I am researching my McPherson family from the Rhynd area and have found both these addresses on the Census for them. I am trying to figure out what the Grange part means. I can find Elcho Castle, but where would the grange be in location to the castle. Does it mean a house, a farmshouse, and small group of cottages. I am assuming that the Grange cottage would just be a cottage, but what would it be connected to - a farm, or just in the town. He was an agricultural labourer on both Census. Living in Canada, sometimes it's hard to get a sense of what these things are. I have googled them both but to no avail. Brenda Canada __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5581 (20101101) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

HI PAM, I wonder if you could check something for me seeing as you have offered. I have a John Stoddart m: 14 July 1811 in Dunblane. ( this is where his wife came from but they resided in Muthill ). I have six children from their marriage BUT I researched through FamilySearch.com and as you will realize they are not always correct. What I have for their children is the following: William b: 27 Feb 1815 Peter b: unknown David b: 25 June 1817 James b: 11 Noiv 1818 John b: 8 Apr 1822 Thomas b: 8 Mar 1823 All born in Muthill. I feel that they are all correct so maybe, when you find the time and the inclination could you check them for me. All the best and cheers for now, Warren Stoddart On 05/10/2010, at 10:41 PM, PMR wrote: > Hello Listers > > I have Episcopal records for Muthill Baptisms from 1697-1886 and can check. > Sorry, no marriages or burials. > > Cheers > > Pam > Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia > > > - > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi folks, The Parish of Dron has to be one of the "prettiest" parishes in Scotland. As one drives south from Perth to Edinburgh on the motorway, it cuts through the valley and then takes a left hand dog-leg turn right behind Balmanno Castle in which my grandmother was born in 1917. The river just twists and winds gently through the fertile farmland of the valley but in winter after excessive rain it can take on a completely different look with flooding in many of the fields. Mark -----Original Message----- From: perthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:perthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rossion Inc Sent: 14 October 2010 12:35 To: perthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] PERTHSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 131 In 1882-4, Frances Groome's /Ordnance Gazetteer of Scotland/ described Dron like this: *Dron,* a parish of SE Perthshire, whose church stands 2 miles SSE of its station and post-village, Bridge of Earn, that being 3¾ miles SSE of Perth. It includes a detached district separated from the W side of the main body by a strip of Dunbarney, 1 furlong to ¼ mile across; and it is bounded N by Dunbarney, NE and E by Abernethy, SE by the Fifeshire and S by the Perthshire section of Arngask, SW and W by Forgandenny. Its utmost length, from E to W, is 3¼ miles; its breadth, from N to S, varies between 1¼ and 2^7 /8 miles; and its area is 4192^2 /3 acres, of which 631 belong to the detached district, and 5 are water. ...

