Looks like a version of Mary or Marjory to me: Mairi? Mhairi? Marslaidh? Maireagh? Sheila On 2/12/2011 3:52 PM, Ranald McIntyre wrote: > I am researching the McIntyre in and around Balquhidder. > > I have come across the following, but what could the first name be ? > > *Mwriache* Makintyir > > That person would have been living in 1590. > >

Tammy Re my earlier reply to your posting. I had a look at the www.rootsireland.ie site and see that the records for Dublin City have not yet been transcribed. Sorry, Rhoda

Tammy Try this site: http://www.rootsireland.ie/ It is a pay site and payment is in Euros. I have found some of my Irish ancestors on the site. The other option is the Irish bmd records on Family Search https://www.familysearch.org/ Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tammy Mitchell" <ancestry@ripandrevmedia.ca> To: <perthshire@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 6:27 PM Subject: [PERTHSHIRE] Marriage 1840 Hugh Mitchell & Jemima Calder > Hi Listers! > > Mitchell's of Redgorton, Perth, and some history (and questions): > ~~originally sent to Dublin list (and Yorkshire and Midlothian)~~ > > Hi Dublin and Yorkshire Listers, > (I've sent this to a few lists, I know people in the Midlothian list may > have seen these names before.) > > I've stopped in because it has come to my attention that Hugh Mitchell > married Jemima Calder on 2 July 1840 in Dublin Ireland. (or about then, > the info came from a family bible) > >

Thank you, I was just about to go there. I guess the next thing would be to figure out where they lived somehow, and see what church they might have gone to. Thanks again Tammy On 08/02/2011 1:33 PM, CandROverson wrote: > Tammy > > Re my earlier reply to your posting. I had a look at the www.rootsireland.ie > site and see that the records for Dublin City have not yet been transcribed. > > Sorry, > > Rhoda > > > > When replying to a message or a digest, please delete everything except the portion to which you are replying. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To Bruce, I hope Sheila manages to use the site you mention, as there is so much information. (I copy your link below). http://geo.nls.uk/os6inch/ I have not been to that site for years, many thanks for the reminder. Ranald On 7 February 2011 21:53, b.f.chalmers <bcha@clara.net> wrote: > > > >On 07/02/2011 18:18, S Tryk wrote: > > > Does anyone have any idea where Ferrachill is? It's supposedly in Weem, > > > but I can't find it on my maps. > > > Sheila >

