Hi In case you hadn't noticed, the mail has been a little skimpy lately! The server this list uses at Rootsweb had some issue and was off-line. It's fixed now and up and running. Any mail that was sent to the list while it was broken should now come through to the list (Rootsweb held all the mail while they fixed the server, and no, I have no idea how they do that!). Usually if there is a problem Rootsweb will have the current mail come through, and feed the held mail in a little at a time so nothing is overloaded. The digests might be a little confused during this period, so remember to check the archives if you are concerned you might have missed something. Here is a link for the archives to show July's mail in chronological order: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PERTHSHIRE/2004-07?mode=chronological&with=names&with=dates&.submit=Redisplay&.cgifields=with Pam Arnold List Admin

Hello list, I just arrived on the list. I am researching McKay at Blairgowrie. I would very much appreciate a look up for Daniel McKay and wife Catherine. Also, for Richard McKay and his wife Sarah. Thank You Catherine

My Great Granny was Christina Kennedy, always known as Dewar. She was the illegitemate child of James Dewar and Margaret Kennedy, however on her marriage certificate in 1882 she put her mother's name as Janet. I have the Kirk Session Minutes proving this. Christina was born 5th February 1859 at New Inver, Tullipowrie, Logierait and James Dewar was residing at Pitcastle, Logierait in 1858 and Ardunaig, Killin in 1860. According to Christina's marriage certificate, James Dewar is a mason. James Dewar had a further illegitimate child, admitted in Kirk Session Minutes, he was a James Clark, known as Dewar born to Janet Clark on 22nd December 1859 in Killin. James Dewar did not marry either of these two women. Not exactly a clean living young man!! I have named him the "Tayside Tomcat" I have Christina in the 1881 Census working as a domestic servant in a hotel at Amulree and Crieff Road, Dull. I am looking for any clues as to both James Dewar's and Margaret Kennedy's parentage. I have the 1851 Census Index for Logierait and there are only 2 Margaret Kennedy's, one is aged 2 and the other 6. Logierait 7/8/33: - If it is the 6 year old, then she was only 15 when she had Christina! Her parents were: - James and Catherine. Does anyone have these people in their family, or have access to the 1861, 1871 census so that I can put a further fix on them? Your help would be appreciated as these are my "brick wall" Heather J

I am trying to find any info on the following, including dates of b irth and where. Dates of deaths, marriages and brothers and sisters etc. In fact anything at all. Donald Cameron (Camron) Born 1725 married Helen Miller (B)1725--29 Dunning. Married at Auchterarder?. I can't find brothers or sisters of either. Chilren:- Mary (B) 1750 Dunning John (B)31/3/1751 Dunning Peter (B) 13/9/1752 Auchterarder William (B) 1756 Auchterarder James (B) 1756 Auchterarder Twin to William Elizabeth (B)17/6/1759 Auchterarder (M) 2/11/1790 John Manners Daniel (B)1760 Auchterarder (M)2/11/1790 Lillas Harrower (B) 6/6/1770 Helen (B)4/4/1762 Auchterarder. John has been shown as having a Janet Miller as his mother,but I believe this to be the same person as Helen. Is it possible that her name is Helen Janet or Janet Helen?, and it is the same person. I have hit the wall with this and would rerally appreciate any help please. Jim --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.713 / Virus Database: 469 - Release Date: 30/06/2004

Hello all, i am looking for descendants of the following family James GRAY b 18 Dec 1828 in Doune Per. Sct. s/o William GRAY and Mary MCRUER, married 11 June 1852 in Logie Per. Jane K KING b 2 April 1831in Braco per. d/o Daniel KING and Helen ANDERSON , they had the following children 1] William GRAY b 14 Feb 1853 Barony Lks 2] Helen Anderson GRAY b 25 Dec. 1854 in Logie 3] Mary McGruer GRAY b 11 Nov 1856 Bridge of Allan Per? Sti? 4] James GRAY b 6 May 1858 Logie 5] Daniel King GRAY b 28 Sep. 1860 Logie 6] Jessie GRAY b 6 Jan. 1862 Logie 7] John GRAY b 13 June 1864 in Logie 8] Jane Ann GRAY b 24 Aug 1865 Logie 9] Emily Barclay GRAY b 5 Apr 1868 Logie 10] Edith GRAY b 7 July 1870 in Logie 11] George McGruer GRAY b 21 Jan 1872 in Bridge of Allan in 1881 census they were living at Wolf's Crag in Logie anyone out there with any information please contact me Malcolm Australia RESEARCHING:- Anderson, Barclay, Blair, Bryce, Buchanan, Campbell, Cameron, Carmichael, Christie, Clark, Colquhon, Comrie, Dewar, Doig, Dow, Drummond, Eadie, Falconer, Ferguson, Forbes, Gray, Hutton, Innes, John(t)son, King, Laurie, MacDonald, MacLaren, MacNie, Maxwell, MacAllister, McAree, McArthur, McBeath, McCall, McDiarmid, McEwan, McFarlane, McGregor, McInnes, McIntyre, McKerracher, McKinlay, McLachlan, McLean, McNab(b), McNaughton, McNee, McNiven, McRuer, McVean, McVey, Moir, Morison, Murdoch, Patterson, Robertson, Sharp, Smiley, Stewart, Stirling, Strang & Whitehead.plus Gow