Thanks for this. Annie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rossion Inc" <info@rossion.com> To: <perthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] PERTHSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 131 In 1882-4, Frances Groome's /Ordnance Gazetteer of Scotland/ described Dron like this: *Dron,* a parish of SE Perthshire, whose church stands 2 miles SSE of its station and post-village, Bridge of Earn, that being 3¾ miles SSE of Perth. It includes a detached district separated from the W side of the main body by a strip of Dunbarney, 1 furlong to ¼ mile across; and it is bounded N by Dunbarney, NE and E by Abernethy, SE by the Fifeshire and S by the Perthshire section of Arngask, SW and W by Forgandenny. Its utmost length, from E to W, is 3¼ miles; its breadth, from N to S, varies between 1¼ and 2^7 /8 miles; and its area is 4192^2 /3 acres, of which 631 belong to the detached district, and 5 are water. ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Show further information...Hide further information... The Farg winds 3 miles along the south-eastern and eastern border; and in the NE, where it passes off into Abernethy, the surface sinks to 45 feet above sea-level, thence rising to 751 on Balmanno Hill and 950 on Dron Hill-grassy, copsedecked summits of the Ochils these. The rocks are mostly eruptive, but include some sandstone, and show appearances of coal. The soil on the low grounds is chiefly clay and loam, and on the uplands is comparatively light and shallow. About five-eighths of the entire area are in tillage, nearly one-tenth is under wood, and the remainder is pasture. The detached district is called Ecclesiamagirdle, and probably got its name from an ancient chapel of which some fragments still exist. Here and in Dron churchyard are two Martyrs' graves; on Balmanno Hill is a large boulder rocking -stone. Balmanno Castle and Glenearn House are the chief residences; and the property is divided among 7,4 holding each an annual value of £500 and upwards, 1 of between £100 and £500,1 of from £50 to £100, and 1 of from £20 to £50. Dron is in the presbytery of Perth and synod of Perth and Stirling; the living is worth £256. The church is a good Gothic edifice, built about 1826, and containing 350 sittings; the public school, with accommodation for 62 children, had (1880) an average attendance of 44, and a grant of £32,9s. Valuation (1882) £4639,6s. Pop. (1801) 428, (1831) 464, (1861) 376, (1871) 343, (1881) 335.---/Ord. Sur.,/ sh. 48, 1868. Dron through time /A Vision of Britain through Time/ includes a large library of local statistics for administrative units. For the best overall sense of how the area containing Dron has changed, please see our redistricted information for the modern district of Perth and Kinross. More detailed statistical data are available under Units and statistics, which includes both administrative units covering Dron and units named after it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Not where you were looking for? Click here for more detailed advice on finding places within /A Vision of Britain through Time/, and maybe some references to other places called "Dron". On 10/14/2010 3:00 AM, perthshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Dron Perthshire (Annie) > 2. Re: Dron Perthshire (park louise) > 3. Re: Dron Perthshire (Margaret Woodford) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:48:21 -0400 > From: "Annie"<annandjims@start.ca> > Subject: [PERTHSHIRE] Dron Perthshire > To:<perthshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID:<B3686C0721CC436DA420D24465247DD7@acerc2bdbd400a> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Dear group. > Would any one know where Dron Perthshire is? > Annie. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:57:55 +0100 > From: park louise<medionemeton@blueyonder.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] Dron Perthshire > To: Annie<annandjims@start.ca>, perthshire@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTimXKivPTW_qQ7uLZAvDRGQu146e7uKV=oVY3Q+L@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > A page on Dron - very close to where I live in case that's of use > > http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/place/place_page.jsp?p_id=16449 > > Louise > > On 13 October 2010 17:48, Annie<annandjims@start.ca> wrote: > >> Dear group. >> Would any one know where Dron Perthshire is? >> Annie. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:01:35 +0100 > From: "Margaret Woodford"<margaret@laineee.