Greeting 'Listers' I've resubscribed after quite a long break. My surname interests are: CRAIGIE, McRORIE/McRORY, McGREGOR, DAVIDSON. Canal Crescent and South St. Perth feature in their story. Any links? Thankyou for your assistance, Margaret Skeen Victoria AUSTRALIA

I am trying to find the famly connection for William Duncan III, who was born in Dumfrieshire, Perth, Scotland on 19 Apr 1694, was m. 11 Feb 1722 in Orange Co., Virginia, USA, and d. Oct 1781 in Culpepper Co., Virginia. His father is said to be another William Duncan, b. 10 Jan 1659, in Perth, Scotland; m. 24 June 1682, and d. 1720 in Culpepper, Culpepper Co, Virginia, USA. Researchers I have heard from negate the relationship to the Rev Wm Duncan who was a minister in Glasgow but he had a grandson, William, who is believed to have died in Scotland and who I believe immigrated to the USA without leaving word or they denied him. These records have been verified in Virginia and all of us come up with the same info. Please help someone. Mavis

Hi Helen. There's a Park Place in Craigie - to the south west of the old city of Perth on my map. I don't see a Park Street though. There are a number of other Park "somethings" in Perthshire, but not a Park Street, and not in Perth city. Hope this helps. Fiona in Wellington, New Zealand (where I can confirm Helen's comment that it's wet !) >Hi, Could someone please tell me what area in Perthshire Park street is in? >I sent a letter to a H. SLATER in that Street and it was returned to me as >INSUFFICIENT ADDRESS. Can anyone help? Helen in wet NZ > > >

-----Original Message----- From: ANDREW WALLACE [mailto:andrew_s_wallace@msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:15 PM To: PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} SLATER Address Hi Helen. Suggest you try "H. Slater, 13 Park Place (not 'Street') PERTH, PH2 0HB" Regards, Andy (in a colder and wetter Fife, Scotland!) >X-Message: #2 Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 12:16:55 +1300 From: "Helen McNamara" >To: PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: ><021601c3ffe3$4a312660$ed6e7cca@Jenkins> Subject: [PERTH] perthshire areas >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: >7bit > >Hi, Could someone please tell me what area in Perthshire Park street is in? >I sent a letter to a H. SLATER in that Street and it was returned to me as >INSUFFICIENT ADDRESS. Can anyone help? Helen in wet NZ > >______________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband

Hi, Could someone please tell me what area in Perthshire Park street is in? I sent a letter to a H. SLATER in that Street and it was returned to me as INSUFFICIENT ADDRESS. Can anyone help? Helen in wet NZ

JAMES MACFARLANE and GRIZEL or GRACE THOMSON were married on 16 Jan 1819 in Dull, Perth. They had the following children, HELEN chr 10 Dec 1819 Dull ANN chr 26 Oct 1821 Dull JAMES chr 25 Oct 1824 Dull ALEXR chr 12 Nov 1825 Dull MARGT chr 12 Aug 1829 Dull PETER chr 28 May 1832 Dull GRIZEL (GRACE) chr 16 Jul 1836 Dull. Would appreciate hearing from anyone interested in this family or who may be able to give more information about them ? Thanks, Ian

helen, i use uk streetmap or multimap. you can choose GB place and chose village or choose street and zoom in and out. some have aerial photos for large cities with the camera button. I use the advanced for building address with town Perth. I have even put in Powrie castle, Dundee and Balruddery Farm, Inchture and written them. I then got an old map which shows that area at Tay Valley Family History Center, or the parish boundaries of Dundee at a local public library so try A K Bell in Perth or Abertay Historical. It should also give you the postal code or you can use the Royal Mail website. Mary