http://www.geocities.com/dundee_howff/main.htm produces a message This GeoCities site has been deactivated due to inactivity. A google search found http://www.dundee-howff.info/ which has an index of surnames and numbers of relevant stones. No given names in the index so all stones have to be viewed in searching for an individual. eg Kidd has 9 stones, none of which are for William Kidd & Agnes Rattray. Both are buried at the Howff. Not unusual of course to lack a stone. Is there another www site that has an index including full names??

Hi, Can anyone tell me if there is a publication or website that lists the signatories to the 16th Century National Covenant, specifically in Perth? Many thanks, Chris

My Great Grandfather William GRAY was born 12 April 1837 in Doune Perthshire s/o William GRAY and Mary MCRUER;; he married Janet ANDERSON 6 Jun. 1862 in Kilmadock;; in 1881 the family were living at 32 Polmadie road Govan Lks I am looking for descendants of this family the children were:- 1] Janet B 8 Dec 1862 Kilmadock, d 29 Jan 1864 Callander 2] Mary b 20 Jul 1864 Callander Marr circa 1885? Alec Falconer - 4 known children 3] William b 6 Feb 1866 Callander 4] Ann b 26 Jan 1868 married Edward Peters Hughes ( a minister of religion- which one unknown) 5] John b 6 Oct 1869 Callander (supposed to have become a Minister of Religion (unable to find him In "Fasti Scottia") in rutherglen 6] George b 22 Aug 1871 Callander married Grace ??? had 2 known children 7] James b 10 Sep 1873 (twin) My Line 8] Thomas b 10 Sep 1873 (twin) Marr ? Mary Ellen LAWRENCESON ?? 9] Stewart b 20 Mar 1876 Glasgow d 1945 Marr Dorothea HUGHES, 4 known children 10] Jessie b c 1879 Glasgow never married was housekeeper for her Brother (the minister) ?? 11] Helen A.K.A Nellie b c 1882 Glasgow 12] Andrew b 15 Dec 1885 Glasgow Lks d 14 Feb 1964, Marr 3 Aug 1912 Kings Norton England, Katherine HALLIDAY b 4 May 1888 St George Edinburgh Scotland d/o George HALLIDAY & Catherine GERRARD Anyone relate to the above? regards Malcolm Australia

Hello All, I am looking for details, parents, siblings etc of John CAMERON b c 1771 Easter Bow of Dunblane John married Mary or Margaret MACMARTIN december 1811 at Dunblane & had 5 known children anyone out there researching this family regards Malcolm

Hi all, I've been back to the A.K.Bell Library and had a further look for Patons in the city's burial registers. The period covered is now 1794 - 1886, and all entries can be viewed at my website on http://chrispatonscotland.tripod.com/id64.html. I've also revamped my site, and renamed it as "A History of the Perthshire Patons". The burial registers are the start of an expanded look at Patons in the city, beyond my own line, and in the near future I intend to start adding further pages on Paton census entries in Perth. The home page can be found at http://chrispatonscotland.tripod.com/. All comments welcome, and don't forget the guest book!!! Chris

Could someone please tell me were Westchurch in Perthshire is or was. Barbara

Hello can anyone help with information on George Bell b 1844 Lochmaben Dumfries who Married 1891 Dunblane, Janet Cameron b 1864 d/o John Cameron & Janet Dewar I have 3 children but no dates or places 1] Jessie 2]James 3] John not neccessarily in that order regards Malcolm

Hi List, I am trying to trace Andrew McFARLIN or McFARLANE. bn abt 1837 in or near the town of West Church, Perth in Perthshire. He was at the age of 15 in Dundee on 30th Dec 1852 occ Brass founder. If anyone could give me some help in tracing him and/or his family. I would be most grateful. Thank you. Barbara Miller, New Zealand.

Hi I have substantially upgraded my Clan McLean Connections anf Information Exchange website (see URL below) utilising the PAF format and I invite interested persons to review these lists Family Trees included within "PAF" format: 1. Descendants of Duncan McLean circa 1742 2. Descendants of Alexander McLean circa 1800 3. Descendants of Andrew Bonkell (Buncle) 1679 4. Descendants of Richard Parker circa 1755 5. Descendants of John McCracken, Ireland circa 1800 Family Trees yet to be converted to "PAF" format: Regards Doug McLean (Australia) Clan McLean Connections and Information Exchange http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Canyon/6387 Missing McLean List http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Canyon/6387/MissingMcLeanList.html Missing Spicer and Froggett List: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Canyon/6387/MissingSpicerFroggett.html

sorry about that a slip of the finger 2]Christian Gray b 29 Jun 1797 Lecropt nfi 3] William b 28 Jul 1799 marr 1826 Mary McRuer b 1800 They had 7 children All born Doune or Kilmadock regards Malcolm