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] Dron Perthshire > To: "Annie"<annandjims@start.ca>,<perthshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID:<94D7B76CFE154706A8C88D2DB2220ED6@MargaretLaptop> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi > > Try this website. > www.visitdunkeld.com/Tour%20Dron%20Parish%20Churchyard%20Sco > > Regards > > Margaret > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PERTHSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > PERTHSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PERTHSHIRE mailing list, send an email to > PERTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PERTHSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 131 > ****************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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In 1882-4, Frances Groome's /Ordnance Gazetteer of Scotland/ described Dron like this: *Dron,* a parish of SE Perthshire, whose church stands 2 miles SSE of its station and post-village, Bridge of Earn, that being 3¾ miles SSE of Perth. It includes a detached district separated from the W side of the main body by a strip of Dunbarney, 1 furlong to ¼ mile across; and it is bounded N by Dunbarney, NE and E by Abernethy, SE by the Fifeshire and S by the Perthshire section of Arngask, SW and W by Forgandenny. Its utmost length, from E to W, is 3¼ miles; its breadth, from N to S, varies between 1¼ and 2^7 /8 miles; and its area is 4192^2 /3 acres, of which 631 belong to the detached district, and 5 are water. ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Show further information...Hide further information... The Farg winds 3 miles along the south-eastern and eastern border; and in the NE, where it passes off into Abernethy, the surface sinks to 45 feet above sea-level, thence rising to 751 on Balmanno Hill and 950 on Dron Hill-grassy, copsedecked summits of the Ochils these. The rocks are mostly eruptive, but include some sandstone, and show appearances of coal. The soil on the low grounds is chiefly clay and loam, and on the uplands is comparatively light and shallow. About five-eighths of the entire area are in tillage, nearly one-tenth is under wood, and the remainder is pasture. The detached district is called Ecclesiamagirdle, and probably got its name from an ancient chapel of which some fragments still exist. Here and in Dron churchyard are two Martyrs' graves; on Balmanno Hill is a large boulder rocking -stone. Balmanno Castle and Glenearn House are the chief residences; and the property is divided among 7,4 holding each an annual value of £500 and upwards, 1 of between £100 and £500,1 of from £50 to £100, and 1 of from £20 to £50. Dron is in the presbytery of Perth and synod of Perth and Stirling; the living is worth £256. The church is a good Gothic edifice, built about 1826, and containing 350 sittings; the public school, with accommodation for 62 children, had (1880) an average attendance of 44, and a grant of £32,9s. Valuation (1882) £4639,6s. Pop. (1801) 428, (1831) 464, (1861) 376, (1871) 343, (1881) 335.---/Ord. Sur.,/ sh. 48, 1868. Dron through time /A Vision of Britain through Time/ includes a large library of local statistics for administrative units. For the best overall sense of how the area containing Dron has changed, please see our redistricted information for the modern district of Perth and Kinross. More detailed statistical data are available under Units and statistics, which includes both administrative units covering Dron and units named after it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Not where you were looking for? Click here for more detailed advice on finding places within /A Vision of Britain through Time/, and maybe some references to other places called "Dron". On 10/14/2010 3:00 AM, perthshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Dron Perthshire (Annie) > 2. Re: Dron Perthshire (park louise) > 3. Re: Dron Perthshire (Margaret Woodford) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:48:21 -0400 > From: "Annie"<annandjims@start.ca> > Subject: [PERTHSHIRE] Dron Perthshire > To:<perthshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID:<B3686C0721CC436DA420D24465247DD7@acerc2bdbd400a> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Dear group. > Would any one know where Dron Perthshire is? > Annie. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:57:55 +0100 > From: park louise<medionemeton@blueyonder.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] Dron Perthshire > To: Annie<annandjims@start.ca>, perthshire@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTimXKivPTW_qQ7uLZAvDRGQu146e7uKV=oVY3Q+L@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > A page on Dron - very close to where I live in case that's of use > > http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/place/place_page.jsp?p_id=16449 > > Louise > > On 13 October 2010 17:48, Annie<annandjims@start.ca> wrote: > >> Dear group. >> Would any one know where Dron Perthshire is? >> Annie. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:01:35 +0100 > From: "Margaret Woodford"<margaret@laineee.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] Dron Perthshire > To: "Annie"<annandjims@start.ca>,<perthshire@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID:<94D7B76CFE154706A8C88D2DB2220ED6@MargaretLaptop> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi > > Try this website. > www.visitdunkeld.com/Tour%20Dron%20Parish%20Churchyard%20Sco > > Regards > > Margaret > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PERTHSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > PERTHSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PERTHSHIRE mailing list, send an email to PERTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PERTHSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 131 > ******************************************

