It is my recollection that if you follow the road south from Birnam to Bankfoot you will find Torwood on the left just south of Birnam

Thank you one and all for the ineresting e-mails re the above. Seems that my gggrandparents, John and Mary Watterson, and my 3 x ggrandmother, Elizabeth Wilkie, who emigrated to New Zealand arriving here 17 March 1841 from Perth, may be responsible for the appearance of hammer toes in some members of my family. Iris of Auckland, New Zealand

Kaye Torwood is in Birnam, Little Dunkeld Parish, I have the Memorial Inscriptions for that parish and there are a fair number of stones have Torwwod listed on them. If you go to the old maps web site and put in Perthshire then Birnam and then click to enlarge the map, Torwood is pretty much in the centre although the writing is a little hard to decipher. It is to the south and slightly right of Birnam Cottage. http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldmaps/large_ind.jsp Hope that this helps, if you want the mentions of Torwood let me know Heather J

Hi Kay, as far as I know, Torwood is a house in Birnam. Birnam is just over the bridge from Dunkeld. The brother of my great grandfather, Peter Conacher and wife, Margaret Robertson lived their until his death. (1881 census). Don't have the exact dates off hand, but can probably get them for you. Regards, Dorothy (Longforgan)

Dear All We've had hammertoes, bent little fingers - can I ask about hair patterns? Specifically coo's/cow's licks, where the hair in the centre of the parting springs up in the air, often to the embarassment and annoyance of the owner. I ask as it appears frequently in a strong form in our family with East coast roots. An American correspondent, a Ramsey, and her family have the same thing. Does anyone know anything about its frequency in different ethnic groups? all the best Gavin.

Hello list: I have just sat with multi-map and put together the whole are of Little Dunkeld trying to find the two places two of my grandfathers siblings were born. I found Kinnaird House but I cannot find Torwood. Is there anyone out there that can help me please? Also does anyone have any information on Torwood? Regards, Kaye

Hi Malcolm, >McNaughtan/on; Dalchonzie, Glen Lyon, Moar Fortingall, Balnacrag farm, >Lochs Farm, Kilmadock, Comrie, Glen Lochay, Killin, Weem, Balquhidder, My McNaughtans are also from Dalchronzie and later Fortingall........ 1. unk MacNaughtan 2. Coline MacNaughtan b ? John MacNaughtan b abt 1675 Dalchonzie marr Janet Carmichael (Janet b in Findhuglen, b unk) 3. Duncan MacNaughtan b. 1699 John MacNaughtan b 1701 Dalchonzie marr Janet McIlchonnel in abt 1726 (dau of John McIlchonnel & Katherine Dochardach) 4. Duncan MacNaughtan b 2 Jan 1726 Dalchonzie marr Margaret Fergusson Patrick MacNaughtan b 1728 John MacNaughtan b. 1729 Malcolm MacNaughtan b. abt 1730 Monzie Colline MacNaughtan b. 9 Dec 1733 Monzie 5. Finlay MacNaughtan b. 14 April 1751 Dalchiorlich, Glen Lyon marr Jean McDiarmid 17 Mar 1776 (dau of John McDiarmid & Grisel MacNaughtan) Jean b 22 June 1760 in Dunan, Argyll Christian MacNaughtan b unk,at Dalchiorlich, Glen Lyon William MacNaughtan b unk, at Dalchiorlich, Glen Lyon Margaret MacNaughtan b. abt 18 June 1754 at Dalchiorlich, Glen Lyon 6. Margaret (Peggy) MacNaughtan b 19 Jan 1777 Fortingall marr Malcolm MacNaughtan 22 Jan 1797 in Fortingall (son of John MacNaughtan & Isobel McCallum, b 1768) Grizel MacNaughtan b 13 Dec 1779 Kinachlacher, Loch Ranoch Christian MacNaughtan b 01 Jan 1785 Kinachlacher, Loch Ranoch Donald MacNaughtan b abt 25 Dec 1786 Kinachlacher, Loch Ranoch Elizabeth MacNaughtan b 24 August 1788 Kinachlacher, Loch Ranoch Janet MacNaughtan b. 07 Jun 1790 Fortingall Alexander MacNaughtan b 4 Dec 1791 Fortingall Ann MacNaughtan b. 29 March 1793 Kinachlacher, Loch Ranoch Robert MacNaughtan b. 15 Dec 1794 Easter Moar, Glen Lyon Mary MacNaughtan b. 7 Dec 1796 Easter Moar, Glen Lyon Janet MacNaughtan b. 20 October 1798 Easter Moar, Glen Lyon *Alexander MacNaughtan b. 3 Sept 100 Easter Moar, Glen Lyon Jean MacNaughtan b. 20 June 1802 Easter Moar, Glen Lyon Joseph MacNaughtan b. 30 March 1805 Easter Moar, Glen Lyon note: Peggy & Malcolm are cousins and were married at Fortingall; the spelling changes in this family to MacNaughton in the children and they emigrate to Ontario, CAN. I do have more on the siblings from another 'cousin' who's line diverges from mine at Alexander * He has far more info if that is your line. Does any of this connect to you? Peggy in New Hampshire