Hello All; I am looking for descendants of John Gray b 1690 Alloa Clack. [possibly worked as a brewer]and Marion Duncan ??[I think she was from Stirling] they had the following children 1] John b 11 Mar 1718/19 in Stirling 2] Margaret b 18 Dec 1720 in Stirling 3] Robert b 16 Dec 1722 in Stirling 4] Agnes b 24 Jun 1724 in Stirling 5] James b 1726 in Stirling Married Christian TURNBULL 29 october 1754 in Stirling Children of this marriage 1] Mary b 18 Jun 1757 Stirling 2] Thomas b 26 Aug 1759 in Logie Per. 3] James b 1761 Logie Per. marr [1], 1785 Jean Gilledpie;; issue Peggy Gray b 1785 nfi Marr [2] Isobel Bryce b 1775 Muthill;; marr 1795 Lecropt Per. children following this list 4]Robert b 1763 Logie D bef 1765 5] Robert b 1765 Logie Per. 6] Peter b 4 Aug 1767 Logie per. 7] Janet b 1770 Logie Per. 8] John b 1755 Stirling- D bef 1759 9] John b 26 Aug 1759 Logie per. Children of James Gray & Isobel Bryce 1] Thomas b 6 Dec 1795 Logie nfi 2] Christian b 29 Jun 1797 Logie nfi 3]

Hi I am searching for any family of Peter SLATER who in c1785 in Caputh married Marjory BALLANTYNE . Thanks for any info. Helen McNamara in NZ

Is there anyone out there that belongs to the family of Janet CRAIGY who married David SLATER in Caputh in1749 Helen McNamara in wet and cold NZ

I'm trying to find out the McLaren Connection to Jessie McLaren Robertson Milne 16/7/1880. (My Great Granny). I'm sure it must be on the Reid/Robertson side. There are quite a few McLaren's & Robertsons in that area. John Robertson 30 Nov 1808 Caputh Married Catherine Reid. John Robertson & Catherine Reid's Family was as follows. Peter Robertson Born 22/6/1837 Little Dunkeld. John Robertson Born 23/12/1838 Little Dunkeld. James Robertson Born 27/9/1840 Little Dunkeld. Robert Robertson Born 7/9/1842 Little Dunkeld. David Robertson Born 23/8/1844 Little Dunkeld. James Robertson Born 27/9/1840 Little Dunkeld. Catherine McLaren Robertson 11/11/1846 Little Dunkeld. d. 7/11/1902 Age 52, Newtyle. Married Andrew Milne. Daughter Jessie McLaren Robertson Milne 16/7/1880. (My Great Granny). Daughter Jean Ogilvy Milne b. 31/3/1906 d. 28/1/1980 Age 74. (My Granny) Son John Milne Bell b. 11/3/1937. Me Alistair John Bell b. 7/12/1961. My ggm Jessie McLaren Robertson Milne DOB 16/7/1880 Meikleour Perthshire Scotland. Died Trail BC Canada 13/1/1951. Her mother - Catherine Reid Robertson DOB 11/11/1846 Little Dunkeld. Died 7/11/1902 Newtyle Angus Scotland. Parents of Catherine Reid Robertson John Robertson DOB 30/11/1808 Caputh Perthshire Scotland. Died 20/7/1882 Craigvenien Dunkeld. Catherine Reid DOB Nov 1814 Little Dunkeld. Died 20/7/1882 Craigvenien Dunkeld. Parents of Catherine Reid James Reid DOB 8/6/1783 Little Dunkeld. Elspet Borrie. No Details. Married James Reid 2/12/1808 Little Dunkeld. Parents of James Reid James Reid (Father) Janet Robertson Married 24/6/1765. Cheers Alistair.

I'm trying to find out the McLaren Connection to Jessie McLaren Robertson Milne 16/7/1880. (My Great Granny). I'm sure it must be on the Reid/Robertson side. There are quite a few McLaren's & Robertsons in that area. John Robertson 30 Nov 1808 Caputh Married Catherine Reid. John Robertson & Catherine Reid's Family was as follows. Peter Robertson Born 22/6/1837 Little Dunkeld. John Robertson Born 23/12/1838 Little Dunkeld. James Robertson Born 27/9/1840 Little Dunkeld. Robert Robertson Born 7/9/1842 Little Dunkeld. David Robertson Born 23/8/1844 Little Dunkeld. James Robertson Born 27/9/1840 Little Dunkeld. Catherine McLaren Robertson 11/11/1846 Little Dunkeld. d. 7/11/1902 Age 52, Newtyle. Married Andrew Milne. Daughter Jessie McLaren Robertson Milne 16/7/1880. (My Great Granny). Daughter Jean Ogilvy Milne b. 31/3/1906 d. 28/1/1980 Age 74. (My Granny) Son John Milne Bell b. 11/3/1937. Me Alistair John Bell b. 7/12/1961. Cheers Alistair.