I have just gotten the birth information on a great aunt. She was born Litttleton Cultoguhey Fowlis Wester. Would like to know if this is a farm or what? Thanks for your time. Kaye

I believe there are a number of indicators to race Eg I have been told that celts *usually* have the second toe on their foot longer than their great toe...or is it the third toe? Its one of the toes anyway!! Regards Pat Stedman Brisbane, Australia ******************************************** One-name study of Keillor/Keillar/Keiller etc http://www.users.bigpond.com/kiellor/index.htm and for Clutton families http://www.geocities.com/p_stedman/Index.htm ******************************************** -----Original Message----- From: KenHarrison11@cs.com [mailto:KenHarrison11@cs.com] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 3:37 PM To: PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Bent Finger [was [PERTH] Duncan/Robertson] Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:05:38 EDT From: DoreenGen@aol.com To: PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PERTH] Duncan/Robertson Sheila, With so little to go on, and a VERY common name, you don't have much hope. But here's a co-incidence. I have a direct ancestor called William Duncan, parents unknown and can't get any further, and both my little fingers are bent. A relative in Canada, who has the same ancestor, has the same affliction. Never heard of it being a specific family trait, but you never know!!! Doreen Cuthbert Fife > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:53:25 -0600 > From: "Donald" <esquipi@sofnet.com> > To: PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Duncan/Robertson > > Here's an obscure question. My husband's ancestor was a John > Duncan/Dunkin who was probably born in New Jersey -- possibly Trenton > -- in the early 1700s. No records, of course. Some say he could have > been born in Scotland or on shipboard. His father was supposed to be > called William Duncan and was probably a Baptist minister. Lots of > maybes and probablies here. Has anyone any ideas on how we might track > down this William Duncan? We have noted that several descendants have > the bent little finger that has been observed in the Robertson/Duncan > clan. Sheila > The "bent finger" is supposedly a genetic trait tracable to the Vikings. I can't remember its medical name now, but there was a TV series (BBC, I think) called "Blood of the Vikings" (or similar name) within the past year or two and one one the episodes contained information about this. It runs in the family of a friend of mine (McInnes, from Campbelltown area). Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada HARRISON Yorkshire, Staffordshire, London (Highgate/Hampstead) POTCHIT Yorkshire FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) GRIFFIN Staffordshire STANLEY Staffordshire SMELLIE Lanark, Orkney, Glasgow, Tasmania STIRRAT Ayrshire & Glasgow BAIN Caithness MILLER Caithness, Swaziland SPENCE Orkney TRAILL Orkney SELKRIG Lanark WICKETSHAW Lanark MORRISON Perthshire, Islay, Dumbarton, Glasgow, Australia (Vic) BAIRD Renfrew HAM Australia (Vic) THOMPSON Suffolk AGGUS Suffolk BRIGHTWELL Suffolk LAWSON Clackmannan McNABB Islay MURRAY Dumfries, Renfrew GILLESPIE Dumfries HENDERSON Dumfries TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries CALDWELL Tyrone, Renfrew GRAHAM Tyrone, Ontario Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census. Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional attachment on this e-mail transmission. ==== PERTHSHIRE Mailing List ==== -------------------------------------------------- Send all messages to PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com ONLY use the 'request' address to subscribe or to unsubscribe from the list. http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/PERTHSHIRE.html --------------------------------------------------

Doreen - pretty hard to tell from that description, but that sounds a lot like a condition called Dupuytrens Contracture. I have it as well. It was typically found (say 1000 years ago) in Scandinavian peoples, and has been used as a genetic marker to indicate the origin of people. Given the cross-breeding (or shall we call it co-dependent mutual raping, pillaging and plundering?) between northern Scotland and the western parts of what is now Denmark and Norway, that genetic marker is now found in a number of northern UK people as well, surely including Perthshire. For your interest, do a Google for "dupuytrens viking" (without the quotes). I heard of this on a series on the History channel called the "Blood of the Vikings": http://www.historytelevision.ca/archives/vikings/programs/ Regards - Glen C. Bodie Web http://www.glenbodie.com Home mailto:glen@glenbodie.com -----Original Message----- From: DoreenGen@aol.com [mailto:DoreenGen@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 4:06 PM To: PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PERTH] Duncan/Robertson Sheila, With so little to go on, and a VERY common name, you don't have much hope. But here's a co-incidence. I have a direct ancestor called William Duncan, parents unknown and can't get any further, and both my little fingers are bent. A relative in Canada, who has the same ancestor, has the same affliction. Never heard of it being a specific family trait, but you never know!!! Doreen Cuthbert Fife ______________________________