Hi Listers! Mitchell's of Redgorton, Perth, and some history (and questions): Information about Hugh and Jemima Calder. Hugh was born in: Bullions Boat, Luncanty, Redgorton, Perth, Scotland in 1810 although some dates have him born abt 1815. (and later). To parents John Mitchell and Janet Mitchell (maiden name most likely Faicheny/Faichney/Fachney) Jemima Calder was born to Thomas Calder and Joanna Nimmo in Edinburgh about 1821-ish (I have not been able to find her birth on Scotland's people, but did find her parents marriage and her older brother George Calder born to the couple in 1813. I believe I have more information on each of these people's ancestors. The issue is, because I can't find Jemima Calder's birth record at Scotlandspeople, I need to get a look at their marriage record from Dublin. ~~originally sent to Dublin list (and Yorkshire and Midlothian)~~ Hi Dublin and Yorkshire Listers, (I've sent this to a few lists, I know people in the Midlothian list may have seen these names before.) I've stopped in because it has come to my attention that Hugh Mitchell married Jemima Calder on 2 July 1840 in Dublin Ireland. (or about then, the info came from a family bible) That is all I know about the marriage. I'm here to ask if anyone can help me find that record, or point me to where I might find it. I am also looking for resident info (see end). Hugh's occupation in Yorkshire was Warehouseman (stuff) I have found him on the 1851 England census, where they lived at: 7 St Judis Place, Manningham, Yorkshire. A little more info: They had 5 children born in Dublin Ireland, they were: Thomas Mitchell b. 1841 Jemima Mitchell b. 1843 John Mitchell b. 1845 Jessie Mitchell b. 1847 Emily Helen Mitchell b. 1848 They also had two children born in Yorkshire England Stillborn Mitchell 1852 Louisa Johanna Mitchell 1853 Information about Hugh and Jemima Calder. Hugh was born in: Bullions Boat, Luncanty, Redgorton, Perth, Scotland in 1810 although some dates have him born abt 1815. (and later). To parents John Mitchell and Janet Mitchell (maiden name most likely Faicheny/Faichney/Fachney) Jemima Calder was born to Thomas Calder and Joanna Nimmo in Edinburgh about 1821-ish (I have not been able to find her birth on Scotland's people, but did find her parents marriage and her older brother George Calder born to the couple in 1813. I believe I have more information on each of these people's ancestors. The issue is, because I can't find Jemima Calder's birth record at Scotlandspeople, I need to get a look at their marriage record from Dublin. If anyone can point me to any name/address residence records for Dublin 1839-1850 that might help me too. I thank you all in advance. Tammy Mitchell BC, Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> >On 07/02/2011 18:18, S Tryk wrote: > > Does anyone have any idea where Ferrachill is? It's supposedly in Weem, > > but I can't find it on my maps. > > Sheila I hope this gets to correct place as I have lost the original query about Ferrachill so could not reply directly Sheila If you go to this site http://geo.nls.uk/os6inch/ its a 6inch to one mile of Scotland 1840's to 1880's and zoom in to the area to the south west of Aberfeldy there a "Lower Farrochel" and a "Upper Farrochel" shown also a "Farrochel Burn" If you zoom in to the maximum each farm is shown to building level etc. If you haven't used this site before - it shows a complete map of Scotland and then select the Magnifying glass with the red square round it to draw a rectangle around the Aberfeldy area then click the + Mag. glass (without the red square) and move your mouse to the map and click on it and a new zoomed map is drawn of the area. Keep doing this and use the arrows symbols till you find where you want to be. Apologies if are familiar with this map. Regards Bruce

Sheila, 77on the OS62 map 2002, there are two dwellings adjacent to the name Farrochill. Ferrochill is situated on a minor road/track which curves to the west, from the A826 road in Aberfeldy, to join the A827 Aberfeldy to Kenmore road just over a mile from Aberfeldy. The A827 is to the south of the River Tay Weem, as you may know, is on the B846 road just to the north of Aberfeldy, and to the north of the River Tay. Neither Google nor Bing maps show the area in detail, although Google camera shows the road entrance to the minor road to Farrochill. I see that while typing this message, you have received another, giving the grid reference. Regards Ranald On 7 February 2011 18:18, S Tryk <wombat@ecarthage.com> wrote: > Does anyone have any idea where Ferrachill is? It's supposedly in Weem, > but I can't find it on my maps. > Sheila >

My modern map shows Farrochill about a mile west of Aberfeldy, up the hillside to the south of the A827 - grid reference 836483. I strongly suspect that's what you're looking for. Arthur On 07/02/2011 18:18, S Tryk wrote: > Does anyone have any idea where Ferrachill is? It's supposedly in Weem, > but I can't find it on my maps. > Sheila

Many thanks to all who pinpointed Farrochel for me. I'd never have found it otherwise. And thank you for the map references, too. Sheila

McGregor. Would anyone be researching the McGregor family from near Dalinlongart, Argyll, Scotland? Dalinlongart is near Dunoon. Thanks. Annie.