>Robertson, Killin, Balquhidder, One more Malcolm, Not sure if this fits yours but this was in the last generation - Robert MacNaughtan b. 15 Dec 1794 Easter Moar, Glen Lyon married Janet Robertson, 30 April 1831 Fortingall Peggy

Hi Please note I have changed my email address to <mailto:m.amitchell@btinternet.com> m.amitchell@btinternet.com please amend your address book. However, my old address will be transferred to Frank so either will reach me. However I would prefer if you would use my new address. Thanks regards Margaret

>I've heard hammertoes are common among Scots. But I haven't heard if they >are a one-gene, one family kind of thing. All I know is I've got them and my >total heredity is Highland... >Sheila >OK, my ignorance here..what are hammertoes? Interesting anatomical discussion..........I've got the early white hair, widow's peak, little bent fingers and my thumbs barely reach the bottom of the knuckle of the index finger. (did I miss anything? :-) And I just thought this was in my family's genes! Peggy

Caroline, My maternal grandsfather was Alexander Thomson from Stirlingshire. He was brought over to Canada to instruct people in the woollen industry. The only thing I know is his name and where he was from. There were a lot of secrets in that family and we were always told it was not our business. There is no one left to ask. My mother was an only child, adopted. We actually think she was the child of her adoptive father and her aunt.Molly. After my grandmother's death, my grandfather married Molly.. My grandmother's maiden name was Maxwell. My mother was born in Halifax, N.S. and birth records were lost in the Halifax explosion. Intrique and mystery! Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: <caroline.c.yeo@jpmorganfleming.com> To: <PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 4:49 AM Subject: Re: [PERTH] Hammer Toes > Hi everyone > > So that's what it is.... > > My Scots mother suffered from this all her life, and actually had to have > several toes broken & reset. > I have inherited the hammer toe problem, only not so severe, but just to > make up for it, I got my father's > queer toenails! > > My genes are also Highland in origin (Argyll/Perth) - maybe it's running > barefoot through the heather? > > > Caroline Campbell Yeo > > > >> RESEARCHING: > > >> > > >> DEWAR, CAMPBELL, ROBERTSON, STARK, THOM(P)SON, Lanarkshire > > >> ANDERSON, HENDERSON, THOM(P)SON, Stirlingshire > > >> CAMPBELL, ROBERTSON, STARK, CRUMPTON, Perthshire > > >> MCFARLANE, MCLACHLAN, Argyllshire > > >> CAVET(T) Dumfriesshire > > > Original message > -------------------------- > > ----- Message from "Donald" <esquipi@sofnet.com> on Wed, 5 May 2004 > 20:37:20 -0600 ----- > > To: PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [PERTH] hammertoes > > > > I've heard hammertoes are common among Scots. But I haven't heard if they > are a one-gene, one family kind of thing. All I know is I've got them and > my > total heredity is Highland... > Sheila > > > > > ==== PERTHSHIRE Mailing List ==== > ----------------------------------------------- > Visit the PERTHSHIRE Mailing List Web Site at > http:// www.rootsweb.com/~sctper/ > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/PERTHSHIRE.html > ----------------------------------------------- > >

I have found in one or two instances that the Gaelic version of a surname will be used up until around the middle of the 19th century and then in becomes anglicised Kay

Hi everyone So that's what it is.... My Scots mother suffered from this all her life, and actually had to have several toes broken & reset. I have inherited the hammer toe problem, only not so severe, but just to make up for it, I got my father's queer toenails! My genes are also Highland in origin (Argyll/Perth) - maybe it's running barefoot through the heather? > Caroline Campbell Yeo > >> RESEARCHING: > >> > >> DEWAR, CAMPBELL, ROBERTSON, STARK, THOM(P)SON, Lanarkshire > >> ANDERSON, HENDERSON, THOM(P)SON, Stirlingshire > >> CAMPBELL, ROBERTSON, STARK, CRUMPTON, Perthshire > >> MCFARLANE, MCLACHLAN, Argyllshire > >> CAVET(T) Dumfriesshire Original message -------------------------- ----- Message from "Donald" <esquipi@sofnet.com> on Wed, 5 May 2004 20:37:20 -0600 ----- To: PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PERTH] hammertoes I've heard hammertoes are common among Scots. But I haven't heard if they are a one-gene, one family kind of thing. All I know is I've got them and my total heredity is Highland... Sheila

Hello List: I have gotten some birth information on some of the my grandfathers siblings and at least two of them were born in Bridge End Callander. I got on Google and found there is a Bridge End Farm somewhere. I have gone to Multimap but cannot at this time find anything. Can anyone help please. There were born in the 1860's and their gather was a coachman. I am slowing finding where all were born and where my great grandfather worked. It is a great puzzle. Thanks for any help. Kaye

I've heard hammertoes are common among Scots. But I haven't heard if they are a one-gene, one family kind of thing. All I know is I've got them and my total heredity is Highland... Sheila