Hi Try this website. www.visitdunkeld.com/Tour%20Dron%20Parish%20Churchyard%20Sco Regards Margaret

A page on Dron - very close to where I live in case that's of use http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/place/place_page.jsp?p_id=16449 Louise On 13 October 2010 17:48, Annie <annandjims@start.ca> wrote: > Dear group. > Would any one know where Dron Perthshire is? > Annie. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear group. Would any one know where Dron Perthshire is? Annie.

Hi Gordon and Mark, Thanks - though while this is all so, and the references and appearances of Muschets in various documents, are really interesting, what I need to find just now are 'my' Muschets, and the only way to do that is to work backwards... so I'm on James who married Agnes McEnzie, according to the births of their children in Tulliallan. I'm speculating he (or his parents in turn) was probably from the Dunblane/Doune area because that's where most Muschets were, but he may have been from elsewhere. So anything about Mushets in the area then gives a point to work from. There are various things out there about earlier Mushets/Muschets you mention - I have seen some of those. The James Muschet (father of Henry) from whom I'm descended may have been a descendant of a servant of a Muschet household, or may have himself descended from one of the Muschet landowning families. However, I can't make leaps there, alas. :) It's a pity the Kincardine by Doune records don't start until 1691! Clearly it was a quite persistent name - I've seen the Montefixo and Montfichet possible derivations. Have to reckon, though, that it may be more likely that most Mushets around later were descendants of servants or even tenants rather than masters... All best, Jenny On 12/10/2010 13:44, Mark Sutherland-Fisher wrote: > Just to add to what Gordon has said, the Mushat/Muschet family were closely > related to the Grahams of Calziemuck in the 1600s and I have also seen them > in Aberdeenshire OPRs in the late 1600s/early 1700s. > Regards, > Mark > -- World's winds bending trees: breaths of all those who have lived flow now on the wind.

Just to add to what Gordon has said, the Mushat/Muschet family were closely related to the Grahams of Calziemuck in the 1600s and I have also seen them in Aberdeenshire OPRs in the late 1600s/early 1700s. Regards, Mark -----Original Message----- From: perthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:perthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Johnson Sent: 12 October 2010 12:48 To: perthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] Mushat, etc. There were Mushats in Dunblane much earlier than you have. The" Visitation of the Diocese of Dunblane, 1586-1589" contains three Mushats in the index at the back. According to Black's "The Surnames of Scotland", this surname comes from a Norman immigrant, William de Montefixo. Perth & Kinross Libraries seem to have a couple of pamphlets on Mushet families. Gordon Johnson

There were Mushats in Dunblane much earlier than you have. The" Visitation of the Diocese of Dunblane, 1586-1589" contains three Mushats in the index at the back. According to Black's "The Surnames of Scotland", this surname comes from a Norman immigrant, William de Montefixo. Perth & Kinross Libraries seem to have a couple of pamphlets on Mushet families. Gordon Johnson Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:27:54 +0100 > From: J Blain<jenny.blain@freeuk.com> > Subject: [PERTHSHIRE] Muschets in Dunblane, Kilmadock and Kincardine > To: perthshire@rootsweb.com > Message-ID:<a06240865c8d8e77bf7e3@[192.168.2.4]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Dear all, > Anybody have any Muschet/ Mushet/ Muschit/ Mushat/ Musket (etc) ancestors? > > Mine seem to have started off in or around the Dunblane and Doune > areas in the late 17th century, then went to Tulliallan where Henry > Muschit was born in 1710. It's the earlier ones I'm interested in - > from Henry on it's pretty well mapped, and I'll be glad to share. (He > went to Ayrshire, but that's another story.)