Does anyone have any idea where Ferrachill is? It's supposedly in Weem, but I can't find it on my maps. Sheila

Peter - the word "Commissioner" was also used for lay representatives to the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland. Burghs sent a commissioner each to participate in the discussions at that annual body. The reason I could be so definite about him not going to parliament as a commissioner is that I consulted the standard work "The Parliaments of Scotland: Burgh & Shire Commissioners" (2 vols), Scottiah Academic Press, 1992. It is an excellent work, full of plenty of accurate bibliographical source references for each individual. Gordon. On 07/02/2011 08:00, perthshire-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > According to the history of Inverkeithing and Rosyth, by Rev Wm Stephen, > 1921, as well as a couple of other photocopies , Fasti Ecclesiati ....George > was a Commissioner, but maybe not..... >

AHA! As this George was from a line of a t least two clerics I suspect he was the latter! Peter

Peter - long time no hear! Dunkeld was indeed a Commissary Court, and so he would have held that post. Commissioners were the old name for representatives who sat in the Scottish parliament up to 1707, but there never was a Pitcairn who sat in the Scottish parliament as a commissioner. Have you consulted "The History of Fife Pitcairns, with transcripts from old charters", by Constance Pitcairn, published 1905? I have a copy on CD-ROM from Archive CD Books. Gordon Johnson. Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 12:22:47 EST, Peter wrote: > One of my ancestors, an Alexander Pitcairn, was commissioner, or even > commissary of Dunkeld in the 1740s. Does anyone know what this was? > > thanks > > Peter (de Loriol) >

Hello Gordon! I sometimes see your name crop up on the Medieval list! According to the history of Inverkeithing and Rosyth, by Rev Wm Stephen, 1921, as well as a couple of other photocopies , Fasti Ecclesiati ....George was a Commissioner, but maybe not..... I am also having trouble with the ancestry of the same George Pitcairn, father-in-law of my ancestor John Cunningham of Ballindalloch/Bandalloch. I think that there is a generation adrift (I do have some Pitcairn documents including an inherited pedigree dated 1796).....It might indeed be interesting to find the ancestry, two generations back and whether his wife was indeed a Weir of Blackwood - I do know of this wonderful tome you have .... Until recently I knew nothing of Jean Ogilvie, wife of my forebear, Lt col James Cunningham (1722-1793), of the Scots Brigade in Holland. I started doing a little digging and found that they had married in Tannadice, not too far from Dunkeld and within its boundaries. She was a widow - they married in 1763 (27/11), she is described as relict of Duncan Robertson, of Easter Memus, and as Mrs Jean Ogilvie. Unfortunately the registers fro that area , especially during the '45, are scant and I can't find anything more about her. The arae was the heartland of the Ogilvies and finding the right 'gentle' Ogilvie family may be like the proverbial needle. I am considering joining the Tayside Family history society to see if they can help...any ideas? regards Peter

Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Gordon Johnson <gordon@kinhelp.co.uk> wrote: > Peter - long time no hear! > Dunkeld was indeed a Commissary Court, and so he would have held that > post. Commissioners were the old name for representatives who sat in the > Scottish parliament up to 1707, but there never was a Pitcairn who sat > in the Scottish parliament as a commissioner. > Have you consulted "The History of Fife Pitcairns, with transcripts from > old charters", by Constance Pitcairn, published 1905? I have a copy on > CD-ROM from Archive CD Books. > Gordon Johnson. > > Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 12:22:47 EST, Peter wrote: >> One of my ancestors, an Alexander Pitcairn, was commissioner, or even >> commissary of Dunkeld in the 1740s. Does anyone know what this was? >> >> thanks >> >> Peter (de Loriol) >> > > When replying to a message or a digest, please delete everything except the portion to which you are replying. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Peter Have you tried Googling it? Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: <PDeloriol@aol.com> To: <PERTHSHIRE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 5:22 PM Subject: [PERTHSHIRE] Commissioner/Commissary > One of my ancestors, an Alexander Pitcairn, was commissioner, or even > commissary of Dunkeld in the 1740s. Does anyone know what this was? > > thanks > > Peter (de Loriol) > When replying to a message or a digest, please delete everything except > the portion to which you are replying. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PERTHSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

One of my ancestors, an Alexander Pitcairn, was commissioner, or even commissary of Dunkeld in the 1740s. Does anyone know what this was? thanks Peter (de Loriol)