Dear list, Would anyone have any info on this Duncan McGregor. He was Innkeeper at Brig or Bridge of Turk abt 1836 and was married to Isabella Ferguson. Hoping to hear, Regards Mary in Australia

Hmmm I have Scottish (Ferguson-Lamb) and English (Sharland and Pimm) ancestors. On both feet the two toes next to the great toe are longer and I also have a kink in each little finger. ¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Kathie In Ulm, Montana -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´* RAOGK volunteer http://www.raogk.com/ ~Remembering 9/11/2001and The Columbia Crew 2003

Tell me more! I have bent little fingers too, as do quite a few in my family. I'd love to know of any Viking link as my husband often proudly alludes to his probable Viking origins (he has no proof whatsoever, but hails from the Yorkshire coast and is fair of skin!) Dorothy G New Zealand >Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:05:38 EDT >From: DoreenGen@aol.com >To: PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PERTH] Duncan/Robertson > >> > > > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:53:25 -0600 > > From: "Donald" <esquipi@sofnet.com> > > To: PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Duncan/Robertson > > > > Here's an obscure question. My husband's ancestor was a John >Duncan/Dunkin > > who was probably born in New Jersey -- possibly Trenton -- in the early > > 1700s. No records, of course. Some say he could have been born in >Scotland > > or on shipboard. His father was supposed to be called William Duncan and >was > > probably a Baptist minister. Lots of maybes and probablies here. Has >anyone > > any ideas on how we might track down this William Duncan? We have noted >that > > several descendants have the bent little finger that has been observed >in > > the Robertson/Duncan clan. > > Sheila > > >The "bent finger" is supposedly a genetic trait tracable to the Vikings. I >can't remember its medical name now, but there was a TV series (BBC, I >think) >called "Blood of the Vikings" (or similar name) within the past year or two >and >one one the episodes contained information about this. > >It runs in the family of a friend of mine (McInnes, from Campbelltown >area). > >Ken Harrison >North Vancouver, Canada > >HARRISON Yorkshire, Staffordshire, London (Highgate/Hampstead) >POTCHIT Yorkshire >FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) >GRIFFIN Staffordshire >STANLEY Staffordshire >SMELLIE Lanark, Orkney, Glasgow, Tasmania >STIRRAT Ayrshire & Glasgow >BAIN Caithness >MILLER Caithness, Swaziland >SPENCE Orkney >TRAILL Orkney >SELKRIG Lanark >WICKETSHAW Lanark >MORRISON Perthshire, Islay, Dumbarton, Glasgow, Australia (Vic) >BAIRD Renfrew >HAM Australia (Vic) >THOMPSON Suffolk >AGGUS Suffolk >BRIGHTWELL Suffolk >LAWSON Clackmannan >McNABB Islay >MURRAY Dumfries, Renfrew >GILLESPIE Dumfries >HENDERSON Dumfries >TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries >CALDWELL Tyrone, Renfrew >GRAHAM Tyrone, Ontario >Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census. > >Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no >intentional >attachment on this e-mail transmission. > > >==== PERTHSHIRE Mailing List ==== > -------------------------------------------------- > Send all messages to PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > ONLY use the 'request' address to > subscribe or to unsubscribe from the list. > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/PERTHSHIRE.html > -------------------------------------------------- > _________________________________________________________________ Need more speed? Get Xtra JetStream @ http://xtra.co.nz/jetstream

Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:05:38 EDT From: DoreenGen@aol.com To: PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PERTH] Duncan/Robertson Sheila, With so little to go on, and a VERY common name, you don't have much hope. But here's a co-incidence. I have a direct ancestor called William Duncan, parents unknown and can't get any further, and both my little fingers are bent. A relative in Canada, who has the same ancestor, has the same affliction. Never heard of it being a specific family trait, but you never know!!! Doreen Cuthbert Fife > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:53:25 -0600 > From: "Donald" <esquipi@sofnet.com> > To: PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Duncan/Robertson > > Here's an obscure question. My husband's ancestor was a John Duncan/Dunkin > who was probably born in New Jersey -- possibly Trenton -- in the early > 1700s. No records, of course. Some say he could have been born in Scotland > or on shipboard. His father was supposed to be called William Duncan and was > probably a Baptist minister. Lots of maybes and probablies here. Has anyone > any ideas on how we might track down this William Duncan? We have noted that > several descendants have the bent little finger that has been observed in > the Robertson/Duncan clan. > Sheila > The "bent finger" is supposedly a genetic trait tracable to the Vikings. I can't remember its medical name now, but there was a TV series (BBC, I think) called "Blood of the Vikings" (or similar name) within the past year or two and one one the episodes contained information about this. It runs in the family of a friend of mine (McInnes, from Campbelltown area). Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada HARRISON Yorkshire, Staffordshire, London (Highgate/Hampstead) POTCHIT Yorkshire FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) GRIFFIN Staffordshire STANLEY Staffordshire SMELLIE Lanark, Orkney, Glasgow, Tasmania STIRRAT Ayrshire & Glasgow BAIN Caithness MILLER Caithness, Swaziland SPENCE Orkney TRAILL Orkney SELKRIG Lanark WICKETSHAW Lanark MORRISON Perthshire, Islay, Dumbarton, Glasgow, Australia (Vic) BAIRD Renfrew HAM Australia (Vic) THOMPSON Suffolk AGGUS Suffolk BRIGHTWELL Suffolk LAWSON Clackmannan McNABB Islay MURRAY Dumfries, Renfrew GILLESPIE Dumfries HENDERSON Dumfries TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries CALDWELL Tyrone, Renfrew GRAHAM Tyrone, Ontario Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census. Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional attachment on this e-mail transmission.

> Thu, 22 Apr 2004 20:31:56 +0100 > From: "CHRIS PATON" <chrispaton@btinternet.com> > To: PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Paton deaths and burials in Perth 1794 - 1863 > > Hi all, > > Earlier this week, I spent a day at the archives of A. K. Bell Library in > Perth looking through the burial registers for the town from 1794 to 1863, > specifically for the surnames Paton, Patan and Patton, and I have transcribed > every entry on these names for this period. The registers are a fantastic > resource, often listing relatives, causes of death, dates of death and burial, as > well as cost of the coffin or cloth used. If anyone would like me to do a look > up on these names, I will gladly check if they were listed. > > Chris > Chris, Thank you for this offer. I have a "lost" Paton and this is a real long-shot, but please see if you can find anything on: Ann Paton, died after 1776. She was married to Peter (Patrick) Lawson, and had a son, Robert Lawson, born about 1776. I can't pin the family down to a location until about 1802, when a grandson was born in Alloa, Clackmannanshire. Since I don't know where they came from, perhaps you can help me rule out Perth (or, better yet, find her !!) Yours expectantly ...... Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada HARRISON Yorkshire, Staffordshire, London (Highgate/Hampstead) POTCHIT Yorkshire FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) GRIFFIN Staffordshire STANLEY Staffordshire SMELLIE Lanark, Orkney, Glasgow, Tasmania STIRRAT Ayrshire & Glasgow BAIN Caithness MILLER Caithness, Swaziland SPENCE Orkney TRAILL Orkney SELKRIG Lanark WICKETSHAW Lanark MORRISON Perthshire, Islay, Dumbarton, Glasgow, Australia (Vic) BAIRD Renfrew HAM Australia (Vic) THOMPSON Suffolk AGGUS Suffolk BRIGHTWELL Suffolk LAWSON Clackmannan McNABB Islay MURRAY Dumfries, Renfrew GILLESPIE Dumfries HENDERSON Dumfries TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries CALDWELL Tyrone, Renfrew GRAHAM Tyrone, Ontario Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census. Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional attachment on this e-mail transmission.