Dunblane is in Kinross and Perth and Tulliallan is in Central Districts On 10/12/2010 3:00 AM, perthshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Episcopal Records (J Blain) > 2. Muschets in Dunblane, Kilmadock and Kincardine (J Blain) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:13:32 +0100 > From: J Blain<jenny.blain@freeuk.com> > Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] Episcopal Records > To: perthshire@rootsweb.com > Message-ID:<a06240864c8d8d991b538@[192.168.2.4]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Hi Don, > I've only found one - which is St Andrews. > Do you happen to know the volume numbers of any SRS transcriptions on > archive.org relating to Perthshire? > > Jenny > >> The Scottish record Society has published many transcriptions of Episcopal >> Records. >> >> They are available for download from www.archive.org >> <http://www.archive.org/> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 17:27:54 +0100 > From: J Blain<jenny.blain@freeuk.com> > Subject: [PERTHSHIRE] Muschets in Dunblane, Kilmadock and Kincardine > To: perthshire@rootsweb.com > Message-ID:<a06240865c8d8e77bf7e3@[192.168.2.4]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Dear all, > Anybody have any Muschet/ Mushet/ Muschit/ Mushat/ Musket (etc) ancestors? > > Mine seem to have started off in or around the Dunblane and Doune > areas in the late 17th century, then went to Tulliallan where Henry > Muschit was born in 1710. It's the earlier ones I'm interested in - > from Henry on it's pretty well mapped, and I'll be glad to share. (He > went to Ayrshire, but that's another story.) > > Henry's parents were James Muschit and Agnes McEnzie. Now, there's > both a James Muschet and an Agnes McKenzie baptised in Dunblane, but > I haven't found a marriage and think that Agnes is likely to be a > little elderly to be the mother of Henry and his three siblings born > after him. A problem is that the old parochial baptism and marriage > records from Kincardine by Doune, where there seem to be a lot of > Muschets, don't start until 1691, so there are likely to be missing > Muschets there, letting alone the problem that not everybody's > baptisms were registered. > > Thought I would throw this one out to the list, in case anybody else > has an interest. > (Dunblane is now in Stirlingshire, and Tulliallan now in Fife, but > these were previously parts of southern Perthshire!) > > Jenny > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the PERTHSHIRE list administrator, send an email to > PERTHSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PERTHSHIRE mailing list, send an email to PERTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of PERTHSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 129 > ******************************************

Dear all, Anybody have any Muschet/ Mushet/ Muschit/ Mushat/ Musket (etc) ancestors? Mine seem to have started off in or around the Dunblane and Doune areas in the late 17th century, then went to Tulliallan where Henry Muschit was born in 1710. It's the earlier ones I'm interested in - from Henry on it's pretty well mapped, and I'll be glad to share. (He went to Ayrshire, but that's another story.) Henry's parents were James Muschit and Agnes McEnzie. Now, there's both a James Muschet and an Agnes McKenzie baptised in Dunblane, but I haven't found a marriage and think that Agnes is likely to be a little elderly to be the mother of Henry and his three siblings born after him. A problem is that the old parochial baptism and marriage records from Kincardine by Doune, where there seem to be a lot of Muschets, don't start until 1691, so there are likely to be missing Muschets there, letting alone the problem that not everybody's baptisms were registered. Thought I would throw this one out to the list, in case anybody else has an interest. (Dunblane is now in Stirlingshire, and Tulliallan now in Fife, but these were previously parts of southern Perthshire!) Jenny

Hi Don, I've only found one - which is St Andrews. Do you happen to know the volume numbers of any SRS transcriptions on archive.org relating to Perthshire? Jenny >The Scottish record Society has published many transcriptions of Episcopal >Records. > >They are available for download from www.archive.org ><http://www.archive.org/>

Hello Listers I have Episcopal records for Muthill Baptisms from 1697-1886 and can check. Sorry, no marriages or burials. Cheers Pam Beaudesert, Queensland, Australia -

Ryk et al The Scottish record Society has published many transcriptions of Episcopal Records. They are available for download from www.archive.org <http://www.archive.org/> Cheers, Don

