This inscription was also in Longforgan: Erected by James MATTHEW, Inchture in memory of his spouse Margaret RODGER who died the 26th January 1867 aged 53 years. I have a remote connection to this couple but am not related. Regards Elaine

Hi List I noted the following inscriptions from Longforgan Kirkyard as I was passing at the weekend. I would be interested if anyone sees a connection. Erected by Mary DUFF in memory of her beloved husband James CRAIG who died 6th June 1899 aged 60 years and of her daughter Mary Ann, wife of Wm LOW died 27th July 1891 aged 30 years. Alice LOW their daughter died 26th October 1899 aged 18 years. Ann TAYLOR or DUFF her mother died 13th July 1869 aged 69 years. John DUFF her father died 25th November 1884 aged 84 years. John DUFF her brother died 27th March 1876 aged 30 years. Also her grandson William LOW died 7th June 1917 aged 29 years. The above Mary DUFF died 6th November 1920 aged 80 years. Erected by David Robertson DUFF in loving memory of his father George DUFF who died 18th February 1902 aged 72 years and his mother Janet STEWART who died 13th October 1902 aged 63 years. The above David Robertson DUFF died 12th April 1939 aged 65. Regards Elaine

Hello All At last took the time this weekend to do some research at "Scotlandspeople" and thought I had found a connection when I found the marriage of Robert MITCHELL and Isabella CLARK in Montrose in 1878. However,I checked information supplied some years ago by an aunt who wrote as follows:- "ROBERTSON - SIDE Great great grandfather came from Blairgowrie,Perthshire,to Dundee,was a master baker.Had a baker shop in Blairgowrie and then one in the Overport,Dundee. G.g.grandmother was a Margaret Mitchell(died 75 yrs) - She had a sister - Mary Anne - unmarried,died when over 80.Also another sister Ann who died aged 15yrs. On Mitchell side - several members of the family emigrated to America - lost touch. You have 2nd cousin Lena (Mitchell) Nairn and Margaret (Mitchell) Ritchie.Lena lives in Arbroath and Margaret nr Montrose. On g.g.grandfather's side said to have come from Balqhuider/Struan area.Ancestor burried a few graves from Rob Roy MacGregor at Balqhuider." I believe I recall someone else on this list having a similar/same claim within the last few months.Please contact me if you see any connection. Douglas

Hi I'am reposting my interest's and want help finding details on a John Moncrieff married Margaret Retson in Comrie Perthshire on July 25th 1902 Margaret was the daughter of George Retson & Elizabeth Pagan John died on Jan 10th 1910 in Comrie Margaret remarried a Wood,Woods or Woodward and moved to Edinburgh also info on John sister Betty/Elizabeth Moncrieff born about 1907 in Comrie? any help on them or relatives please John Moncrieff jbmoncrieff@tiscali.co.uk

Hello All Spending the day online with "Scotlandspeople" trying to confirm family over late 1700's to early 1800's. For some years I have been looking for the "SHARP" in Margaret Sharp CLARK b 31/5/1867.I believe she is the granddaughter of David CLARK and Margaret TAYLOR m.18/07/1823 in Findogask. Their first child,James ,was born a month later on 23 Aug 1823 in Auchterarder.I believe I have located Margaret's parents as being John TAYLOR and Isabel SHARP of Auchterarder.Margaret was born 13 Feb 1803.All this now ties in comfortably with the 1881 census where Margaret(78) b Auchterarder,is living with her daughter Isabella(50) in Shuttlefield,Newburgh ,Fife. However I was previously led to believe something slightly different from someone researching TAYLOR when they said Margaret's parents were Thomas Taylor and Helen Kinnis from Moneydie and David's parents were Alexander CLARK and Lillas MILLER of Fowlis Easter. I am sure everyone is confused enough by now but I have one question - where is Kirkcaldy? This will assist me with the 1798 marriage between an Alexander CLARK and Jean SHARP. Public holiday here tomorrow so I intend using up the rest of my credits. Douglas Clark