Hello, Mary McMartin was from Callander. Her husband, John Cameron was the son of John Cameron (born about 1748) and Jean McNiven (born about 1746). They are both buried in Kilbryde. There was at least one other son, Alexander, born at Kilbryde, 17 May 1786. There were other children of John Cameron and Margaret McMartin. John was born 26 Nov 1809 and died as an infant, Janet was born 28 Oct 1812, married Matthew Lennox, farmer in Powblack in 1854 and died 19 Jul 1902. Matthew was born 11 Sep 1815 and died 1 August 1894. They had a daughter Margaret born 5 July 1857. John Cameron was born 9 July 1814 and married Janet Dewar in 1854. She died 22 October 1877 and he died 6 February 1901. The fourth child of John Cameron and Margaret McMartin was Duncan, born 26 Aug 1816. He died at Matthew Lennox's farm of Powblack on 24 Nov 1891. Of John Cameron/Janet Dewar's family, John was born 8 Mar 1855 and died 27 Feb 1890. He was buried in Kilbryde on 1 March 1890. Alexander was born 17 Feb 1856 and died 25 April 1925, having married Margaret Henderson in 1891. She was born 1861 and died 5 February 1949. Elizabeth was born 14 January 1858 and died 14 January 1949. She married Alexander McIntyre in 1884. He was born at Dalchonzie, Comrie, 26 December 1846 and died at Phadringbank, Doune on 25 April 1931. Margaret was born 1 September 1860 and died 13 June 1938. Duncan was born 17 August 1862 and died at Easter Bow on 26 Mat 1955. He married Margaret Stewart Forbes who was born in 1887 and died 20 Mar 1915. Janet was born 11 October 1864. Jane Dewar Cameron was born 24 Feb 1867. Donald was born 22 April 1869 and died 3 March 1875. Dave Stirling ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Gray" <malstgray@bigpond.com> To: <PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:46 PM Subject: [PERTH] Cameron & MacMartin > John Cameron b c 1771 Easter Bow of Kilbryde Dunblane Sct.d 1832 Dunblane Married [unknown date & place] Mary McMartin b c 1777, place unknown > I child known > [1] John b 1814 Dunblane Per, d 1901, Kilbryde Per. bur Kilbryde. married June 1854 Dunblane; Janet Dewar 1825 - 1877 d/o Alexander Dewar 1785 - 1862 & Elisabeth McNee b 1791 Kilmadock > 8 Known children to John & Janet > [1] John Cameron, b Mar 1855 Dunblane > [2] Alexander Cameron b Feb 1856 marr 1891 Margaret Henderson > [3] Elizabeth Cameron b Jan 1858, Dunblane , Marr. 1884 Dunblane Alexander McIntyre > [4] Margaret Cameron b Sep 1860 Dunblane > [5] Duncan Cameron b Dec 1862 Dunblane > [6] Janet Cameron b Oct 1864 Dunblane > [7] Jean Cameron b Feb 1867 Dunblane > [8] Donald Cameron b Apr 1869 D 1875 Dunblane > > I am looking for descendants of all the above Families > anyone researching this line?? > regards Malcolm > Australia > > > ==== PERTHSHIRE Mailing List ==== > -------------------------------------------------- > ENJOY the list. Ask questions and share information. > If you have an issue, contact the list administrator, > Pamela.Paddock.Arnold PERTHSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/PERTHSHIRE.html > -------------------------------------------------- > >

Hi I am searching for any family of Peter and Marjory(Ballantyne)SLATER of Caputh in Perthshire. TIA Helen McNamara in NZ

Hi I am searching for any of the SLATER family who lived in Caputh in Perthshire. They were David & Jean(nee CRAIGY) SLATER.They had 12 children. Hopefully this message will appear in my in box. they haven't for the last few days. Helen McNamara in NZ

accidental post of last one Sorry! McNiven; Callander, McRuar/er; Kilmadock (this name seems to have died out) Doune, McVean, Killin, Glen Lochay, Glen Orchy Arl. Millar; Kilmadock, Moir;; Arl, Muthill, Morison; Glasgow, Auchterarder, Morrison; Arl, Murdoch, Glasgow, Kilmadock, Kincardine Paterson, Kincardine, Kippen, Renwick Lks 1850's Robertson, Killin, Balquhidder, Ross, Abd, Sharp, Muthill, Strowan, Sinclair, Arl. Smellie Lks, Stalker, Comrie Stewart, all perth, Descendants of Stewart of Ardvorlich, Glenfinglass, Baldorran, in particular Stirling, Comrie, Monzieviard, Strang, Port of menteith, Thompson, Falkirk Stirling, Kincardine, Glasgow, Walker, Falkirk Sti, Whitehead/Quhittitt;; Kippendavie, Dunblane, Belfast Irl., Kilmarnock, Whyte;; Govan Lks, End of this list Thank you to all who have already responded other areas of interest include North America and Canada, south Africa, Nwe Zealand, Australia, or anyplace where they could have immigrated to

More Interests McNaughtan/on; Dalchonzie, Glen Lyon, Moar Fortingall, Balnacrag farm, Lochs Farm, Kilmadock, Comrie, Glen Lochay, Killin, Weem, Balquhidder, McNee; Kilmadock, Denny, Baldernock, Glasgow, McNichol; Muthill, McNiven, Kilmadock, Callander,