Here is my STEWART line. If anyone can tie into any of this, let me know. Sheila Kronenberger Belleville, Illinois, USA (1) Robert STEWART & Jane WHYSTOCK d. bef 1870 | (2) David STEWART | b. abt 1841 | d. bef 1894 | & Bella (Isabella) DONALD [my GG Aunt] | b. 1 Nov 1841, Kinrossie, Perth, Scotland | d. 10 Aug 1879, Kinrossie, Collace, Perth, Scotland | | (3) Jessie Welsh STEWART | | b. 16 Oct 1870, Kinnoul, Perth, Scotland | | d. 28 Oct 1945, Walsh Nursing Home, 60 Roslyn Road, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada | | (3) John Donald STEWART | | b. 23 Mar 1873, Cargill, Perth, Scotland | | d. 4 Apr 1879, Kinrossie, Collace, Perth, Scotland | | (3) Jane Whytock STEWART | | b. abt 1875-1877, Lochee, Forfar, Scotland | | d. 27 Nov 1951, 301 Govan Road, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland | | & John SMITH | | b. 5 Oct 1871, Perth, Perth, Scotland | | d. bef 1951 | | | (4) Isabella Donald SMITH | | | b. 20 Dec 1897, 49 Pomarium(?), Perth, Perth, Scotland | | | d. aft 1951 | | | & Peter R. MACKENZIE | | (3) Catherine (Kate?) STEWART | | b. 25 Jan 1879?, Lochee, Forfar, Scotland | | d. aft 1891

Hi all, Earlier this week, I spent a day at the archives of A. K. Bell Library in Perth looking through the burial registers for the town from 1794 to 1863, specifically for the surnames Paton, Patan and Patton, and I have transcribed every entry on these names for this period. The registers are a fantastic resource, often listing relatives, causes of death, dates of death and burial, as well as cost of the coffin or cloth used. If anyone would like me to do a look up on these names, I will gladly check if they were listed. For those researching other names, the registers are well worth a look. The one thing they don't contain are the lair numbers, but I think these can be obtained at the council's offices at Pullar House. Perth's original burial ground was Greyfriars, but in the late 1840s Wellshill took over - there was a brief period in which burials continued in both cemeteries, before Greyfriars was finally closed for burials. The following are the accession numbers for the registers, and a summary of the info they contain. Each volume has a fully comprehensive name index: PE1/20/1: burials in Greyfriars from 1794 - 1824 Listing name of deceased, related partner or father, date of death, date of burial, age at time of death, and cause of death. PE1/20/2: burials in Greyfriars from 1824 - 1844 Listing same as previous. PE1/20/3A: burials in Greyfriars from 1844 - 1847 Listing name of deceased, related partner or father, occupation, birthplace, residence at time of death, age at time of death, date of death, date of burial, cause of death, type of coffin purchased and its cost, and whether the grave had to be dug deeper at an additional cost. PE1/20/3B: burials in Greyfriars from 1847 - 1848 Listing same as previous PE1/20/3C: burials in Greyfriars from 1848 - 1849 Listing same as previous PE1/20/3D: burials in Greyfriars and Wellshill from 1849 - 1855 LIsting name of deceased, related partner or father, occupation, where born, residence at time of death, age at time of death, cause, date of death, date of burial, cemetery in which buried, type of coffin purchased and cost. PE1/20/4: burials in Greyfriars and Wellshill from 1855 - 1863 (With civil death registration having commenced in 1855, these registers are the least useful, concentrating mainly on the burial details) Listing name of deceased, date of death, date (and time) of burial, cemetery in which buried, type of coffin and cost. Chris

Heather David and Isabellas daughter was born between 1840 and 1844. When she married in 1864 she listed both parents as deceased. Margie

Hi Mary I'm on several Yorkshire lists and will happily pass this on (unless someone beats me to it!) - but please could you confirm which churchyard this is in? Arthur Kennedy ----- Original Message ----- From: <BRUINSWOOD@aol.com> To: <PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:03 PM Subject: [PERTH] stewarts and Butterell > a1-7.11.17.27.32.34.37-40.43.46.51.70.75.78-85.87-8.90-2.94-6.98.101.107.121 .1 > 25-6.129-134.136.145. b:3-4.14.e:1-2 f:2.6 10-11.40.44.50-51.68-72.75.77 > f:87 g:4.15.17.20a-22.31.44.48a.51-3.64.83 notes x11 > > This is not a Stewart but I'm hoping someone has a connection to an English > list so his family can find his stone cuzz he is a long way from home... silly > I know but I just feel sorry for him so far away > > 12 Wm Butterell of Doncaster Yorkshire who during a journey on commercial > pursuits was taken ill at this place on 16.8.1818 and d 28.8.1818 51st y > leaving a wife and only son to deplore his loss.... <snip>

