for > families at the far west end of the parish there are frequently huge gaps > in > the family baptisms. We have found with rural Callander families it is > often necessary to reconstruct the families from other records and merely > estimate some births. > > Ryk Brown > Stewarts of Balquhidder Research Group > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Paton" <christopherpaton@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <perthshire@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:28 AM > Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] BROWN Duncan bc 1817 Callander > > >> The IGI is less complete than ScotlandsPeople when it comes to Church of >> Scotland records (and has no extracted Scottish Catholic parish records), >> but it does also hold some non-Church of Scotland extracted index entries >> for some dissenting Presbyterian parishes. Hugh Wallis's site shows these >> on >> the Scottish batch numbers page, but it is only a handful. >> >> It's worth exploring the Statistical Index for Callander and surrounding >> parishes to see what other denominations were in the area, as he may not >> have been necessarily Church of Scotland. See >> http://stat-acc-scot.edina.ac.uk/sas/sas.asp?action=public&passback= If >> he >> wasn't Church of Scotland you may need to check other parish records at >> the >> NAS in Edinburgh - most non Church of Scotland denominations for that >> period >> are under CH3. He may also simply not have been baptised! >> >> On the IGI, it's worth noting that you can also search this using the >> Scots >> Origins site without needing to know batch numbers - see >> www.originsnetwork.com/SOWelcome.aspx for separate search screens for >> baptisms and marriages. >> >> Chris >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Iain Kennedy" <ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com> >> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:13 PM >> To: <perthshire@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] BROWN Duncan bc 1817 Callander >> >>> >>> Have you experimented with familysearch.org to get a crude >>> reconstruction >>> of the family? You can do a children search to get all the potential >>> children of James Brown and Janet McGregor, then try to work out if they >>> all belong to the same parents. There is only one visible parents >>> marriage >>> for those two, but it could still be two families with only one having a >>> recorded marriage. >>> >>> Also you can always use the Hugh Wallis IGI Batch interface (google it) >>> to >>> zoom in on a particular parish like Callander. >>> >>> Remember though that ScotlandsPeople is more complete than the IGI and >>> to >>> make sure with the latter that you are looking at church extract >>> records. >>> >>> You should end up with more children than those you mentioned. >>> >>> Iain Kennedy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.kennedydna.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>>> From: rusty_york@xtra.co.nz >>>> To: perthshire@rootsweb.com >>>> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:31:41 +1200 >>>> Subject: [PERTHSHIRE] BROWN Duncan bc 1817 Callander >>>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I have found Duncan BROWN bc 1817 in Callander. I found him with his >>>> mother & family in the 1841 census, & again in later censuses, also as >>>> a >>>> witness in his brothers death, in 1859. >>>> He died in Glasgow 1897 @80. >>>> >>>> I cannot, however, find his birth, I have found Alexander b 1820 & >>>> Finlay >>>> b 1822. nothing much else, other than Finlay in 1841 census with the >>>> family. >>>> >>>> Is someone able to advise please if Duncan is a name that would >>>> interchange with Alexander or any other name? (as in something like >>>> Janet-Jessie-Jean). >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> Jan (NZ) >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message