Alan Thom Thank you for the information, it was most helpful. I was wodering if Parish Records could give me information on the Marriage and Death of ANDREW PULLAR Born 1836 in Perth. Or if he is in any of the Scottish Census. I have a Webtv which is not a complete computer, and have tried paying for the Census, However Webtv does not have the capacity to vue the ducuments. My BIG stumbling block is trying to determine who the parents of my ggrandfather JOHN PULLAR are . He was born in Perth 1808 or 1811 He Moved to Ashton in Makerfield Lancashire, Approx. 1850 There were two other PULLARS there at that time farming ( Also from Perth) WILLIAM and ANDREW. I am trying to figure out if these were his brothers. They show up in the 1851 and 1861 Census as Married, but no wife or children in the household. I have just found a record of 'Note of Probate' for the will of WILLIAM 1862 in the Court of Edinburgh. Any help would be most appreciated. Kind regards Margaret Simpson

Does anyone have Parish Records for Forfar Angus I am looking for the children of JOHN PULLAR / MARY LANGLANDS Married Tibbermore, Dec 09 1835. BMD's ANDREW GRAY PULLAR B 15/8/1836 JANET PULLAR B 21/2/1846 JOSEPH PULLAR B. 1849 Kind regards, Margaret Simpson

Dear Listers, I have tried without success to access the ANGU-L @rootsweb. Maybe it is because I use Webtv . However I have no problem with this site. I am trying to find out if it is possible to find Obituaries for ANDREW PULLAR , Farm of Ladenford , Forfar, 23/5/1859 (date of Will) Also : CHARLES PULLAR, Farmer at FORDIE in Parish of Caputh 28/3/1861 ( Date of Will) Kind regards, Margaret Simpson

Details of some of the Births and Baptisms in the Parish of Moulin between 1830 and 1832. Listed as follows: Date of Birth, Date of Baptism, Child’s Name, Parents’ Names, marital type where living. If there is a question mark it’s because I can’t read the writing. Those marked * are my husband’s ancestors. Happy hunting! August 7th 1830 ? Donald FORBES Donald FORBES and Elspeth FORBES his wife in Pittarick March 6th, 1830 ? Janet STEWART Duncan STEWART and Catherine CAMERON his wife in Copagach? June 16th, 1830 ? Anne MCINTOSH Angus MCINTOSH and Janet FERGUSON his wife in Cammach August 1st, 1830 Aug 5th Catherine MCLACHLAN Alexandr MCLACHLAN and Catherine MCDOUGALL his wife is Ardrie Nov 22nd, 1830 Dec 10th Elspeth MCINTYRE John MCINTYRE and Christian FRASER his wife in Balyhounan? August 11th, 1830 Aug 18th Janet MCINTOSH John MCINTOSH and Janet FERGUSON his wife in Kinnaird June 30th, 1830 July 15th Archibald SDEUARD* Duncan SDEUARD and Mary SIMPSON his wife in Edinburgh March 22nd, 1830 ? Alexander FARQUHARSON Robert FARQUHARSON and Girsel STEWART his wife in Cottarton of Straloch? October 29th, 1830 March 1831 Mary Ann FARQUHARSON Donald FARQUHARSON and Mary McKENZIE his wife in Daldon June 18th, 1831 June 28th Lauchlane DUFF John DUFF and Betsy CALDER his wife in Kilhvaulin? Aug 5th, 1831 Aug 13th Jean FERGUSON John FERGUSON and Catherine DUFF his spouse at Pittarig Mar 22nd, 1831 - Isabella Robertson FARQUHARSON Archibald FARQUHARSON and Mary MCDONALD his wife at Straloch Nov 15th, 1831 Nov 30th Christian CAMERON Archilbald CAMERON and Elizabeth McRAW his spouse at Capleton April 10th, 1832 April 30th Isabella STEWART William STEWART and Catherine McGREGOR his wife in Pitlochry May - . 1832 - Angus MCINTOSH Angus MCINTOSH and Janet FERGUSON his wife in Farmanach? October 25th, 1832 Nov 1st James SCOTT Donald SCOTT and Christian STEWART his wife in Tobarorgan? Nov 6th, 1832 Nov 7th James MCINTOSH Donald MCINTOSH and Ann BRUCE his wife in Kinghline? April 16th, 1832 April 26th David STEWART David STEWART and Ann STEWART his wife in Moulin July ? , 1832 July 10th Marg?/Mary FORBES Donald FORBES and Elspeth FORBES his wife in Pittarick Oct 20 , 1832 Oct 31 David MCINTYRE John MCINTYRE and Christian FRAZER his wife in Balyontran? April 4th, 1832 April 11th James MCINTOSH John MCINTOSH and Janet FERGUSON his wife in Kinnaird Aug 2nd, 1832 Oct 15th Isabella SDEUARD* Duncan SDEUARD and Mary SIMPSON his wife in Pitlochry Nov 18th, 1832 Nov 26th Janet MCLACHLAN D__? MCLACHLAN and Catherine MCLAVENSHIN? His wife in Ardgie Oct 21st, 1832 Oct 21st James MCLACHLAN Alexander MCLACHLAN and Catherine MCDOUGALL his wife in Ardgie July 1st, 1832 Aug ? Janet FARQUHARSON Robert FARQUHARSON and Girsel STEWART his wife in Cotterton of Straloch? ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/