i think the book old Blairgowrie and rattray in pictures has views of High Street. The little book is still available but I would be happy to scan or copy anything for you. I love the little village and visiting during berry season makes my mouth water even now! there is a family history center in the library that can tell you more. I am sure they know of more town history and living rellies. hope this helps, mary in Oregon by Maurice Fleming ISBN 1 84033 008 2 partial list blairgowrie cottage hospital high street looking east, news agent j.s. stewart john fleming junior, the cross (high street and Allan street crosses) grocer P.J. Robertson 61 High Street Pat Roberton propriietor, grocer & wine Blairgowrie co-operative society ltd., royal and queen hotel wellmeadow so named for because of springs and wells Bank buildings and part of high street decorated for king edward VII visiy in 1908 Scotts wines and spirits, george halson's tea rooms and bakery Blairgowrie bowling green, golf at Rosemount J.B. Grieve, Drapery High Street Blairgowrie High School Allan Street, James Richardson, tearoom, William Low, Grocer, C. Scott and son, tailors (the Low chain grew ery large and was taken over by giant Tesco) Robert Cargills grocers shop corner of Leslie and Allan Street) William Smith was one of four butcher shops before WW II Allan Paul Millner John Kerr, and D.E. shoe shop http://www.scottish-towns.co.uk/perthshire/blairgowrie/ LOOK AT THE Link to the genealogy.....and a photo of those Berries!!!

Hi Listers For those interested in a bit of humour or Scottish Trivia or Anything Scottish I have added a "Scottish Trivia Forum" to my webpage at Clan McLean Connections http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Canyon/6387 Anyone with an interest in trivia are invited to contribute Regards Doug McLean (Australia) Missing McLean List http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Canyon/6387/MissingMcLeanList.html Missing Spicer and Froggett List: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Canyon/6387/MissingSpicerFroggett.html

I am desperate to find a DAVID BROWN last listed at 333 High Street Perth in 1881, ocupation Tailor. He had two sisters, Margaret Doig Brown and Elizabeth Brown. Janet New Zealand

I have located my ggg grandparents James McNab b 1800 and Janet Ewan born 1820 (Ewing) in the 1851 Census of Crieff Perth. I am looking for any information on this family, but I am also trying to understand how the housing was done at this point. Their address is listed as "New Flus" East of King st. Then listed as House #1, House #2 and each house has about 3 families in them. Can anyone tell me what type of area this is and what the house might have looked like. They were Weavers of cotton if this helps. Thanks for any help Brenda Brampton, Ontario

Hi Everyone, Please see story in the Feb 26 Dundee Courier at : <http://www.thecourier.co.uk/output/2004/02/26/newsstory5659675t0.asp> Regards Jonathan in Toronto, Ontario, Canada

How does one download a will in Perth around the area of Wellshill? Iris of New Zealand

I am wanting to find info on Mrs A CHISTIE and Mrs G BUTTAR who lived, prior to 1986 at Arnwood Migle Road Alyth Blairgowrie. Family legend tells us that these two were distant cousins and I would love to reconnect with any descendants. Hope someone can help. Jean

Hello David, I have a Mellis connection from Cargill, in-laws of my g.g.aunt Jane Donald. Perhaps your James Mellis was a brother of my John Mellis (married to Elizabeth Young): (1) 1 John MELLIS d. bef 1879 & Elizabeth YOUNG d. aft 1879 m. 10 Jul 1836, Cargill, Perth, Scotland | (2) 1 Mary MELLIS | b. 15 Feb 1837, St Martins, Perth, Scotland | (2) 2 Thomas MELLIS | b. 11 Feb 1839, St Martins, Perth, Scotland | (2) 3 James Young MELLIS | b. 13 Dec 1845, St Martins, Perth, Scotland | d. 1918, Perth, Scotland | & Jane Aitchison DONALD | b. 1 Apr 1849, Kinrossie, Perth, Scotland | d. 13 Mar 1934, Comely Bank House, Strathmore Street, Kinnoull, Perth, Scotland | ch. 16 Apr 1849, Rev. Ritchie, Minister; Registered Collace, Perth, Scotland | m. 18 Aug 1879, 26 York Place, Perth, Perth, Scotland | | (3) 1 Albert "Bert" John MELLIS | | b. 28 Dec 1879, Perth, Perth, Scotland | | d. 15 Mar 1937, 32 Canal Street, Perth, Perth, Scotland | | (3) 2 Frederick "Fred" William MELLIS | | b. 11 Jun 1882, Perth, Perth, Scotland | | d. 12 Feb 1952 | | & Isobel "Bella" Brewster HARRIS | | b. Apr 1884 | | d. aft 1930 | | m. about 1913? | | (3) 3 Jemima MELLIS | | b. 12 Apr 1889, Perth, Perth, Scotland | | d. 29 Apr 1962 | | (3) 4 James MELLIS | | b. aft 1891 | (2) 4 John MELLIS | b. 28 Aug 1851, St Martins, Perth, Scotland | d. ? | & Elizabeth J., Wife Of John MELLIS | b. abt 1853, Guthrie, Forfar, Scotland | d. ? | | (3) 1 Isabella J. MELLIS | | b. abt 1878, Dundee, Forfar, Scotland | | (3) 2 David MELLIS | | b. abt Jan 1881, Dundee, Forfar, Scotland >Hello Listers, >I've down-loaded the will of one of my GGG grandparents, James Mellis a >shoemaker, who died in 1870, and I wonder if anyone can help me with some >queries. > >He resided in Stobhall in the Parish of Cargill. >Can anyone tell me anything about Stobhall in the Parish of Cargill? >Is it a house or hamlet? Does it still exist? > >In his will he named his wife as Margaret COLLEY. >But in his inventory she is named as Margaret MCCOLLOCH. >(actual quote: At the Union Bank of Scotland in Perth in name of James >MELLIS deceased and Mrs Margaret McColloch or Mellis, Cargill, payable to >either of them or the surviver of them =A3 51/1/2) >Can anyone account for her 2 names - Margaret Colley and >Margaret McColloch? > >The next item in his inventory is another bank account, this time solely >to the credit of Margaret McColloch or Mellis. > >Should I assume she had already died? (And he hadn't transferred >the money into his name.) > >Or did her money belong to him in Scots law? > >Is any other lister researching MELLIS in Cargill? >The deponent for the will was David MELLIS shoemaker, son of James MELLIS. > >David >Weymouth, Dorset