"Realtors have an axiom — location, location, and location. The genealogical corollary to that is — documentation, documentation, and documentation." Both use films and fiche are not automatically primary, but the GROS have the originals, the primary sources 'While there are a growing amount of Internet databases which provide access to scanned images of original documents, the vast majority of genealogy information on the Web comes from derivative sources - records which have been derived (copied, abstracted, transcribed, or summarized) from previously existing, original sources. Understanding the difference between these different types of sources will help you best assess how to verify the information that you find.' _http://genealogy.about.com/od/basics/a/verifying_2.htm_ (http://genealogy.about.com/od/basics/a/verifying_2.htm) film and fiche must be compared with the original to verify it as a true copy. I did for a fair amount straining the relationship of the GROS staff. I had to be escorted upstairs, but looked at 5-10%, and found signatures missing on the films, but many had no signature or the amount given to the poor on a small amount of records. 1. the LDS had no permission to look at the other religions, just the Presbyterian 2. indexes are only the Established church (Presbyterian) are done by Scots know names (surname, forename, places) so there are fewer errors in their index. Names are more standardized. You may ask the GROS to correct, which they do if you have proof, they will add a corrected record, and the index there is a non-conformist index at the NAS, and at the original church The IGI doesn't get corrections on either the index or on their films. _http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ChurchRecords.html_ (http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/ChurchRecords.html) 3. The index on the GROS gets added to if more parish records are found (occasionally some may show up in an attic, antique shops, and they added the Catholic records now. The LDS only filmed once, so it is out of date. I found a larger range of years, and at least one parish that the LDS never filmed. Don't ask me which it was, it was in Moray, that's all I remember. (my memory was affected by the strokes I suffered) 4. Submissions are guesswork through well documented but the LDS has no standards of genealogy proof, I used the old website which had both records transcribed, with submissions. I could search for all children born to a couple, I can no longer do that, so find their website of no help at all. They violated my copyright, and rather than work with me, just said 'go ahead and sue, you against a church! Don't make me laugh. 5. Anyone having trouble with handwriting, can get help with anything on the GROS website. The LDS are good hearted volunteers, but none of them can help with reading a place name. GROS have frequently told me, that place was here, but now it's called this.) The GROS workers are professionals, and the LDS are well-intentioned volunteers. Those who are not as lucky as I, and who not as insane as I doing an entire surname (Powrie) can often only afford to use the local LDS centers and their films and index, but adding minister and doctor records, all the census, business directories, FHS (family history societies, with the backbone of the GROS records and index will find perhaps 10 times the records in Scotland, than at Salt Lake city. websites are grand! But if you care enough to get primary sources, and believe that each of us must gather everything, properly evaluate and document properly with repositories, books on local, national and world history to put our ancestors in proper context, you need Scots who know Scots people and places. You must at the very least, use the GROS index, you may need to buy a ticket to Scotland! If you have Anglican or Methodist. You won't find them on either, but you will now find catholic ones. I had a family who were Dean and Chalmers Free Church, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. You all know how hard some records may be, but it could because you are going the wrong way. Books are my greatest teachers, along with members of this list, like Gordon, who are the real experts. _http://used.addall.com/_ (http://used.addall.com/) the little photo books with pictures of the carse of Gowrie are great fun. I found in one a photo of the Blackwatch unit that a relative was in, before he died in 1899, in the Boer war. I put many on my facebook page, where I've connected with many other Powries. There are almost 300 on the social network, and I learned a Powrie or dunter is a kind of elf. Trolling the Internet has connected me with many others...Powries, not elfs. Where's the path, is now my fav mapping program but I'm on the GROS website every couple of days. (wish they had stock! I might be rich instead of still spending. I found a cousin who is a professional researcher, doing small tours to special locations, and she's a Scots Master Travel agent, so I can come over again, and my daughter Jameela is learning the hobby, she can come with me and push my wheelchair! _http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm_ (http://wtp2.appspot.com/wheresthepath.htm) _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redcap) When looking for a Scot, use Scottish sources! They're the "Real McCoy"!