Kaye, I decided to start over, Babe- on a hunch i viewed Caroline's birth and it is Isabel Shewster Robertson there is a correction in the margin....but her parents are John Robertson, Coachman, and Barbara Bell, whose marriage was thankfully after 1855! October 31 1856 in Perth. born at littleton, culteguhey? very hard to read Fowlis wester. I felt like I wasn't helping and now I found her birth....so next I'm trying her death. I printed it off and you can either get on and do it or I can mail it to you if you like. I am going after the marriage now that my search engine is going! your friend, MARY in Oregon

Kaye, In your cemeteries for Fowlis Wester do you perhaps have an Isabella Shewster Robertson b. May 24, 1861 and is not found in the 1871 census for Strathdon Aberdeenshire where the family has moved. Someone was looking up her birth and could not find it but I do have it from the IGI files but she is gone in 1871. I also then have a Carolyn born Fowlis Wester the next year and she is in the 1871 census. I know we have spoken before.I have a few problems 1: there is no Fowlis Wester cemetery 2: Fowlis Easter is in Angus, not Perth 3.The books are pre-1855 (there are some exceptions), and she was brn in 1861 4 to look for one Robertson, I have to look up every Robertson grave as there are no first names in the indexes. less than 1% of the people in a cemetery had stones (and of those many are broken or unreadable) so she and her family could be there and you would never know it...you can't assume that because there is a Robertson they are related. So never assume if you find one they are YOUR family Fowlis Easter graves Robertson1.3.7.29 1 isabel robertson 1694 35 spouse to androw moudie 3 1850 john robertson 1830 48, w Margt young 1847 and family 7 george robetson overseer Fowlis Easter 1855 70 after 52y service with the family of Ochtertyre, 1w Barbara McDiarmid 25.2.1822 36, 2w Margt Murry 10.6.1857 80, s Geo 27.6.1834 18, da Margt 6.4.1838 30, s John overseer Moncrieffe d 17.5.1840 29 29 John Robertson, Mill of Foulis 6.12.1856, w Margt Blair 5.1.1850 38, s Joseph 3.5.1849 4y, da Anne 22.9.1853 20, 3s Robt fell in Caffre Orange Free State 10.6.1865 26, 1s Jas 14.8.1902 66, 2s Thos 3.8.1898 58 yt s John 22.7.1921 72 all int in private cem Jamerberg DriftWepener Orange Free State, yda Helen 11.6.1930 88 sorry no shewster robertson...i'll skim shewster but still think you'd better go through the Fowlis Easter parish film for mort cloth rentals and the GROS for births. You can hire a professional to look, since the record may not be established church of Scotland--which are the only records at the GROS. They could have been another faction or another church. Where did you get the date 1861 and Fowlis wester info from? It may just be wrong. Check the LDS for the film at the second link. The recording of the records didn't stop at 1855...so you may find it on the end of the parish film. was she a Shewster who married a Robertson or a Robertson with a Shewster middle name? I was going to look at other surnames in the MIs but I think I think it is at a dead end.... Have you tried wills? that's a real long shot if she died as a child. I searched to for Robertson in fowlis wester, even with soundex or with a wildcard like Ro* .You didn't list her parents...i suspect that is what you are trying to find? you should also consider that they could have been illegitimate, especially if it is the first child. The kirk session notes are helpful but they weren't filmed. You might consider a professional who can search the records at both places. Mary http://www.scottish-towns.co.uk/perthshire/fowlis-wester/ http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?displ ay=localitydetails&subject=3735&subject_disp=Scotland%2C+Perth%2C+Fowlis%2DWes ter&columns=*,0,0 1863ROBERTSONALEXANDERMFOWLIS WESTERPERTH357/00 0001 21861ROBERTSONCAROLINEFFOWLIS WESTERPERTH357/00 0013 31862ROBERTSONCATHERINEFFOWLIS WESTERPERTH357/00 0002 41866ROBERTSONCATHERINEFFOWLIS WESTERPERTH357/00 0014 51870ROBERTSONDAVIDMFOWLIS WESTERPERTH357/00 0012 61865ROBERTSONWILLIAMMFOWLIS WESTERPERTH357/00 0009 KAYE