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Hello Listers, In another will I have down-loaded, this time for William MCCINTOSH, another of my GGG grandparents, it states that he resided at Welses near Burrelton in the Parish of Cargill, Perthshire. Can anyone tell me anything about Welses near Burrelton in the Parish of Cargill? I've found it on maps. I guess it is/was a farm since in the inventory of William McIntosh, who resided there and died 1862, he had cattle, horses and crops. I have very little more on him (I think his wife was Robina Swan). The deponent for the will was his son, William McIntosh, cabinet maker. Anyone else researching McIntosh in Cargill. I'd be grateful for any information. David Weymouth, Dorset

Hello Listers, I've down-loaded the will of one of my GGG grandparents, James Mellis a shoemaker, who died in 1870, and I wonder if anyone can help me with some queries. He resided in Stobhall in the Parish of Cargill. Can anyone tell me anything about Stobhall in the Parish of Cargill? Is it a house or hamlet? Does it still exist? In his will he named his wife as Margaret COLLEY. But in his inventory she is named as Margaret MCCOLLOCH. (actual quote: At the Union Bank of Scotland in Perth in name of James MELLIS deceased and Mrs Margaret McColloch or Mellis, Cargill, payable to either of them or the surviver of them £ 51/1/2) Can anyone account for her 2 names - Margaret Colley and Margaret McColloch? The next item in his inventory is another bank account, this time solely to the credit of Margaret McColloch or Mellis. Should I assume she had already died? (And he hadn't transferred the money into his name.) Or did her money belong to him in Scots law? Is any other lister researching MELLIS in Cargill? The deponent for the will was David MELLIS shoemaker, son of James MELLIS. David Weymouth, Dorset

Barbara, What was their surname, as I also have this address. Ian Orwin -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Black [mailto:barbarablack@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 22 February 2004 20:47 To: PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PERTH] Address in 1881 census Thank you to all who replied; it confirms what I suspected that Jas White's Land was a tenement building. I now understand from the replies to this list and to others that this terminology was often used to describe a tenement owned by an individual and would, therefore, be in use throughout Scotland. Many thanks for all your help. Barbara ==== PERTHSHIRE Mailing List ==== Footer: The Perthshire Mailing List is for the exchange of genealogical and historical information about the Perthshire area of Scotland. http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/PERTHSHIRE.html

Thank you to all who replied; it confirms what I suspected that Jas White's Land was a tenement building. I now understand from the replies to this list and to others that this terminology was often used to describe a tenement owned by an individual and would, therefore, be in use throughout Scotland. Many thanks for all your help. Barbara