In message <mailman.641.1285743657.24964.perthshire@rootsweb.com>, perthshire-request@rootsweb.com writes > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: PERTHSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 122 (John Gibson Chalmers) > 2. Re: PERTHSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 122 (Gresercher@aol.com) > 3. Re: PERTHSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 122 (Ruth Edwards) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 08:29:49 -0500 >From: John Gibson Chalmers <john@chalmers-family.org> >Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] PERTHSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 122 >To: perthshire@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <$fmXDgBN3eoMJwV+@chalmers-family.org> >Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii > > My husband, John Chalmers, was very active in a number of genealogy >forums. I wanted to let everyone know he passed away on Sep 14th. > Regards, > Linda Chalmers > >In message <mailman.603.1285398055.22486.perthshire@rootsweb.com>, >perthshire-request@rootsweb.com writes >> >> >>Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: McDiarmid from Comrie (Jenny .) >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>Message: 1 >>Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 09:05:13 +1000 >>From: "Jenny ." <weblogz@hotmail.com> >>Subject: Re: [PERTHSHIRE] McDiarmid from Comrie >>To: <perthshire@rootsweb.com> >>Message-ID: <BLU131-W9E57CF0909D75335BDBFBA1620@phx.gbl> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> >>Hi All >> >>Some further Scottish records at http://howdiie.com and some interesting >>scottish snippets. >> >>Cheers >> >>Jenny >>> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:48:57 -0400 >>> From: glen@glenbodie.com >>> To: perthshire@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [PERTHSHIRE] McDiarmid from Comrie >>> >>> I saw a few notes recently concerning McDiarmid from Glenturret. I >>>thought I might toss in the McDiarmid family from Comrie area that >>>connects to mine (DEWAR) and who moved to Canada ... just to see if >>>there are any connections: >>> >>> Descendants of Daniel McDiarmid >>> ------------------------------- >>> >>> First Generation >>> >>> 1. Daniel McDiarmid was born about 1755 in Comrie, Perthshire, >>>Scotland. Daniel McDiarmid and Euphon McGrigor were married. >>>Euphon McGrigor was born about 1750 in Comrie, Perthshire, Scotland. >>>Family: >>> +2 i. John McDiarmid, born in 17791; married Mary ? >>> +3 ii. Duncan McDiarmid, born about 1780, Ardtrostan, Comrie, >>>Perthshire, Scotland; >>> married Margaret McGregor, in 1802 or 1803, Comrie, Perthshire, Scotland; >>> married Mary McMillan McPherson, on 5 Mar 1816, Comrie, Perthshire, >>>Scotland; >>> died in 1836, Beckwith Twp, Lanark Co, ON, Canada. >>> 4 iii. Janet McDiarmid was born on 3 Jan 1790. >>> +5 iv. James McDiarmid, born in 1793, Scotland; >>> married ? McNaughton, about 1820; >>> married Susan McDonald, on 26 Jan 1838, Lanark Co, ON, Canada; >>> died in 1880, Beckwith Twp, Lanark Co, ON, Canada. >>> >>> Second Generation >>> >>> 2. John McDiarmid (Daniel-1) was born in 1779. John McDiarmid and >>>Mary ? were married. Mary ? was born in 1779. Family: >>> 6 i. Angus McDiarmid was born in 1816. >>> +7 ii. Peter McDiarmid, born in 1818; >>> married Jane Bridget; >>> died in 1892, Beckwith Twp, >>> Family: Jennie, Annie, John, Peter >>> 8 iii. Mary McDiarmid was born in 1823. >>> >>> 3. Duncan McDiarmid (Daniel-1) was born about 1780 in Ardtrostan, >>>Comrie, Perthshire, Scotland. He died in 1836 in Beckwith Twp, Lanark >>>Co, ON, Canada. Information from writings of Dr. G.E. Kidd: According >>>to family legend, Duncan had a falling out with the Perthshire >>>McDiarmids sometime around his second marriage to Mary, and moved >>>the family to Skye before immigrating to Canada in 1818. He apparently >>>never had contact with them again. On the passenger list of the Brig >>>Curlew he is listed with wife Mary, son John age 1 and daughter >>>Catherine age 12. So far no one has come across evidence of the other >>>children on any passenger list, but they were all here in the Beckwith >>>census of 1820. Duncan McDiarmid and Margaret McGregor were >>>married in 1802 or 1803 in Comrie, Perthshire, Scotland. Margaret >>>McGregor was born about 1780 in Ardtrostan, Comrie, Perthshire, >>>Scotland. She died about 1812 in Ardtrostan, Comrie, Perthshire, >>>Scotland. Family: >>> +9 i. Catherine McDiarmid, born about 1804, Perthshire, Scotland; >>> married Alexander R Kennedy, about 1823, Beckwith Twp, Lanark Co, >>>ON, Canada; >>> died on 17 Jan 1890, Nepean, Carleton Co, ON, Canada. >>> Family: Margaret, Donald, Catherine, Elizabeth, Janet, Christina, >>>Duncan, Mary, >>> Ann, Isabella, Catherine, Marjory