New to list although I have been searching for my husband's ancestors for the past 6 months. Names: SDEUARD/STEWART - Moulin and Edinburgh HOPE - Edinburgh and Inveresk My ancestors: HATTON - Wales CRAGGS - London MARTIN - Devon BRANDT/BRANT - Devon and Salford Have a number of spare details of certs. which I will post separately - it's the first of many - but will take a few weeks to type so will do them periodically - hope they help someone! Happy hunting! Jane GFHS 4671 ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/

Margaret Go to http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ and select to search for an address. Put PH1 4LQ in the box and you'll see Fordie Mains Farm and Fordie Mains Farm Cottage listed. Cotter Fordie (note the spelling) will have been the farm cottage. He probably retired from farming and moved into the cottage. ============== Grant E. L. Buttars Dundee, Scotland http://www.taybank.freeserve.co.uk/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Simpson" <forbmarg@webtv.net> To: <PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 12:48 AM Subject: [PERTH] Where or What is FORDIE > Dear Listers, > In researching ' Wills ' on 'scottishdocuments.com ' one description > reads Farmer at Fordie, Thereafter residing at Cotler . Fordie, in the > Parish of Caputh, Perth. > I have looked on the map and can't find any reference to Fordie or > Cotler .Could anyone please tell me what these names > refer to. > > Kind regards, > Margaret, California > > > ______________________________ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.622 / Virus Database: 400 - Release Date: 18/03/2004

Margaret, The Ladenford in question will be the one about five miles from the town of Forfar itself, which is within the county of Angus. If it states he was the 'Tenant of Farm of Ladenford' then that's what he was. He probably leased it from the Carnegy family of Lour, who were the nearest big landowners. That could easily be confirmed by referring to the annual County Valuation Rolls. I am unsure where the Carnegy estate records are held, possibly still at Lour. You might want to post your query to the Angus list. There are quite a few people on it with a good knowledge of that area. Regards, ============== Grant E. L. Buttars Dundee, Scotland http://www.taybank.freeserve.co.uk/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Simpson" <forbmarg@webtv.net> To: <PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 12:57 AM Subject: [PERTH] Farm of Ladenford > Dear Listers, > A will I was reseaching reads, Tennant of > Farm of Ladenford. The will was probated at Forfar ,Sherif Court. > The date 23/5/1859 > Could anyone please tell me if this is the name of the farm. ? Would he > have been a Labourer or Tennant Farmer ? > > Kind regards, > Margaret Simpson > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.622 / Virus Database: 400 - Release Date: 18/03/2004

I have a new e-mail since my last post, so will re-post my names. I am researching Peter MONTEITH/wife May SIM (her parents John SIM/Mary SORELY). Their kids John, Mary, William, Peter, Robert (my line-b.1812 FindoGask), David, Mary My Robert married Mary GALLETLY (b 1809 Gask-her parents John GALLETLY/Eliz. SIM. Their kids Peter, John, Mary, Robert, William, David, James O. (my line-b 1847 Forteviot), John R., Marjory, Andrew. My James was in Edinburgh by 1870's. Married Christina Ross 1874. They immigrated to USA in 1882. Most of James' siblings also imm. to USA in 1870's to 1880's. Any information would be appreciated. Laura

Dear Listers, I would like to thank ALL the people who reponded to my Queries. It's great to know that there are so many wonderful people out there , ready and willing to offer advice. Kind regards, Margaret Simpson