Donald wrote: >Here's an obscure question. My husband's ancestor was a John Duncan/Dunkin >who was probably born in New Jersey -- possibly Trenton -- in the early >1700s. No records, of course. Some say he could have been born in Scotland >or on shipboard. His father was supposed to be called William Duncan and was >probably a Baptist minister. Lots of maybes and probablies here. Has anyone >any ideas on how we might track down this William Duncan? We have noted that >several descendants have the bent little finger that has been observed in >the Robertson/Duncan clan. >Sheila > I have only one DUNCAN that crossed paths into my SMALL family, not much help here: Descendants of Grace Duncan 1 Grace DUNCAN b: 1760 Scotland d: Unknown .. +John SMALL, Jr b: in Clunie, Perthshire, Scotland .... 2 Mary SMALL b: 02 Jan 1774 in Clunie, Perthshire, Scotland d: Unknown in Clunie, Perthshire, Scotland ........ +Henry FLOOD m: 04 Nov 1796 in Clunie, Perthshire, Scotland .... 2 Jean SMALL b: 13 Nov 1775 in Clunie, Perthshire, Scotland d: Unknown in Clunie, Perthshire, Scotland .... 2 Patrick Peter SMALL b: 30 Jan 1782 in Clunie, Perthshire, Scotland d: 28 Dec 1866 in Mill Hill Farm, Perthshire, Scotland ........ +Betty RODGERS b: 24 Aug 1802 in Liff, Forfarshire, Scotland d: Nov 1823 in Kingoudie (Dargie), Perthshire, Scotland .... *2nd Wife of Patrick Peter SMALL: ....... +Isabel RATTRAY later, Jim Small http://www.angelfire.com/ia/smallclan > >

Sheila, With so little to go on, and a VERY common name, you don't have much hope. But here's a co-incidence. I have a direct ancestor called William Duncan, parents unknown and can't get any further, and both my little fingers are bent. A relative in Canada, who has the same ancestor, has the same affliction. Never heard of it being a specific family trait, but you never know!!! Doreen Cuthbert Fife

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> Sorry I couldn't find any Peter Stewarts....maybe you will on > Scotlandspeople.gov and Scottish Documents for will. > > http://www.scottishdocuments.com/ > > http://scotlandspeople.gov/ ********* I went to scotsorigins.com I found that though he was called Peter his actual birth name was Patrick. I found a IGI record of his birth and his marriage to Jean Stewart (thought to be Jane) I do not know if Stewart was her surname as well or if it is the name she acquired when marrying Patrick "Peter". I found this by finding his oldest son first, Alexander. When I downloaded the info for Alexander the father was listed as Patrick. Thank you though, Stacey __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25� http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash

All this mention of Stewarts has encouraged me to mention the family of Robert Stewart and Ann Luke who lived at one time at Carrat Farm in Blair Drummond. Their children seem to have been mostly unmarried or unproductive but just thought I'd give it a try. Judith Stichbury

Patrick Peter SMALL - Clunie, Perthshire, Scotland I am looking for further information and connections to Patrick Peter Small. The leads I have include the following account I have been told: "I recall Peter Patrick Small was a coachman to the Laird at Castle Huntley before he established his pub. I suspect, incidentally, that John Small had two older brothers, Peter Small and Patrick Small, who were killed at Culloden, in which John would have been too young to participate; thus, when he had a son, he named him with the oddly Papist Peter Patrick cognomens, quite an unusual name for someone almost certainly a member of the Episcopal Church of Scotland." The descendancy I have begins as: Descendants of Patrick Peter Small 1 Patrick Peter SMALL b: 30 Jan 1782 in Clunie, Perthshire, Scotland d: 28 Dec 1866 in Mill Hill Farm, Perthshire, Scotland .. +Betty RODGERS b: 24 Aug 1802 in Liff, Forfarshire, Scotland d: Nov 1823 in Kingoudie (Dargie), Perthshire, Scotland .... 2 William SMALL b: 02 Mar 1819 in Longforgan, Perthshire, Scotland d: 25 Jun 1899 in Shade Township, Somerset County, PA ........ +Adaline LAMBERT b: 21 Oct 1830 in Buckstown, Somerset County, PA m: 1845 in Reels Corner, Somerset County, PA d: 28 Mar 1877 in Shade Township, Somerset County, PA *2nd Wife of Patrick Peter SMALL: .. +Isabel RATTRAY .... 2 Ann Augusta SMALL ........ +John MCLAREN .... 2 Isabella Rattray SMALL .... 2 SMALL If anyone has additional information or connections, please let me know. Thanks, Jim Small jesmall@neb.rr.com http://www.angelfire.com/ia/smallclan