Waugh, Ellen, Alexander, John >>> +10 ii. Angus McDiarmid, born about 1806, Perthshire, Scotland; >>> married Annie Livingston, in 1833 or 1835, Beckwith Twp, Lanark Co, >>>ON, Canada; >>> died on 3 Nov 1873, Prospect, Beckwith Twp, Lanark Co, ON, Canada. >>> Family: Duncan, Donald, Peter, John, Janet, Margaret, James, Mary >>> +11 iii. Elizabeth McDiarmid, born about 1807, Perthshire, Scotland; >>> married Alexander Scott, about 1830. >>> Family: Margaret, Janet (Jessie), Mary, Robert, Duncan, Elizabeth, >>>James, Catherine, Alexander >>> +12 iv. Christian McDiarmid, born about 1810; >>> married Robert Kennedy, on 24 Jul 1834, Bathurst Twp, Lanark Co, ON, Canada; >>> died on 26 May 1873, Beckwith Twp, Lanark Co, ON, Canada. >>> Family: Catherine, Margaret, Janet, Mary, Elsabeth, Christina, Amy, Annie >>> +13 v. Peter McDiarmid, born about 1811; >>> married Janet Livingston(e), on 19 Oct 1838, First Presbyterian Church, >>>Perth, Lanark Co, ON, Canada; >>> Family: Janet >>> married Janet McIntosh, on 22 Apr 1842, Beckwith Twp, Lanark Co, ON, Canada; >>> died on 26 Sep 1889, Prospect, Beckwith Twp, Lanark Co, ON, Canada. >>> Family: Elizabeth, Peter, Duncan, Helen Jane, Margaret, Ellen, >>>Alexander, Donald J, >>> Christina, Kate Bella >>> >>> Duncan McDiarmid and Mary McMillan McPherson were married on 5 >>>Mar 1816 in Comrie, Perthshire, Scotland. Mary McMillan McPherson >>>was born about 1798 in Comrie, Perthshire, Scotland. Family: >>> +14 i. John McDiarmid, born in 1817, Comrie, Perthshire, Scotland; >>> married Mary ?; >>> died in 1876, Beckwith Twp, Lanark Co, ON, Canada. >>> Family: Mary, Duncan, Eliza, Emile, Ann, Christina, Catherine >>> +15 ii. Ann McDiarmid, born on 24 Jun 1820, Beckwith Twp, Lanark >>>Co, ON, Canada; >>> married Alexander Ferguson, on 25 Jan 1839, Perth, Lanark Co, ON, Canada; >>> died on 26 Mar 1886, Beckwith Twp, Lanark Co, ON, Canada2. >>> Family: Mary, Robert, Irene Jennet, Duncan, Annie, John, Ewen Alex, Hugh A, >>> Peter J, Alexander, Angus D >>> +16 iii. James McDiarmid, born on 29 Mar 1822, Beckwith Twp, Lanark >>>Co, ON, Canada; >>> married Jane Morphy, in 1840 or 1841, Carleton Place, Lanark Co, ON, Canada; >>> died on 27 Oct 1882, Carleton Place, Lanark Co, ON, Canada2. >>> Family: William, Mary JANE, Duncan S, Matilda, Sarah, James Robert >>> 17 iv. Duncan McDiarmid was born on 2 Apr 1824 in Beckwith Twp, >>>Lanark Co, ON, Canada. >>> +18 v. Donald McDiarmid, born on 13 Mar 1826, Beckwith Twp, Lanark >>>Co, ON, Canada; >>> married Elizabeth McIntosh, on 6 Mar 1847, Bathurst District, ON, Canada; >>> died on 17 Aug 1902, Carleton Place, Lanark Co, ON, Canada. >>> Family: none known >>> 19 vi. Hugh McDiarmid was born on 25 Aug 1829 in Beckwith Twp, >>>Lanark Co, ON, Canada. >>> He died in Toronto, York Co, ON, Canada. >>> >>> 5. James McDiarmid (Daniel-1) was born in 1793 in Scotland. He died >>>in 1880 in Beckwith Twp, Lanark Co, ON, Canada. James McDiarmid >>>and ? McNaughton were married about 1820. ? McNaughton was born >>>about 1795 in Scotland. She died in 1837 in Beckwith Twp, Lanark Co, >>>ON, Canada. Family: >>> 20 i. Catherine McDiarmid was born in 1826. >>> 21 ii. Angus McDiarmid was born in 1826. >>> 22 iii. Donald McDiarmid was born in 1830. >>> 23 iv. Duncan McDiarmid was born in 1833. >>> 24 v. Susan McDiarmid was born in 1834. >>> 25 vi. Ann McDiarmid was born in 1837. >>> >>> James McDiarmid and Susan McDonald were married on 26 Jan 1838 >>>in Lanark Co, ON, Canada. Susan McDonald was born in 1807 in >>>Scotland. She died on 18 Jan 1894 in Beckwith Twp, Lanark Co, ON, >>>Canada. Family: >>> 26 i. Christina McDiarmid was born in 1840. >>> +27 ii. John McDiarmid, born on 24 Feb 1845, Beckwith Twp, Lanark >>>Co, ON, Canada; >>> married Emily Code Robertson, on 14 Oct 1881, Drummond Twp, >>>Lanark Co, ON, Canada; >>> died in 1919. >>> Family: Daniel, Robert, James, Annie, John Frederick >>> 28 iii. Isabella McDiarmid was born in 1847. >>> >>> ------------------------------- END ----------------------------- >>> >>> Regards - Glen C. 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Hello Group, Does anyone know if there was any Episcopal congregation in the area of Balquhidder, Comrie, Callander or Kilmadock parishes during the latter 18th century and throughout the 19th century? I know there is an Episcopal church near Edinample that dates to the early 20th century. And the OPR for Callander contains a listing of Episcopal baptisms from within its bounds for the mid-18th century. But we can find no record of any Episcopal presence in-between. Did the Episcopal community simply disappear and then reappear 150 years later or was there some continuing presence elsewhere? If so, does anyone know if any of its BMD records survive? Thanks for any help. Ryk Brown Stewarts of Balquhidder Research Group