Hi Margaret, Fordie may be the "Whins of Fordie" which was a farm Northwest of the village of Caputh and due East of Stralochy. I'll send you a file (off list) from an old map (circa 1865) which shows it's position. Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Simpson" <forbmarg@webtv.net> To: <PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 7:48 PM Subject: [PERTH] Where or What is FORDIE > Dear Listers, > In researching ' Wills ' on 'scottishdocuments.com ' one description > reads Farmer at Fordie, Thereafter residing at Cotler . Fordie, in the > Parish of Caputh, Perth. > I have looked on the map and can't find any reference to Fordie or > Cotler .Could anyone please tell me what these names > refer to. > > Kind regards, > Margaret, California > > > > ==== PERTHSHIRE Mailing List ==== > -------------------------------------------------- > ENJOY the list. Ask questions and share information. > If you have an issue, contact the list administrator, > Pamela.Paddock.Arnold PERTHSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/PERTHSHIRE.html > -------------------------------------------------- >

Hello Marianne, You've made great headway so far! Did William and Elizabeth live long enough to be in census records? How did you get approximate birth dates? Did either of them live long enough to have a civil death registration (1855)? Have you looked at the microfilm of Crieff parish records (available at family history centers)? Did their marriage information say that both were from Crieff parish or elsewhere? Be sure to make note of all the Crieff McGregors as you consult these resources; by assembling the families you will rule in or out possible members of your own line. The parish registers often include which farm someone lived on which helps to link up the right families. Often breakthroughs come via a sibling or uncle through wills, etc. Hope this helps, Jennifer >Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 17:36:25 -0500 >From: Marianne <therealmarianne@bellsouth.net> >To: PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PERTH] William and Elizabeth McGregor circa 1788 > >Hi, > I am new to the list and researching my gggggrandparents, William >McGregor and Elizabeth McGregor, both born approx. 1788, Scotland. I've >been told it was not uncommon to marry within the same clan. Is this >true? They were married 1 May 1808, in Crieff, Perth, Scotland. This >is my brick wall. I know they had at least 8 children. My line of >descent is from their son, Donald McGregor, born 6 Nov. 1814. He >married Janet Kennedy, born 29 Aug. 1813 of Comrie, on 17 Feb. 1833, in >Crieff, Perth. Their son, Peter McGregor, born 7 Dec. 1846 in Crieff >with Lanark (?) also mentioned. He married Margaret Barbour, born Feb. >1852 in Ireland, on 11 June 1969, in Glasgow. They emigrated to America >sometime in the 1880's with at least 4 small children, I believe. > Does anyone know of or have a connection to any of the >aforementioned? I would appreciate all and any help or hints as to >where to go from here. Thanks in advance. >Marianne in Florida, US

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Hi, I am new to the list and researching my gggggrandparents, William McGregor and Elizabeth McGregor, both born approx. 1788, Scotland. I've been told it was not uncommon to marry within the same clan. Is this true? They were married 1 May 1808, in Crieff, Perth, Scotland. This is my brick wall. I know they had at least 8 children. My line of descent is from their son, Donald McGregor, born 6 Nov. 1814. He married Janet Kennedy, born 29 Aug. 1813 of Comrie, on 17 Feb. 1833, in Crieff, Perth. Their son, Peter McGregor, born 7 Dec. 1846 in Crieff with Lanark (?) also mentioned. He married Margaret Barbour, born Feb. 1852 in Ireland, on 11 June 1969, in Glasgow. They emigrated to America sometime in the 1880's with at least 4 small children, I believe. Does anyone know of or have a connection to any of the aforementioned? I would appreciate all and any help or hints as to where to go from here. Thanks in advance. Marianne in Florida, US

Dear Listers, A will I was reseaching reads, Tennant of Farm of Ladenford. The will was probated at Forfar ,Sherif Court. The date 23/5/1859 Could anyone please tell me if this is the name of the farm. ? Would he have been a Labourer or Tennant Farmer ? Kind regards, Margaret Simpson

Dear Listers, In researching ' Wills ' on 'scottishdocuments.com ' one description reads Farmer at Fordie, Thereafter residing at Cotler . Fordie, in the Parish of Caputh, Perth. I have looked on the map and can't find any reference to Fordie or Cotler .Could anyone please tell me what these names refer to. Kind regards, Margaret, California