I checked the Scottish Church Records and there are no Betsy Findlays. There are a great number of Elizabeth/Elspet Findlays but only one in 1823, and she is christened in Elgin, Moray, Scotland. I checked for ten years on each side of 1823 and couldn't find any born in Cortachy, Angus. I would be checking her marriage record first to see the name of the father. Happy Hunting, Margo McKinstry SLC, Utah -----Original Message----- From: perthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:perthshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of perthshire-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 1:01 AM To: perthshire@rootsweb.com Subject: PERTHSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 126 Today's Topics: 1. Betsy Findlay..?? (alibell@tiscali.co.uk) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 12:41:22 +0100 From: <alibell@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: [PERTHSHIRE] Betsy Findlay..?? To: <perthshire-L@rootsweb.com>, <gray-L@rootsweb.com>, <angus-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <A6708D85F3E34CD599F91F800D67C0EF@alistairir1s2o> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, I seem to have an un-connected person on my Gray Family Tree. Betsy Findlay born about 1823 Cortachy Angus. Any help..?? Alistair Bell. ------------------------------ To contact the PERTHSHIRE list administrator, send an email to PERTHSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the PERTHSHIRE mailing list, send an email to PERTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of PERTHSHIRE Digest, Vol 5, Issue 126 ****************************************** NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

Hi, I seem to have an un-connected person on my Gray Family Tree. Betsy Findlay born about 1823 Cortachy Angus. Any help..?? Alistair Bell.